[0:20] ..." for the Yankees reminiscent to you was it is me of the Jonathan Papelbon ascension -- Boston."...

[2:48] ..." and vicious -- And that's why -- never had a problem and Eddie Murray any current there's talk. Me and certainly they. On questionable he's very consistent he talks like you're going to wait on Monday"...

[8:11] ..." mix it up more maybe just maybe he's trying too hard as Terry Francona suggested. But I don't think he's going to be a huge problem. I just over at such as elected in the world"...

[11:47] ..." the transition from pitcher to position player and done it well. Until Rick Ankiel and other than wrote I couldn't come up with --"...

[0:00]" Each and every Tuesday at this time we get all of our baseball Scopes. From our baseball insider fox sports the Saturday baseball telecasts fox sports dot com Ken Rosenthal joins us take -- I don't. Am I'm curious. Is that -- this job I Chamberlain right not old out is that job but Chamberlain ascension for the Yankees reminiscent to you was it is me of the Jonathan Papelbon ascension -- Boston."

[0:26]" It is now it reminiscent of that need but I had kept mentioned a couple weeks ago that this guy. -- papelbon preferred that Frazier youth couple times this year the royals used to talk about Georgia. They're rule five it would have been great -- leave them. And to -- of course want. The statute of papelbon -- in the game but also the potential Chamberlain is certainly that and I don't know of any rep advances in yet but I would -- great fastball but his breaking stuff is vicious game. Anything out of the original output at night presenter of the -- of course -- But this -- like he's the real."

[1:11]" I'll ask you more about the Yankees in the second want to know what's your take was -- the Barry Bonds ceremony and specifically that tribute from hank Aaron which a lot of people -- an expectancy."

[1:32]" To -- Great thing about it."

[1:35]" explain the enemy but he did his own not. -- in other words to go attend the event. To become part of -- questions media to have answered questions that would have been uncle he made his statement that he obviously. Audit and there were no questions or no answers it was just that statement and it had -- At a -- dignity and I think gave. Some closure to the idea that hank Aaron did approve or disapprove. Just showed what he -- and had those part."

[2:11]" You know stuck with a one of the writers last night we're talking about Barry Bonds and he said I'm actually dealt with the worst guys in Barry Bonds he's not so bad. You've dealt with Albert bell in your career among many others where does bonds of rank in the sounds crazy -- Where does he rank of it on a top ten list of bad guys in baseball."

[2:32]" Just -- media. Yeah or just dealing with the media are not my top ten -- oh is that right."

[2:39]" Yeah and to me the most dangerous guys not the guy -- Consistently one way the guys it would be nice one day and vicious -- And that's why -- never had a problem and Eddie Murray any current there's talk. Me and certainly they. On questionable he's very consistent he talks like you're going to wait on Monday they -- everyday and Barry of course goes in. You just read -- into the clock out the -- you know you might get. Dealt with a certain way but I've dealt with -- that effect I don't or five guys on the 87 or rule. Why would they were worse than Barrett that was my first team and it was a miserable group."

[3:29]" who -- the four guys some curious now."

[3:33]" And he was just the nutty guy at that time also the end -- He was real difficult guided the kind of our topic that way through it or early after the that he's not a you may -- it would Eddie was out of that it was because in -- and because you try to write about it. He only had not talked. Yeah Hitler thought okay of the that would not cooperation was Draper was ladies pied piper active with the whole off guys."

[4:07]" I'd -- If they thought airport I mean he's still just talk and."

[4:11]" I did go out with a more and I didn't get along well Ripken even start but they get along with but I just never clicked certainly so. Bonds is ample for the media deal with but belly."

[4:26]" One of the things the Red Sox have done since Theo Epstein took over as general manager in under the present ownership. Is they have prided themselves and they promote the fact that they get their picks signed. This is going to be different this year there's new rules in place in -- wrote about it on fox sports dot com. Scott Boras still has 31 round picks with they're not signed by 1159 tomorrow night. Go back into the draft again."

[4:52]" And it's a much different dynamic is this the first time ever. That there has been. The deadline. Deadline is on the east if the team does not sign it by then it gets the corresponding pick in next year's draft for instance if the royals don't. -- want it with the number two pick overall the amateur -- it next year checked out. And obviously the players and yet we go back. It's different and forced to get one of his players signed by Parcells left other right handed pitcher. I school New Jersey very highly thought of -- seven point seven million dollars at the 27 election with Detroit he has dealt well Boris last several years. Religion whether. The other 11 straight ten now first round picks were on I get -- including the number one David price understandable that."

[5:50]" Well the the interesting part of piece that you wrote on fox sports dot com has to do specifically -- Baltimore and Andy macphail. The possibility he may lose his first round pick and the exact same thing happened Andy macphail prior to this when it was a guy named Jason -- attack."

[6:05]" Right and that's what with which they got that story. I was basically oldest today that this was not going well and I was all the all eight. Keep in mind in 1993 and macphail twins GM between drafted -- at the 21 at all. Junior Georgia Tech switch hitting catcher did not -- Matt leaders -- one it fit overall this year is the Georgia Tech and it's switch hitting catcher. I don't know how much. The similarities to article beyond -- pretty similar right there and macphail took over to accept the draft took place. Apparently had a different. Philosophies and the guys -- in place the -- Duquette like flat. That's one of the real interest in situations to watch when the Orioles it is or not. And I didn't get your -- and -- pointed. I'm hearing -- it's not collectively well I'd go to the point where -- to not -- leaders."

[7:07]" They can Abreu we're going to need you to give us some big picture perspective here. -- because we're trying to figure out what the story is with Eric Gagne obviously. Two closers have been on the same team not necessarily in that role and think about John Whitman. And Mariano Rivera Rivera it was a setup guy but with a closer -- whether -- left with a Texas. But in this case when you have to established closers on the same team can you think of any situation where that is work before."

[7:34]" Cincinnati Reds 1993 -- Randy Myers pain control. I think that idea and it. And ideas. -- to -- as good as those two that's pretty you cat and I think got exit at the OK but certainly event. Yet I think -- date. -- Sunday anyway -- at all opera that was undo it was sort heart with good velocity and acting. For the most part decent location so maybe get to mix it up more maybe just maybe he's trying too hard as Terry Francona suggested. But I don't think he's going to be a huge problem. I just over at such as elected in the world is falling apart but that's not the way."

[8:26]" Well let's let's actually going to the back story that you ride about on on fox sports dot com. The back story that Red Sox fans will be interested in about the Sox acquisition of Gagne."

[8:37]" I talked about it on TV that is well and it is really it just. At the day at the deadline about news for us for the that might have on its own apartment for Dakota. Is that hey pat we've got to over talk view we are possibly the verge of getting Erika. Estes out. So -- over the papelbon apartment and at this point maybe 12:31 O'Clock it was already you know. If it's not that unusual for him get there early. He felt that it was foolish to take -- uniforms so he Theo Epstein. Gary talking John -- went over to papelbon apartment which isn't downtown. And they met in the boiler room apartment because papelbon -- Memorabilia actual park was full -- of all the things. So after Francona parked his car yet to walk about a block the -- the bottom sort of but he capitalistic -- and it -- it matters stroll in uniform for the count now become an interest but it happens and adapt point in the boiler room they had their meeting. And they talked papelbon explain what age rule would be. And explain of course the -- on the primary closer to rest his sister."

[9:56]" And I think it's it's -- where it's even better that he is apartment in the wells street area. -- even now I don't like. -- Ticket don't know incredible story about the Red Sox struggle with Gagne. So far. Oh mentality of closers and guys that its name in the eighth inning it would be."

[10:31]" I do I think we've seen enough Michael suggest that it is different is it going eight to -- difficult that is the you with the ninth inning in all the pressures that exists actually try it well that -- But -- for the sport in the world record they've got the doctors coast is different and out in the eighth inning as well ready to play more. I forgot like I'd hate to exit private his. Role in -- team -- now at the same time. It's suggested. Good way that's -- and he should get the out that he yet batteries put it. But Eric charismatic -- suggest a protest is right. Maybe basically welcome to the jungle which is music you know late in the eighth inning of -- when -- and why not get --"

[11:24]" Whatever it takes him back if that's all it takes that's pretty that's collectible we can do that."

[11:30]" Well at and as as we look at the at the situation with the Red Sox and where they're going. You know and and whether or not they can hold off the Yankees we might lose sight of all of what is one of the great stories of baseball -- wrote about this as well. We were trying to think yesterday. If other than babe Ruth any player has ever made the transition from pitcher to position player and done it well. Until Rick Ankiel and other than wrote I couldn't come up with --"

[12:05]" In the finally before player reached of course -- had success. -- pitcher for his career was derailed and -- it. Other issues to deal with out here is is a great story the second best comeback story of the year out of the airport the book just out. Which was like in depth story as opposed to it's really work restored that the real life issues involved or is that going to prison. Really a testament to his persevere and the reasoning is so beloved. The cardinals clubhouse is because he did not quit and that's why he's so it's almost players rally around him. The guy that just role is difficult on our heels stayed with it and that is a great testament -- his character."

[12:53]" Is that also a testament to his athleticism and a a system that I would have the ability to do."

[12:59]" No question like it. There's a great quote. Recorded I think his head of the court system to -- their head instructor in east at the moment that it you became position player in the mightily. He immediately became one of the top athletes. From that standpoint in the organization. The reason he is succeeding here of course is. Not just did its work ethic but as athletic as well. The reason why some cardinals people think -- may be edited and -- without which is the estimation of many out. Is that. He can do things that maybe the expectations already have."

[13:42]" We have a tendency here to look at the wildcard race in the American league is really being between four teams. To an east in the 2 in the central Cleveland Detroit Boston -- New York. Do we run the risk of neglecting the Seattle Mariners because they may -- smack dab in the middle of it as well."

[13:58]" They'll just -- in the stand they are not -- middle of it and they -- retained it. -- like that the started the Eric but the age struggle again I didn't think the -- it very well but at this moment I'd walk with the Yankees. And it really got three things -- One of the ball which is among league's best to their offense which has been better whole -- people thought and -- even that -- Which really great. Finally their defense is outstanding only better now they -- it Adam Jones who's. Sort of -- very I guess we call so. They -- seen at. Really isn't that battle tested. But the -- kick in an angels team that while very good I don't know is. Invincible so I do think that there -- but he treated -- both in the division and the wild card. Just because they'll you know play a lot doesn't he's been out of formidable group of players."

[14:59]" You know -- the DL and holly show has lots of friends you're one of them. And so as Terry Ryan friend of the -- general manager of the Minnesota Twins so I find it hard to believe that Ryan hasn't had. Like constructive communication -- your hand Santana Santana. Seems very upset -- what's going on in Minnesota of the dark. Do you think there's realistic possibility that Santana will be somewhere else in 2009 or even before."

[15:26]" Yes but it is I think what they need to do the world they knew their targets of the even now bedard a year behind it and it service time -- find out whether that's long term if Santana. Is not viable for work -- that the case I think it -- especially. If they believe that it -- the great left and there is making efficient. Recovery from Tommy John church because he is on top the next Santana certainly -- that would at the steal on. If you could trade it. With one article as contract I think it needs to. The -- and -- the look at if they believe they sign that said. Received had a handled or under which is keep him mentally and make every effort. Which at least it will do -- perhaps they'll take that course with intent the issue is not necessarily on the order Koppel that is well -- in the world he has the money issues whether and the -- believe that payroll you'll be given. Investing a 20 years and Adam would be watched it."

[16:45]" And final question for me conventional wisdom in baseball is that pitching. Will kind of stay the course over the course of -- 162 game season hitting will come and go right now the Yankees hitting is otherworldly. They've averaged seven point eight runs a game since the all star break. Is -- the sort of thing where you expect reality to catch up and that they're going to cool off an all or they that's this good."

[17:09]" I've always thought there offenses as to I think the Red Sox front office believe that the yanks got this tremendous trust chocolate. -- in the first half there was support from offenses stamp. -- the adage is more you can went in the regular season went up and but it difficult when in the post season. Without that we've seen ethnic he came notable last seven years old first round knockout well largely because of batsman -- That happened in the post it better pitch so I don't think this surge. Is a garage in may not be something that they can thing at this level all season but they're going to sustain it pretty decent offensive. Ought to hear the question to me is even if they get any. How could -- be now if Philip Hughes looks like legitimate. Three or above starter and Chamberlain was solidified the all. There's an entirely different post the in and you look at it want headed in Hughes I would drop -- In my thought process here and you're looking -- bullpen as James Barrett the back and combined that would Eck yeah out in may really have."

[18:21]" Okay before that ago where on this weekend and I don't like those personal questions your very private guy that -- question I have but I. That personal professional questions for professional. Out your. Right now I cannot Yankees I don't -- I went -- last week I now I believe -- be in the Bronx every bit of war but. -- went far apart by Kenny we'll talk to next week I expect there Ken Rosenthal from fox sports are baseball insider"