[5:13] ..." because early on there was certainly an -- restore around that that al Jefferson or Gerald -- name was being floated out there but if you remember receivers are rumors started that's what al are there"...

[6:18] ..." look to the and he says sarcastically quote unquote. Under achieving big al Jefferson. He's averaging a double double in the month of December he's really stepped up as presence on the court for everyone thought"...

[9:20] ..." and see -- other cute it's two years I'd school. You know Tony Allen has started to emerge out that there in army is Tony your major bumps in the road obviously optical addictive situations are"...

[10:10] ..." that next player I or in any issues that to go with Tony Allen who. Doesn't really good job -- on -- guard and small forward but you know is is really 63 export the most"...

[10:46] ..." now this is an opportunity. For these guys specifically Gerald -- al Jefferson but more better than that -- in and Tony Allen and others don't want the even with both pierce and -- out for an extended period of time right now. You know"...

[11:24] ..." is trying to unload. Something down the line and maybe pick up Theo Ratliff salary are -- some of the young guys of the Celtics do you expect them post all star break to have any"...

[13:04] ..." Gerald don't want Dave Rondo even hold to a lesser degree in Tony Allen. I mean the numbers eventually we're going to go back to where. Allen a somebody's not going to get the minutes and"...

[14:05] ..." two you know it never going to be feel that the play Michael Olowokandi is is simply assurance and you know I think rod goes kind of start to get -- a -- the backup point"...

[16:25] ..." on your roster you know I think all is that I think al Jefferson has become one I think Gerald green is knocking on the untouchable door. But I but after that mean anybody's really fair"...

[0:00]" Let's head out to the west coast in -- times of the year 2830 in the morning. Get ridiculous and which -- guarding Michael -- you don't get any sleep well that that's good for a west coast trip isn't it."

[0:15]" not too bad kind of crazy how we feel like he's just giving. Like -- must be like to follow Iraq and around with a -- to a -- you know on the east side games every night and five different cities."

[0:25]" Well -- were able to get out of Denver. Able to get in and out of Denver."

[0:29]" Yeah I don't acted that's true it was down the fact there's supposedly it was probably with the -- again either tomorrow or Friday the basic could be worse in the last one."

[0:41]" So you got to see Allen Iverson in -- Denver uniform and I'll cut right to the chase when you watch in the game at the start. Did you wish he was going to Celtics uniform or not."

[0:53]" point of view sure I'd love to call -- arms against their respective terrific player you to to watch play I'm not sure would be your best for the team would certainly last night I -- Antonio wade played last night -- on the kind of lack that are nobody's doing all of right things like Alexander he's saying all the right things in and we get 12 assists last night of the more it's kind of -- this first game you know it took at least 1718 shots so. If you can keep their shots down around twice to catch the ball like that he'll get along fine with Carmelo Anthony accompanies it goes back to vacant city shut the game -- test the."

[1:26]" Yeah Carmelo obviously wasn't in their last 90 you don't know -- the ball distribution gonna go but you know I. I was I was very impressed at the way he was passing the ball after that layup he had that that one past story was -- that he was over the other side -- court -- me he passed download to."

[1:43]" Of that now that yeah yeah yeah. Adequate Boykins is stew yeah no hitter you know out of it always got that -- every game beat Houston and Philly is gave it up because -- just. Happened people would be shot so he just stopped at that started acknowledge shot himself when you look at that Billy Roxy he really could blame them but again. I don't know he's not factor in how people around the league especially the black act exactly the Phillies who did his whole career there are very action was basically that he can't play would anybody really Egypt that -- play his game now he -- be an unselfish move that I."

[2:21]" If he's in the -- at most right."

[2:24]" Mike there was a lot of talk. During the two week period -- trade -- how he might co exist with Paul pierce when Carmelo gets back from that suspension how do you think those two are going to co -- they get that at the nuggets can take a step up in the west -- not."

[2:39]" Well I don't know I don't think it's going to work frankly I. The minority without that I just don't think it's going to work I think it pretty difficult personalities the two of them they have this year about baggage each they're both really need the ball in the hands -- I would when -- a vote of barked at him he's terrific player but yet. She's a lot though you know that is also going to be the problem we'll get the ball what you need to be played he had made who's gonna take the shot. So I just think that he's very combustible number one. And number two as well as they're very it was planned right now they get to understand why they've made the deal you know there they'll 14 and ten which you look at it -- let -- bad -- grip the playoffs started Jamal. He played in Dallas with Dallas have a home court because they'd -- seven -- in the west so I. Had to do something and certainly if they do Phoenix in the first round to be where they're late to -- would be a 140 -- grille but I just don't think they can go very far even with these two."

[3:40]" Now obviously you say you're in the minority so the best -- people around you must Sam -- just look at last night he had 13 assistant. Iverson been in the league for 11 years and when Carmelo gets back he's going to be a wise old sage enough to understand that the attention to Carmelo is going to make him a better player."

[4:01]" That most of the bit about about -- I talked to think it will work for this year. At all bets are off -- that they you know want Allen will be looking to try to put the best foot forward in in the city and combo he's defied his best what can get it forward so I. Interest to make this work this year but. -- know about Carmelo Anthony isn't really about to change. I just -- terrific -- it's."

[4:32]" Mike what what's your sets of of Howell active leave the the Celtics really went went after did did they have a package that Philly would have been interest in or was it just you know the after -- ridiculous no there's no way we're going to give up that guy."

[4:52]" He would try -- think happen and I haven't got any confirmation that would be any anybody -- pilot and I ask questions like that but you know again receive so much poker arrive TV I think the Celtics at the table you know I think it -- players that the final table. And I do think early are made might have put out a tactic that Philly would be very interested is because early on there was certainly an -- restore around that that al Jefferson or Gerald -- name was being floated out there but if you remember receivers are rumors started that's what al are there in anti -- a corner inside himself and Gerald also start to beat a player that we all think he can be so. They give Billy King has been -- can make a deal maybe in the first 24 hours that it became. -- situation as though their trade Iverson I think the Celtics would have been really wanted to -- people in the -- but the longer that it dragged out I think that this topics decided to take more more -- are the table with everyday that would. You know by about a week and days it would I don't think -- players at all."

[5:56]" Idealists in the dale and -- show the inmates are running the asylum here today which -- again ridiculous and for a Michael and dale -- Mike Gorman on the west coast Celtics moved to Denver last night to -- the clippers tonight. On the vaunted polity west coast trip Michael region email we -- from pat from Quincy guys he wants some hope and optimism regarding our local basketball team look to the and he says sarcastically quote unquote. Under achieving big al Jefferson. He's averaging a double double in the month of December he's really stepped up as presence on the court for everyone thought I was trying to escape betrayed Philly. And then drop up once that did -- did not happen he's not slowed down since Iverson went to Denver I think -- should be credit for the non trade in -- be applauded. For the consistent minutes he's giving Jefferson an I'll add that Jefferson had 16 points 15 rebounds last night Gerald green 37 minutes had 18 points eight rebounds and four blocks. In his game should they be applauded for not make in the trade according to pat --"

[7:00]" Summit for -- stoppage or amusement or entertainment point of view it maybe Rick short term make the playoffs this year point of view it be fired at Allen Iverson around the I don't want he had Jefferson go -- don't want to Joe Greene go I think al especially it has shown in the and the last ten games that that he can't beat it. I am very very good NBA players but he he's really not the player we thought he was two years ago when he was about 2530 pounds heavier it was kind of like this kind of. Out -- box and in kind of NATO belt to slow moves that seem to hypnotize people immaculate particular Mikhail but now he's got those 25 pounds. I myself use an al -- a quick in the never thought really do that and he's just really try to get to a better be good solid consistent player. Yes 1615 and where is numbers last night you know sometimes when year losing like the Celtics are right now because they don't have appear they're from -- active numbers can be deceiving because. You know when eluded you obviously not going to get shut out so -- there score some points somewhere there's -- question where are they worthwhile points than I would tell you they're no matter what the final score these games -- These points it out Jefferson aren't getting any rebounding getting a legitimate bat you know I doubt very glad to -- in the south you know -- Going to be -- well."

[8:28]" I'm Mike you know you said that you're you're glad that they didn't make that -- you've been around this team and an awfully long time in the -- don't you get in. I think that I'm I'm talking as a as a fan now fan who remembers the glory days in okay I'll put that out there but. You this rebuilding process has taken just well a little bit longer than than most people are comfortable with."

[8:52]" I think that's accurate I think most rebuilding process is do you know we live in the city of the big big. -- what you gotta look at. It is is progress to -- say it is illegitimate progress."

[9:09]" Is MI -- seen it now."

[9:12]" let -- I don't think that a question and it you know obviously get within the -- the united which he would Gerald green start to become the player that again and see -- other cute it's two years I'd school. You know Tony Allen has started to emerge out that there in army is Tony your major bumps in the road obviously optical addictive situations are still have to be resolved but between that. Knee resolve except for a walk out."

[9:37]" What's intriguing is such an intriguing guy is doing. Just because of his -- much appease a starter on your team but he's definitely in my eight man rotation somehow because of the unique things you can do as your best defenders inning."

[9:52]" And that's why he's got that you know -- you know again -- that allow coaches as well as the people that understand the roster who they haven't how to best -- And you know Tony in the -- after the big reason I've discovered to become much more and watched. Because we have a strong defensive presence now static I -- that next player I or in any issues that to go with Tony Allen who. Doesn't really good job -- on -- guard and small forward but you know is is really 63 export the most the he's not whose boat 68 and so he might -- a little bigger guys that played against him but yeah I think it accurate a question that I do think the pieces are pretty solidly placed I wish it happened three years as a vote of privacy expert you know most things don't."

[10:42]" Well Mike when you talk about who they have and how they're best use -- mean I'm looking at right now this is an opportunity. For these guys specifically Gerald -- al Jefferson but more better than that -- in and Tony Allen and others don't want the even with both pierce and -- out for an extended period of time right now. You know they're forced to play which can be which can be good thing the trading deadline is when march"

[11:07]" right now -- that we get the all star break but something that February."

[11:11]" Okay -- mid February and are we still of the he'll quit this team that they -- eventually get done -- when he -- rotation and do you expect them now that the Iverson trade is gone by the wayside to look at another possible trade someone is trying to unload. Something down the line and maybe pick up Theo Ratliff salary are -- some of the young guys of the Celtics do you expect them post all star break to have any man rotation based on what -- seen in up to them now."

[11:37]" Well yeah I'd I'd probably check out some more like nine but I think that's what this I think -- has been pretty can sit. In his philosophy which is that he is going to gather as many chips as we possibly can at -- going to play those chips to try to get a better hand. And yes somewhere what that would this rebuilding it just pointed out that'd take a little longer everybody's so well would developing the young guys are developing young guys then and and you're always developing young -- which is still answering the ball. And and I think getting will continue to answered opponent and you know I think any will make eight deal if you think the -- truly make this team better you know who are the guys are out there -- I think Eric changed drastically export our weakest teams I decide whether where they are of this year's run for the playoffs that might want to move. Bigger -- seems to think it might be their young player away so. I'd get I think getting answered -- phone calls I think I don't know how many initiating right now I think he -- what he has but I wouldn't be surprised that the Celtics would make trade. You know around before the trading deadline I would respect that they didn't but it would be back to."

[12:48]" Well I guess I'm getting -- is I look it. As much as some intrigue to -- Jefferson and green went pierce and Wally come back. I wonder again when you look at the line up you know if you take tell -- appears Wally Alan Gomes let's say in as your five starters and then you got Perkins Gerald don't want Dave Rondo even hold to a lesser degree in Tony Allen. I mean the numbers eventually we're going to go back to where. Allen a somebody's not going to get the minutes and isn't that going to retarded development."

[13:17]" Well -- juggle a couple of things where -- I think I think Wally ultimately going to. May have on the team and I think Tony out statement starting line up. I also -- lucky west's will ultimately be the starting point guard for the majority team if his back that proved to be popular down last I could see and re injured his back to back -- and after the game last night was pretty comfortable on the plane right here so a lot they could be out for awhile but got it made to move to make a lot in the starting point guard last. Go through some difficult. On the floor and it started to struggle that offensively and so his minutes may slip a little bit Perkins who. It Jefferson's which I think is an actual those two you know it never going to be feel that the play Michael Olowokandi is is simply assurance and you know I think rod goes kind of start to get -- a -- the backup point -- the fact that it's being worked so I think there are enough minutes really to go around without too many people get squeezed Wally and it may get squeezed so they're actually -- has been if they get squeezed a little bit but you know -- if if if this topic get. Get due respect without fault here and still have a shot in Atlantic division then you can play pop -- 40 minutes to game but it if you don't XP it look like the only way to Alex to make the playoffs would be to win the Atlantic division of the Atlantic. Could conceivably be won by a sub 508 but it that are going to be -- then I think he just you know maybe caught Altman I think a wallet and it's a little bit if you play the --"

[15:01]" I was I was a little surprised to see a lot they get the start last night at that point guard -- seeing him go down and watching him walk off the court in the second half and didn't look like he was going to be back anytime soon I don't know whether there was that much difference when he was getting up the plane in LA but. -- yeah you guys are talking that Perkins. Is likely back in the lineup tonight."

[15:24]" If -- look at it likely back tonight Szczerbiak is likely back on the weekend again I I'd pay any and I I don't haven't spoken directly wallet about this but I don't think he has any issues with the I think quality could be really -- experience any -- let him come off the -- to -- like shooters I think you'll be happy guy and you know I think he can be a 14 to 16 point again got got a bench which would really the united punch up the bench it's abusive telling -- defensive presence --"

[15:55]" I'm Mike when you're going through the lineup there. Our Sebastian Telfair his days numbered and the Celtics uniform."

[16:02]" Well I don't know I you know I don't I don't want to say that number actually don't know if they're number that they are numbered but again when you. What you talk about potentially make penetrated answering the phone with -- believe yourself to you know you gotta give them to get something and went year. -- 16 I think it's with the Celtics are right now it's percentage of untouchables on your roster you know I think all is that I think al Jefferson has become one I think Gerald green is knocking on the untouchable door. But I but after that mean anybody's really fair game so I've been I don't want to think bout Sebastian is days are numbered I do think Sebastien has struggled on the defensive end of the court lately is at the start outlook of their so -- some real look."

[16:52]" I just wonder I mean the plan was when the trade was made not only did they were able to rid themselves of Raef LaFrentz salary but. I mean the idea was he was going to be their starting point guard wasn't."

[17:03]" Well it was because that's the way to trade worked out you know I mean sometimes that basically it could have been unique on the back in Portland and they still would pull the trigger sort of thing that -- out by the -- and still eight you know I think again at."

[17:19]" Position you know I think there's still hope that their -- token bedecked. Somebody is that there ought to everything the game I firmly believe you can be a very good NBA team with a lot where to park."

[17:34]" like -- the clippers tonight the clippers are coming off back to back also they lost to Utah last night by ten we know Elton Brand is there we got one of the most intriguing young guys of people -- opinion about Shaun Livingston Corey Maggette comes off the bench. I mean this is is this a good basketball team they're 11 and 16 they certainly have some potential don't think."

[17:55]" Yeah I'd -- that exciting that there 11 -- and I thought there's going to be a much better keep of that right now they would be out of playoff that they started knowledge of the -- are here -- in -- Mobley and that makes it the guys. Who's who's -- NBA player I don't know what is longer I'll always going to be Elton Brand guy Chris -- is back and has played pretty well so. Yeah I I don't know why they have not what exactly what you look at bat in the best stuff that I a look at before game that this very much of a middle of the tacky don't do anything very well they're doing and really poorly he's he's confused at the whether or not living is going to be hit point guard -- it -- at some 90 less."

[18:40]" last IDs 512 takes 12 shots he only had four assists and he -- at ten points played 32 minutes. Are you affair appears like fine when I talked NBA people either love this guy but they're not sold on him."

[18:54]" Yeah I we -- that the majority yet how to do love them they'll I don't any big and it and again we're talking about a kid's you know exactly. Two years -- so you know -- that I go to grant 32 minute. To 12 look forward if someone -- you are as good."

[19:14]" Police say would see 672 saw any big point guards would skill like that you get they got a intrigue you."

[19:19]" Yeah they do have a Tim Thomas played on the team I've -- been a big Tim Thomas got an and then back step exactly knocking down what you get by the -- it's you know DN Ewing quickly lost the -- have been people that you know he can't get salad not play ended play last night. Sam I was very you know I've regardless of a note on the plane out exit exams 37 years old now. Can't -- a -- that was significant place how about you guys when we started a conversation here to talk about Beatles -- they haven't caught on our outfielders."

[19:52]" In my class question we've been well actually two Oscars -- is a great Decker senior partner."

[19:58]" If -- job that I guess I need to Johnny is you know battling a bad back and it was you know again it was a trip even if he didn't he had a chance to get this Baptist topic surgery done so he had a there. But even the great if he didn't you know -- seven I would make act like we have a bad back you don't like about the planes so probably will be back that we get back -- I -- step -- that are very large -- to --"

[20:32]" Did he give Greg points last night. If you're gonna fall. A last question I have played it's early in the west coast is on his -- with -- as we've been talking again denial morning looking back in 6 which was. Someone of the forgettable year on the Boston sports team but if there's one memory or one story of one moment of the four professional teams maybe not professional that stands out. For you what's the story of the year. On the Boston sports -- good or bad for you Mike."

[21:03]" Story year our sport I mean it really wasn't forgettable year when you think about the page I don't. Was it read it was a red meaning that yeah."

[21:12]" Eight eight from may -- that was get too personal for me it would absolutely be very you know. I'd again -- you know usually -- I told people that went went somebody 89 years old after the way the first reaction -- you like if they wanna play great like celebrate their life. And yet what accurate to new this is so bad. It was because they're never got red was oh. I have walked into the room somewhere and see Democrats who have kind of look up to -- to -- and and just be ready so the meat that's what. But that's more personal under those sports see the that would probably be because the."