[0:01]" It's -- doesn't Kelly and Steve the -- along side John meet a row let the fire sale begin in Chicago. With a 940 who. Chicago White Sox. Five losses in a -- by the -- Steve -- you know -- look at the -- bills are keeping them out of the dollar room off the road and I helped -- put this weekend's big story at least -- a lot of -- round here that would -- early to Boston trade talks under -- their -- from Chicago warmer and -- Sports Radio talk show -- border of -- and media -- share -- Tom how --"

[0:40]" JP you know PRE you don't -- the Osce speed -- it is kinda Mark -- written us a whole lot. The us open I -- but it also excellent beat -- 1 yeah."

[0:53]" Alia who vote could come down off that that no extension cause or from the reader boat yellow star that dogs that explained to me mr. -- writes this morning. That Kenny Williams sense. The White Sox have no intention of allowing any club interested in -- To negotiate a contract extension as part of the trade that makes no sense to me can help -- out this."

[1:19]" Well I think that's just something the White Sox -- today. That was why else would they be traded him. It is about a contract issue -- Along with the fact of course of the team is in the toilet the White Sox have lost 22 of their last 27 games and act that can't even believe that five and 22. Sometimes committee talks talks you know we always like to say he's a baseball guy with the football mentality --"

[1:42]" So close the White Sox are going to be sellers not buyers betrayal on the trading deadline is that safe to say but but as as as recently as last week he said you don't get guys coming back from injury let's see what happens at this point was the sweep by the cubs. The the death knell for the White Sox."

[1:59]" there's no question about it you know effect on Tuesday he had a meeting Kenny Williams had a meeting with Ozzie Guillen the manager and Paul Konerko Lee White Sox veteran first baseman was asked to commit that beating. And the question wasn't do you guys think you can still win it because we will start talking about trades if we all believe that this team can turn around. And of course you know players always believe they -- and it -- furcal made his case for not trading burley or other free agent talent. And at that meeting ended with Kenny Williams indicating that they were going to. Sit tight but these guys trying to turn around you know it was three or four more games in a row which they did and now there's no question that they're going to be trading people at his you know admitted. So I think that's just lot of tough talk is that they believe that the Red Sox qualified to give early on two fronts number one they have the most talent to their farm system. To they would be willing and able to signed early to -- Patrick is looking forward despite years at the rate of 7075 million total for the week."

[2:56]" That's that. Does that young talent mean specifically young pitching."

[3:01]" Well yes that's with the White Sox needed personal these guys beat everything as did they just fired their scouting director few days ago about a week ago they hired a guy over the weekend they just don't count in the farm systems it's really bad they they keep pitching they'd be -- shortstop okay they love this guy who'll be els buried in a cigarette he. It calculus should be if you are supposed to get -- confused because they like jet Lowry. There are two or three pitchers they've been watching. And doubt that they be so sure obviously the Red Sox have depth of talent and there are other teams that can afford to -- early to a new contract the Yankees can't -- talked to the Yankees the Mets camp the talk to the Mets the -- can't expect the braves braves aren't quite as willing as they used to be because it -- sort of approached down there but they believe that the reds should only -- qualified on two fronts. Number one they can afford early so they would have an incentive to trade for him and and not expect the walk at the end of the year. Which he will be here and number two they have the talent the prospects that the White Sox like the."

[4:01]" Does -- have no intention of resigning with the White Sox and is is asking price or what is assumed to be is asking price of the reason he's not part of the solution to go forward."

[4:10]" Well you know it's it's funny did did the answer is yes and yes early does not intend to be here. -- at the end of the year because the the White Sox haven't put it off from the tables -- last year Dick talked and this is not that is very important thing here this post this is why I think the Red Sox -- rush to get park early as quickly as they can't. This is a good guy here this is not an -- nasty. Animosity built negotiations early wants to stay here he wants to stay here they get along great there's nobody -- anybody everything's fine. It's just that the White Sox simply are not going to do for so little to fight your contracts with pitchers anyway and that's number one. Number two. They're disinclined to put 75 million dollars into one player at lest -- really believe. That they can count on help of production -- their philosophy -- pitchers generally arc help you for five years of course we've seen that to be true. They gave Paul -- pile of money for five or six years a seat at a goal after they won the World Series almost two seasons ago now. So they're not completely against it but in the case of pitchers they've had history of not doing -- So they believe he'll be gone and it's not so much the price it's a number of years I don't think it is great market that's 50 million a year for a solid starting pitchers too much money."

[5:26]" Now -- a horse for his career and a 31 -- your estimation how many more years does this kid have."

[5:32]" I think yeah I think that I need to look at his felt he had a bad year last year but I don't think it was calculated his bounced back nicely this year is -- year raised three point three. For four and for his his record he really ought to be about seven at three right now he has had to support this team can't hit the broad side of -- just aren't scoring runs so obviously his record. Even if you state has pretty RA which he does it could be could be better. -- in terms of wins two losses if they had some offensive support and I do think John that a five year investment perspective it is history. -- his attitude. Would be -- very good investment there's one wildcard here which I want to make strike it out. And I I have not been able to ascertain it is still true but I guarantee it was true -- because I got it from one of the participants in the conversation. Early gave the White Sox as word in spring training and I'd district about a few months a few weeks ago and I confirmed it about 34 weeks ago bottom of the he's given that he gave the White Sox -- word. That he would let them match any offer that if and when he becomes a free agent he gets an AB give the White Sox an opportunity to match it. So it's he wants to come back here in now he gets traded to the Red Sox I can't imagine the Red Sox or anybody getting. Acquiring him giving up -- young talent that -- they had some sort of the deal. So that would. Take the White Sox magic out of the White Sox think they're going to preserve that in formal right to match. By now allowing teams to talk while that I think they won't have -- trade because you know Theo Epstein at Keeneland these guys there among the smartest -- the Canada just back there about the extent to elect."

[7:07]" Do you see the other teams having the mix of that kind of money and the young talent that can be a part of the part of the mix."

[7:14]" Highly unlikely I know that the Yankees have a couple players Tom. Including there's there's one that I've never heard -- but he stating Beckett about this -- Ian Kennedy. And -- pitcher for the Yankees system. They they love this guy east -- seems to have one or two guys like such really love but the Red Sox have four or five guys. You know and they've already scouted the talent this has been going on for wild it was such a nice job of keeping it quiet but it's really not that. You know surprise it's almost open secret that they have to be prepared because they've lost gains. The India likelihood of a deal is virtually cemented. And the rest of the -- who has what I don't think anybody Steve has what the Red Sox have which you get his money and depth of talent."

[7:58]" that you get the sense that there may be a little bit of the Red Sox trying to drive the price up on August the second part of the question is. How interested are the Yankees in burly."

[8:07]" Well the Yankees know that they need all the help they can get but I think realistically. I don't care what happens as as far as winning some games. Beat the Red Sox in head to head competition cut it to seven games awful lead event that we can half or whatever they did. They've Yankees know their -- and not go anywhere so I can't see him giving up. The prospects the Red Sox are smart they vote the hard they drive the price that is the only elected to get out. But you know desperate people do desperate things and the Yankees always had that element but I think realistically just not going to see the Yankees stepped up the way the Red -- stepping."

[8:43]" I don't give us give us in descending order again if you would what is the White Sox want in return oppositional starting pitching or young starting pitcher it's -- first and foremost."

[8:52]" I would say I would -- pitching is number one and shortstop -- very close number to call 18 and you can flip -- those probably depending on the day of the week. And they could use some help in the outfield because -- Erstad was have been made it really isn't working out consistently held player but he's hurt he's hurt not help. That was only going to -- separate Jermaine Dye is going to because sooner than later so they do need some help in the outfield."

[9:16]" But mature sense is that the Red Sox balked on Jacoby -- because they think Coco Crisp may not be the answer in this of their center field of future that would be a deal breakers are Chicago's concern"

[9:26]" getting -- Outboard just tough question because these these guys your -- shortstop I don't think that they would have to they would probably look for greater number prospects -- irrelevant to guys including -- buried there at such that -- on the shortstop I mean that he's the outfield."

[9:41]" He's the outfield but I think they're my senses the Red Sox want to hang -- Brady outfielder."

[9:46]" Okay apartment which it would look like a shortstop like what you do but I do which is confused and in the problem if they signaled Goldsberry the outfielder I don't believe that the White Sox have a major problem that I think -- greater these -- short it's starting pitching."

[9:58]" This might just get done you know we're not yet what is this you if you've been around Dario offer enough and we your ball flight to -- there's a lot of pressure here all on Red Sox players pitchers performers big time. Scrutiny how would you hold up to have to something like that."

[10:13]" You know what -- I think you have to repair the question about the asking myself for the last two days it's starting to sniff out and and sometimes broke the story here that brilliant start working on ourselves. Has started as -- up at the Red Sox are the front running team. It's been very intelligent it is different let me answer questions I'd be broken hand. Because he he's pretty hard guy to rattle. But I don't think that he. Or anybody coming in that situation understands just what it's like to play at Boston -- just seems very you guys been talking about whatever argument trade. It is deposited different people talk about a fishbowl that -- defiant fishbowl and Red Sox nation. Everybody knows what you're doing you know if -- there's a page one story about it and in Chicago it's a different deal either personal. The White Sox are extremely popular team that won the World Series they've gone up by the radar tremendously. There's still number two to the cubs are not poor cousins as they were years ago best not the case. But there's but it's not as though we're in Boston where the Red Sox are it's. There's a Red Sox and and the patriots when they're playing -- and everybody else here. That that's application to baseball teams are extremely popular extremely popular. But it's a bigger city there's more going on here there are billions more people literally in the population in the business community park early and walked on Michigan to have you with his wife going shopping. And I guarantee he'll be stopped maybe. Three times in half an -- Are right in Boston that's just not going to happen going to be 30 times they have. It's -- much different situation. And he comes from rural Missouri he's a guy I would rather spent three hours you know in a duck blind standing entryway to shoot an animal that. You know have to try to negotiate you know of the little layers of felt -- that is -- the bat -- That'd hot button that I bet that different -- though man it's the it's culture shock but I'll say this of all the players I've met. Those were capable of focusing played the game. And and get out of dodge and finding some way to relax. Earliest capable of doing that he has tremendous character he's not a problem guy if you were to put him in a Red Sox uniform. The Red Sox would be better community for a guarantee."

[12:24]" It's so much as the bigger baseball team disappointment in Chicago this summer."

[12:28]" Well I'd have to say it's the cubs because they spent all that money right Soriano really start to hit now but I have to I have to laugh they were just saying the other they've -- at the other day they've made a mistake putting it center field you know we've we've all been talking about that for a month -- the base side and the guy. But yet definitely to cut because you know they swept the series. They're still below 500 and utley before games under it now and they still really just kind of just kind of sat there. It ought -- just recently. The only thing working in a cubs favors its a bad division the real bad division."

[13:00]" There's still second place."

[13:02]" Absolutely right stuff that they've got to go to shut. Of the white such a disappointment but I don't think they're quite as big a disappointment because they didn't quite get all of these players -- reached."

[13:12]" If this -- deals gonna happen you have any sense for the timing as it's sooner rather than later."

[13:16]" I think you'll be later it would not be sooner than later it'll take awhile because they personally have to July 31 deadline. I don't know what oh what the Red Sox with suitable -- want you talk with. We never -- goes on -- site he's talkative either at such draw for the player to get it done a -- Red Sox sit for awhile they'll keep you guys know what you want you know we have which one give us quality series. By Kenny Williams yesterday said that he can't envision camp. In vision park early being at a White Sox uniform after July 31 I think he was just talked."

[13:47]" We justices that the we want to send happily trading the guy you're definitely -- got."

[13:52]" Exactly and he said it one day he's he'd he'd never mentioned -- by the way but he made it very clear that early is going to be treated. Dispose of so by the way of talks recently breaking down that's a little misleading that the talks have been broken down since spring and even that's a -- it was just. And we'll agreed to disagree. Will agree that. We don't think we get this stuff right now. But this guaranty of early on the White Sox I'll give you a chance to match he made that personally the White Sox owner Jerry Reinsdorf. So that's the type of relationship that there is between player at organization."

[14:25]" That's all -- this year. I think so but Ozzie keeps pocket electric I almost welcome to get on it and I didn't read it talking about given a little eccentric out. Packing a year in the country -- her -- disagree."

[14:41]" Let's talk 70 and media in Chicago -- thanks for much always like talkin' Chicago sports is nobody better connected new different."

[14:48]" Always good to have got a kick -- for -- Kemper -- just next Thursday to -- Olympic Jason Garrett I'd like to sell up you get more vacation energetic person -- don't think so -- the time I did Thompson yeah in Chicago all"