[0:01]" Fourth and final are Dennis and Callahan Bob -- Meyer along -- the Curt Schilling interview was brought you by a stick and he says receipts. To all the games at -- park this year the best seats in town called ace tickets. At 1800 my seats that's 1800 my seats or log on ace ticket dot com good morning -- you wrote today on 38 pitches you were stunned and shocked in the fifth inning last night -- rarely stunned and shocked in your career you want to explain."

[0:28]" Well it's the I guess there's you know there's times in the game when you're working it and try to get through company in Munich doable -- like. Probably not -- that are pitched. But don't -- you know it happens then there are other times in the -- but happens in elected it it's not he wasn't helping you were even contemplating is about 12. And I just. There was world situations where I was so locked among our predictions and I knew exactly what I want to do -- fully exactly perfect about. Situation and and you know I knew it was so I felt so good about I knew if it but it picked a perfect. Pitch and had been a great idea it was the right pitch in. If I was wrong on every count and that just popped up on news."

[1:14]" The wind was blowing in you said you're going to try to keep the right field both of those things took place in the main difference."

[1:19]" Well when he hit a ball left for the Olympic style of -- out of butler was the the cold -- yet -- he you know he crushed and nudist it is very rested my reaction I was -- he. Where register Vietnam --"

[1:33]" Hey I know you keep voluminous notes and I don't know how deep till they go if they get to this level you give up all six runs with two outs that -- that the past."

[1:43]" We I don't I yeah I've I've had times in my career popular stretches where it's happened a lot -- given up but I've had years where where I would've had the RA that would benefit top of the league or if not leading the league have a back up to our roster and they give up -- as many as I did it."

[2:01]" This might fall into the category splitting hairs but help me out with this what is more maddening to use an -- to pitch. That's much too fat and gets knocked out of the park or a two out hit the produces a run."

[2:15]" Quality of build a vote to pitch news. There's worse because you convince the big leagues. You you are competing you can make a quality to strike and there's evidence is not you know. 13 year old baseball where you hear that post -- to wait to pitch every pitch is done -- it's great for the purpose and if -- point two apparently -- ball it's a total all the set up the next strike when it actually crawling all the part of his own. But I'm going to change the guys are available for the following pitch I'm going to throw -- ball in the pocket I don't -- opposite but you know otsuka Padilla everybody screams about common it's one of those things you're taught at a young gate that. Which you learn how to pitch it it really isn't what people told you once you started the do it in the because of because -- was the guy at first they're responsive. I don't know quite -- ball owed to fight nor can get an adult. And then that's kind of how you start that the -- ability to command the baseball."

[3:17]" part of your frustration during the ending was it in so -- court because. Two guys on nobody out you know -- right -- you're in trouble Helton comes up who's worn you out years you'd get help me. -- you strike out the next guy with the with the great split finger. Yeah and now you're facing you know. You know yeah I guess yeah."

[3:39]" Yeah yeah you're right on enough of an -- that's. That is people -- think about it was that guilty if you ever. What's also -- speed factors media wiggle or or bigger -- for a first play the changeup is apparent that I can roll off of that without telling you know. Because it's not it doesn't have to adjust to catch it. Arm right I knew it was the right he called split I noticed the right pitch to throw and -- and and that just is something that doesn't happen QB yes that's exactly. You know and I can't tell you probably can't let down but this year where I've gotten into a grinder rough situation. In a -- to compensate some great pitches because out of it. You know and literally -- one pitch away and that's what about -- had two outs you have not given up a run yet. I'm not sure how many pitches that was exactly but I guarantee was 20 to 30 last night that I had a chance to make a pitch get an out. And end. Don't you play you know it's over instead of doing what -- on an appropriate mourning last --"

[4:44]" Does that -- at all with your confidence in that pitch."

[4:47]" Well you know what no it doesn't because you've. I don't think like that it you know. I don't know how to explain I I'd definitely take that they'll behind like figures -- Always complain right now I should have. You know fight post went right -- your -- alright about it yet to get three to two I promise you we when they came last led by all the 232 regardless of what department that the ability. We get 69 to drop it to struggling in and geysers start -- just makes it next to impossible that matters that it."

[5:22]" you'd you know in in mentioning tech calling split you having the option to throw the change their -- what was going to go there but I I don't know that it's been discussed at this level. Would you would you compare last I thought process in that situation to the no hitter almost no hitter last Thursday when you when you shook him up what was the thought process of what he wanted to do what you thought to wanted to do"

[5:42]" well you know he wanted to. Who we can talk about in -- I I wasn't proper conversation does that negate our literature will talk about today but he was sure it is that was the -- it's obviously. Again you know if five phone a thousand pitches -- and I chicken off you know 200 times. I would like depicted there about a 195 -- it worked in the -- it. Last night's game was close games the last scores horrible I did terrible BP you know -- you're as inconsistent of that that you -- you -- dissect things bounces. Visit to the pitch to play and -- other but 19 different. Points and making it must Republican go now. You know what a difference of the first -- First play the game as -- Jim -- short that if if Julio -- gets about a party politics played I pod. While we ought to outside next -- got -- part of the puzzle person market it's sort of a beit Omar battle all but now I'm I think tripper got it also happens so yeah -- tested then that the second inning. Two I've never I've I've had that happened you don't want every three months that the chopper down the line that this forcibly fair foul back to back pitches. I mean it just goes to show you that that didn't put a no hitter often times -- you know when you're not Justin Verlander do you -- hundred. There's a lot of there's a lot of things that have to go perfectly right in and I pitch that in a lot of things in the right."

[7:11]" The last that was a perfect reason why people shouldn't bet on baseball for God's sake you know I mean if you look at the match up -- get everything going on it's -- well let's look at the -- on on Schilling in the Red Sox against you know fog or whatever else and I."

[7:23]" I got asked that question after the game meant an anti you know value -- it's funny because. I think that -- might just be me I think the exact opposite of the way he would think about that lot oh absolutely that terrifies me yeah because a lot of times which -- someone who really has nothing to lose. Or you deal with the guy who's like you know what -- pitched well it at all but don't I don't write and and and beyond but obviously guys -- You know doesn't sleep for eight to ten days -- a horrible game like gotten you know everything the mostly jump right on the -- just --"

[8:00]" So guy who has nothing to lose oftentimes doesn't get in his own way."

[8:04]" He's not a guy who has nothing to lose -- guided to the panel all wanted I'm not the front Josh Fogg got sent down just talking about what you. You look at it from from that perspective it. The hard part is that you. There are guys put them who don't know quality pitch every fifth day and now they -- they -- the belt develop get paid totally won't do one job because older cotton -- our border it."

[8:26]" It it -- Back to that to the your thoughts about the when hitter in the immediate aftermath of that game your body language was clear you were very happy smiling guy for a lot of good reasons you put up losing streak -- pitched a great game you were not so much concerned about what might have been in the reality of winning that game. As you do it however in the four or five days after that game where there -- times when in a quiet moment you thought about what might have been."

[9:00]" that night I didn't mean. I can remember I was ecstatic when the game's over army -- there was little bit disappointed but I was ecstatic and then. At about 10 O'Clock that night -- somewhere that and that evening considered on. Holy -- almost throw a no hitter in the -- are out of -- local. That then obviously sporting player Justin Verlander goes on post one I'm you know it's almost here's where where. I might be the first guy in the history can't get abused don't want hitter out like Bob Justin Verlander to do what I -- videos like you know it's one of those things committed just. But yeah oh absolutely -- I'm human that a no hitter I mean I was I was literally two pitches away from a perfect game. And and yeah out of double have been awesome to put on the rest of the then. You startled look at it again I'm I'm big baseball fan my whole life so I don't know what I've seen on TV you know when he cut it actually a lot of guys. Throw no hitters in in. I would say with a rare exception most of them don't have to do with the with the guys stopped there have to be the right daddy and give bud Smith but the cardinals Kenny Rogers by no means of our -- if you look at Nolan don't seven and and some other guys have thrown more than one both guys are stuff guys you know guys like purple people like originally wanted to needs help it."

[10:17]" Baker last Thursday as the no hitter is unfolding of the wonders unfolding in Oakland I assume you heard the fan behind the dugout making sure you -- you had one. It it. If you thought how let me start and and did you find it laughable funny that relax you did and what what to do."

[10:32]" You know I I cannot deteriorated beyond the comment I never I never thought about it -- he started by ticket the second. And then you know it just but that happens -- interpreted in the ballpark away from. From home plate yeah some some some guys going to be their he's got a perfect game generally you know it's it's just --"

[10:53]" And is a sit on the bench and they start to a avoid use -- happen. Obviously try to -- your thoughts on the task at hand in getting guys out as opposed to all I almost have this done."

[11:03]" Read right I want to what if you ever noticed for the most part. People -- yeah I don't I don't speak any but it means other than John and Jason or art are popular one a -- good supporters about positioning in the next inning or. How want to look at guys the next inning -- that. I don't if it's an act sad part time again this has opened to do what the they'll put on that that that bad you know. Going to kick to rest basis not want to be tough got a decades. There's just no conversation outside the ones that I have a much capture my infielders or or -- approach that has anything to do donuts and you know I've never looked at it like I was I was the most blessed guy in the world but I feel like I've had to work. With the what -- been given to be what I am and I and I have to continue to do that from my own peace of mind -- gillick I had there's a lot of things -- to do that makes some of the guys don't dubious because they are."

[11:54]" Final question on the one hitter and will move off of that two guys that the very same thing after the -- there was broken up -- and Tito said the same thing. They thought maybe you know Texan was going to go out there and the balls that we saw the look on his space about. Half a second. After the ball dropped its that there was no need to go out noted column down -- there was some looked on your face some kind of resolve that said. He's okay he's now focusing on what he needs to do and that's win this game yet -- that happened so quickly."

[12:21]" Well I think you saw after the game I think you saw how happy I -- after the game -- I would applaud it and also I would have loved to have -- it just doesn't know. And it's almost want to or apartment sort of almost 500 in that never have on the -- that. But the second up all -- the infield I'm back to four game losing streak I'm supposed to stop losing streaks that's going to get paid to do there's a runner on first guy at the plate as wore us out. I haven't thought first -- about -- an -- that thought it was difficult trip through counsel. There's a billion things that that to keep me occupy topic about. And I've you know -- I I was. I was so locked up on trying to win that game and be the -- guy that the no hitter would've been great fun but it at the end of the date it is nothing more than a personal accomplishment and then in the -- in the things that's me."

[13:07]" As as frustrated but as disappointed as you were that netted 10 O'Clock I can imagine by a factor of how many that you lost concentration there and given up a walk off home run -- lost that game 21."

[13:19]" I I -- you'd -- to understand something to talk into the gut I know for a fact I'm the only guy in his 1940. To take it for nothing lead into the bottom of the ninth inning and still be in the game one -- to -- before. You know I've I've been there and I bet on the other and it cannot slide now I know exactly -- things can happen and you know my job. As soon as there's -- veteran of the staff is is there is to right the ship when the -- not doing well when and that was -- and so. You know post were there was a lot of lessons and that in the up -- beckham walked out I'd look government could not -- get back there and like it alternatives think that. But you know -- that's something in my blog up to that about that's the kind of team that we and that's that's the thing that makes you appreciate exactly what it is that we. Out you know when when anybody on the team is doing something positive or negative. I feel and I think as a team we feel a lot more than a lot of relatives or play -- We took a lot about each other when were were very close group of guys so so made me feel good that they were doing that but I needed to make sure that they understood. I -- I have it under control."

[14:28]" I'm interested in your approach towards a guy like Helton who as -- I'm allowed the past you know and look at the guys -- great series were out of pitchers out is the real didn't act or does he have an odd or feel free you how is one guy successful against you if it's not random question a question be is how then do you. Get to a game plan trying get this guy out."

[14:52]" All I can tell you I said that -- the supportive of the game of the day when he was in the big leagues I would tell you. And plus legal one guy that I always disliked facing more than anybody was Parnell he was a guy -- groundout in the -- harder and and stronger than what they have ever played against and I think that that I don't think it's a common I think if you look at his numbers and I cannot compare -- Tony Gwynn with the you know obviously a lot more power. But if you look at guys like that that hit for really high averages the Albert pool -- the world. More times than not the guys that they hit the -- going to be the guys that throw a lot of strikes. And and that's one thing I'd do and you know if you watched the you have three about last night I think -- 26 pitches and I think one or two of those I was -- He doesn't strike out and as someone who -- lot like me who relies on on getting guys did to go after the ball strikes on. He does that not only does not -- extremely bad pitches but when he chases the bad -- he tends to follow up but I 80 I think it's a byproduct of his immense talent more than anything made mistakes in the past them if you look at a belly -- dot -- and it was a -- opponent before and you know that I was really kind of in -- Stuff as I knew I would have to give them but that's just that's would you accept that as you if you go to public."

[16:19]" all of -- that it that followed baseball realized that the New York Yankees were much better club than their record would indicate my question might be. Is it purely coincidence that. A guy like Roger Clemens could walk into their club Hollis and necessarily that they would ring off eight wins in a row but somehow that there is a -- it's -- calming influence knowing that they have a guy out there. May be Curt Schilling as one may be Randy Johnson is -- of the that they know every fifth day. He's -- to brought here and have a good chance of stopping losing streak and he brings a calm this innate confidence to a ball"

[16:57]" capsule absolutely I think. I I I'd kind of laughed that that the commentary going into. -- are riding in the people that doubted whether he was going to be that are not he never not one. He's always been good and he'd always been successful -- I never thought for a second he wouldn't come and be good now but I also know that you know him coming Barrett what -- makes it not going to help them win the championship that they don't albeit they're supposed to do. Having said that I guarantee it'll let I guarantee you that whole team feels pretty good about themselves right now because the plane and well and and win you've got that environment in that amount of media. A round Q. You know the times like right now or are few and far between when things are all hunky -- everybody's happy and things are -- well. And you you enjoy it I'm sure there -- join right now they're they're they're playing the buck up and play him like everybody thought they could. You know but you know if you if if you're going to refer back to -- and then try and -- but it trying to two point bottom -- Well we end up at the embassy in the is absolutely unequivocally up. And -- it earlier we control our own it and -- we played them enough times and and all the things that go with that -- that if if this is going to and on the bad noted will be nobody fault but our own -- out of the."

[18:25]" we know regular pitching expert but do you believe the lineup. On this baseball team is going to start to hit the score some --"

[18:32]" A lot yeah salute where what do -- funk right now and you know I I I'm proud of the fact that we. Informed for over stretching games we didn't really do anything -- Our rotations stepped up our bullpen stepped up but I think I'd think you're -- regularly got he -- guys that are -- that are that are present. Preston in in guys that are. Struggling are going to start pressing win win. -- in the it'll work itself in and get around in and the topic -- how about where were we are offensively which you know that that's a topic now and in the media it is it is almost banks and and you're gonna go -- but -- our staff is good enough to offset those kind of struggles. We have to prove we get to do it and -- have to be consistent."

[19:21]" When we have Tom Brady on on patriot money Monday his favorite part of the interview is our theoretical question portion yeah I know I don't like that so here's my theoretical question you Curt Schilling. If deal approached to within one year extension at 13 million dollars in handed to -- you're right we were wrong in spring training let's get next year taking care of and locked up right now Curt Schilling would say. -- with enough sense at upset. -- do you endorse my idea that that rather than denigrate Barry Bonds this weekend that may be a classy thing to do would be to -- Henry Aaron when he comes of the plate"

[19:58]" I don't know loop that's -- it's going to be what it's going to be in and I don't know really development thought about it really."

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[20:16]" They -- might -- don't know what to do. Early though but the but the."

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