[0:00] ..." Our conversation Curt Schilling has brought to you by DC you'd digital federal credit union for bank in the DC -- go to DC you'd dot"...

[1:11] ..." point and I think. I really believe and I think sort of World Series now is abuse is not is that it not successfully grand scheme of things on you know. I certainly don't believe that you know the Braves went fourteen years one world -- the way to go play it but I think bit. We have expectations that are realistic now in those expectations to meet are. To the World Series and went."...

[2:33] ..." up a run or two away from I mean that was the World Series in my estimation last night of the -- going to be Philadelphia."...

[7:32] ..." you know. In a personal habits from my big games 71 World Series and threw six innings at least eighteen hitters. I didn't I didn't really -- do anything and are certain incidents perhaps get"...

[9:57] ..." You think BJ Upton might hit more than nine home runs next year and 530 at --"...

[19:45] ..." the division next year occasional. -- Tampa -- going to win the World Series I think and they just won the division and the Yankees who just buy up every free agent that they that they"...

[20:58] ..." of the big bouts are and in the lineup the same time. Cole Hamels is every bit as good as to muster is right now on he's he's role all but not well."...

[0:00]" Our conversation Curt Schilling has brought to you by DC you'd digital federal credit union for bank in the DC -- go to DC you'd dot or good morning."

[0:08]" Or not or yeah pretty much shut down very -- valid legitimate but I don't really care thing they're -- that. I didn't really -- outdoors you know I don't just so enjoyable. I don't want to do but I got blood on what are you actually just. What we're not -- of."

[0:29]" It's like that'll bill -- bit consider that we have jock rational scrap tooth for a couple days because when you finally scratch it all those really good."

[0:36]" Condit did would want to most out of sight out of mind -- and also in the paint them. -- I just -- really don't have a good play."

[0:42]" Yeah nice paid out what we're going to start two over the question we've announced in a little bit overall philosophically. At the big picture. Was this a successful Red Sox season. --"

[0:58]" I picked it off visited."

[0:59]" Well you know what I I think the couple years ago it might have been considered one but I don't think it is anymore I think. In a good way I think we have moved. A few bubbles. From an expectation that point and I think. I really believe and I think sort of World Series now is abuse is not is that it not successfully grand scheme of things on you know. I certainly don't believe that you know the Braves went fourteen years one world -- the way to go play it but I think bit. We have expectations that are realistic now in those expectations to meet are. To the World Series and went."

[1:38]" So by that train of thought at the rays lost last night would that have been a successful season for Tampa. Oh yeah hell yeah."

[1:45]" The I -- if you ask them that the parents again -- part of the last week in the in the park but. -- when he asked the question. -- have to meet 45 minutes up Percy ended abruptly -- so you know you're asking me. -- December -- we we we did some things but what are we to do and and you know which changed the landscape in Tampa April baseball prospectus and and -- does not want to be a -- division because of them."

[2:11]" Yet that the the general comment was I think the perception of the Red Sox in this offseason. Changed in that game five comeback at the Sox lost three in a row at Fenway Park and go on quietly into the good night as defending champions that I think it would have been much more disappointment a much more. It's at the word disappointment then the that the valiant effort coming back from seven down -- game six and BM you know just up a run or two away from I mean that was the World Series in my estimation last night of the -- going to be Philadelphia."

[2:39]" Yeah a big golf -- now over in the in the American League in in parts not a distinct -- to -- you know I think deal. The only team I've felt that could be it may help team in the postseason in the post is actually. But I think it's different -- right right right hate. It's just. Believe -- it's the Arctic what does the last ten years we've had seven world champions. Haven't this year. From our division so it's or so I don't know it's something like but it it's it's it's almost think that. Game five can be put the nail in not in the pop and the put an ill suited to the -- hang on the wall that that. You will never ever ever as a boss and then be able turn it off but in -- pathetic. Anymore and legitimately not. -- surprise in the forty to -- back want this it's different. The expectations -- different. The talent is everything different now and and you know that whole we've been -- that's -- Red Sox its pockets we turn agent new chapter in the pitchers -- it."

[3:44]" It. It's the big its. Collection of the most clutch players ever remember see in -- mean clearly. In eagle Pedroia and Ortiz TU coolest and the bay now used to be -- and the guys who. Arrived in these moments in and I don't know some moments by accident some what you just lock into new Pedroia was this can. Clutch player and and use I think there's a certain infectious. Contagious. Too -- you know like advocates is we know you. You're always a clutch guy and you came here and can you know it's spread it spread to the guys that."

[4:21]" You know I would argue one of the the appointed -- Pedroia at the Red Sox know they trapped in the second round. When I don't nobody was even on other people's strap sports. You know I mean -- in the end the same goes for you listen. You know that I heard Steve Phillips -- and an -- that was surprising right in my opinion. Which was big -- baseball players. This is an organization of baseball players this is not. You know beat the the Billy beane money ball flight to a player who really don't understand the game but he has it -- On the stopwatch and in the batting cage which Obama -- at a baseball players and it from the mound to that the defense did its. It's a different I I thought it was real telling last night and I think that they all all you know I heard it earlier talked about how are we talked about probably where each other. You know that's somewhat different than a lot of things you perked up routines have been eliminated here in about. You know a lot of articles and European. What -- for many it was a platform that make your -- know that that he was on the market now available highest bidder -- For other teams it's sort of ability to win -- but all all the government teams that -- the -- Dmitri understood operative work each other. And I think that's beats Washington you know to us saying the black at all I didn't miss it. You know what he's at the last few months have been the most enjoyable that perhaps. There's something to that. You know end and and I think that this organization learned some valuable lessons going forward. You know from the marriage situation 22. 22 yesterday and I think they're going to be things -- benefit the team."

[5:55]" I was I predicted that -- seven but I gotta be honest current. For all day yesterday people asking what's going to happen I was 100 isn't convinced. You guys your team the Red Sox we're going to finish the job finished the comeback the beginning game five were you surprised or was is just a simple matter of you know one starting -- they both came up big in rent one just came up bigger than the other."

[6:18]" More perspective too I mean. I don't know what the biggest one was and I'm not sure what. But if you talk anybody it was after 86 it's over there's no possible way wobble wobble. And that's -- of things we need to we have talked about this so many times. That is so relevant to us as players. Because as much momentum as you get from. From most excuse winning game five and and you -- and games six and just put on. And our performance. It has nothing to do what it's one of games have nothing and do if we come out -- the -- that we -- Have come out last night with a three spot up on the board problem first I would argue became the battle that was that was but the one run. You know that that it's certainly need to feel good and I'm sure there are some guys in the dugout on their -- on now and I got arsenic -- yep that is. But the starting pitcher has actually pulled control over how that the ebb and -- product -- and that was phenomenal last might phenomenal and you know that's what it is in most games. You know I thought in the first three innings. That was as well chart rosters are prepared. And I really you know -- it was funny because I was. I would go back -- brought -- you know. In a personal habits from my big games 71 World Series and threw six innings at least eighteen hitters. I didn't I didn't really -- do anything and are certain incidents perhaps get a couple it's been brought. Because he was just so perfect and that's exactly what happened but to come as no surprise. That it did happen. Because they've done all year that's exactly how that team got to -- what. And you know -- it's not everybody is not ever walk much are the moment in this Sorenson did they do. But the way we never -- Q do you in the in the game sevens and."

[8:06]" Baker for Tampa Bay was this like the Patriots noble game prior to their dynasty launching. That is to say a gateway event. Two years and years of great things that might not ever happen if the rays lose this game last night."

[8:20]" Well I I don't know because there's a couple pieces in place now that and then -- earlier predicted -- to -- it's the only state -- another potential power of daily lineup. -- and they went through some. Devastating injury this year one point Crawford nobody on that roster duplicate their roster there's not one guy we -- statistically this guy it was a freak. There's no way he's ever going to do that began the fact pagan idol -- distributed last year. But -- You're -- in this in this game and I think fans for the most part horribly underestimate the value and compositional roster you bring in guys like -- and Troy Percival veteran guys who you know -- Eric had a good year a real figure of them that. Those are the guys after that game five who -- sit -- on you know what it. This ducks have a beer -- it loaded fly -- and do whatever we gotta do I mean. Those little things are just so underrated publicly and and invaluable in the club out that. But they position themselves again they had they both anomaly year and has been talked to visit baseball don't out of that that break -- season. And they -- getting it picked out to be good example take on number five starter whatever his starts were this year and replace an extra -- right."

[9:36]" I -- I gotta argue that that doesn't -- last game. Now -- aren't as it is now I would imagine they'll probably go out and put do put a closer in the back it up bullpen. -- a bit there about point the goal way and they're going to get better but it comes up I think because -- us that your number one. Are you -- one run games and and physically how healthy or."

[9:57]" You think BJ Upton might hit more than nine home runs next year and 530 at --"

[10:03]" Well but the thing that the reason that that I think -- boat Wallace is met and has made it very clear that he's semester that team. And and the PGA appears I don't know him. At all so I'm just speculating he was spent quite this year for doing things they'll conduct unbecoming. And this could only served to make him more of a a potential issue. But when you have a guy around the ship and I think Joe was very much like you don't have sent. He understands his personnel those guys are are going to be together and it started is everything he was emas. You know talked about -- it nine this year and what seven in the playoffs."

[10:42]" In thirty at --"

[10:44]" Yeah well he was hurt obviously towards -- as well. But again bait get what they did without their personal staying healthy all year and they're going to get better their stock. In the gonna get better and I don't imagine will be players in the free agent market within recent. On but there's always the think that this is not going to make this division --"

[11:01]" We talked about this before -- but do you think you have to make changes you guys Red Sox are set at most positions. Is it okay to go into next -- with the same team that. Just lost to Tampa last night."

[11:15]" Yep yep but they won't. They won't -- they've they've Lamotte. They'll be changes there's going to be you know -- the problem been more changes in the world last year but not like it was after oral. That's just how they operate they're going to be players in the market for the big name free agents of the the deals are right that the deals worked in in -- internal question that -- their super -- reflect back in the going to resign Jason and and you know. I'm hoping beyond hope that the news out of Mike circuit today as part of that's pretty serious -- to take some time but you know the fact that they -- depicted in the circumstances they did them. But it -- back with the -- above I can be proud of these guys and the maturation of a couple watched it happened just. It's sort of hard Jon Leicester this year at Justin Masterson. This is going to be real good team prolong."

[12:06]" does the possibility exists that the pitching staff as a whole. Could suffer a very text up behind the plate next year."

[12:13]" Do it -- it will and then it's is undeniable because you know it's not about the fact that you have a catcher back there who who. Does things differently and and makes the transition super pitchers. You've got in the I would argue that no nobody in the big leagues organist -- got the smartest catcher in baseball -- it's not but he knows his pitchers as well. That's popular thing you know every single hitter in the game. As well or better than no themselves. And and that is literally like haven't. You know statisticians pledged coach -- out on the field actively play. My argument for -- would probably be -- and he couldn't. -- worse here than at opposite here I know and he'll never admit it and he would never even broached the subject. I know how much was going -- and it -- to them physically and mentally this year how incredibly. Hardin county once for him and that's not to make an excuse it is what it is he wouldn't use that. But I promise you that that Jason protective next year will not be as best warmup struggled what is it this year."

[13:18]" But how does I don't see how he comes back here -- agent. Doesn't Boris take all his guys shop them right into the new year. And -- the Red Sox have to go to the back -- plan if that's the case."

[13:29]" Well it depends I mean you're you're you're I think you're dealing with one of the few quietly that I know of who gets what he wants -- what an agent wants. You know chasing him back here Portland and last less time and help people argued there was no other bidders on the market. And I can promise you that that's not true number one number two is that. There are sixty -- sixteen and actually came at sixteen actually games -- fourteen that will run. -- but 200 hitting catcher in the number eight on the lineup out there every -- April -- beat -- it would it. That's Jason not going to be 200 -- there will be teams bidding for services. I think this is his is sweet spot as -- place and I think if he wants you back your bad enough you'll be."

[14:12]" could could a guy like cash or anybody say someone could terrorists. Could they learn to handle pitchers like their tech or is it just this singular talent that isn't translate well to the fact that guys are guys in the minors."

[14:25]" That figure -- understand about what people that loses its not it's not the it's -- skill. It is -- an airport you make up there's that there is that there have to be at. You'd you'd just have to see him do it to understand it it's an inherent part of its for example. 90% in 99% of they're played with a country apart -- look at the lineup took over the want opener had that would complicate it put our. Talked roster else work done you know there's -- That our usually stick up for him literally on my -- it's but it's in on each interval one -- and then with the pitching coach -- He doesn't put a finger down during a game that he's never not prepared to defend or -- have a reason for those guys just don't exit. They are comparable and saying it would through baseball he's one of well he's the only one that ever took it to what he did it's not it's not a learned skill it's not something because you'd have to have. And hair desire to speak great that it to -- the -- he did and very few guys that I've ever been around that catchers ever had that desire."

[15:28]" Do you. We expect to see Wakefield back in the -- such uniform next season."

[15:33]" Are you ought not I don't know I don't know Alf is -- was in the year. I don't know the plans are an excerpt where you know I would assume. That. The intent is to move just in the rotation but again I'm guessing I don't know I really don't know how to play out. You know it it's his contract rights as an option it's. You know he had I think their report most blown saves in the majors. You know. With -- you're going to run a lot of -- wars. The latest scores which I think they're pretty intent on doing -- He becomes much more attractive option accurate team partner Robert team you know struggle and they get respectability at the Buick titled the."

[16:13]" Baker back the you know final push them Ameritech of the free agencies the thing I -- the into this each case is individual each guy is individual but generally speaking Clement ego standpoint. What is a veteran's mentality about taking a pay cut and staying where he was versus taking a pay cut going somewhere else."

[16:31]" It depends a couple things one I think it's that there isn't there isn't self evaluation piece becomes in the play and it's not honest about people lives up to the relevant. Yet -- know what you're capable of honestly realistically which you which are potentially capable of and part of it it the hard part that is you don't ever want to limit yourself and I know Jason -- that's who's never had a -- a ceiling for himself. You know understanding what. Physically you can do and get a piece of that is you know I keep hearing all the stuff about you know he doesn't throw runners out wobble wobble block. What did you broke clear based on are still on pitchers. It'll still catchers with exceptional Mike got a every -- it's -- sort -- most were still on pitchers. And if you have to step it doesn't hold runners well and for the most part we were okay -- that we order consistently really good. It before obviously always all the on the catcher so that's that's the yes I want as much as you like to think he has the you know the other pieces is is you know it it. With about forty -- I EI have our part in him wear another uniform. It and again people that that live and breathe on OBP and and oh yes but like that. Are going to screamed and I haven't the that's the -- just. Does Tucker's way it does matter it does have an effect and an impact it even keel visibility as it is he doesn't talk a lot from. Leadership standpoint to be using says. Opportunistic thing. At the right times and you know there are a couple of the guys -- closet do that -- welcome Mike all too well PD and that's everybody all -- so he's always. If you gonna have to wait other plays into with the Padilla today. Now maybe maybe the situation connectors you'd bring a guy and I think that's 5560 but it. And and and Jason. You know. Something that is eighty odd night by Arnold well I don't know it just a great teamwork you know."

[18:26]" He does the self evaluation process that you mentioned that I'm sure he will given the you know the the the detention a deep field guy that he is. Given his vast knowledge of the Red Sox pitching staff would need not be much more valuable to the Red Sox pitching staff than any other team in based."

[18:40]" Well no question a question. That's not the state is -- the kind of -- that repeated like somewhere else to block it's retraining. That brought about alter but he is -- that's that's the fact matter if he's got a huge head start here in the value. -- value here it is far more that the that might be another place with another. You know again how much. Weight is given to that. But organization is going to be Pete Gillen and they you know you. -- pretty good about that stuff he doesn't. For the most part overlook that. And I think that that'll that'll certainly played into it and yet it's going to depend on what we want I want to the other piece no doubt it physically. You know that's the position that just beat the Claudia. I I'm going to be broke -- that nobody is that that's put up this -- when he uses it has to -- a shape as he has a consistent basis or your long. They had to get her out of -- Europe that nagging injuries but. He takes care -- so but I wherever that."

[19:37]" Heck at the theme for the Red Sox in 9 going into the season's going to be we'll get any respect because I think people will pick. Then to finish third in the division next year occasional. -- Tampa -- going to win the World Series I think and they just won the division and the Yankees who just buy up every free agent that they that they -- out with their new revenue. Red Sox will be able to go under the radar next year."

[19:59]" Well I don't I think by people would know the game a topic that's going to be the -- Tampa Bay like that -- he'd been getting worse. A city Yankees spending. You know insane amount of money to bring in players that may or may not -- But I I beat this -- going out again -- winner and adding the pieces in the places that it the most. And you know I think -- people dead or specific this year he collegiate returning with six or seven big league starting pitchers. And I think the EPA you know it I would I don't know -- held true this year but. You know the team to -- the best for the team and at that that you're starting -- disabled list state currencies and it was about arbitration again this year in this division. You know what they're going to get the respect they deserve because they're on the they're going to be the that the pop out -- but it appeared I would disagree I think Philadelphia has. The very legitimate chance to win just because I think. If that was on game one it's an opponent that's going to be tough matchup because of the big bouts are and in the lineup the same time. Cole Hamels is every bit as good as to muster is right now on he's he's role all but not well."

[21:09]" Her watching other rays pitched David with your critically acclaimed I can can you put it to bed that David struggles had little or nothing to do with man his absence in the lineup."

[21:21]" But in many -- behind David certainly had an effective. Because -- the other team it can affect us and ineffectual. You know he used to be you wouldn't it's too long or he would have to pitch to on right now you did did which you felt like Dillon. So it's definitely different. You know you've probably had David pressing a little bit early. You know those things and the -- Rolen and they get they get magnified immensely -- five of seven game series. But. He pitched well they know they executed for the most part really really well and I was like everybody else like but after that the home run it like that would OK here goes but it just again that the work that way they. They stayed he was because they were they were focused on not letting him beat them and the other the the the downside that is in our lineup most -- time. There's four part of the guys it will beat -- from J. D. Drew to -- we used to be -- and and and things like that that. They had their chances they had their chances -- game to. You know to. Could've gone either way and it didn't they have the chances in the got beat by a better. And that's that's the way it goes in. Rightfully expect them be right back in the -- and."

[22:33]" Well I'm not mistaken this is probably our last conversation until we see you -- raise you know for next year's regretting. So I have to ask an early age anymore that. I don't. I have to ask the obligatory question I tried before and it Tiffany's anti big announcement you like to make Boris and --"

[22:51]" No I I. Will respect him enough -- appeal or -- which is you don't vote."

[22:56]" An envelope envelope. Hello this is trouble now."

[23:00]" I Arnelle I don't picket and right to it doesn't help literal about it anymore anyway."

[23:07]" I think he you outweigh the -- personal endorsement you know he gets old ball with flowers in the."