[0:00] ..." Terry Francona will be joining us very shortly in fact so shortly. Go -- on now. He joins on the eighteenth -- hotline it's manager Terry Francona Terry is also brought to buy a -- insurance. Interest systems doctor Robert Leonard at 1800 get -- Terry joins us now"...

[3:55] ..." night human rights Papelbon tonight before what have you noticed or maybe John Farrell. Has noticed with Okajima is is he a different guy over these last few weeks is he doing anything differently. Trying to"...

[12:55] ..." a -- to 300 on the street even wanted that number also. Dustin Pedroia. Went from 330 twos sixty -- reporting that. Has it's as cold as good hitters yet. They get just as hot --"...

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[21:59] ..." All right Terry Francona Red Sox manager out the outs are good luck this afternoon -- taking the time look at. It. Okay for being selected to improbably has won a midweek hotel stay at Mohegan Sun Mohegan -- a world that play Terry Francona is brought to buy AT&T with more bars in more places switch to the wireless network with the best global coverage AT&T"...

[0:00]" Terry Francona will be joining us very shortly in fact so shortly. Go -- on now. He joins on the eighteenth -- hotline it's manager Terry Francona Terry is also brought to buy a -- insurance. Interest systems doctor Robert Leonard at 1800 get -- Terry joins us now from Seattle RLR yeah. Don't morning I gotta like the way of starting pitching is like the last two nights out Terry."

[0:23]" Actually bring more than that -- what was tremendously at a time. What are our starters to -- in the suburbs and into the seats. It did the -- became certainly a lot mormons as bold you don't have sides -- people don't want to and more often than not you're probably going to heavily."

[0:41]" So anything different Terry with how Matsuzaka was approaching things last night -- he has over the last few starts or is it pretty much been the same guy I -- two walks last night but. Of the temple was there may be that a lot to do with Seattle to being aggressive at the plate."

[0:56]" Well I think hit three walks could maybe -- to. You look fit yeah every lovable little bit unique little different. Little bits and guys are up there are certainly aggressively try to take advantage of that. That a certain -- against maybe that chicken little bewildered runners score position which we try to recognize also. Regardless if you patrol they'll all which strikes -- account. You're gonna you should set up the plate for the rest up that but did a good job at LS -- strike one and -- some monitor the location. And get support for some good slider arms were changeup -- all the discussed all it is different hitters -- different looks. And then never really letting him be culpable or they do they play off one pitch and sold it on just another -- novellus there was a recent -- socialist."

[1:45]" hits three walks and never let the facts get in the way of -- so so you don't know well on the first let's think -- he faced 29 batters eighteen of the two point nine batters get a first pitch strike whether it was a a striker. Or contact he threw a 61 strikes. I 99 pitches on the night which is what you're looking -- with him is that going to struggle Terry to get him there."

[2:05]" What's been consistent at times. It -- to call it seemed. You know. In -- notable for five stickers like -- when he gets an adult so dual cup Britain have -- Three walks -- bases are loaded and enter one Italy powerful slow trolley. Which on carpet it shouldn't happen because it was stopped and to his credit hasn't happened a lot of guys. He's walked Tyrell few times because his -- Put his I was eleven -- Thirty till we picked apart seaweed America's problem defending. It picked apart so much. But the results but pretty good."

[2:42]" Here's what I wondered Terry if it's that part of it is is still. A Japan thing in other words. In Japan he goes what once a week. And the pitch count thing is different there it's treated differently there he's brought up differently than -- excel in Japan is he allowed to walk guys he allowed to have a hundred. Pitches plus. In the six or something because he can go longer because he's not pitching for another week all of those things and so is he still. In addition to have a certain approach and does not exactly always fit over your right."

[3:08]" Well I'm not sure I quite agree with your assessment a picnic part of -- be right but not entirely giving. I think it Japan I think there are things some some things to recognize that you'll get the plate. Problem -- for him there. Well the past street anything it's in correct. You post our pitchers get their reputation. I don't we rolled our interest in the games one that was apart by Japanese apart a little wider strikes shall. Different field -- other things to think about than just the ones -- obvious things. You come over here your establish yourself even though -- a reputation just do establish there's ultimately. And it takes a while to to gain a reputation as you're gonna commit the strike zone and it'll get on pars or or human their normal just like everybody else."

[3:55]" Okajima last night human rights Papelbon tonight before what have you noticed or maybe John Farrell. Has noticed with Okajima is is he a different guy over these last few weeks is he doing anything differently. Trying to get back to what we all saw last year."

[4:10]" Bush tried hard to do at the finish on the outs -- And can you gotta Lawler and accused or he was thrown in -- to get there some problem but the risk reward him and got that fixed but. And finished those pitches a lot and you interrupting I can orchestrate changeup. You certainly was able to its original problem but it didn't. Now that downward finish that give somebody hitters fits. Wear -- he's worked on that we're seeing more and more. Again you'd get -- and it's not exactly the kind of play around would you. So we walk a fine line there but just trust him on a roll his ruling what we're striving to do wouldn't do that and make everybody got the better."

[4:53]" So that decision the other night Terry to go to -- about a five outs left let let the lot of people back here saying. Okay he's reluctant to use his eighth inning guys who doesn't trust his eighth inning guys how you respond when people say that."

[5:05]" I didn't know -- of that. I don't I don't bowl -- have a good response from that that's not true there was that we try to lineup or pitching every day. And our contention that position to win that night in -- forward. Pap hadn't been tested for tonight's the last thing we want do -- leave perhaps about the bullpen. Try to -- receive situation -- the game was on the line. Whip their most dangerous hitters come up to hear that so that's what we used to. Last night different it was basically. Almost the same hitters except that they have inserted. It observers which that are in the middle order. So except -- backed up want to we're able to go to Oki was a little bit more competent rather than his ultra."

[5:51]" Mister Francona Giants on the dale and Holley program Eric freedom Mike Felger. Filling in Terry how strongly have you considered moving Jacoby Ellsbury out of the leadoff role have you considered it."

[6:02]" Parked -- sort of loss brings. Title although I think it's right to me what you move somebody out somebody goes them. And when somebody goes amenable to somebody you to get another part of the lineup. And to get away there. You know it's it's just I don't know that we would -- better wind up by -- while we do you do -- birdies. And last couple my it is these spotted a few times -- missed some things happen. That's what our lineup is that its best is what he's some base. We get our one goal attempts and and David come back at a couple days so we're going to have some things affect about come Friday anyway. Sold like to conduct -- kind of status Kohl told them and then chemistry don't feel."

[6:48]" Following up on -- very Terry I mean is there. I know you're concerned about every guy on your roster but for Ellsbury specifically the the role he plays that speed element covering so much ground in the outfield playing multiple outfield positions. And he's still a rookie I mean it -- is their own way just with the schedule the way it is trying to build him in some of that rest is that something that you need to do for hammered. Is he a different kind of guy that you you know you you can get out there every day we don't have to worry about that."

[7:14]" All I hope I think we've Buick as everyday player analyst as an impact player. Did you remember back of the bridge inning is ridiculous Travis lore bullet now. Signaled the hospital just Cooperstown -- lawful. And and that's the way our count as you gotta get there except that. Also young players go through tough times and and just this was a good lick and they scouts in the when -- when you have a weakness and exploited or at least they try to. Now it's his turn to try to Beckett just what is on the watched the good news from always citizen he's he'll still make adjustments -- runs too well. Is an eye coordination instrument those. He's going to be -- it just to get has been a tough tough period form because of that it's kind of been a doctor Ross."

[7:57]" Has shaken him a little bit now I know reflected on base well at all but he still out running his on base a little bit. And the and the stolen base attempts haven't been there and then last night Terry I just thought it odd that -- if I'm wrong deed but. For bases twice thrower tried doing got on the first time the second time. He tried again that that that next at bat. Can look at that say -- he's just sort of scuffling with some things that confidence wise mentally."

[8:22]" Well like almost idiotic I discreet so much -- how to say it. But I'd. I don't understand why you want who wouldn't want him to abuse likes. Especially when he's not get a lot of hits and used on on the ground. That hasn't been reluctant to."

[8:37]" Welcome in my world let -- put a witness for two and two and a half hours things there's advice I."

[8:41]" Understand I'm not much or go that got to try to maybe the -- to -- it. He -- a bunt down and actually about. Then the next time related down and they -- a bang bang play in these guys to build -- expecting to commitment to what. Besides -- look -- that -- out. Don't want him to use his legs and use the whole field. It was going to happen now as you -- that Beltre can be played about ten feet away from them it will slap all right Barbara bubble. Diminished confidence picks up and and it'll lose a lot of human nature to build on here and it'll loosen up and he'll be better."

[9:15]" I am wrong so often during interviews my advice to have a whole pen and paper and just jot things down so you don't -- you know 'cause I it's all rapid fire you Michael back to be sure corrective."

[9:24]" Going to be careful but Michael repertoire people should remember what -- and hopefully -- moral."

[9:29]" There's nothing being recorded and -- doubt about that. I imagine Ortiz coming back on -- everything is he going to be in Portland tonight I know he decided not to take swings -- on Sunday but is he going to be in Portland tonight and be able to join you guys on Friday."

[9:42]" Got up at that the open again you know -- doesn't seem to be everything given away. Yeah we're excited -- what we're trying to -- but walked back will regroup. Cultural meet tomorrow and check David but I think everything to go."

[9:57]" And I know you like to have to make the lineup out you know a few days in advance the let guys know if they're going to be in or out but is it really -- outside of 34 in the lineup is it is a kind of of their the situation where there's a lot of moving parts even going into Friday -- you have a pretty firm idea of what I wanted."

[10:15]" You know what we don't make a lineup but advance we try to do is is just have an idea from who should be playing in advance and even that is is a little -- just. Just trying to beat. It'll aware of maybe days were certain people should play. The lineup can always -- flexible but my point was what David told back obviously real big guy organ of -- right building or. -- that that give -- your ability. To move. To a little bit deeper and our lineup and get on top state it was a chance to babies out okay work that we -- better now we have David Hawpe and we make this lineup better."

[10:55]" You know out -- averages in the past -- never worried about Manny Ramirez being able to break out of whether he slumps or some of his off field things that seem to crop up from time to time but I think this case. Is pretty dramatic where you have that rough road trip or has the off field thing with McCormick and he has -- bat in New York which generated such -- publicity. Since studies."

[11:15]" Yeah that the one -- Whether whether we will -- affordable closer not. That's just that wasn't people are club while things -- felt real dull moment it felt optional I would pay much attention."

[11:28]" What about how to feel but at bat. Well. Two strikes you don't want to -- being a little more aggressive with a two strike."

[11:35]" Michael -- you're you're you're you're not make -- critical pivotal hole about psychological kind of what is -- to do. He faced in the table four and encirclement approaches to a difference of style they -- and -- on the mound. Because you know they're the -- whole infield and how they're either going to attack him or not attacked. Sure that -- visit outfielder to pitch around him and also people strict it is quite in the same spot. If any didn't think he could edit it and pointed we receive up for. It's part of what makes Beltran we always you want to guy -- going to -- that's what -- up there. But for people to -- that I don't think so unbelievably unprofessional. But -- hard they have not talked field."

[12:16]" Well as an -- talked about people who said that he was intensely doing that as a response to the organization Nolan said that here. On this show but there are a lot of fans and a lot of media look at data bats as just a plain bad at bats of the --"

[12:30]" We're -- get it. You're not going to have a thousand straight up battle specialist when Mario Guerrero going to be better alternate."

[12:37]" While that being said since that incident or since that week he's come back -- he held it again it's just another example where. Manny has his ability to need to go back to -- a great hitter after all these all flare ups happen."

[12:50]" Well but all good hitters do that that's part of -- you don't go from day one to get a -- to 300 on the street even wanted that number also. Dustin Pedroia. Went from 330 twos sixty -- reporting that. Has it's as cold as good hitters yet. They get just as hot -- seek their level globally while works. -- how. You could put it a bottle. -- feel you could make a lot of money but hitters that it never failed they go through periods -- pitchers direct pitches to run through some bad luck. You don't it will which you normally would. In all of sudden something happens and hurdles he'll awaken the tumble to."

[13:30]" One more thing on Manning helped close the book after this I it's my feeling Terry that with the contract hanging over his head that that's a good thing for you that. As much as man has done that in his career bounced back -- and still produce that. Having that carried out there is a good thing for me it gives them a little extra incentive to come back after a bad week like -- and still hit because of you doesn't it not getting paid it's. A -- on that."

[13:51]" Law I don't know -- I don't know did you guys have probably -- more have more time. To have more opinions that I do. He's been a good hitter for a long time. And total contract for a long tussle tonight I had given up much thought did you guys have time to -- talk defendant. In all I don't begrudge that but I don't sit around -- about that 2000. It does have a -- what -- the team to -- for too long time."

[14:17]" Back to pitching analyst Michael says more about man. Clay Buchholz. You know you don't want to pass judgment on -- starts after he spent so much time of the -- it and I don't think it's fair to do that but are there some things you have seen here I mean I -- giving up five runs in the first inning in each game it. It seems I don't know if there's the aggressiveness that's lacking or just what it is but. And what have you seen here in just two starts and what are you expecting from him today."

[14:47]" All we're trying to do I don't first game we talked while being ruled jumpy jittery. And even a little bit the second game or -- try to do is give into the flow of the game a little bit quicker and that helped with a lot of pitchers. It'll just about -- about -- a class they'll need to get -- earlier -- It up to a lot of pitchers we've got to figure out how to give him it took a feeling of being in the middle table -- what bridges. Right away in the first and whether that's maybe altering this is normal people bet we could certainly tried to do that. You don't want to tinker was -- too much what got to get ready for the start -- aware of its ultimate spot about. Because once he gets into that -- almost pitches it's it's pretty good it is we gotta get there from the first inning on."

[15:34]" It so it is it more an approach thing in a mental thing and not related to I know news -- if they talked about you know working on his arm slots it's improved fastball command it's not necessarily mechanical thing but just. Morgan approach thing."

[15:48]" I don't think it's mechanical you know he's still young pitcher pain and there are some things that he's finishing. Tampa -- usually global that we keep an -- on. But I think it's more. -- approach where he feels like he can go yet any pitch he needs. You don't want -- second third fourth inning I think he feels like that also uses Dorsey in the sport in -- changeup. Well look for all the walks helped the left hand hitter -- the right there. But early on -- you more hope it'll. Torque fastball field district want power couple short ball one. And and not that field yet of my control what pitches and that's that's part of maturing as a pitcher."

[16:29]" I watch opinion on something across Major League Baseball something so that's affected you but it's it's a league thing not a -- thing. And that is winning on the road as they just did a quick walk only three teams in Major League Baseball had a winning record above 500. On the road why do you think that is."

[16:44]" Bought an -- so many times -- world object or tired or the perfect poster child for. And so much at home and we've lost so much on the road. It'll be only saving grace and all that -- more home that we lost on the road because. It's been troubling for us always -- on."

[17:04]" Is our common -- across the league is anything you can point."

[17:07]" Try to look huddle moments all -- good -- The ball patterns on the road. You get stuck where -- teams now. And I are accusing -- the number rubber back years ago the closer holy percent safe situation. And you know I was who would be go whatever they always pitched it to save situation -- not teams at home. Are realizing that. Hey you know what shall also tiger closer your best pitcher you get a little tight games. In close games in -- we -- up what more anybody told you you certainly have an advantage at home. You get on the road as much as you want to use your closer. What near negate -- your veterinary and tied it's about impossible you're going to school liberal open. So I think that's part of it but the numbers or certainly due to a point where it seems. Like that can't just -- answer."

[17:59]" And you don't want to put it all on one player but if you look at offensively I mean even these last two nights you you were unable to really stretch it out you got good work available talent Papelbon and Okajima but you get Ortiz back in the lineup and that's it just seems with a lot of your road losses. The correct me if I'm wrong -- just been missing that one big hit to try to add to try to keep a -- a lot of guys left on base and -- him again it's Ortiz could come on Ortiz."

[18:22]" You know what we've we've actually the numbers are are very adult it's misleading but they're confusing. We we lead the league get on base percentage on the road which if you told me that I'm -- who doesn't feel like. We haven't hit a lot of reverse score position. Sometimes you -- two out hits. Sometimes you need a three run home run that's you know that's. We've talked what that the past would be in Manny -- navigate and to -- through those two. They've -- people so much in the past. And it allowed four picked on by what we haven't had the best situationally and come away you'll feel good bought or sold to somebody to order of six."

[19:02]" Are you surprised now that you know -- if everything goes well tonight with Ortiz and he gets back with the Friday at Fenway Park. Are are you surprised at all at how -- the team has been able to keep its position where it is and and be competitive with Al. Someone of his impacting your lineup."

[19:21]" I thought we did you know rock solid -- play the game he'll do we have the can't play a little bit differently. You know what's -- what's is that his role went to our other team to play it -- how were viewed. You know we we we we were hanging in there I don't think anybody thinks that we you know played our best baseball. But successful what's done is determined on other rust -- exploit temple very. Is somebody to be reckoned with -- we all -- New York would get hot. It's a tough division and then you -- lopsided divisions -- good doesn't. Seem to be a lot of places repeat it'll help you know richest in the police pretty good -- The good news visit were up to what people bought under particular -- of what want to try to do better in this late in men make a run because -- be difficult."

[20:07]" It was a quick line up updates for this afternoon to --"

[20:11]" actually not there yet you guys. For such. Building programs breakfast sort of under which sort of threw out priorities -- The guys -- really quick turnaround sort advocates just -- sort of backed abolish substitute because -- we -- Spend -- Saturday on the field during the game but not before the game."

[20:32]" Anyway Papelbon available we've talked to on this morning --"

[20:35]" I don't doubt that he would be available it is where they're out tomorrow. I'm always gauge where you it is physically. But there hasn't been a lot of pitches -- people to they give after night game I wouldn't be surprised he's built."

[20:50]" I'll go to the Red Sox second guessed -- by -- by Mohegan -- a world at play Terry today's question comes from Tim Crowley in West Bridgewater. His quest refers to this past Saturday's game against the Angels when -- Lowry came up with the bases loaded. Tim says out expecting John Kasay to pinch hit at the time why did you go with -- over k's in that situation."