[0:00]" Fourth and final hour Dennis and Callahan Ted Johnson former patriot linebacker is in studio with us taking your phone calls now it's 6177790850 toll free 888525 theory 50."

[0:11]" Guy we wanted to ask you about before we get to recalls it it was this Dan Morgan Colorado guy plated having enough in Keller Carolina guy he played against. Guy who plays like you played it is headfirst. Stud he said a number of concussions I think he's been warned that they've -- a little easier now now he's got money he's got these but no Super Bowl he's played well for a number years. He wants to come back here and he's being told by people you know you're crazy coming back anyway."

[0:44]" It's you know what is the culture there's guys that is -- let it go you know I mean they just the thought of you know what lies after is is is terrifying for guys -- only just. You know it's another million dollars I mean I know it sounds you know people. Just think you know the money we're all spoiled yadda yadda -- You know like guys you know. That that money you know helps the long run because like guys they don't know what to do when they're done I mean you're 30 -- 30 tired at 33 years. Retired so weird things a retired from my first career now -- going in my second career. And you know what guys we. As athletes we want. To be considered you know really gladiators immortal we can just do anything we are invincible and -- Semifinal later did you know it it talked you know an active player about the stuff -- is is is a joke. And what they're not the other it is into one years it out the other an NFL's senior rep for three terms of and I come back on talking about benefits and trying to extend our health insurance. And they don't care sake. How much that -- how much as is our -- MB or -- Columbia that's public."

[2:02]" At the -- told funny story about ten explaining employs about 41 K. And a if you contribute. The company contributes it's free money in August and they said -- on my agent. And it's has other ideas other plans remain so that next thousand dollars -- nextel has show up -- new rims on the escalator and you go. Could you put that money into the for a one day it's that. It's that happens what ecology would have -- and Morgan called you instead of them -- would yes absolutely Witasick flat out just. Stop points up."

[2:34]" I would tell them about my situation and and yes ultimately ultimately make is Susan but I would sound when I've gone -- back to the phone calls we go John's seven Framingham John your next with a --"

[2:47]" A guy I don't -- to -- it is -- this appreciate what you on the field and and and I am really -- it looked skeptical and so do the -- years knows that. It's kind of acts are. Committed get completely on board. On sympathetic one appeal because its sound like sour grapes a little bit you know I mean it's subject you know is that that Canada and it -- topic these these two consecutive concussions happened -- you. Has signed a contract in any -- that sign on bonus in in in. You know you're pretty much set for the rest elect financially and you -- told bell a check to take a hike."

[3:28]" Night not enough now now I'd I'd totally disagree with humanities. Set for life you know white guys you don't understand. I'm a football player writing grew up as a kid saying I'm would be football players psych and make a lot of money but I happen to play game. Where I was allowed to make money okay. All of you understand the you know I have four kids -- have a big mortgage. A lot of expenses. And you know the -- something it -- they always say about you know the worst fear millionaire as it wake up one day you will be a million anymore I mean. It's -- not everybody makes that kind of money. Okay not everybody does but it part of it is this is what you know this is all you know. In the -- you don't know what you're going to do back to this like. Talk took -- in the FBI okay said it is mandatory would you retire from the FBI that you go to a weeklong. Kind of seminar in and how to help you integrate yourself into the real world. I mean because so many guys leave the left the FBI in word. Suicidal -- fell apart. It it's just debtors and guys are gonna hang on as long as they can't have attorneys contacted you to had said look sued the National Football League what's your disposition yes yes -- clubs a I didn't you know Lloyd is that is that I've been approached about that's kinda. And a market economy and on -- you know it's it's it's. You know do do I have -- you know stronger and that is against you know guys listened. Policy resentments like drinking poison and wait for the other person to die I mean it just doesn't help me move on my life alone so. I -- a lot -- a lot of football just the you know just for my -- there are you know saying the sour grapes. I'm so blessed I came from a the most screwed up home grown up football is my family I held on tight to a I got a lot of great things from it in I would traded in for anything so I mean I got nothing but praise in angry memories from --"

[5:39]" Hello it was quarter you look look at them and let -- know up. A part of part of asserted -- to -- well why -- politics lock up into a lot of former al NFL player. On visitors to being that I want what we're Britain -- quick but before that -- to think that you you'll brought up. Got up by really intrigue about these storied that it wind. Besides the fact about you know the man who -- situation period also transitioning. For NFL players the lead that the league ball found it more because a lot of formidable group got talked to but I know. Bit bit -- they don't know Purdue net you know I want to -- told me that normally like football 88 and not have been a lot of people listening globally you know we eat you you've made exert more money you could -- But when you and that position you content to circle. Regularly it'd biggest people -- it is need to -- the people up it will make you know we're all waiting you lucky dog and I like -- any other sports. Export Gerrard entertainers in these cars will be you know you're just circle -- different stole. You know it's all relative to brought to the people you're with now I look up what napalm. Well month -- couple of people he left and a diplomat involved -- issues -- were have a -- conversation. And I accidental what is the hardest hitter an NFL and easyjet. My question if you -- that -- that make you feel now."

[7:07]" Great machine you know like his are all taken back you know ought to take that is a very high compliment. You know and that's the reason I feel like I can't come forward this and hold my head up pie is because. I don't think I was ever considered you know a guy that you know avoiding contact so well so you know it so I honestly take. The that makes you proud when I was I appreciate sin and talent will appreciate you know insane it's just at the time. I was playing ball and I liked being considered one of the toughest guys in the league."

[7:43]" Well what what what really -- he couple wouldn't product I. Not -- what. We're very much written word probably when you when you play was called because he could actually the only way every word -- them. We went -- and I guess how we don't I'm glad that they didn't change -- home it's got it wouldn't change anything I I guess so we'll go to what utility home. He is what their mortgage on it and we try to topple all money in any talk about being in that circle. -- you could you just tell your story and hopefully he would end what do you think Eric broken due to make somewhat understand that being LB important -- no -- saving you money moving out that that money if you don't tribute to think critically think the transition out. They about health and medical situation to get to -- a -- at -- the other players who have come back even other injuries. That the -- on their their future I don't."

[8:40]" But that's different they don't get alzheimer's from the from the -- easy and but here for you get to. Flattered I think Everett has a lot of imaginary friends got an audience which he has he's friends with Dorsey levens and that's gotta be the highest compliment you can -- it is best hitter in the best league in."

[8:59]" Put Emmett Smith said -- that it's I was and his top five of his play you know I mean that who carried out an -- hold it Emmitt Smith the all timely russert so I was one of the toughest top five guys your players annoyed at the end of the day guys. You can have all the you think you know blood with the bullets he made more money than you know anybody I've ever seen in this time period. But he still being haunted right now and at the in a date you really want to leave a legacy and that's really important to us is that we are considered you know great players who -- leave. Did you hit the hardest was -- perfect fit in your career without all the stuff that happened to you yeah -- I asked -- to at this and he said Kenny O'Brien and it's at a you know. It's because you read that some people the pro bowl that the year and they said on that particular play he remembered it he said they brought Kenny O'Brien the sideline and they were asking him to call some plays an extra calling placements high school play ball which which was kind of like a funny story before we learned about -- do exert pressure mostly on the finger. Was there are forgetting your career a -- it. You know what probably degraded for me was against Bettis you decent but is English there is an it there is they DC to an intro. Into a segment and it was always me hitting Bettis in the we played in the playoff game where we lost 77 nothing that it is in 98 or 97 remember -- Anyway where he kind of turned and did see me and I hit him raddatz in. There is my best hit well RC is it was a jets game in 96 the second time we played them at home. They did they did a yet toss sweep car pools around a block me he goes down a -- me I jump over him it hit the guy -- back -- and you know. -- ago were held that Colombia because I'm not an athlete I've -- a middle linebacker."

[10:53]" You know you have and -- you have struck with a lot of issues which have a better member it and you know does crime what do you forget you forget you know it's just. People you know like mama mama I'm involved in my kids' school I coached my son's basketball team. You know people come up to me in you know act as if I should remembered and I may be that of one. You know there's people -- rounds of golf with in a charity event. I can't remember who the and expect that does nothing to do concussions. You can catch all the time you know -- and it's and it's sort of our fault. I mean you'd think you'd be able to remember somebody you can afford a half hours on a golf question which you do a lot though and I do a lot they -- Trevor it's it's not the bill by the but one course that again I'll say whatever raising your favorite though. You don't remember media -- eight that just some really exactly and we met here and that's a thought that -- and them being an -- Johnson."

[11:58]" Actually do and you know. I'd say first well artists say I loved watching you play you know -- one outside thank all new England's favorite players in a lot you while your appliance I actually Pataki guys about kind of what the patriots organization is going to try to prevent guess I don't a they were equipped with a dentist thing in not -- actually -- but then. And I wanted to call out what I died it was Jerry from Taiwan talking about you'd sports and other can provoking questions that -- well actually read an article prior about a year ago in the ledger. Whether it's aimed -- to work with the -- very idol ball team they had had. Number concussions with a lot of players very high he -- great -- to passions."

[12:44]" We get Chris Liwienski on a few days ago when he says it's all nonsense is no small guy obviously some I can prevent -- with all due respect that I I've noted densities eased its preferred to discuss general Marvin Hagler and yeah exactly exactly and we I got all my concussions where in -- It's speeds and I hate to say that yet. But there is -- very few with a little Ortiz straight Justin doesn't keep your brain straight -- it did -- his -- you know what I save -- the call the you know lawyers can hear me -- bits of that because the game here aren't you know understand what's right. That's now bought -- robot Bobby that's --"

[13:24]" I don't -- getting it -- you are met the other man outplayed actually defines you from may I mean outs we lost me comes out today pocket people. I'm my question is. Did you feel it to -- out in the top top flight -- not particularly Cuban had any type of depression for the action."

[13:43]" Great question that's a great question and the Mets that is hard to to say okay you know is a piece of its concussions a piece of it probably is. You know coming from a dramatic kind of abusive home is sometimes people are predispose predispose to so I can't tell you how you know what's plays more role -- it. But you know that definitely plays a factor army football players or compromising period backgrounds now. I mean you got a -- you know guys play angry -- angry that anger came from somewhere once you lose anger. I'm looking for an autograph Roy since that you pay Roy."

[14:22]" Hey I don't think -- much for. Being we love and -- come forward. A lot of old boy you look complement Don I hated you everything we give solid -- every time we played joke. I used to pick -- up -- every time."

[14:38]" That's awesome thank you an explosion happened and."

[14:43]" I'd -- one question -- broke the union the players -- union and I know that the baseball union and and about well you know outlook looked more popular than football union. But -- do something in regards to him. Helping their players helping their their members."

[14:58]" taxed gene Upshaw and in the big meeting we had point point about -- sun for retired guys benefits I was always goes. Had they don't give a crap about achieve when you don't play football but it also showed me he doesn't really give a crap. About you when -- down played football I mean that's shouldn't you should just save. Okay that's it and I guess we're back in a fight them on and the union obviously I'm disappointed because they do not and you they just do not do enough now. Here's the thing is there's a eat at the palace money we get 63% -- DE GR of revenues okay. You get the so much in benefits. It yet so -- years there now. Okay the money's got to come from somewhere if you want to do more benefits are. You know do more programs you take that money out of the salaries to put an Internet now -- so that's the 20 year old kid. Who -- is you know pent up ride in. What's that you know have all the money he can have you don't care about four -- one case. Here -- care about it duty players he has hair back that's you told us some stunning statistics at the break guys when they retire and a half an adjustment is. Almost all of them and the divorce case. I mean it really says the line it's. If people are interested there's agree the website called game over dot org and that's the next. Players that runs its website. But in I don't know on -- I don't know where he -- the data so but the data he has provided. Forests on that website is 75% of the guys are divorced within one year after retiring. In the 75% of the guys are completely broke after three years of retirement. That's insane to me. Yet that is used you know it and care about the for a one -- owe it to the -- I of those friends I investment of the -- you gotta stick here but just for the -- in era -- mean -- flash because -- them for I want to hear. Coach pitcher album we talk about crazy people in charge of young lives in football. We got a good example Johnson's gonna stick around for -- April's sports much"