[0:00]" I joining us live -- the -- NFL east side apartment FL dot com NFL network economy yesterday and he has been in the long our bloody victory which if that. You play the ball pretty well appear in -- you know a lot of stuff going on here but it. They -- You know we were wondering what we're going to wake up on his -- but it's it's pretty good. -- in your opinion is this what people are are are saying maybe the greatest regular season. Football game in the history of the NFL."

[0:32]" All right -- you talk about the overtime win by the current left I'm."

[0:35]" Let's try to keep the sabres I forgot about it."

[0:38]" I can't you've got all -- now and then to get this topic on that now -- It's the -- in an altered those guys and I've tried I've I've I've done my research FBI whatever record figure out my own mind and it it keeps coming back to. Are there has never been. For for several reasons a larger. Regular season game in the history of the league and I didn't suggest that their ball undefeated. And it isn't just that they have this history of having looked up already in the post season and it champ if you championship games if it has a lot to do with two whip with. Very -- I think one basic element. There is no -- there are no other set fatigue -- two teams in this league. Beckett looked to each other as measuring stick of overall lead greatness but just divisional not just conference but league. -- the way these two teams are able to do right now."

[1:33]" None on not just now the Buick over the last few years"

[1:36]" overkill but but it hasn't been more prevalent -- now I mean because yeah -- little to -- just like with -- you. I just don't think you can if the rivalry did not try to -- you you've not seen anything."

[1:49]" Like this this year primarily because with pitchers are doing is unprecedented over over eight weeks and the colts as defending superbowl champs. I think seven game streak of their own are doing what -- champion we all presumed does but normally doesn't do it."

[2:06]" I have happy elevate that -- happy elevate it right now the colts because. In -- think about them last year they respect lets -- they actually won it so well people question because. How we're talking as a what -- I want to talk about one year of of greatness now that the Coetzer are nowhere at all but the favorite in behind the whole time yeah yeah hot but well because it kittens."

[2:28]" Yeah actually -- that the truth there's the colts have sustained. You know not regular season success I think that's what you're probably distinguishing here -- but there are various -- for a winning percentage. That you look at statistically. Dungy Manning and then telecheck Brady if you if you put those two together. You know what if it's 1221 right across the board I mean their effect bengie. Dungy Manning over the body work of the regular season actually ever -- a higher winning percentage than Brady in ballots."

[2:58]" There's so many things. I think that are at stake in this game you talk about hold the home field advantage for the play Oscars it's hard to believe that either one of these themes. Are going to give any of that -- here in the next seven weeks you talk about maybe this title. Of greatest team ever patriots lose this game. It's a lot more difficult to put him in that that would that title PLO will 50 don't want in the -- well yeah but I the other one particular start last night on on the NFL network. Who's the best meaning. Or Brady does this not in -- become -- another barometer all of which one of these guys are the best at least for now."

[3:37]" Well and I -- this -- front -- about how I think the challenge in and separating the two of them now it is greater than it ever was because you can't. Apply the that the conventional thought -- been their before this season in the conventional spot work. That Brady was just the guy who won everything had all the hardware and Manny with the guy who had all the great numbers and but you know right now and we thought we'd see. The difference -- that for those who would always say okay just give -- some receivers like -- has -- all be different and it's and it's not only different. He's taken at another level and what I think we have between the two of them is in Brady. First operating long term body of work is going to be great whenever he does retire from the game. He's going to take with him some wonderful statistics accomplishments all the all he's -- you know he's already got the the the ticket on for can't. Manny who also has a ticket on the -- It in terms of comparative seasons. Brady's going to going to do some career single season record breaking this year this current -- Many at his current pace while not a -- level is pushing himself further to locking up probably all the career passing numbers just because. Is when your body of work with numbers it is going to be better so that the evidence date you'll look at it to the hall of famers who now. Have to be just I think I don't want to use the term one and one day -- one -- I'd."

[5:05]" It's Brady -- many -- But mix you know what what what this is it's the big -- people law of you know the -- the blocks what the big punch at home run hit. This team both teams have -- receivers they have excellent coaches they've proven it to beat up on people they have the undefeated record but all that what this makes. Why it's such a -- you know. The bag to that is because each team has the best player in football one and two. Wanted to whatever it is best to boys of football Brady and -- and the ability to school people -- offense this is what the end of the -- offense offense offense the difference is though. Patriots have deepened the magnitude of this game -- brought to high level 'cause of the visible players in the ability of the points in the."

[5:52]" You're right and that and that again that's why this. I when you go back through the years and try to chart regular season games that have been enormous that involved. That the familiar past champions of the 40 -- era of the -- era of the of the greater era of this of the yet pulpit -- of the cowboy era -- 70s and -- in and go back to the 60s with the Packers you you you won't find games and I and that is what I would say when I did some research I can't. Find guys anything that that when you reported on Friday -- all the things that Fred just let it. Don't call -- you don't you don't really year old. To the degree that you do now not just because it's happening today -- expression our minds but but that that the the that the judge -- the of this whole thing."

[6:38]" What they do that's -- I have a video broadcast word in the -- that's -- Italian. I'm -- now happily out."

[6:47]" It's head and that the debt mixing -- what they got what they're able to what we what we have all might have its expectations which are always. Greater than probably what it would actually happen to the -- would -- be -- would be I'm hoping for a good game but in my heart apart just based on what I know today I've not really expecting what I think I'm expecting this patriots think. To be picked to continue I'd and I would not give the bigoted but is there any other team that we can look at the -- they had a chance to stop them and and that's what we got that's what makes."

[7:18]" I'm an agreement with you I I think a lot of people are talking about this is a great game this weekend and I agree with you -- this can be great game I think this. Of one team is much better. Then the other team right now I'm not typical Tom terrific team but let's get to the defense of this team because people are citing a lack outright or -- that this is they better as a team. And what we have seen in the last few years certainly -- the regular season last year with -- colts they replaced nick harper. And they replace Jason David neighboring and it may bring in Marlins well Jackson was their that they moved marlin Jackson. Right to a starting role and other becoming physical if you watch him every week there banging receivers let's. Florida not -- gap and that more -- one gap -- back I have to was staffs -- and that smile that they didn't have the horsepower brought to to open which leaves a lot of things open but don't have a ticket as that how this point -- Can they get away with being physical with these receivers. Receivers by the way that we know. Can spend lose your very quickly in a quarterback they can find those guys instantly -- get away with that"

[8:24]" could -- debt that's going to be a challenge because you're you're just that it that these are these are not receivers who were given. Tibet type of power or -- whip which struggle with that had the coverage and throw another factor there is. Don't -- there are going to be some people around. Almost yellow flag ready to column if indeed. That contact goes. Beyond a five yard and the frustration whether -- go to the good receivers it's usually in that context we try to get physical with slippery receivers -- well."

[8:55]" Also rule the rule that belt pulley Tucker back in my size again is going to read it might come back we're going to have his way."

[9:01]" Could could indeed and and still is very aware of that and I I I spoke with him extensively about it you know the perception is this was all done. To take care to eliminate what the patriots could do forever and that's not the case that I said that I'm bill. You know better and I do your team changes virtually by the year in your defense is far from what you're going to happen in this was how many years ago missed the three years up. I think you repeat that is far from the way it's going to look at three years. And and or four years and he says it could execute better bureau if you guys are going to have however winning a super ball and his response was. I know this could and cup but as much as any other team but I think it's necessary and it's not just because of the patriot. Their other team."

[9:45]" Com -- always patriots -- it was all about the papers with a plate they had physical corner as if what -- They did that last year they did the exact same thing which you watch a game last Indianapolis came up and GM was physical those receivers would let them off was holding him. Tried to that was Randy moss stepped on the block in the face what they did last year in the going to have to break at five via rule get a physical if the --"

[10:08]" I -- to -- or oh I don't it. -- that pace to hit don't get that's going right now they're the man you do it all maxi girdle around take pride. Try to figure out why he's so nice -- well wild what why is it the media -- Third the oh -- guys like roddick."

[10:32]" You know aside I think it has everything to do with that the coaches and look at the two coaches and you tell me who isn't going to really small line for different reasons. Because bill -- We know or -- everybody knows what that's about what what you -- program he's put in place and I'll and I'll compliant everybody -- with that. Tony -- for different reasons. Has basically the same level corporation we -- this week and he was talking about I coached once except. And Keyshawn Johnson I know you can't call what people say but he goes this particular team that I have now. Basically get that and and he's that I don't expect. Players -- to just say the things that I don't want to say to make this thing work and throw the."

[11:16]" Always went away lately -- what do you mean what do you leave make it worse. What you need to make towards our our our company -- out."

[11:28]" Toward -- so I think -- my perception of the patriots is if a gigantic. Why and when the patriot local over back and you want to stick a stick at its base and then make that matter."

[11:40]" But you know -- that -- you don't want him in the audience if you got that that both Brett and max are too professional athletes may play popular in a different era. And they were both yapping is as you know with the -- max I was around him has maximum wage was."

[11:57]" yeah. Fred yet been over to a 14."

[12:01]" Okay north Dallas that I forgot a while I'm actually you know we haven't done at 78 team because they saw against him. And I sabres would know what rock clothes but it's but tickets to different -- not want to we brought us a topic -- last -- I'm wondering if part of it is it if you say anything to anybody these days. It's suddenly shows up on the Internet instantaneous media coverage right now and it's -- everybody."

[12:23]" Cool cool man -- larger than let's edit oh yeah always having eyes opened up those guys over there then my -- Iron out right. I get held with a mix -- make a Big -- that would that would that's part of and I think that goes on the say well -- our online they are lion you know what does this because that was a lot of what if you got a shotgun -- a lot of cool and it."

[12:47]" Okay that's it that's what -- put enough though I think it'll pick a couple of -- not a no --"

[12:52]" back but I don't know I don't know that the Pitt could be a cold. Truly believe they have bench that Jack who died."

[13:00]" Yeah yeah yeah what you -- Clement. The world champions -- champions the young ones that you think you have got each guy and beat these you don't believe it nobody'll with the colts is that you right now I believe -- we do that we're. It's my right now my problem now they did. I don't have a hats and it's not."

[13:23]" I have agreed at their hospital level should be there with a seven Renault team and -- oppression bombarded trolls but but -- wasn't -- hologram. It's much more similar. Through the bell a check approach that you think they're going to play one quick thing. That we we talked up always earlier this lieutenant his second in command really of all things all things -- operations in and Fred knows this is enable back. He's -- naval academy guy and it if the patriots are run as a ship shape. Sort of navy militaristic operation which I think you'd agree that it -- is close to make a person as you might make. Tore the -- I thought about TV champ went Fred. That's always -- guy who wished and and believe me the visit from the president force within that organization."

[14:13]" Obviously the win is right because we're talk about the new era because feel it was supposedly a marine at -- yeah and ran a ship that was straight but GM talk but you have a budget Kooks who were -- and we care about. What the other team. -- just makes me sick but you know what are what -- there. I think in Atlanta now you accuse them about those guys."

[14:36]" But national basket if it's is that what you play it's already games well over the course of the year. That creek that really have an effect as -- a basketball more about. Sequences or series of games camp football homeland as a single game as a bigger game than a basketball but it could get support"

[14:54]" that's what you get the post season we USA you policies and -- that the post season. The trick at. You can hit it in football or -- stretch you could -- In the seven game series you treat the team do you out you out work them you will get -- or -- you all I guess you -- that you know what went on the kick your butt in -- I think there's a lot of you know look at that -- you know look at I think a lot of the stuff. It's sort doesn't use up your own team. You know since so they always put that stuff to people talk it. You don't want to get the bad advocates at at all of every -- they're always elementary tomorrow but they I think coach critics if you talk trash. It might disrupt your role let me know what I'd do it might Jews are you know troops will be of more because that you call it so you've you've got to walk that walk in."

[15:47]" What they'll -- bridges got into it and and and -- the subject quickly and he talked about the -- The difference in basketball might be that the crowd is much more intimate close of the game they hear the trash talking going back and forth to the players in football -- far with the -- away you don't they're giving out there on the field you're hearing some of the stuff that's going on that. It's not nice nice goody good only running discriminate typical on the main I don't relatives --"

[16:13]" Banality personality has less room to function in an atmosphere where not only are they had covered the -- the faces and I I get quite the same it doesn't have that change -- as basketball as various words they have basketball and I I think it's covered him BA for or through a stretch and enjoy the heck out of activity six to -- I I remember. Writers getting worn by officials broadcasters for -- debate -- you know like every and one event that happened a."

[16:46]" that switchers maybe happened idiot but that has changed. You can. Paul should you be like -- like I do now or you can get a technical -- MBA is is almost to the allegory -- guys pass it is almost like you've gone about -- the next match you and I we don't don't say. I like -- that that you go out the next -- Want to be fired -- want to talk enough points you what I can't figure he would have you make the point that you -- at age limit Cuba Maxwell and with a recliner that relevant at value -- you know what you -- they don't know -- Would you kill you know what whip figure that without the equipment I think the media makes a big about the David -- because these guys -- checked while I don't pick I think. -- I almost think that is why we're gonna run to score a part of this whole idea now running to writing the score."

[17:44]" All all I just saw an and I I wrote a -- critical back how about admired the whiny I don't want to hear it anymore it's not it is not the carry period what is about is the patriots problem if if other approaching these games. Backfires someday when it -- issues on the other foot. If keeping. Operating on the field too late in the game results in in an injury that there -- worry about. The opponents job is to figure out how to stop that and shut up about it don't want to know what you worked. You're out there to stop them and if you can't sit and I and I think if we don't work to the point now where stopping the patriots back ops has become. An issue. And I think that's the real concern here but I thought it was the silliest thing in the world here. Redskins players -- about it or complain about it here they can't complain about it I get emails to the point where it's not CAD figure people pelvic. What are they going to stop ward has won this is this is bad for the league it is bad for are you kidding."

[18:44]" Regular dental problem ultimately have you heard -- war. And all your life at Columbia mean that's it now now -- other outlet -- people think we'll just yeah but they're piling on and that we can judge whether it's good about this it's just piling on them. Well in until he wants to do when you would -- like an --"

[19:04]" Back yeah what are you supposed to okay hit and this is and that's what I want you know beat al all you do guys played Freddie and and match you played. Professional sport who wanted to retire other than when your coach what you put sat -- we could talk about it what you were out there thinking. This particular play -- this particular series down the court I'm going to just treat it like it's."

[19:28]" As well or order order order that I don't know I decided I -- that I heard Arnold pre season game. -- against that it may exploit against the Philadelphia 70 sixes in which he scored 211 quarter points against Mark -- only because he caught any without colonel the next. Back and -- group and what you can."

[19:46]" And scored 42 -- about your order. At 40 or the other night and it you know what if I'm assessing new hotel we I don't know -- hold the -- not so much gardening and."

[19:58]" You know somebody's judging you not just fans or media -- people toward determining whether you're going to continue to have their contract how much you get paid. Except that you better have put everything that's on film every second that it's on film. Looks like you care because someone is watching and -- look at for a reason. To do either replace it with somebody better or whatever it that I don't think people quite get that I just want the fallacy of understanding what's going."

[20:26]" You know the mentality of of the national media about nine do but I think it's interesting that. In in you've been all of -- the last few years when their the national people at the Super Bowl. That have questioned the patriots probably do it because they don't win big. They went with a field goal a minute area you know maybe a last second but you know -- they do what it almost almost. Questioning how good they are and yet if you look over history the teams that have been judged as the great teams have been teams why guys like the 49ers didn't win 50 don't seven -- waiting back -- Exactly that late watching night he's Denver team that -- which huge gigantic scores that's what you supposed to do that I think represents greatness."

[21:08]" Right I think it comes down to definite edits in it again this is why you know people we we always like over simplify anything. Doing what this team has done and being on pace to produce more than 60600 points in -- season -- been number just Becker's if you watched even five minutes of the NFL it like that. It is not easy in -- happen -- new territory and the fact is. It's taken for granted and it's this mentality that well it's kind of like operated joystick of American football oh -- it isn't real this is real like football. It doesn't happen. When it does appreciated for something special but to -- to look at it as. You know they should be able Mike got this is -- they should be -- that take you know take it easy until he's he's always got a million. Because they're here to do what they -- you know what guys I don't know they're going to do this 2008 unity hope they may not do this isn't about that may never happen again."

[22:08]" If -- real quick before you go one quick question Marvin Harrison. Didn't practice today he's been cleared to play -- cleared to play apparently did that you play on Sunday."

[22:17]" I think he well I I can't imagine any player with a chance the the play in this game you've been."

[22:22]" The market's big pocket allotted and what the -- disputed talk because -- 2 O'Clock -- And it's not."

[22:29]" I I I I I anybody who's even marginally -- to play this game is is want him understand."

[22:35]" I'd finally using the patriots are going to want that that's that you said earlier."

[22:39]" I I until somewhat demonstrate that they can -- that that they can stop this. It's unstoppable I I got it -- would I will be in the RCA dome. And I'll look at it in a fight it would mild to wise I want to be trusted that he because they might be doctoring."

[22:56]" I'll always. I expect to exhibit no right -- measure of the Olympic routine of the NFL network in the field dot com -- the --"