[2:49] ..." I didn't. Ask you for his achievements you gave me his achievements. Kevin Youkilis has achievements to last Q why is it clear cut that he's above Youkilis."...

[3:09] ..." point. You know yes it's all well and good to say that Kevin Youkilis was. All over the leaders of the leaders list you know in the American League. But Dustin Pedroia led a -- of the leaders list. Where where Kevin Youkilis and you and I both have undying admiration for what he brings to the table -- Close and late is the clocks."...

[4:53] ..." wins is not like people are going to say how how to Kevin Youkilis when the MVP. If Pedroia wins people aren't going to say how did Dustin Pedroia all between William -- guys Yankees EUU"...

[5:53] ..." irony of pool -- Winning a couple of years after he killed Ryan Howard for winning on a team that didn't make the playoffs last is delicious and -- Ball when you have a guy in Ryan Howard who led the major leagues in home runs and RBIs. And took his team to the playoffs and it's the first time"...

[7:26] ..." Barry Bonds. He should have won more MVP. He didn't win it Terry Pendleton did. I think had to do with Barry Bonds and his personality and there's so many weird things going on with this so Ryan Howard looked at and -- would also have to do. Who knows what the voters."...

[9:25] ..." he was doing -- in the pressure cooker of playoff race when Albert Pujols was producing great numbers. There was virtually no pressure because they out of ought to -- it's totally different the what they each had to go through to get to where they ended Agassi's but it's not as if you don't know what Albert Pujols can do in pressure situations because this team has been in the -- butler's hockey he has it and he's just he's"...

[10:12] ..." the well it's funny isn't it now. Ago he didn't think that Ryan Howard should be the MVP because his team to play a bottle back -- out today he thinks he should be the MVP"...

[11:55] ..." guy has that kind of year I can make an argument and Albert Pujols was very very good didn't lead in home runs and RBIs 'cause the guy who finished second did. I can't I can't overlook the fact that it if I had a vote pujols doesn't get my vote. If I had a -- Ryan Howard gets my --"...

[14:56] ..." a playoff team. You can't what let's put it this way if Albert Pujols was not on the Cardinals this year. Where they have finished."...

[15:29] ..." MVP like -- not a in a lifetime achievement okay art when Albert Pujols was the MVP before. -- compare this season. Now. Through his season when he was the MVP. Because the only thing you're"...

[16:52] ..." appreciate excellence because. -- this day. That there are a lot of Albert Pujols I didn't sit well -- there you could you could write off the top your head name 56 or seven. He's damn good guy but they're not MVP caliber players are talking about MVP caliber players are in a very select group. And Albert Pujols does not have to apologize. For hold onto that hardware and collecting 200000. Dollar what do what a shock that is opinion"...

[0:00]" the beauty of it is. -- have two candidates. The bad part is us. Maybe they split the vote neither guy wins but the beauty of it is from a Red Sox perspective. You probably have two of the top three or four. Finishers when the MVP Award is is who is announced at 2 o'clock today. Definitely. I don't know how. How many votes they'll split. I'm an if you look at Pedroia and you look at you go with you commit to completely different things right. So I I think. I don't I don't think the only vote. No it wasn't you -- clutch was Duke. With runners in scoring position. Versus Pedroia with -- runners in scoring position and you came out way ahead. Seven. For Bradley -- in -- do this whole thing on WEEI dot com today where they kind of break it down in and like it's an interesting debate and as I said the beauty of it is you have to with the top three or four candidates. For me and look for the sake of the program I'd like to argue with you here. I've been saying for a little while now that I think Pedroia winds of at 2 o'clock today and I I heard you say it to John and Jerry you think Pedroia win."

[1:43]" Yeah uncertain health they're -- I love that but there are two questions here who I think will win and Pedroia. Who should win it between Pedroia and Youkilis I don't know I thought -- ago. I can't say. I."

[2:04]" I I you know I like both guys a lot both guys bring a lot to the table to meet this one was pretty clear cut if this is darker cut yeah it is to me. Not how how it's so clear I mean what's the one thing that jumps oddity that makes -- so clear cut will not one thing it it is it is the what the weather the fourth with lots. You know tied with the each row for the lead in. For the lead league lead in hits leading the major leagues in doubles second in the American League in batting average gold gloves silver slugger there's five run off the top of my hands so."

[2:35]" Oh wait a minute so because because he led them the league in hits. And because he tight. -- because he had a lot of doubles and not a sport US replied I don't know -- out and ask you about I didn't. Ask you for his achievements you gave me his achievements. Kevin Youkilis has achievements to last Q why is it clear cut that he's above Youkilis."

[2:58]" it's not even close from and it's why you know when I red army the Bradford spear argument on WEEI dot com. And I think it was it was a Bradford who made the point. You know yes it's all well and good to say that Kevin Youkilis was. All over the leaders of the leaders list you know in the American League. But Dustin Pedroia led a -- of the leaders list. Where where Kevin Youkilis and you and I both have undying admiration for what he brings to the table -- Close and late is the clocks. -- close and late isn't. What remains are close in in journey of favors Pedroia by -- locked."

[3:39]" Not know nor does it doesn't mean yeah I went into it we just didn't we. We're looking at these numbers earlier. This is about a month ago month and a half ago we're looking at the numbers. I think it's just the opposite I think. With with the runners in scoring position. And close and late situations out I believe it was Youkilis. Who was dominating those numbers -- not Pedroia."

[4:02]" Pedroia in close and late situations Pedroia hit 368. Youkilis hit 272. -- it is runners in scoring position while close and late which is what I'm looking that it's not clocks. He has light but it's not club will look at look at all the numbers that throughout the course and today we have until but 2 o'clock. Before we have a winner. -- Pedroia will win. Battle I don't think it is black and white and you'd. I I guess that's our only are only disagreement well at 10 -- sounds as though. The conflict that you have is that is that you think Pedroia will win the -- don't necessarily think he should win. I think I will win and should not on a lot and say that he that he shouldn't win I mean anybody in the conversation. Nobody's going to -- today. Nobody will. If if Youkilis who wins although it's A-Rod wins I think acting while he's going to gets provided -- have you -- wins is not like people are going to say how how to Kevin Youkilis when the MVP. If Pedroia wins people aren't going to say how did Dustin Pedroia all between William -- guys Yankees EUU -- article wrong. If you're talking about those two guys even guys."

[5:07]" Even if you win I guess Quinton fell off toward the end because -- a month of the cut for the history so you can't put him there. What do Ken Rosenthal vote for again. He voted for. It Justin Morneau. And that wouldn't be the biggest crime if you won the MVP today so it's not like I don't think Dustin Pedroia should win I guess my only point is. When I look at this advocates close across the board I don't think K rod should win it but you look at everybody else. I don't think one guy just jumps out and in and you said yourself there's no question this -- is the MVP of the league. Next top."

[5:48]" No it's it's kind of interest into when you look at the National League MVP which was announced yesterday first the ball the irony of pool -- Winning a couple of years after he killed Ryan Howard for winning on a team that didn't make the playoffs last is delicious and -- Ball when you have a guy in Ryan Howard who led the major leagues in home runs and RBIs. And took his team to the playoffs and it's the first time in baseball history that someone did those three things and was not the MVP."

[6:19]" Average was low I understand that. Let the Pacers and no -- and I don't eyes and just. Let's be honest about it I think this happens in a lot of sports. I think at times in baseball. If you've won at before. I think the voters and in some strange way cannot hold it against you. It it it doesn't always go to the MVP does not always go to the most deserving person. And it's not always based on. Just cold hard numbers their other strange factors. In the air and we're talking about it. A couple of last week we -- remote law and I said enemy in it and take the bait but I said to him I think you're 1996. Season. Was better than 95 MVP season. But he wins the MVP in 95 makes it as -- but yet but he wins -- in 95. Even though Albert Belle. Had a more dominate season but people -- like Albert -- so they give it to home. You know Barry Bonds as much as we is as much as we have -- Barry Bonds. He should have won more MVP. He didn't win it Terry Pendleton did. I think had to do with Barry Bonds and his personality and there's so many weird things going on with this so Ryan Howard looked at and -- would also have to do. Who knows what the voters."

[7:43]" Like I happen to agree with Albert pools. Two years ago three years. I don't agree with him now I agree with -- three years ago. And we've had this discussion in the past I don't think you can be an MVP MVP. If your team didn't make -- that's just my own personal belief you can be the most outstanding player Amelie. And -- Holtz has a very good argument for being that I don't think he can be the most valuable player for a team that finished in fourth place."

[8:13]" Yet you know what and we talk about Howard. He finished with an average to 51. And had a had a stretch. Pretty distracts. Late 352. To get it up to 215. So I. I mean I don't know if I would take that away from now he can't be the MVP because he hit 250. When he hit what 158. Runs was fifty some."

[8:37]" A 450. Some runs that. Like like I said in the history of Major League Baseball he is the first player. To lead the major leagues in those that half -- team gold of the playoffs. And not being named the MVP. I I would all respectable -- you know probably is the best. And I I take nothing away from his team finished in full. For for meet personally means you can't medium artists and that's just the way I guess guys don't buy me there's so many factors. He's an elected -- you're you're analyzing. A player for having a -- but in some cases. You're penalized in the player because he's got a bad GM. Well I'm an audio player and saying it that win win -- our -- reducing. Huge numbers he was doing -- in the pressure cooker of playoff race when Albert Pujols was producing great numbers. There was virtually no pressure because they out of ought to -- it's totally different the what they each had to go through to get to where they ended Agassi's but it's not as if you don't know what Albert Pujols can do in pressure situations because this team has been in the -- butler's hockey he has it and he's just he's he's good he's good -- about -- I mean -- a whole bunch of guys who -- but he's -- not -- and had a hole but the guys like -- and he's been like -- I said good -- pocket -- he's good he's great and he's been great his entire career. So. He's great he was great 2004. Where in the eighth when they went to the World Series in Los Red Sox and it was great and 2008 when they didn't go to the well it's funny isn't it now. Ago he didn't think that Ryan Howard should be the MVP because his team to play a bottle back -- out today he thinks he should be the MVP anything you know what I was -- back -- I'm glad he is he was like gosh I wonder -- yeah I have an agenda but he -- drop. In era and a half. I. -- I'd just -- to meet when when you when your team is in the playoffs. You've had to perform under pressure situations. Basically the entire season that's -- especially. Down distraction and it's always said that the month of September makes or breaks MVP candidacies. Carlos Quentin and not his fault he gets hurt he can't play at September about about drop off the map."

[10:59]" About Justin Morneau. David make the playoffs they went to I I don't think he can medium anyway to me. -- one game to see you got the IRL. So you're really got to stick to that -- a manner that that is that is being a little too inflexible. I mean if you say this is the way I feel about it even if if it's an extenuating circumstance even if a team that finishes tied atop the division and they need a one game to determine. Who's going to the playoffs. You say well in the team that lost them and they can't have any MVP players. That's crazy."

[11:36]" All I'm saying is that if I had a vote and I never well I can't vote for a guy. It and the one exception I've made is if some guy has some. Other worldly kind of year the kind of year that that Alex Rodriguez had kennel and when he just killed every number their wives. When a guy has that kind of year I can make an argument and Albert Pujols was very very good didn't lead in home runs and RBIs 'cause the guy who finished second did. I can't I can't overlook the fact that it if I had a vote pujols doesn't get my vote. If I had a -- Ryan Howard gets my --"

[12:13]" Well. I think. Even if you're playing and a bad team there's one thing you can't deny. Professional baseball's heart to heart sport so doubt about that so even if you are on a team that 25 games out of first place. And there are 25 out. In August or September and you're still putting up numbers. There's something to be separate that it harder and your play -- in it which says art and this is why I love guys. Who play at a high level even though they're teams have no shot because at the way I look at it. I love. Rooting for a team that's in. And -- the team is not and it I'd lose interest because what does it mean -- I love competition. Something you know we we gonna get a championship on this get a division title. So I have a lot of respect for those players. Who noted -- win a championship or even go to the playoffs in this deal Branyan. Jason Taylor despite what my favorite with Miami no shock. But still. Got a defensive player of the year Award that he deserved because he continues."

[13:26]" That's different you can beat the defensive player of the year offensive player of the year the most outstanding player in Major League Baseball Jason Taylor. Couldn't beat the most valuable player in the NFL mark on Miami has pretty much -- know it isn't not totally different if it's the it's the defensive player of the year. The player who played the best on the -- not most valuable as to meet. They're they're separate entity okay so. Do you think a defensive player of the year is is kind of like saying he's the defensive MVP of the an -- around it's totally different so. See that's the reason why I -- guy like Steve Carlton can win a cy young for an awful team because the cy young is for the best pitcher. The guy with the best numbers as a pitcher you can be on the worst team in baseball -- cy young Award winner. You can be on the worst team in baseball and beat the most outstanding player in the league that you can't be the most about."

[14:19]" time yourself up and not the title. If you think a guy. On a bad team. To be the defensive player of the year. Then. Used to things have a guy on a bad team to be the MVP what your saying. Is Jason Taylor was the best defensive player in the entire National Football League up even though his difference was not the best one in the early."

[14:43]" Yup. That's what I'm saying out while. Yeah that's what I'm saying. And and I I understand that we have a disagreement about this which like like to be honest with. I just have never felt that that if your team isn't a playoff team. You can't what let's put it this way if Albert Pujols was not on the Cardinals this year. Where they have finished."

[15:05]" They beat the Mets of 1962. My point is that finished fourth with him. What are going to finish fifth without him they beat terrible what. We're so don't -- them -- they are good with at all but you know. It's really in and you're you're basing an argument based on one season. On once a -- talked a while you cannot Cubs want to let MVP like -- not a in a lifetime achievement okay art when Albert Pujols was the MVP before. -- compare this season. Now. Through his season when he was the MVP. Because the only thing you're looking at his this year we're looking -- on your Italian. Pizza you numbers can't -- early had better numbers than the Erie won the MVP. Which got a look at in the -- it always ready I don't know him he started this out are really."

[15:57]" One. I wanna I wanna really. Have a nice. Come to Jesus meeting with the person who started this you gotta be on a playoff team to win the MVP argument. It in the history of baseball there have been several MVPs who have not been on playoff teams. There MVPs because. They're damn good that's what the Award is you're damn good and you you're playing in a league with."

[16:20]" A lot of other players were good but you're better than all of you know -- I some of them might be a better teams in your body change it to that your game go to war -- got what it swelled and you gotta argue that's exactly that's not what they call. The most valuable player because there's lots of your -- good guys out there. There's. You can you could you could name. 567. Your damn good guys in the national. -- about. You appreciate -- I. Figured that -- Really appreciate excellence because. -- this day. That there are a lot of Albert Pujols I didn't sit well -- there you could you could write off the top your head name 56 or seven. He's damn good guy but they're not MVP caliber players are talking about MVP caliber players are in a very select group. And Albert Pujols does not have to apologize. For hold onto that hardware and collecting 200000. Dollar what do what a shock that is opinion changed this year. Shots on the liability oh yeah he saw the 200000 dollar light is what he saw that's a damn expensive definitely happy with look at that."