[7:04] ..." they -- they're -- at 233. In this series. You know BJ Upton exploded and guys that you really didn't think about the for the series. Were major factors and they Willie -- bar a"...

[11:16] ..." that didn't really think about the no hitter no hitter thing. And Matt Garza is right there with them settled down right after giving up the homer -- the Pedroia."...

[11:45] ..." from -- academies -- the Sox are going to go after it Jake Peavy Alexander like oh. I don't buy I think it is paying in the -- for the New York Yankees like they always"...

[12:03] ..." well why don't you buy. While the Sox going after Jake Peavy they definitely have the the goods to bring peavy here like got that they got the resource wanted to present and Alastair. Same same situation we're not necessarily save situation I don't know Jake Peavy is going to cost you as much. As Santana. Would've cost so I mean I think that's prohibitive that money. Percent yeah."...

[12:52] ..." Okay so. If you can bring -- to keep bringing the Jake Peavy would do."...

[16:19] ..." there. Yet also picked figure out what you gonna do with catcher. Jason Varitek I would love to have Jason Varitek back here. Not at that money. Not at the money. And not and not that role on me maybe Jason Barrett to"...

[0:05]" So dramatic that dale and Holley show that day after the day after. The season is over felt it's all over you can get back to hockey. You can get back to basketball. And get back to BC football. It's over. May so many opportunities for the Red Sox. And -- it about this and I feel about it. On one hand yet it sucks that the season is over in the Red Sox lost in seven games they were it would. Make up a 31 deficit tied up at three and everyone thought that they -- going to win it in game seven so that's quite an achievement. On the other hand I feel like. There are a lot of opportunities there on the table and you've got some foreshadowing. In game six. And won game six fortitude very impressive -- start from Josh Beckett. There were a lot of runners who were not brought home and you felt like many -- the should be vehicles game. They're going to have to start picking up some of these guys and you saw last night they have many opportunities to. At least tie the game take over the game and they just couldn't deliver when it mattered most."

[1:12]" Depends I want to think about it if you want to go big pitcher -- in the grand scheme of things. It's hard to be that upset right where this knocked out I mean. I think Tampa's. You are better yes liver batter all the information says they are I mean but not dramatically better and the series could've gone either way. And there was no major at up there wasn't. You could say he's selling game to let Beckett into longer -- go to Byrd. Didn't really play out at the end of the day there was no one who I think really lit really gagged on it. This now the Patriots in the Super Bowl Mike where the Patriots lost to a team that wasn't as good as them with a Patriots did. You know the Giants should not have been on the same field the Patriots and -- it will cost you feel much worse about that sort of what -- well you -- this is out what are the rays are little better."

[2:00]" I agree with some of the things you said there an element of others have to like your championship game. Of the final game of the season you do -- the field I agree the Patriots are better than Johnson and and they beat them in the regular season and they are undefeated so of course. A they should've won the game you look at it undefeated team should win the final game of the year. But I joked that Red Sox inch I don't know which corner but but but back to the race. Yes the rays are better than the Red -- you look at the play 25 times this year. The rate 114 of those games. They had. A two game lead in the American League east. When games matter most six games at the end of the season the rays won four of those games they went up 31 and it wasn't just a 31 lead. That final game that that that game five. Everything collapsed here for the race but you look at. Games 34. And six innings of game five they dominated the Red Sox so. -- fortunate that we even were even talking about it games that. But if you look at all the information. What they hit against the Red Sox probably pictured your threats are they won close games the threats are yet they're better."

[3:10]" And what what what the rays did here in this series is what they've done all year long. They were on the verge of fallen off the clip in September a couple of times up what about the clip but but given -- up getting overtaken by the Red Sox the first place they had. They were down a run in the ninth inning here Fenway Park in the middle September Papelbon on the map out a lot on the mound to fall out of first. And they didn't die and it happened at Tampa. Boston wins game one chance to take outright first game to temple won't die so this is very much in keeping with what they've been. All --"

[3:41]" Well you said earlier that but no one really gave up -- went really. No one really was -- dog. Well felt you have to do here. Look at some of these numbers in the composite composite numbers but here. Some good numbers in some really bad. George -- where I mean I don't 450 for Coco Crisp batting average. A 542 on base percentage up the charts -- at the wrong but but now. Left it down to a Jacoby Ellsbury. Did get a hit this year. David Ortiz start with the wrong stuff Michael David Ortiz won 54 and had just one side I mean look at look at your about the rotation -- under the numbers Matsuzaka and and and Beckett."

[4:28]" Mike Curtis. Jon Lester in the series all for two. Four point ninths of their -- that's one Matsuzaka four point 9 healer don't have Robert that got to win great winning game Josh Beckett nine point 64 ERA those are bing bang boom one to three the reason why we thought they win the series the reason why we thought they when -- championship. Lester -- to four point 97 Matsuzaka four point 9 Beckett nine point six or -- look at the the rays pitchers Garza. 211. Point 38 I don't even -- need to go one well their ace pitch like an ace and -- I was a little bit less than that."

[5:02]" Yeah it was yeah Garza was fantastic last night just great and if not for that Jason -- error. I didn't see him. I didn't see him slowing down a really good -- had great -- the entire night. Jon Lester Jon Lester pitched well very well. But you know obviously just not good enough talk about those guys those numbers really have a problem -- Daisuke because he did set the Tony put him in the position where they can set the tone for the."

[5:29]" He should law went into -- like and that should have been it as a bad outing though a lot of ways they -- the game went like a great outing by the rays starters -- better. I would say much better at the teams are even. I agree with that the starting pitching in the series was not even it was dramatically in the favor of Tampa. They stay there and that's it that's the most important thing in a series -- won that battle their starting pitching was better."

[5:50]" I am very shocked I am shocked. The Jon -- to get a win in the series. Like short seven game series in you know we got a sampling of seven games with like a crazy year put. We were told many times by Harold Reynolds in some of our callers this Jon Lester. It was not only the best pitcher this year on the Red Sox but the best pitcher in baseball. If you're the best pitcher in baseball you think. You'd have a victory one victory in seven games here."

[6:22]" He was bad one night and he was very good lap with eight was it was like very good last night the other guy was better and it -- talk about getting us all pitching it's about balanced about winning with everybody. The Red Sox at 234 in the series Mike. They hit 280 in the regular season so they hit about fifty points -- and -- it -- you know I think that's misleading just let me past reluctant -- it's the playoffs of course -- okay while the rays bat to fifty and in this series. Now open their season average of 260 so the rays hit close to what they did throughout the course of 162. And a Red Sox -- fifty points lower well."

[6:55]" I think it's more accurate to say the rays hit. Are better than they did against the Red Sox in -- regular season in the regular season and those -- and they -- they're -- at 233. In this series. You know BJ Upton exploded and guys that you really didn't think about the for the series. Were major factors and they Willie -- bar a major factor. Last night and throughout the series and it one game at 52 I'm five RBIs. Willie I bar. Yeah it didn't think before the series and we were going to break down we do all the time. You know Joe Madden versus Terry Francona they're starters versus the Red Sox starters their bench versus the Red Sox missed one guy. Wouldn't spent a lot of time on the guy who came up huge last night when it mattered most and that was Dave price."

[7:40]" That's the future votes right there as well. Get get used to -- an accurate he's going to be -- it was your future's bright and the rays FYI have two or three guys like that which is -- in the mid minors coming up to the high minors. And that's why that teams aren't going anywhere they've got Koppel pitchers who were just like maybe not just like David Price you know flame throwing lefty those guys just don't exist but they've got a couple other. Top young pitchers who are in that ballpark like in the going to be -- the for years to come the they really will be to doesn't stick out with you when that game last night. There are two to get our -- if you go there are two plays that if you knew that he -- the day after why did day one if there's two plays for me that stick -- money or you go all of go at one in arguably 18 inning first and second. I believe there's one out. Ortiz grounds out into the shift there. And was you'll Mara who was playing over decides to go to second to get Coco and it was revealed really close play yep and Coco Crisp. Is that it on for the bag yes went for it for yet on board I guess the third baseman was over their wet for the take out --"

[8:48]" He feels like he's trying to break up a double play went -- was not a public but he should have known it was not a double play ball but I understand that that's what they say it's definitely -- back the back is right there in front of them. But that instinct took over and he said okay here's a ground ball that's one plate and I hit it and his here's a middle infielder and economy got taken out yeah."

[9:06]" Well he made the wrong it was a -- caught -- that's one tiger that's one in hindsight where you started slowly who if you had made the right -- there they've got. Look at the replay shore then got a -- up only one out ecstatic to and then how Drew struck out with a check swing -- the whole plate umpire game and asked for help with. So close to back to back those two plays -- going for the take out and not the bag and then Drew up next -- rung up. With out even help on the third base umpire on checked swing. Were two that I sort of after the game I'd start -- says well."

[9:37]" Yeah you've been around athletes for a long time you've been doing this as a professional on yours fifty. Twenty years twenty years he -- a lot of athletes and professional athletes are different they remember. I think I think 90% of professional athletes especially golfers. Half photographic meant what your point I mean I'm going to get -- F photographic memories. And they think of everything that you forgot about the game things that you don't remember they remember and they remembered definitely and I think this offseason. You guys were just got to -- is beating themselves up. Or at least a few weeks two of those guys. Dustin Pedroia mark not because what happens in baseball. We knows that you have. Maybe 82 with three good pitches having your pitch in game that you say this is perfect this is what I want this is why we take batting practice. And they both missed their pitches Dustin Pedroia. It is probably beating himself up right now missed his pitch like -- that's. At a pitch get it Wheeler then get better and that's a that's earlier in the eighth for a second no out -- you think kotsay. Here's a fastball. The fastballs common -- got to get it. Is going to be an even maybe a letter high fastball he got it. He thought he drove a bloody right field didn't drive it part not get a double there. You try at the game. It was a homered yet at home run opportunities so there -- some chances for the Red Sox last night just not enough -- you can see it. Becoming one of those games. When John Jon Lester is no hitting them early so early that didn't really think about the no hitter no hitter thing. And Matt Garza is right there with them settled down right after giving up the homer -- the Pedroia."

[11:24]" So Mike what do you go from here I mean I just say I well then yeah that's that that's the question number one thing I'm on my list for you look at the series again Lester -- to four point 97 Matsuzaka four point 9 back nine point 64. It if you want the number one reason why they lost the series they got out pitched in the starting rotation. But I don't want them to touch the starting rotation report over the weekend from -- academies -- the Sox are going to go after it Jake Peavy Alexander like oh. I don't buy I think it is paying in the -- for the New York Yankees like they always do which is what they should do. But all that is Izzo are a repeat of the -- and Santana situation and I think they were bright not to look for Santana I'd never want them to go."

[12:02]" Hold on hold on -- well why don't you buy. While the Sox going after Jake Peavy they definitely have the the goods to bring peavy here like got that they got the resource wanted to present and Alastair. Same same situation we're not necessarily save situation I don't know Jake Peavy is going to cost you as much. As Santana. Would've cost so I mean I think that's prohibitive that money. Percent yeah. In the age difference between -- we can we can look at appear that they tip the ball on the run at Santana they're both around there from now now not on all on the -- peavy is locked in he's got he's got four more years left but it's like 111617. And then there's a 22. Million dollar team option. -- 27. He's the team option. That easily towards them -- Okay so. If you can bring -- to keep bringing the Jake Peavy would do."

[12:57]" I don't think that's -- need I don't need his power. Young power. They don't have a well. I have in the system -- well they've you can if you guys on the roster and you want to acknowledge when it's most obviously in the history of the world. But David Ortiz has started to decline you do you detail and the pit but that classic bill holly -- and a bunch moment. Oh suggest that David Ortiz started on the way down oh I don't know age -- approach. -- those things I don't know what would. I don't believe he's on the around us on here but they've got our hot dogs -- dog collar."

[13:30]" Her baby failure maybe because we had a conversation. A desperate to those who don't know. Remember -- seen that on the deal because I didn't sit -- you have to. Be more months ago. Not to baby -- heard them. And it it and he can't let it goes you bring it up in October -- it -- that was -- on the radio -- don't -- it got. I said it to you it's agreed to a hot Ottawa on the Jerry Chang -- though because at that I'll -- at the time. Ortiz was struggling -- didn't even doing grass. Where insisted he and Ortiz -- That's it I think he's beginning his decline. With -- without god that's just you shorten the course not it's odd iced it before the season. I mean about not that you would hear why would you but I made -- of books on the other show that he'd be under thirty a 10300. -- he got the Award winning like -- highly rated and -- voted out now defunct might so that's okay but that's organizational lead back to point him in my opinion the organizational need -- corner. Of course but that's obvious but. Yet it is obvious yet we -- power of course you work. I think David Ortiz is none of the keys and -- he's done -- I think he's going to give you diminishing returns from the public."

[14:50]" So we're clear in week we can be on record here people actually hear you when you make your your comment here and make you bet. What are we talking about 2009 for David Ortiz are you saying he's a 25 homer guys -- under for the rest of his record. And two revival."

[15:04]" Now you'll be under thirty -- 10300 next year my feeling my opinion. And and a big part of that will probably be injuries he started to break down he is a player who has reached a point in his career where you started to bring down that happens like -- isn't happy Landry went stays healthy hits forty home runs a year apart now and forever. He got to -- and you just aren't that project when things are going to start to turn the corner and I think fourteenth at times started I still want to -- my team. But organizational you've got to think about. What you get that we get those numbers don't."

[15:34]" Well I think they've been they've been trying to acquire. Young power for a long time they brought in Chris Carter penalties answer you know large in -- guys and -- it is it that people talk about. That's one thing also. You have to figure out what you do in center field. Coco crew do you do it yeah yeah you do in a field yesterday you don't think Ellsbury is your center fielder of the future okay it's if Ellsbury should benefit for the future of -- which -- to a Coca Chris. Keep on as a fourth not what we're we're -- It worked out this year I didn't make a lot of noise publicly according to rob Bradford there were some times where you know he was pretty vocal about his role. But I don't think it is the best use of your money by -- I have Coco Crisp as your fourth -- to sell high ankle poker how's yours they'll probably go out there. Yet also picked figure out what you gonna do with catcher. Jason Varitek I would love to have Jason Varitek back here. Not at that money. Not at the money. And not and not that role on me maybe Jason Barrett to talk about the decline of the decline. Obviously has begun for Jason -- maybe he's one of those guys who catches instead of catching 120 games a year. Maybe he's down to -- halftime. What has little -- and 8085."

[16:49]" Games per year to make the catch -- things down Melissa I'll tell you -- Because there's so many few good ones there's so few good ones excuse me there's so few good ones -- young power hitters and pitchers and report the numbers are getting to right -- in the testing era powers become at a premium but. Whatever she whatever. Petrie get in here you'd be hard pressed to find a good one there's just there's -- on the Major League Baseball fighting deposition you're going to be hurting whether it's Ameritech or someone else. Which shortstop ahead of that. Is July or your shortstop of the future with when you're the second highest payroll in baseball and you're the Red Sox and do whatever you'd damn well please is just -- Good enough every day is that the franchise shortstop."

[17:27]" I don't find it hard to believe -- The Red Sox have a hard time. Figuring out their shortstop is going to be so I'm sure I don't look at it's an issue they always look for shortstop Republican deadlock reinstate. There were violent and so that they do. They say we -- What do you do with Julio -- get rid of these people who got money for the Red Sox it doesn't matter that's about it at some point -- online at at some point it does matter you just can't say we're rich we can take -- we can do that you can -- baseball will -- Julio -- as the money is Major League Baseball of course you can yeah at least funny if you're going to -- out -- Julio -- Manny -- Manny money for me half and -- what -- local -- two years at ten par. The one he Patrick got two years left it's time for four years. Eight million dollars a year. For Lugo against him got sixty million dollars and a honest and -- team and I -- went to payrolls are out of my -- forty or whatever it is. Six or 777 odds are that this number toll free 885250. Dollars lobby."

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