[9:27] ..." this game and maybe had little bit of difference. I like the Arizona Cardinals minus one and half again or you might see this at once somewhere else to work on the Boston Herald Saturday Saturday edition. And it's Arizona Cardinals minus one half. Worse buffalo."...

[10:10] ..." It right away one -- for. Arizona Cardinals. And one pro for the Buffalo Bills are the Buffalo Bills are fla. Right. I mean a -- that success can argue"...

[10:46] ..." Brett Favre leading -- Lives in it was in the meadowlands but Arizona Cardinals are six and two against teams winning with a winning percentage right. But doesn't this in there -- aren't. Does that concern"...

[14:16] ..." right back to -- over from my side -- and that's the Dallas Cowboys in the Cincinnati. Angles now I would expect that the cowboys win this game but a lot of points but I'm not gonna touch. Though the money sixteen that I saw today and The Herald sell. -- deadline tend to me a little by the way but -- this is -- you could see the winning team covering which which should be Dallas cover and then over on the by themselves for each floor half. Thinking right now that you've got to get to Dallas Cowboys. Good chance of scoring. In their thirties and there you know in the high thirties I don't know just they want to"...

[17:48] ..." It's huge stately game noble one -- statement game for the Indianapolis Colts it's huge advocate of pages. But the fact is that accurate yet agents saying. For the pages thanks to our area. I don't you know confused I just used this to ANC -- in Indianapolis Colts one in the pages all the Golan that you have to win this game. They have to wait and I good -- felt it that are not well that they don't just need Brady to. A half game that. You know pay the date they can beat the San Francisco for a team that they should be done without just one. Indianapolis Colts to the same thing that and not to rule that they didn't just win that one. You know super ball and that's"...

[22:47] ..." You know it's just. It is -- you don't want to -- Jon Kitna but you know he's not really putting up enough points. And again and you find themselves an -- issues and I agree"...

[0:10]" The dollar and a quarter over but J part of talk he would have made them both the number four weeks and now they're look in this. And -- five on football forecast. Let's go home."

[0:27]" Welcome everybody at week five football -- can befall forecast welcome Tommy ace Tom Griffiths and Jason -- here. The limit -- sixty every week. Not rule out weird week last week at three seats on yeah Iowa mirror image go into and three -- others what a sloppy football there slot before I do well in my day of the week which was George in the college ranks. I advise you stay -- college for you particularly. I went with. Or Tennessee. Minnesota on the -- yeah. Watch the -- of the much of vikings and the kind of felt bad for the Monaro vikings fans in Boston that's always had a whole NSC -- the vikings fans as fans Tampa fans. We view out of town and I was at sports depot I'll you know. Well as always you you can come here and that he had a comment was to -- every week so let's go. -- this college but not our fault that blame it on the -- clandestine way out there aren't as the playoffs baseball playoffs screwed up our recording schedule but it's -- right. Does why -- a silver lining to this cloud. Instead of Wednesday lines again now lines this week out of the Saturday Boston Herald they got more up to date up to the minute lines. If you listen in on Sunday morning to get -- last idealized advice before you start. Making your investments from it and this is how we -- Tom on the start off with my first pick of week five. And that is and I got a ride it until I don't think there. -- Dayton copper anymore but that's the wash in rats at this lines plus six in -- in Philadelphia. This to meet its like -- B two and half the race. I agree division game on -- NCs implant and the east as in -- division games this year and I told you last week when depict Washington this is my favorite pick that you made. I love that Pickler I also put a little bit on the money -- on the table which is it a good call because I have a number here. Actually. Of all the underdogs have covered -- 600 dogs have covered this year. Right and have all 26 of those under Doug's. Seventeen of them one --"

[2:33]" So what are valued that can be any sending you think of a big underdog. Is going to cover the point you might as well a little bit of money on right you know -- on on the just decide itself instead it better when I'll let her return to your investment that went."

[2:48]" A case other reason why take a Washington. Is again I think these lines should be three and and it's an NFC east it's always -- tight battle Washington's covered seven. Out of their last eight against spread a -- look at you look at just last week. -- Washington that. When beat Dallas there were eleven point nine -- beat Dallas in the Philadelphia -- team that lost the Chicago. Which kind of makes it a suspicious line like it's the sort of thing is supposed to -- that Philadelphia has to come back make a state in game that this is awful statement game for Jim zorn. Jason Campbell Clinton orders the whole Brett Brenda Campbell's -- better -- 31 now at a very -- division and they have to continue to compete they're they're actually in the driver's -- near a division camera in front you against the -- pro league you'd be competing with for a playoff spot coming in India and began to get a win against the marina. So again a few other numbers. They're nine and three against right in weeks fives. And I mean -- kind of in for a week it's an odd trend but you know once allowed just look at those things already desperate shortage -- trend that did visit. Dire dire need for a trend and -- you take any trend you can get. On. Certain ego that's why Washington plus six at field off."

[4:03]" Toledo Tom probably different my first epic. RA Miami is on by last week. And they do on them by after their big challenge is amendment to a celebration that's the last thing people remembers. That what they did -- New England. I don't think they can keep that up two weeks and arrow. On. Spread offenses and I'll work -- spread province the single -- single wing option offense. It's not going to work against San Diego did just have -- linebackers better ball pursuit. -- the patriots do right now. San Diego given six and a half to Miami. Again it's on a I like San Diego given the six and a half I think -- they when that one big."

[4:46]" Private -- chance. You know. As close game is a good chance that. You will be sent. Yet have -- with the games in Miami but still feel find of what San Diego being able to come Easton and take care business there. I mean -- to gain this one of the best bets on this week I think it a lot of people and to."

[5:09]" Bonds San Diego it's again that they need to win it's a yes it is trust Karachi but next week they play new England and New England decides stayed on the west coast. And you know you could say that's an advantage right away from New England after they play San Cisco sell speaking and -- in. -- stick with patriots on the nature. That is a pats fan but it just in general I think that the patriots need to win this game and need to do it. Some bias fair margin if they need to prove that they can score with a quarterback they have and it also need to prove that they can defend. A fairly. It pretty good offensive team. San Cisco is at a home that tune into patriots to one brand awful by -- week. It's minus 32 game is fourteen west coast. You know east coast times fourteen but there in the west coast beaches will be different ten days we'll let's listen I don't actually. This trend now is a huge game for the patriot."

[6:05]" I think we all know bill Belichick's record coming off -- by a week. Is impeccable very strong a very unbelievable record coming from biweekly he has -- two weeks to prepare for your team he would team is in a world of hurt. San San Francisco to the Mike Martz offense gone. We've all seen what -- check into a Mike Martz offense with a even a rag tag bunch on the fence and they get good veteran and young strong -- a good mix on defense right now I think they'll be able to handle Mike if we all know in my comes down to crunch time Mike Martz doesn't like their on the ball well."

[6:37]" We did not. That the San Francisco 49ers have a better red zone offense and better time of possession and the pages. They score points per game but. Really Italian artists but they've also jewel that's better than the page right who have that way doesn't loose talk about Seattle the patriots that the play the NFC west stated their numbers and those categories will be up to -- new England and open them before it. Fourteen and five on the road against the spread so that passed in nineteen you know I like that page yet love -- yesterday and that's. Again I think this system this line will move up to dream man."

[7:14]" Yeah -- epic agree. It's much it's my second pick on -- role. Are going to slide went up the flag -- on the -- who salutes this one RA and take a flyer on this I looked at this line. And it jumped right out of me as a lopsided line and then decided -- look into it more. Get the giants at home given seven to Seattle and I thought. -- in the giants win by more than analysts say it's. After yet someday it should definitely be a double digit game. So I thought obviously the giants have played. But. Let me look into it further so I look back over the last five years of the giants coming off a -- week. They've lost four out of five of those games and to some bad teams they lost in this St. Louis the at some bad losses and that. Seattle is a team that you think is devastated by injuries but. I've heard that they've. Deion Branch and Bobby and how does that come back this week. And the giants. Looked great so far this year."

[8:16]" They have to see with this link right to act and that it is and talk about the play right exactly. The Seattle another team I I feel funny about taking. Two teams that are going to be flying east across the country and to fill little funny about doing that. Yard tickets. Go to Miami right. But as I just it. Everything looked wrong about that line and you look too good be true so want to play an instinct a minute take a flyer on this game that lightly. I'm I'm going to be honest I'm I'm taking a flier for this but I'm gonna go with Seattle."

[8:50]" Seattle home. Plus the seven in new and that it is a good chance of that line in New York SI India like it at. Seattle plus the seven in New York. And it's good chance that that -- can move up so if you are Seattle back if you got expect deadline in Ohio lots on the sensible that but I like."

[9:10]" That's -- saved. -- proceed with caution on that on I don't know -- need to unload the bank account on that 18. On the it's on."

[9:19]" Here's one that and maybe you know it's six outs in me and I think that you and I both looked at this game and maybe had little bit of difference. I like the Arizona Cardinals minus one and half again or you might see this at once somewhere else to work on the Boston Herald Saturday Saturday edition. And it's Arizona Cardinals minus one half. Worse buffalo."

[9:45]" Before we get into discussing the the fact is began my guess I'll just throw my third pick out their analysis then because I have buffalo again no one and a half at Arizona so they go -- and discuss this is the first time this year by the way that we -- on the same damn right. I mean that whether picking the same game or against each other we have not at the same game this year. And it took just two weeks five stood to look at the same games that's pretty impressive right right."

[10:10]" It right away one -- for. Arizona Cardinals. And one pro for the Buffalo Bills are the Buffalo Bills are fla. Right. I mean a -- that success can argue that and you also can't argue if there's a very good chance that. They either way they need to lose what these are very close to losing -- to the Oakland Raiders helm there were but I think the Oakland Raiders there. Better than their record indicates okay you you can argue that but the cardinals can score. And yes that you 56 points last last week to the Brett Favre leading -- Lives in it was in the meadowlands but Arizona Cardinals are six and two against teams winning with a winning percentage right. But doesn't this in there -- aren't. Does that concern you at all that they lost their best receiver last week that ain't it does but I mentioned to you earlier this kind of -- and it Steve Preston as he could so it's at. You can throw atonement is -- going to be effect is -- is an -- young -- and have a good quarterback think it -- distribute the ball. You just need a better sense in me at home and I think that was -- this team a lot. You know not the cardinals will doubled merit."

[11:34]" It's a tough game it really is the cardinals look like they're better than they used to be they look like there might be finally out of a -- at their franchise is always admired always but. Buffalo looks so tough this year there winning big games there were there when a bigger went close ones they're winning everything and it went. And indeed this game and they see the division now they know they're looking around and saying good lord we can win this division and that it is is getting pumped. On."

[12:01]" And that they also think and themselves. If we win this game now. And the patriots win their game we're still a good you know this page is still have to catch up to us but. But if they lose what reform line in the patriots a three and one right. Such a big difference right there. But you like airs on like Arizona I think that the cardinals score. On you know they can school early. It's just all about giving out the ports. And they can do that I mean they can get up the point we we know full always -- last week didn't give up point two the best of taking dote on defense. They can do it on offense and that's what scares. And giving up points at special teams -- when you get that out on offense it's is that you know interceptions for touchdowns that's when scares me if you don't limit those things. And if you defense can limit a touch entertain him. And I think this team gets a score anybody annaly. -- should be an interesting Dana will both well one analyst is definitely not going undefeated -- the -- the -- should be excited will be to tell you about it next week so essentially both blew off Farrah. Take three right now living -- quick side that."

[13:11]" Aside before. Let's let's -- first Leslie because we -- our records but we didn't really include this in our records the way it's gonna give us at that point no we each windy we did mention a separate side game that we that we thought would come up last week in what was -- well I was normally college. And college so -- My Frist calls for the ability or -- is the over of the jets. It was in New York I believe the -- over by -- 56 -- talked -- And you it was 46 is the older cell over you you're covered you're comfortable about a -- and a very comfortable. And yours it's mindless San Jose state going in Hawaii. Get and three points and generous special they had the 12:1 AM degenerate special man actually won that game by three covered by six."

[14:07]" That's what happened to me and the fact is we both weren't want to know and our side bets. And right away that we view I'm gonna go right back to -- over from my side -- and that's the Dallas Cowboys in the Cincinnati. Angles now I would expect that the cowboys win this game but a lot of points but I'm not gonna touch. Though the money sixteen that I saw today and The Herald sell. -- deadline tend to me a little by the way but -- this is -- you could see the winning team covering which which should be Dallas cover and then over on the by themselves for each floor half. Thinking right now that you've got to get to Dallas Cowboys. Good chance of scoring. In their thirties and there you know in the high thirties I don't know just they want to make sure that everybody doesn't forget them when it talks you know when people start to document the best teams. Indian -- because. -- Austin Redskins last week. But -- gonna come out and you know but it will open on the old Cincinnati uncle's grandma Lewis who should be fired pretty soon sell to 44 as my -- atomic."

[15:16]" Well side about a little side action both sides play that I kinda like who looked a little bit Monday night in new -- at home given three to Minnesota. Minnesota's got a good defense going this year -- enough and on offense this idea Adrian Peterson -- a little banged up and -- and and new Rawlins side they've they've played better home they just do. You know among NI national showcase. A bigger enemy and that theory ago. And ignore until Clinton and it's really well on the dome they do they just they just really do -- day. They feed of that Kroger."

[15:49]" It. Is for -- and overs. And sell take a look at gains this week news or are they can't stop -- yet -- you know it's. In. Action -- itself. Can cause a great time. Makes this game because. -- know somebody else -- excited about the scheme. Meaning. But. He's a compromise story. So. He's not home tomorrow. -- he's pissed off. This week in Houston. -- can snuggle with life. He's only. Instantly Houston. Texas history and there it is getting reports. Scheme. Its team its. One against Auburn."

[16:53]" You have let's do all the inside action here while watching the Vanderbilt. Auburn game as we do this little program and -- Vanderbilt just -- picked off a pass on sovereign class possession by the Clinton knelt on the ball and they won the game 143 pass."

[17:07]" In the end zone yet and for Auburn ranked number thirteen in the end he -- nineteen. Uncle actually college this week because I would. Extremely bad zoo they I think day in my flip flop in the rankings next week I think the fact that the NLP playoffs comic solemn. Just too much involved that it was a bad week for us to. Focus on football geeks on that would just on the expect a sidebar over let's go -- clear that we don't want to hear why you like -- so much has to be honest that it. I kinda lean Houston on the -- okay there is like Indy so much is. It's huge stately game noble one -- statement game for the Indianapolis Colts it's huge advocate of pages. But the fact is that accurate yet agents saying. For the pages thanks to our area. I don't you know confused I just used this to ANC -- in Indianapolis Colts one in the pages all the Golan that you have to win this game. They have to wait and I good -- felt it that are not well that they don't just need Brady to. A half game that. You know pay the date they can beat the San Francisco for a team that they should be done without just one. Indianapolis Colts to the same thing that and not to rule that they didn't just win that one. You know super ball and that's it. Color. This game. Eight I have to answer critics especially want to see you can echo one and three in their division merit coming up by recover an awful but we did very. This game they're angry it lost to Jacksonville because they thought they had their team heading into. Half. This that this and this should be six."

[18:59]" It is something planned of these games this week that we have had to deal with this year and comes up every year is he had the first week we have to think about the coming off a bye we tractor. And this is an a lot of our games and and teams coming off a bye week right and this is yet another one so my."

[19:14]" Play of the week is is Indianapolis minus three in Houston again I thought I was excited to put the scandal I picked up thank you so pissed --"

[19:22]" That he was not already seeing some. It'll hold till six and nine."

[19:27]" You know Houston will lose."

[19:29]" It's this -- until within the intangible the old intangible becomes -- a football game once in awhile and that's Houston in week five plan the first home game. If you remember they had the right the hurricane. Blow through Houston and you know kind of damage to stadium and they had big game against. Baltimore Baltimore they're beginning as Baltimore postponed -- whether. And so this is their home opener and and it could be an emotional affair it could be but."

[19:55]" Just don't match I think Indianapolis when his game and and they do a good job by. Hey you know answering -- the share actors and Tom Jackson and everybody else. Let's see Indianapolis -- shed that there's still the ones looking you know looking down in this division and the pages should do a little bit as well."

[20:14]" But still I still see Houston as a team -- the a young fast the fence that can make some noise before the year is out and have some disabled playoff rankings. And I wouldn't be so quick to. Put my confidence in them in the --"

[20:29]" Well there's my play the -- can. Again I ever go like this -- gets really want to my favorite lines this week college or NFL so they got some oil ice."

[20:39]" Oh I'm my pick of the week I told you earlier I was who I was looking for trends and whatever trend of playoff and I have -- finance I've done some numbers. I've I've done some research I've done divisional records I've done everything I could think of and I can't find a good trend except for teams that are undefeated or winless against the number. Now you get two teams that are undefeated against the number right now. And that's the Baltimore at three you know because they had that one game postponed and Tennessee if tomorrow unfortunately. Yeah they're playing each other's six that's that's the dilemma the immovable object versus the irresistible force and violent. So I can't cornea that won the other two trends that gut. -- St. Louis and Detroit by the way I think Baltimore and thinking I just -- well written but I think ultimately -- law say something promote the spread. Baltimore at home is -- three from Tennessee. And that is the kind of game or home home for the -- could make a difference I I personally like Tennessee -- team right now but there is also thought that they could steffens Vince young and -- and I think that throws off for whatever chemistry they have so I'd be. Tempted to -- in your direction with Baltimore. But without play enjoy it with them -- each other. That via. You know at the steroids and I want music and touched turned and the other trend is the winless teams against the number which are St. Louis who has a buy this week and that just leaves me. Detroit at 13 hasn't covered spread this year and I don't they're going to start now especially even at home and -- Chicago common in Chicago who had some convincing. Wins this year. You know women -- winning ad in the in the season opener since that's winning against Philadelphia last week. They've looked like a tough team cut -- to have confidence in Kyle Orton and Chicago's only given three and a half. So. -- just a better team in Detroit Detroit's bad it's just plain bad."

[22:37]" There aren't a lot well a lot of mess I mean the coach probably going to get. Fired at the end of the year. They'll probably just start over again. You know it's just. It is -- you don't want to -- Jon Kitna but you know he's not really putting up enough points. And again and you find themselves an -- issues and I agree it's -- the -- on the other game right now."

[23:01]" They can they can't run the ball right now they drafted. Did you did draft Kevin Smith a Central Florida kid looks over in college and he's not really doing much they don't have anyone can run the ball on. There coaching."

[23:14]" Bad bad older not ownership -- a city on -- a bad. You know just general managing and everything else to hear that on yet available on the island but even still. You know. And you don't you don't start you know start winning games and you -- woods yeah hammered away. Yet that's a bad team and they just get worse so we takes. For 44. It's been tough few weeks not you know we've been able to stay afloat went right but you know at -- it starts with these lines. You know there are ways -- this is privacy and our teams -- they take a few games --"

[23:52]" That's why if you notice we each picked four games as we would -- side -- we get stuff like that but we know -- put enough faith in four games each this weekend and that's something you have to do if you don't look if you look at the lines and you don't like the way they look you have to know that I can't just that everything. I have there'd be disciplined and just take what looks good. -- and smart she got. You know that's why you gonna try to -- the big bucks so that's our picks. Tummy aches for J -- it was. Good don't -- I'm -- it's good to do it on a Saturday absolutely good luck everybody wants -- next week later."