[1:50] ..." when as we said yesterday when 60% of your starting rotation. Is Carl Pavano Darrell Rasner and Sidney Ponson -- You got no chance of putting together that streak you've just described. Because those guys are capable of"...

[2:16] ..." and you don't see it in the nest and replaced shocker where Jason Varitek stands at at the ball asleep in the yard -- text stands up. And goes to Okajima like this stale and holding"...

[15:09] ..." ace. You want to know because let's face it. I think without Josh Beckett the -- the way. There's still a playoff team maybe -- it there may be a playoff team. I don't feel good"...

[15:40] ..." enough. To get to the playoffs with -- what they have as Jason Varitek pointed out yesterday and it went six and three on the road trip without Josh Beckett. Finale and then they did fine they got enough to get to a playoff spot. Thanks in large part to the ineptitude the Yankees in my opinion but beside the point now beyond that I don't know now I'm with you. I don't see winning a playoff series without that stud. You know taken the ball in game one -- theoretically -- are all in game four and it's hot parker. You gotta look at them definitely without him so yeah that cross your fingers on this trip with Josh Beckett. Down with the plan and look hopefully. He goes down their Andrews looks adamant says Josh it's fine let it go you"...

[16:47] ..." from the team -- yup it seems to be the same -- Josh Beckett to made both these guys both of home. And what are we don't need to do J. D. Drew a soft today"...

[18:02] ..." Went well with anybody but with an asset as valuable as -- Josh Beckett if there's even a 1% chance Beckett doesn't think he's right but he's not gone back out."...

[0:00]" Everything your world it's as good as it can possibly be. God has a way of sent home a little giddy yesterday dale. Little deposit it well and have fun time down butterflies and birds. Realized. The last. Always look on the dark side always the worst case scenario is that it's all gravy why you have a job for God's right yeah it what you would -- do it's thank -- days are you know God's way of making sure that we don't get too far down happy Iowa City. If you thought it would have been a disaster guests -- have felt so bad. Actually I am and I know you wanted. Though the final final -- I I -- I still don't think that the Yankees -- The one against yesterday wise if Jon Lester pitches great. And still lewis'. All -- good about that part of it and I feel great about Jon Lester capsule right I mean I thought he was. He was the man again he went out there instead I'll show -- that bad start open in Toronto and and -- you rate."

[1:04]" He had an opportunity I don't there we have right now was me aside. I mean just the way it happened at what you know one it would look like if you're gone out of there with a sweep is just I know it's symbolic it and I would view you know that the the overall principle here hasn't changed that is. In my opinion the Yankees do not have the pitching to put together along when streak which is what they have to do to get back into it they got a have a stretch here where it's you know -- to an -- there are ten of fourteen you know I just don't think. With the back three and that's starting rotation they can do that's all the big pitcher doesn't change its gist. -- yeah have a shot there yeah at a real opportunity."

[1:40]" Well I still don't think the Yankees have a prayer anyway so that's the only area where and I divert a little bit I still think they're not we agree on that yeah I I think they're they're done like dinner anyway when as we said yesterday when 60% of your starting rotation. Is Carl Pavano Darrell Rasner and Sidney Ponson -- You got no chance of putting together that streak you've just described. Because those guys are capable of putting it together the streak you just described. But it was painful yesterday I mean. You know Hideki Okajima morphed back into bad Hideki Okajima again and it hurt."

[2:11]" Have you seen I sought -- still sports the outcome which is -- website ever but there was a there's a shot and you don't see it in the nest and replaced shocker where Jason Varitek stands at at the ball asleep in the yard -- text stands up. And goes to Okajima like this stale and holding both my -- out to my side where was that that does say. Why was that I usually -- with -- the question is where you know and in other words I told you to put the pitch here. And you put it there. But I don't I you know I don't know that was a horrible pitch like I mean and left the yard and it becomes a terrible idea to leave a pitch up like that to deal -- To a guy -- the only way he's going to hurt you. Is if you leave the ball up and allow him to drive it out of the park to to do that in that situation is. Inexcusable. -- awful just a terrible pitch. By Okajima and even. Tito afterwards you know I think you don't just had some effect that's not what we're looking for -- for him that's sort of shots. Roy and a player under the bus you don't even go that far usually so that he acknowledged that is just to beat to be brought in that situation and do that. All awful do you have any second guessed for even bringing in Okajima now in that situation is masses and not your best reliever at that juncture."

[3:26]" Well first of all. The Yankees countered with their own -- but strangely enough that I give them credit but as they went with a lefty on lefty match up. Made about pitch he's been great he's been guy -- I just don't have an issue. -- now if he had brought in out. Not even available -- David Aardsma is all of a sudden in that spot. You know we're all they -- do -- he he's got three guys as we pointed out who he feels really good about. The back into the bullpen Okajima Masterson. And eventually Papelbon will to those three didn't get it done who's your best they've Papelbon also failed in the ninth inning MI going to get on him to."

[4:03]" I mean the lefty -- you -- like you have Okajima you have to put out the window open he's it to those those numbers don't really hold to form has been pretty good against lefties this year -- about it once something against Okajima but. You see what I'm saying he he's not one of those classic guys what's left left right right. All that being said -- between him and Masterson who has been your hottest really horribly. Who has been better between the two."

[4:25]" A masters right but you know I I think that they're there and I don't know I I don't know what what Terry. The thing we never know is is in and they always have all this information is. You know pay if you stay away from -- today it would I don't know what they. What their list the is you know that well that went on there hasn't been on and on I think it was and I I don't know how you know where it where they're saying. You know will have Okajima goal for this guy and then we'll bring Masterson in the go for that guy those are always things that they have in their mind about going to second guess it. Because Okajima has been fine -- like failed -- allied I think the next time. I don't think you'll see Okajima I think if that wasn't it I don't -- and failed to oh. But it well I mean look all three guys that we just talked about at the back into your bullpen coughed it up yeah they did -- and pick up in my going to bitch about him bringing in all three of them. To me it's it'd. Yesterday's game is not ammunition for those people who want to -- Hideki Okajima somewhere else -- the ball then because all three guys coughed it up so the question is. Has -- should masses and have moved ahead of him for that for that -- three apple it's strictly situation. And and they always whenever we'd ask Terry you know like to go with -- situation and he always talks about it we want to bring this guy he always -- I agree I absolutely and then we were going to use him to get this guy they've always got it all very well planned out. -- my guesses. Kind of -- but Girardi was going to put Giambi up there. I mean Giambi had closed the game on Wednesday night with a home run but had an awful. But the last 345 games he probably didn't mind haven't Giambi go up there and."

[6:04]" Situation you always numbers are Koreans Okajima we have now the -- about I don't know I don't have it here I looked idea but I guarantee you. That well I don't care to you could be by cents based on Francona track record. That the numbers were pretty good in favor of Okajima verses masters no matter how many appearance that happened to be. Typically that's where they err on the side of those numbers a personal matchup numbers are obscure. You -- your first dale. Probably not first but I wouldn't be surprised you going forward. We see master at it being Okajima masters and Papelbon as opposed got to where it's totally situation well it'll vary depending on who the matchup is Wilson who's coming up. I don't believe they never -- write anything. Other than the clothes -- you -- they don't they just don't do that you don't think it was all but by the time they on the roles Lester it was always Okajima to Papelbon not it not always I mean while it. They're they're much more situationally and you give them credit for playing that way they look at they look at you know this guy. Hitting against that guy and if we get these two guys out you know then we're -- that we're going to go out of that guy got they're very situation with all that at the back yeah. Now you know your your talk and fourth fifth sixth inning. It's totally different -- I think that I just my mind's eye or is Okajima was the last guy before Papelbon Lester that's the way it worked out the vast majority of times. I would be surprised -- from this point forward you're seeing masters and the vast majority of time being last got a Papelbon and I. And if that pitch was one of the reasons I don't blame that was like god awful. Inexcusable I have no problem you know knock in Okajima is effort last -- bad pitch absolutely why don't say anything bad about masters. I you get the job done it and no doubt about it no doubt about it by the late Giambi going into the of that was one for six lifetime against Okajima. Actually you know you you knew those numbers were going to -- they looked a mop but I I promise they yeah absolutely out single wall let's stop them. You know I -- Giambi nurses masses and what percent respect there but by the computers then they'll get them get at four and we'll find out. You know I have no problem criticizing Okajima performance it deserves it. But again Masterson didn't get it done. Your stud closer didn't get it done. You got an 2 pitch on Giambi and you give up but you know a single up the medals though and but you know and part of what makes so excruciating is that. Lester was just about out of that inning couple different times he gets squeezed -- a call a fall ball on another. And it gives up -- hard double at that point he's out what -- 119 pitches and they had the looked at that point I suppose but. He was so close to getting -- out there on his own Giambi against masters and -- three lifetime little not much not much sample on either but. There's Tibet pitch it -- it was a terrible by Terry I just bring it up because some people mention that that you know watch your masters in -- he's your hotter guy I'm with -- At that point Okajima pitching well it's a fine matchup he just. Made an excuse didn't get it done awful I -- you want to go back today you know the game of inches stuff. You know but that dropped. Foul third strike yeah you know to ransom and you know next pitch ends up as the doubled on the left field line I mean Leicester is out of the inning. Easy pitch of the inning clean I mean it's it's always those little things that drive you crazy. -- several weeks ago. And I can't -- with three or four weeks ago. We use the line on the air on this show that anytime a pitcher's name is in the same sentence with doctor James Andrews it's not a good thing. And we were talking specifically about Joba Chamberlain at that time. Joba was going down to doctor James Andrews to get his arm checked out and as we said then. It's never a good thing when your name is in a sentence with doctor James Andrews so I'm not going to go back on that now and say I'll now but it will be fine in this case. I said it was bad back then it's bad now it may ultimately be. As the Red Sox have said. A way of of giving Beckett closure to this whole thing of easing his mind and if you haven't done so yet go to WEEI dot com. Read rob Bradford piece on this because I have a feeling Bradford. May have been a little ahead of the curve. Talking to Beckett about James embryos that one thing I didn't know and and Bradford will join us later talked about this. -- been talking to doctor Andrews virtually every single day."

[10:24]" Apparently he's been talking to doctor James Sanders. Regularly monthly and weekly throughout the years for. About 89 years Bradford writes that back upon Anders as a flight team the frightened using nineteen year old. Which has been told by doctor affiliated with the Florida Marlins but what Abrams surgery was inevitable. Beckett agency just a second opinion but the well respected position. The good call -- Andrews advised against the surgery the Marlins were having -- prescribe to different course of action. Nine years later but it's labor and remains intact and so with a lot of communication between the Q so since that point since since it was a nineteen year old kid. And Andrew Saban from the ninth at the Florida Marlins. Beckett has treated handers. As a confidant not so much is just the specials that he talked to from time to time almost the friendly uncle you get advice from a regular basis so apparently all through this week dale. He and James Sanders have been talking. Through the side sessions through the reports that he came through it fine through the through pushing back once and and pushing back twice and out Beckett said to rob Bradford. That Andrews is hesitant to tell me exactly what he thinks it is because he hasn't seen at this about two days ago or three days ago that Beckett told -- for this. Over the fall he gives me some reassurance but he's like. It doesn't sound like this. But I can't rule that out until I see it insult by which by the way any good doctors going to set records to Allen Bradford three days ago that this is probably coming down the pike and just into as the leaders who do with Comcast dale. I got that sense too because the team tone has been one thing okay. Numbness tingling we've rules of things saudis find pushed back to Friday in court you know he's going to go Friday the team. You know push up initially pushed back -- start and gave him his next start data we knew what it was set -- by the team. And at the very same time the players saying. I'm -- today. And we talked Papelbon Papelbon -- he's working through some things we'll have to see. Which way this parents so I think has been a couple days in here where there's been a little bit of a divide between. What the team is seeing and prescribing what the player is comfortable with and as you said. Maybe the team is saying please go to your guy in Birmingham and and reassure your -- letter."

[12:35]" Feel better about this senior all mine get it clearing your own head. Like I based on my own observations I was in the clubhouse Wednesday. And with watching Beckett talking with rob with Dan Shaughnessy -- other members of the media he's not the most chatty Cathy kinda guy around there. The fact that he was talking he was talking about his side session he was saying you know it it feels fine everything went well he was he was very upbeat about. How things had gone. So I think he felt okay about it. But I think in the back of his mind there's always this lingering but don't."

[13:10]" What I just got to know and and you know I've -- on this when this first happened I was like okay they just there was Rondell White as they pushed him back Aziz. Come off kilter a little bit -- getting and one of those. Typical Red Sox many vacations -- they get their starters every now and adjustable may want to get his head straight. And they pushed back once again I gotta come off that it now leasing Anders -- walk. Now it is a full blown -- dale do you think that. If he was feeling perfect and a 100% and felt no more tingling and numbness. That he would be making this -- what you think he would have had to build something this week to want to make this trip."

[13:44]" Mike that makes total sense to me I am and I'm not even going to argue it makes total sense to me but I also wonder if you know before you can go out there and let. -- 97 mile an hour fastball go. You gotta eat you know it's that it's that confidence back during your own head you know sure I'm throwing a side session in the bullpen and but I'm not getting ready to make a pitch against Carlos Quinton you know in the seventh inning with a bases loaded and two -- here -- got to reach back and give that something extra. And and I'm just guessing that. If it it it's like when a guy gets a knee injury here. And they always say. Your body's fine physically eventually that you got to get over that mental hurdle of I lot there and take elect you know Tedy Bruschi talked about coming back up the stroke and that first practice where. You know he had to go into the middle of that line and hit somebody head on. And get up and say okay I'm all right you know it's it's okay I can do this. And I am just wondering if that's where Beckett is where he just needs a guy that he trusts completely that talent. Josh it's okay Atlantic up Dale Evans got to hope that -- right ought to look I know that's that's me being optimistic that I look at -- really argue with you. That it doesn't feel right and he wants that he wants the OC doctor James Andrew."

[14:56]" Australia. Also has now now I don't know -- all I when it first happened I was okay you know what they're pushing him back -- he's fine you know all. And now I don't know and I hit a -- your ace. You want to know because let's face it. I think without Josh Beckett the -- the way. There's still a playoff team maybe -- it there may be a playoff team. I don't feel good about a seven game series of five game series real bomb bomb global what all that horse without back guy. Now you know in terms of winning a championship that's a that's a serious ball I still think they're deep enough dale to be a playoff team without him. Man you gotta look at them differently post season was."

[15:37]" I agree with you completely that I still think they've got enough. To get to the playoffs with -- what they have as Jason Varitek pointed out yesterday and it went six and three on the road trip without Josh Beckett. Finale and then they did fine they got enough to get to a playoff spot. Thanks in large part to the ineptitude the Yankees in my opinion but beside the point now beyond that I don't know now I'm with you. I don't see winning a playoff series without that stud. You know taken the ball in game one -- theoretically -- are all in game four and it's hot parker. You gotta look at them definitely without him so yeah that cross your fingers on this trip with Josh Beckett. Down with the plan and look hopefully. He goes down their Andrews looks adamant says Josh it's fine let it go you know with -- I think kind of what Josh wants somebody to tellem."

[16:26]" I mean and I think this is slightly compare able to JD -- it is I mean based by the totality of that -- we talked on the other day on the radio dale meaning Tito was. Basically saying. In all it's that serious it it's fine should be able plate to a we've got to reassure him and ourselves and it was just gotta be reassured. But they should be okay and I hit the tone album from the team -- yup it seems to be the same -- Josh Beckett to made both these guys both of home. And what are we don't need to do J. D. Drew a soft today but both of these guys have durability. Like throughout their career I mean that neither of been durable guys -- just haven't that's a fact not opinion. And so maybe I'm both of these guys are a little bit of the same spot where it's you're okay. We think you can go do whatever you have to do is assure yourself -- go see the spine specialist. Beckett goes to your guy and Alabama what every need to do we think you're okay. You get your mind right and come on back that that's the best case there."

[17:22]" I do think and I think there there this way -- every player but especially with pitchers. They will always err on the side of caution they will not take a chance on a guy and you go back to that situation and came up here a week or so ago was the Toronto game. Where you know sixteen pitches. Everybody wants -- to send. Jonathan Papelbon back out for a for that third relief inning we gotta win this game in Toronto -- is given us the home run he's given nets us a chance to when you gotta send him back out and he's and I just won't -- You know the last time we sent him out for a third inning you know he he got hurt we had a shot I'm down for the year I'm not going there and and I think they're adamant that with. Went well with anybody but with an asset as valuable as -- Josh Beckett if there's even a 1% chance Beckett doesn't think he's right but he's not gone back out."

[18:10]" Their track record with matching pitchers in arms is pretty good pretty good it really is very few guys that they've burnt out. And a lot of teams aren't a lot of guys out they you know we always complain about them airing on the other side but their track records there's terrific it is. We will will take a break and obviously we'll talk some football you -- the fourth and final exhibition game last night at the meadowlands. Will talk about that we'll talk about backup quarterbacks we'll talk about a whole bunch of stuff does. That's next on the agenda we are at Gillette is that backup quarterback the least of our issues right now the definition -- double Estes but aren't there other things that --"

[18:43]" Look at him when I was telling you a week ago -- how MI up the one with value that backup quarterback it doesn't matter it's on the list but. Good -- a minute practically apoplectic about back at Illinois apoplectic after the break are coming down right."