[22:06] ..." cautious approach ferocious it's it's it's a classic slow pitch softball atrocious. Melvin Mora is like you know Bobby Greenberg fourth for a that in the book fair. Sort of pitches out of the zone in the fourth inning against Daisuke extricating. Himself as a part of -- Hagerty -- accident like that that's part of the Hagerty lexicon right there like that later in the fourth inning and he another say it though -- Houdini act. How does he do it's imagine what it's like to play behind him Dustin Pedroia all right."...

[23:29] ..." he liked the first base umpire blocking his way Alfonzo Marquez. Perfect Dustin Pedroia evidence evidence but you elected you like this stuff. Up until late this laser show them a minute it's. It was it"...

[25:02] ..." No matter what's going on again warming up in the first inning David Aardsma like he was you heard Jerry Remy in the telecast very surprised. When Aardsma started working world warming up and it was"...

[28:03] ..." this six for argue with first base operated Jerry happy meals after BJ Upton. Doubted RBI single -- a Madden said my ranking guy hostile. It's. Actually hustle and it gets called out badly pushing all"...

[0:02]" Tom day. -- get through this together. Day number three of the Mike Felger experienced John Hagerty joining me -- jolly good morning -- this feel every morning when you do the show we feel like your starter that's on short rest and be asked to come back. Is that happens now. Just Wednesday now that's it's just another day to key game meter every day your pitcher with a bases loaded. I feel like Daisuke in about the fourth inning every good news show that collided it was not Daisuke Orton on it's it was if you. -- to a site or -- Wikipedia game that would be one that you -- late Daisuke Eric I'll Mike god. Classic vintage invented -- word is maddening. In all his glory. In all his beautiful wonderful fifteen win glory John -- Perot understand. If the two best when he -- percentage in -- are sisters and Bob Stanley. Rabid joins -- the 9 o'clock power the rest of your phone calls and emails given the number real quick right off the -- we talked about this. To start out 61777985888525. 850. Dennis and Callahan at WEEI. Dot com the fifteen wins. Is at all that -- to look at forest but it's not about -- all the other numbers that I find so president just the way he does get out of trouble. It is uncanny. Uncanny. And the way he does it -- that the bases loaded fourth inning situations at all. Last night where he's got the bases loaded and he's motor problems well righty guy comes up that -- got two outs. He gets more on up a break just a nasty breaking pitch and he's got off to a one a unique situation and one. You don't want to go three balls the bases -- for obvious reasons. -- Daisuke come with a fastball -- recalls another backdoor slider which each get to expect -- pops up -- that. Daisuke right there old apartment all fourteen with the bases but -- as an incredible number."

[2:02]" And that was that reputation that Daisuke had coming in the last year in this what we expected to see with a guy. That even when the yet that's kind of steely nerves where when the bases were loaded. He wouldn't given the batters -- just argument on the fastball and we still try to trick them or try to get them to chase his pitch that was how it was built last year there were times we didn't see it last year and we get -- fastball heavy but that's what he's been in this year's exactly what the kind of itchy eyes of frustrating. Yeah as a frustrating to watch a guy. Eight times this year has failed to get in the sixth inning after throw ninety pitches and it just burnt down his bullpen that's a nice move with frustrated looking ahead that is going to kill you. I'm going up all the wanna let him go a 110 pitches. Well you know I -- it's gonna kill you to come playoff time because the days off between games and all that stuff -- bullpen. Are able to get a little more rest during the playoffs when you have a guy that gets you know through 56 -- that you -- more than -- more than in the regular season -- agree --"

[2:59]" He'd throw a 105 last night. And again and -- haven't talked about this full time Daisuke is from Japan where they throw all I don't really wants a weak that they pitched but he has used to go deep over a hundred pitches one -- more than 15. All the management prelude to the nth degree while that guy that guy I think they have to make that one that I agree. I agree that although it's not exactly. He wasn't exactly mowing them down last wasn't exactly that that would be my thing is just -- not want to call him for another inning after that that -- be more than happy to you know who's thrown a two hitter to be more rapidly melt there. But it is just some of the pitches are so bad I mean they're so he -- wrong it felt like he threw at least ten pitches. That bounced in that first baseline batter's box whether it was -- lefty or righty. -- it seems like. He bounced at least. And of those pitches where they were a ball from the second they left hand. No chance of the better swinging no nowhere close to the plate and he did it ten. And again and again as a sales pitches -- so god awful where you're like yeah. -- that it comes in with a beautiful backdoor slider on hitters out when the pace."

[4:09]" can -- at -- I don't know -- is -- an unanswerable question I think -- come to accept -- that this is what he has acceptance -- price -- he's -- so I didn't write -- down -- that I -- Don -- line from a -- these deep -- from -- the other -- like deep -- yesterday -- as the price of -- yes I believe it -- thing but -- that -- acceptance as the price of -- I think -- That's just the -- He if it is I I think Daisuke you just have to deal with that that's a part of the package with him I think. He's different from every other pitcher on that staff I mean the philosophy Westwood one present exclusive coverage of the 2008 Summer Olympics on marketing and this is our package that can just roll that Al comebacks that looks like that's like putting -- The song gymnasium here a lot of the -- I don't know I'd do over again. I live feed over from Beijing is that what's happening right now."

[5:14]" The Packers. Numbers. Good book -- about that that's great. But don't let guys -- it all is happening. Absolute my decreed the all his glory and in all the unanswerable question meters well I answerable I think it's. It's easy you just accept them for what do you know what I'm I'm going to have to I -- deal for him to be a lead Joe he can't keep -- going -- that we don't make millions not going to believe that's my points I think I away will be."

[5:43]" The way he pitches. I think watching him he's always going to leave you wanting a little bit more I don't think he's ever going to be fully. Completely the guys you want him to be here think he can be because I just shows you -- certain point I'd. I just don't think he's that guy and I think he pitches with a certain style he plays with the bats he'll waste pitches. He looks to it to try to trick hitters and get them to chase bad pitches I think that's part of the reason why you see his his numbers as low as they are. Because he gets pitchers -- hitters to go after his pitch rather than giving in as he did it points last year. I think he's embraced more of his philosophy rather than what everything the Red Sox preached to him last it doesn't feel like fifteen into it doesn't taste like melting into the -- like a taste like chicken but what those who I think eventually he's going to get it. I think he's going to get it he's gone just like Jon Leicester this year on it I think eventually. Does is going to get a little less stubborn he's going to have a little run where he -- attacks hitters more he doesn't walk guys. And it's gonna collect and he's going to turn into an all -- guy I just feel that's going to happen eventually not going to be eternally frustrated than Mike I think maybe I don't know that that's ever going to happen and I don't 77. Walks and well. Seven I -- that's additional predicting Cabrera. Who probably should never pitch again against the -- that -- never going to be beautiful to watch but look at the other numbers the batting average against the batting average against with runners in scoring position 188. The batting average against just overall team yet. Very low all across the board the numbers are good I just don't. It's medically he's never going to be a fun pitcher to watch and and -- inning -- watch -- sure if you're playing behind him in the field is absolute torture. Because you're just -- got to basically walks and strikes out guys and then you're sitting there just pick your but the rest of the time out in the field you know it's not fun."

[7:28]" So but what we're talking about here is an approach it's not a stuff. Thanks -- thing and I still love his make up I still think. That part of the reason he's the pitches like this is because he's stubborn of course any won't take coaching but the reason he's stubborn. Is because he's Michael Jordan -- Brohm Q and you never had a pitching coach in Japan ever -- you don't always done is -- he's used to being the man he is used to being. You know he's considered the greatest and that's how he thinks of himself now he's got an inflated self fuel over here are right but. I think at all you know he wants to be great he has the drive to be great and he's going to realize eventually that he can't be great. On this side of the ocean and pitching the way he pitches like what close to it."

[8:11]" What a few wins at the end of the season in nineteen games twenty games hasn't ERA under three. And and gets consideration for cy young and he looks at all that stuff and they system -- why don't I have to change look at the numbers that I put up I think there's an element of that to Mike I mean how can you argue. With the statistical numbers that he's putting up whether we think it's ugly to watch him pitch or not I just think at some level you have to get over a little bit of he's different than everybody else in the Red Sox that they help on the zone on the L challenge hitters they all these different things he has a completely different style of pitching. And I think we see those results I don't know how much you can argue with him as long as he's. These five innings -- art every time out if if there once every 6567. Times that's a little more palatable. And I think the other problem is in enough talked about the before. Having him with -- calls back to back in the rotation puts a lot of pressure in your bullpen and you're going to see it tonight if buckles in -- of that game. They should break those two up just because it's way too much for that opened at their current by the end of -- game well this year you're right I mean it is what it is I can you argue with that talking Margaret staff to -- get serious side and consideration because of stats that he Jets or even peripheral -- and consideration. How much is that going to tell him that he needs to change what he's doing. Because I think he's going to hear it I mean I I I think a budget Tennessee and that he's. People so frustrated with them and that. I don't know I think -- I can't -- dangers I think he gets -- not consider -- elite pitchers in the game I think he understands I think he will understand -- look pretty comfortable living -- devil's advocate -- he looks like that's he's fine with getting into the situations and getting -- and I think he knows -- knows how to bared down and get -- those situations and he's proven that -- coming out of the game -- five -- innings and -- he -- that of course he does not just going to -- should throw more pitches like you're saying but that's different from changing his ways and not being celebrity doing things differently which. I'm I'm not sure he's going to do."

[10:07]" It's only two years at -- of like a long time but for -- been doing that he was thirteen at certain way. Two years and a long time I just again I eventually think he's going to get -- I say yes I think eventually he will because then he. It's good to drive to be the best Joe and he he knows he's not the best he's don't you know he's not considered the best and forget there. He's got changeable but what he does I don't know that he does -- though because if you change a little but what he does what he becomes a different less effective pitcher what if the being more aggressive means he's throwing -- a pretty -- fastball at times into the zone and he's getting whacked around a lot parties allowing a lot more hits -- a lot of -- On that slider into the batter's box on the first base side get that it entered to pop up like what are -- about whatever he gets again attitude that every once awhile which I think what he does not the -- some of those pitches last night were sold or so not close that's the thing at its. You know to Knuble was wrong. E three feet outside or -- want some of those pitches it's not that he nibbling. He's just not even close unpalatable might -- you correct actually also got."

[11:13]" It was a terrible pitch that he got. Orioles editor chase in that bases loaded situation -- more it was -- it was without it was a whale outsiders it's terrible -- chase I think that's part of his bread and butter. Is getting over aggressive American hitters to chase bad pitches and I think he can do that if you look at him. He's a guy gorgeous and you need to streamline your opinion I don't know where WB is -- don't know where I'm you know -- that -- Does not is that I'm apparently aren't let me let me put -- most elementary terms for Mike's not a NFL o'clock in the morning never going to change it's good enough that. He's going to wait until we're going to be but the rest of his career until this is very close to what he's going to be at the end of the year you look back the results and he's look at it this season he has now and he finishes -- what exactly what he's done and he stays consistent with what he's done this year. I don't think he's going to change that much Mike because I think he's effective. Getting hitters to chase and stuff out of the zone and his pitches rather than coming into play around with -- marketable pitchers I think that's -- that's I don't I think of these more. What's wrong with the click close 120 -- seat on an example at all -- understanding that you did not say exactly what you're saying -- I think it be -- tremendously what he's doing now would be a mistake I think he's."

[12:24]" You have to jump patient lineups Yankees. Toronto. Oakland in Oakland solid team and play our split up to -- Angels. They're going to feast on -- And and it's bound to catch up points -- and I million dessert eater who's feast on in the -- he's. -- I want to -- were open to his credit survived it rank him a lot of credit for that I don't know how but he's done it even he said today. In the globe it's bound to catch up to in the long. It's bound to happen and -- do I don't like history joke and Jeff Gordon in The Herald Daisuke. It's sixth. Win -- allowing five or more walks which is the most for the Red Sox sense of a great Mickey McDermott since Mickey McDermott in 1953. It's the fourth and six wins with five walks are more in that game the worst in Major League Baseball. This student body witness in 1987. He is all any value you drum up the name of Bobby -- that's trouble -- has to be an entrance Bobby -- it's -- it's no soccer's Matsuzaka. It's suppose you how rare it is. And how it is hard to get away at that in the long haul because I mean it's not. No they'll put up that many wins while walking in my guys that he does in two decades. Hard to get aware of that I think he's got to realize I mean come on just because. He's got a I didn't realize is light on what to do about it. It's going to figure it out what -- about it yet stronger okay Lester did but eventually. He stopped it was more nobler than Daisuke is -- he'll. You know more while benevolent but Lester got eventually. Actually started to attack hitters and attack the zone and sometimes just a a flips switches I know what Daisuke about."

[14:07]" This year I think when you attack the zone with him too much I think is his fastball at times he's at times can overpowered his fastball but other times. And a lot of times it's it's marketable than anything else you'll see moments if he's more aggressive in the zone like you're talking about with all of his pitches and not. Trying to tantalize hitters with -- stuff you can see moments like I believe was against the Angels and -- fifth inning where he just basically. Got whacked around and he said afterwards I was too aggressive in going after the hitters too much and I I've got to make a change -- my plan. Because they whether that's playing right into their hands. That's the kind of stuff you see with Matsuzaka when he's doing too much of that I think it's a fine line Mike between changing what he's doing right now and messing with something that's being very successful this year."

[14:48]" A fine line between clever and stupid and I'll say. Josh Beckett apparently numbness and that's that's that that's -- the -- Stuart what's up with that now. My gut tells me meter and -- another one of these Red Sox oh he's got to hang he's got a sore this or that couple days. And we'll see you later -- lots of Charlotte. At long history. Of giving guys extra rest and giving it a little bit of injury and and turns out the guys -- fine I think. It's more about. Giving back a couple extra days to get it right and work with them than it is that you used to that Iraq solid Red Sox or their scope just the history of -- throw something up they're not a light. I just a -- I Clay Buchholz went down with what a fingernail. Literally a fingernail. Or that the -- this is doing Paxton Crawford falling out of bed on top mystery it's close to it. And I slept on the all. Well okay Whitman I'm going to give up some runs knocked related I'm going to give up eight runs and two and a third couple days -- all my arms broken c'mon. Right the timing is a lot pointed -- that line you're not a lot and we hear about the sports starts -- because it's supposedly it's been on enough but it's never been hustling I don't think it's lingered for as many days as this as I see -- was carpet in Chicago when he was great against. Danks but -- up on the wrong when he got rocked for eight runs against -- Well."

[16:16]" The Providence journal to record to doctor from Providence doctor Robert shall -- says he's not examine Beckett but it is this is a big deal for the organization you'll get better by missing a start. Based on his symptoms. Normally the type of sentence Beckett is experiencing take six weeks to go away. And he says the prime symptoms for any pitcher who'll eventually need Tommy John surgery --"

[16:38]" Mike did listen Michael cannot get a little luck I don't buy it like -- ago. Did not -- his velocity was in the mid ninety's. While speak out steep losses on something and I know you miss RJ lot. Location absolutely Mike -- loss at over four days between Chicago and bought -- let me explain a little baseball you -- the basic tenets of pitching in baseball is if -- pitching through some kind of a minor annoyance like that problem hasn't reached epic proportions that your arm. The velocity isn't the first thing that's altered as a pitcher the first thing that alters location and command so that he can work residents are talking on -- as a plausible also -- that happened between Chicago -- and in Toronto right he slept on it wrong got it. You know that -- slept on -- wrong. It's a fine line between a normal person and a jackass as -- 'cause you're treading that line -- can't really. He's -- but the matches he can't afford really nice soft -- matches on the as hard. Part deals there is wrong -- right off with a phantom injury why would they messed with the singling in the numbness on -- players that slot dominated TNT RES and second I'm I'm addressing mr. Vick and he's got a rock. This is the baseball get a diagnosis luminaries slept on the wrong. I think at that I think this is that the numbness in team that is troubling as they wouldn't they would mention something like that and set up those warning bells unless there's legitimate concern them like that's not a phantom like. Hang nail you're going to go take a rest for two weeks and that's going to happen north. Program which you have off a week. Tests -- dies injected into the area catalytic of grass today in the test to be used to check for reasons. Olympic ban those it was because because a lot of unneeded soreness. If he gets the point -- do whatever you do don't think that's what it is. -- pushed back from Saturday to Tuesday in our program Takenaka tax that's market it's it's not about that's the that's serious. Pursuit in his. Wright's open it's no problem is according to Mike -- going to -- obviously you guys he's got this is ala hoax and it's like big -- mean the Nazi. As far as that -- is concern you guys attacked that the Chicago I heard you -- at his arm slot looked a little odd what you guys battle out -- right on it. Right on I just the other day that I -- I -- hope something's wrong because of these suddenly lost it. Here on August whenever it was neat to. And the the realist I'm pretty this is it. Actor not a lot of actors and -- up whatever reason he couldn't carry over last -- I'm pretty sure what I said Mike was it looked like he was pitching through fatigue or minor injury and that's why -- command was was. Was off in that game I said that you on TV a few days ago when you that you and -- both like -- if you talked about him not being a bulldog this year which is real scientific. Appraisal -- spot but I -- it -- three starts I don't know I looked fine and up until that are always right -- usually -- couldn't -- Mike -- that -- by the -- works -- you don't you don't look good bad until you actually start having a problem. Says a tough. But translate that from opting not understand what I just that is not English. That. Yeah that's at that seems pretty elementary to me 617779858. 525850. Emails Dennis and Callahan at WI dot com taxes tack and it's 61 -- translator."

[20:20]" During one bench where he lived a good thing -- the other -- wet. Mark Beckett but. No question about that want to -- hit it over the it's."

[20:39]" Into the bleachers for nothing wrong numbers but that those -- think yeah it was a good thing."

[20:46]" The doubt -- is common only fourteen you know if it's kind of the guy's not a captain Al -- Todd first month meter -- August that he spent over 200 since -- batting average wise he looks. Tiny little pieces of evidence that he might become -- locked in the -- He is locked the -- he's going to -- to twenty for the year probably I I would you don't feel good about that I knew you'd take a steaming dump. Guys Albert -- that's a bit much at 632. I'll just remembered -- the -- captain acceptances the price of freedom. To remember them you hit an RBI --"

[21:25]" Out toward right center field picked up I won't get it if my -- the all. Its glory that he dealt with there. On a long double. -- yeah."

[21:38]" Yes that part of their onslaught a large part. Baltimore. The what's the record now sixty and 65. Open -- just miserable. All other win sixty games played out the striker Peter Davis ran away there should be manager of the over Joe Madden. This team has won sixty games their only five games under their -- prayers a Major League pitcher. This to eleven against the Red Sox is a good point that's -- today it's it's been cautious approach ferocious it's it's it's a classic slow pitch softball atrocious. Melvin Mora is like you know Bobby Greenberg fourth for a that in the book fair. Sort of pitches out of the zone in the fourth inning against Daisuke extricating. Himself as a part of -- Hagerty -- accident like that that's part of the Hagerty lexicon right there like that later in the fourth inning and he another say it though -- Houdini act. How does he do it's imagine what it's like to play behind him Dustin Pedroia all right."

[22:40]" He's not given and you know we we know that in. Sometimes. Sometimes little frustrating but we got on our toes and expect the ball hits Lewis. And the Pacers -- slow but. You know that's that's who is and we believe we knew that and and know what we play behind. It's not likely we don't like my mind I hit fifteen until obviously we like it."

[23:02]" I'm surprised many with never picking -- feel -- was -- when he was in there was always that one kid in the league who's picking daisies acts if my -- bill that -- is the -- pitch on -- for the guys. -- the guys it is book steamboat Willie a year ago. -- out. The dugout and I think one of the funniest moments in this. Cuba in the eighth inning Pedroia getting thrown out because he liked the first base umpire blocking his way Alfonzo Marquez. Perfect Dustin Pedroia evidence evidence but you elected you like this stuff. Up until late this laser show them a minute it's. It was it was interest in instantly."

[23:47]" Things and industry the he -- stupid in my part he had thrown out where it's at us on the game so. Color from a."

[23:58]" The -- is a little Dicey Jeff Bailey goes to first Youkilis backed the third Jim Lowrie moves to second. That's not that that's on the active and have them start playing musical chairs at the end of this just in that's not or elect of now. Part of your -- not overlook it poured all public numbers you just don't you. I don't know you you're just go ahead I'm the reason -- are heavy heavy into the researchers at Josh Beckett. Pitch counts for the last two months I acted you know what you guys were you -- you nailed at the last couple Montes. Tired arm you'd definitely tell a struggling arm slot he's pitched over a hundred pitches. Up until he threw 1 -- Chicago of the start before it was nine against Kansas City that -- back. 12345678. Straight games where he threw well worth over a hundred pitch him."

[24:48]" Thug or baseball genius what they have somebody warming up in the first inning if they felt like his arm was fine and good aspects and even then you're you figure ace is going to start righting the ship but he's going to be okay you'd never see in Josh Beckett start. No matter what's going on again warming up in the first inning David Aardsma like he was you heard Jerry Remy in the telecast very surprised. When Aardsma started working world warming up and it was long before he gave up six runs in given them all up by that point when not when the bullpen -- gets started --"

[25:17]" And tingling in July you cannot have a start where he. All hundred pages of pitches every single time he went out in July or start August he threw ninety. Against the White Sox which was a -- Throwing eight innings 404. On -- and right. It all of numbness of two point did not but Fortson everyday option -- is -- It's in all the wrong places and at that point where. You. Market so is brewing over the is that the -- Percolating. Like he could -- hiring you conducted comedies. Oh suffered from some. It. Brought honor to that time is gone deep into the game for two months straight year. Out."

[26:09]" Iraq and I'm gonna go more for the Mike thug -- Greg Greg Dickerson analysis of not. -- Becker obviously doesn't have the eye of the tiger in the bulldog demeanor is not there this year that's his that's a much better analyses -- pitching as well right and a noble -- might be because as -- issue with a nice house and take it to be a circular -- embrace it felt her embrace that. If it's going to feel good when you embrace it could be a solution that is the figured out circulation circulation tennis circulatory system. -- us. The develop rubble Red Sox trailed Tampa bay by four and a half the razors -- chest pesky. Feisty they're tenacious. They don't lose."

[26:46]" At home sounds like they've won overtime meter -- item on this bandwagon that -- The leader of the raised -- well beyond all the good young players they're they've learned how to win -- overnight in one season ago there. Isn't going to the eighth I think -- no hit going into the sixth. And that another comeback win against arguably the best team in phase outs -- nothing you think they're going to get dubious silent night for them but no they come back to win four to two -- I bar. The little guys make contributions two run single in the yeah -- their 47 and seventeen at home. And the attendance at the trop last night another 15000 doing it. -- us favor -- hurricane Fay Vincent yes which did not touchdown right now just a little bit -- Little bit of populace clouds. With -- stratus and the mysterious. Stratus that this -- didn't. Thank you they diminish but Joe Madden."

[27:42]" Right coach we've we've been able to do things well late we've always felt that we keep the game close we can live -- send out. And help them and they got spectacular pitching in the they are wonderful children they're very good so trust to be able to do that he gets them now. In regard to road where that is it's a very good side."

[28:01]" Matt was rejected in this six for argue with first base operated Jerry happy meals after BJ Upton. Doubted RBI single -- a Madden said my ranking guy hostile. It's. Actually hustle and it gets called out badly pushing all the buttons right there that's that's been -- they said he midterm towards like right that that I'd so is trying to help. There's four -- PGA was a mocking BJ's swinger like that are taken practice like these guys -- and -- waited patiently discussed -- Patriots release of Marcus Pollard. Now -- CB. As -- Israelis -- they signed rookie tight and Tyson delivery and artistically it was in the first place there not ties him back for but Tyson delivery. It Tyson -- I like that -- either of doubles goes Tyson chicken Tyson gay you've heard of him. A Jim Miller heavily over here pay