[2:34] ..." How how does infusion treatment work. Well basically. Chris Rock Ron has had all of the standard treatments for a brain tumors he's had surgery and radiation he's had that oral chemotherapy that he mentioned. Combo when his -- came back for it for the second time. About a year and a half ago now. -- we knew that we we were sort of out of this out of the usual options. I'm and so we we looked to clinical trials that might be available at Dana Farber. And done we had started a clinical trial using a drug that attacks the tumors blood vessels. Did the goal to kind of this kind of treatment is to work by depriving the tumor of blood vessels that they need in order to grow and and drive. And so we enrolled -- clinical trial where he gets that an"...

[3:44] ..." going to work quite well Ron has. Had an excellent response to Toomer has shrunk -- has scanned. And he's been on the treatment now after. For months on -- has had a really durable"...

[0:00]" I'm going to run the risk of screwing up another name enough doctor Andrew Norton I think tying it down -- right. I kind of Allen is it Ron richer Ellie yes Ron nice to meet you as well DOS are great to meet you thanks to -- you. Doctor Norton is a -- on college us. Which is a scary sounding title tell tell us in words that even Michael and I can understand what that means it's definitely not as complicated as it sounds it basically means that I take care patients with brain tumors. Enron is one of one of my favorites. Now what LeBron -- your favorites quote Ron Ron is a very impressive guy. He certainly can tell the story himself but he was first diagnosed with his brain tumor eleven years ago. And out what's remarkable about that is that furlong time people have thought that brain tumors are really hardly treatable. And a cancer hospital brain tumors have the reputation as being some -- some of the most difficult tumors to treat. As I think you'll see when we hear from -- he has denied dealing with this tumor and a lot of associated treatments for eleven years now. And he's an outstanding shape and has really excellent quality of life. He's been through a lot of difficult things but I think that you'll hear from -- that that are really hasn't been so difficult for him he he has just a great attitude. And he handles all of these difficult treatments with tremendous."

[1:23]" Peace and that's a great introduction. -- let's here's story in. Thank you what were your first thoughts when you when you found out she had a brain tumor and can you compare those thoughts then two of which are going through right now. -- obviously very scary reference Condo it you know my talking Ewing said. You know the reputation brain tumors had back canyon. I was only 37 years old and some young kids so was scarier was -- him in myself. And then me angry talk to doctor black over the bring them in the first operation. And things are pretty good for a few years and I had some radiation after rule recurrence of -- way to. And then them. Cathy I was 2005 I was -- I was a dinner -- and I had a recurrence so I started doing some Freeman. This drug content -- an oral -- Which is pretty tolerable. And then on. -- or another operation have shoulder re growth. In -- that they decided dudes dreaming that I'm doing now. Which is infusion treatment but I've had really relatively few -- them."

[2:34]" How how does infusion treatment work. Well basically. Chris Rock Ron has had all of the standard treatments for a brain tumors he's had surgery and radiation he's had that oral chemotherapy that he mentioned. Combo when his -- came back for it for the second time. About a year and a half ago now. -- we knew that we we were sort of out of this out of the usual options. I'm and so we we looked to clinical trials that might be available at Dana Farber. And done we had started a clinical trial using a drug that attacks the tumors blood vessels. Did the goal to kind of this kind of treatment is to work by depriving the tumor of blood vessels that they need in order to grow and and drive. And so we enrolled -- clinical trial where he gets that an infusion of the drug every two weeks basically what that means is he comes into the infusion center and the nurses put NIV in his arm and check his blood work and if he's feeling well and things are going smoothly than they go ahead and given the treatment. As an IV drip it takes about an hour. Come doesn't have beaten any side effects but. In the initial results from other studies suggest that that this treatment is is going to work quite well Ron has. Had an excellent response to Toomer has shrunk -- has scanned. And he's been on the treatment now after. For months on -- has had a really durable response send and seems to be tolerating everything as well as we could hope. Ron it sounds as though as as technology advances has medical advances are being made. You're getting more time and better treatment timing things. That kind of treatment you're getting now is vastly improved over when you started this process eleven years ago. Absolutely."

[4:19]" He found the wind started in 2005 Tim and I think wasn't approved until 1999. What's it now which is two years after my. First operation so luckily I need it PI. Can now back then but. You know that's it's FDA approved you know return. His dear farming now and and his team here has -- A good treatment."

[4:42]" Front it was great to visit with you your doctor thank you very much for coming and sharing your stories it's great to see both of you thank you thank you congratulations on how it's gone so far and -- LA doctor Andrew Norton joining us."