[0:00]" Back here by the big show beat shepherd of the big you know today studio Nazis and a hell he's -- early -- world technology series whoever. Guys oh Victoria and to a larger weather situation there this situation it's good you know the ground is a little light on for midnight. Saturday for some some may be from which to -- and then. Well it's here it's which just pick out rooms -- go up over here yes Dempster was after the disastrous once again zones oh -- mayor and the governor Edward Garland doesn't alcohol absolute gridlock have you Massachusetts actually out really from -- central mass all the ladies to -- the entire state. Other before all right it's positive absolutely great bet but it doesn't want to go high schools well the same time it -- it's -- is my neighbor. Let the 2 o'clock -- 730 from Boston. Which is like seventeen miles out of the 2 o'clock to your home to about three in the mortem but those result of this rumored to companies. Yes it's obvious here are important question. How did people deal win. Nature's calling now it's time eagles you know. Particularly in the bottom of the that I would think thirty stories like that we've given -- and talk about tomorrow dinner. I hope nobody answers your -- while -- hurt -- and I suppose that via -- out of it whether it's on the coming up here 1 o'clock 1 o'clock game but temperature as well as buries the -- with the wind -- about the forty miles an hour. I think that that's got to. A it's a neutral while -- like the world by it's certainly. Projected going to be happy about that -- has to be a factor because you know it's hard for me to envision even an offense that fox uses incredibly well as we once asked what would function that well wonder if -- the conditions you know I don't think efforts of people try to make comparisons between this and that. Net gain the money -- between the dolphins between them -- it's not going to doesn't apply to you don't have us attack -- through your. And effective with feel -- if it's important you know it's frozen in however they get they get that. Anderson come out there it's noble over the that they could really gotten a -- you know have a nice solid surface and as well Jackson on the door I realized that I ESPN today gives -- that cracked me you know it's it's it's a great story that -- that the guy you know made one -- line in the -- promote and that -- every just the -- to overlap of sure it was -- was on the ground. Still in all these all right he gets admire Ron -- spacey says still he says it's funny because because we both laughed about it but right laughs about a more than I'd."

[2:46]" does. Now we're talking earlier about some of their the national priced guys and in nearly the camera gave the -- the jets by the other in and you think is going to be you know the outrage that was brought on but the patriots -- gave -- and and -- how prevalent was this camera stuff broccoli."

[3:05]" Well I think that's what that story does for an isn't it opens up that the idea. That this is certainly not just a patriot thing a lot of us knew that I think right at the beginning. And actually I think a lot of people wondered now okay is third double standard why why so much attention and punishment it's scorn and for the patriots when you look at at the jets virtually -- in the same same doing the same thing ever to do in the same thing. Somehow getting it dispensation to do it when did they do was at the playoff game last year was the regular season game last year against pitchers. Polls are are dealt -- of the questions that -- answering and and it also you know why I've always felt this was sort of a disingenuous. Thing on the part of the jets is because whatever you learned that worked in the system that you worked an inner Mangini learned from the best of how to to football the right way coach of the -- whatever success he's had he he has had he's learn from the master. And among the things you learn for the master certainly was that the that the patriots did not have. A exclusive rights deal doing this type of thing it is prevalent in the league I know for a fact it is and you know this was one or circumstances where for whatever reason he he took joy. In calling out his mentor and in putting is meant toward a position where he got in trouble for. Could be -- he. Didn't anticipate how world how big response will be. -- don't it's. I I've heard that what I heard a couple people within the jets tell me in the last month couple months I've asked that question did -- understand the ramifications of its accusations. And and I I at two different people. Who worked for the jets tell me. He did not that he that he no way did he expect. The elite eight to come out of starters -- it's punishment he thought it would be. More than anything he wanted to discreet in embarrassment he did not accuse -- how -- to the jets the jets were filming. Because people can get it wrong it says in the rule book it's not use any -- year old right to have enhance your position in that particular game yeah that's all about angles it's all about four from where you shoot the video not that you are should be using the -- And and your use of it it which is which was the whole reason. For the league confiscation of all the all the video that the patriots head to where you can conclude okay. Here matters which you have did you use this or did use now you know obviously you're taking someone's honor word is -- we never use this if you edit your possession. Chances are -- candidates again if that's significant use it yet yet but but yeah I think there's I think there's definite. I know what this is all going to lead to an -- this is already talked -- competition committee members. When the league powers that be the owners gather in the in March for their league meeting this year's Florida. They are going to talk there there's going to be a great deal of discussion -- before them competition committee meets down there. They're going to come up with specific rules about -- used they've already put that reinforcement of guidelines in place but you're going to see a whole different -- and you will see. Once a fraud positive this deep threats of player getting a help receiver electronic receiver and how to get one. Means that the murderer -- center and -- my -- to a radio which -- faced with a group reported to have got the ball as it is about I'm about -- beyond its review -- this -- just -- but this line -- last week -- at least admit that the bako -- where were you surprised greatly -- from the -- it's supposed to -- number one -- the parents -- I really I thought it would be much better game yes. But I was not shocked at the manner in which they took that team part I thought the likes all the all ability I'm sure some others did. In -- safety position for Pittsburgh you don't have toward Paul mile and there you have two guys trying to play that position. Who are by nature if you look at it is -- scouting reports team. Over zealous when it comes to biting them play action. The federal cradle him in -- and -- you know I said Tom -- going to have a field day with these guys at least doing that now I also thought that the chances of his having a field they would be at least limited. By some success by Pittsburgh's offense pop in the football in -- place practice Pittsburgh ray and the ball up as the number that is still also starting from that game is Willie Parker's tremendous Dave rushing the football at the other that they would that mean guys off -- they've they ran the ball. With seven minutes left in the game. The -- is as a young coach the team all right in through a couple of days and understand him. Bruce well that that sequence of plays in the goal line when he went -- that we -- a quarterback it has been stopped want yet besides worldwide. It when you're driving the ball in the game you quit you just. Out yeah I IE you're right I didn't see that and and you know but it's still that it did add to the numbers that added to the crushing for -- that was worth. However the numbers were still pretty strong I mean they were effectively making hate running the football I would about it that I agree with that I don't know what statement -- make it when you're doing -- that but but I'm saying -- counter to that hasn't. Presumption that when you saw Willis McGahee in the ravens have that much success in the football all the football right in my game it would it's it would it would you would presume. That that would be the counter to this this patriot offense it didn't work. The problem there is that oh the offense can score so quickly if you try to stick to revenue for three or four quarters eventually this team scored -- point where you have the passed ball. Yeah and and and which leads us to okay what are we see now someday I jet team and you know -- least. Try to run the football what are they they're like. They're there they're. -- nineteenth running football -- that's pretty not agree that's because -- behind early on they they give it right it's also a candidate with Thomas Jones make make a little bit hey. From the very beginning of the game control football. I come out thinking you can do that the quick strikes that these guys talk about makes cents as it always makes sense we talk about patriots but if the conditions are what they are presumably that's the way you're going to. Succeed is pound football lineman in and and and just letting those linebackers try to force you to --"

[9:23]" We have to you have to -- its you have to finish it off would scoring because even if defensively -- of -- offensively you're on the ball against the patriots. Want to give the ball lots of other going to score in -- yet if you run the ball and and outscored Tuesday that Clark do or to settle for field goals. The that's going to be downfall too."

[9:41]" Well it on the line I had about the scheme in my power rankings this week I've felt that count where of course have had pitchers somewhat adequate jobs recruitment for the entire season I said task by -- bill comes due and and and I think it does come do for the jets if in fact the patriots are able under the circumstances to do their usual sports."

[10:03]" Well and that's why I think this this weekend is going to be on sun is going to be interest in receiving with operating reaction bad weather's very good pitchers never lost and in the snow game in nine and though we all know celebrating what race and against the raiders in the blizzard not that and I don't remember before a mile hour gusts -- that game like it's supposed to be -- but we do know the patriots on a -- field. Can throw the football and throw well imports condition."

[10:28]" Are absolutely and and and I think and you guys tell me -- and -- Steve correct me if I'm wrong but from a from a defensive perspective. It's advantage offence to beat throwing the football in these circumstances does the reactive stuff that's the writers have to do. When they lose their forty -- the receiver knows the rod he's running in the pit and of Brady puts the ball where it's supposed to be which he will most of the time that the DP in less he's jumped the route correctly is going to have a hard time getting."

[10:56]" It's much more difficult to react to a move in the make double -- we go and so people always thought about running the ball a back has trouble cutting. What do running because it's so slippery in the in office -- lineup trouble getting movement but as receiving ego laden you know -- go right eleven you'll have figured I'd be beautiful bow. So -- much better bigger advantage if you if you pass the ball it was short medium passing game. And you're effectively and have effective quarterback that goes on -- of the ball you're going to have a huge advantage and that's what the patriots. You know they did against the Oakland before they've done it several times and against Tennessee when it came up via. So how well they will -- jets the fan bat with their blitz -- much more difficult to get put Scotland."

[11:40]" It can be very very tough and and I that's why I say I wouldn't be surprised to see as much as were all thinking weather will keep the numbers down in this game would be not be stunned if the numbers from passing standpoint are impressive. -- both sides but particularly particularly."

[11:55]" That's a very surprised when -- well lots of these quarterbacks play. Scene is bad just 45 year old. Pretty Testaverde in calls comes in plays in and out shines. But it camp that was you can bet that kid from Miami looks like he couldn't thrown at me and him among the league -- what does one there's no bombs have these guys can't read French youngster I'd go back in college got a pretty good career pretty good job saying how well it -- venture -- looks like you're careful outside down throws we're at when he interceptions and eight touchdowns."

[12:30]" I think we're or not a great place for quarterbacking in this league and we'll see what the next college draft provides. In the way of talent you know but it's it's a very I mean if Trent Edwards is able to leave the bills to something to a to a playoff. On that would be like the best news that could happen from from an infusion of quarterbacks in the league otherwise. We're looking at a league very down to position Sage Rosenfels comes out last dying down has has it has it has a big games he's been pretty good all year at -- and you know what he. He's -- to play himself into a huge contract before another football team and that Tennessee -- earlier -- because because because the desperation guys for quarterbacks we know is very high Cleveland's guy Derek Anderson is going to be an unrestricted free agent he's guaranteeing himself over at the very least -- nearly three million dollar tender offer that would force another team to give up first and third draft -- of the -- to match on him or a long deal from Cleveland and they because they've still got Brady -- there so I think the question is there -- a bad read bad cycle quarterback."

[13:33]" Your bets little innocent is cut by Baltimore right that is no quarterback. Yeah of saint Edwards is 12 what what was your period. Edwards was third round second third or off you know meet Steve does well in ruins an offense yeah right at it. And then these these first round -- of -- I -- you evaluate these guys -- at -- the best quarterback actually Brady. Peyton Manning a role ball has."

[14:00]" Back line and but it but you know the stopper -- to -- those names you're mentioning it in terms of Brady and and now -- all our guys sixth round pick and I'd rather have guys draft Arafat's all of while they're not about it it I guess they're not. I think -- very well but but you know as having said that I think it's still the most difficult position. 2222 senate rod because I think you get a lot of discrepancy in organizations over you -- more of the as the great parts of the of the Brady story is there was a universal sense in the opinion of at least three different people. Right including decree by it and they legally quarterback coach. I'm evaluating what he was about and having a consensus decision. Between Scott pioli and and they'll check and knowing what this guy watched I think in an even though they made him a sixth round pick. They had a a true sense of how he fit with what they do now still having said all of that. You know does if if it's not from ball lowest are or what the story of carried out the way -- watch."

[15:04]" All the could have been different. Olympic -- there they would step with -- the united -- and I have been built over and this I don't know about history could -- history could -- would read -- as always thank -- he's -- I'd rather strongly about -- tackle -- Recover without a hotel resting up. The next nudged up Kamal was all the way from where are worried I don't quote that he did write about your checkered record it would -- said guys look -- don't know who argue that. Hey you know like I got that -- of the book. If Fred one big game this week -- the biggest -- week it's one. I is in Cleveland obviously goals rounds and it and it -- back went for -- today divisional round play your last as the Buffalo Bill 22 January 6 1996 on the way back now I just want one memory from that other than 3430 browns win every you know Soledad Kelly throws in the army drug reps this clay Matthews intercepts Kelly at the goal line and the game. But for Freddie your memory of that day. My -- yeah studs on what's the about other than that and I know -- the a lot of things on Friday's alternate line."

[16:26]" Which was well all prevent the -- but you know now liked what appointment of moment back. That was you know deception that recruits replaceable fizzled deeper the -- and he was brewery closed up clinic yes -- would -- would run that -- Freeman righteous ops on the scriptural worn out by three point five. -- drug. I don't feel quite selective field that was always want it we watched on the field right in its smell like you're going to to a -- was yoga position trop while paid -- agreed. I'd overpay but I don't wanting grass it is. It was a war -- all the places though."

[17:07]" Favorite cub bug you know I've seen teams in the past a talk about the ravens here you know lose to a team like the patriot to have their. The wins totally taken -- sales but I can't ever remember would be a ball Baltimore that was embarrassing what they did on Sunday night they're short -- how can he be professional football player 53 from quit like that."

[17:28]" And and that's astounding and and it leads to the that the thought that Miami. Maybe finally gets its first chance to win the game against this ball that's -- is an intriguing game of the weekend you know -- it isn't well this -- and you're right for that reason. I just my theory is they they they unraveled so much in that lost in England. They unraveled so much in spending so much time looking for conspiracy theories to talk about it all the all the focus I'm I'm Howard -- was taken from them rather than a game that they lost. That that I I don't think they've had any interest in players -- and also the something else is going on here guys sub than some weird dynamic is happening. With Brian Billick and its players we've got to go I think brad blistered -- well all right he got he got get forty got an extension last year you remember I don't thirteen and three as to the tournament five mil a year okay so he's he's got a heck of a big -- they would have to -- so Steve bush shoddy their owner. As now according to the Baltimore Saudi told reporters the Baltimore sun. Billick his guy you know wait you know I don't know and I don't think that's playing well with ray Lewis who has an influence on players on the other ones are one as brothers we a couple of ones Bobby Petrino will he ever coach in NFL ever go away. If it was put this way if the same people who own and run teams now are alive and owning teams at the time that he might get a chance to come back. No way what was this up on this is Kalus is the -- You lost this Atlantic team. From virtually from the very beginning with his offseason stuff with -- training camp players were very much opposed everything he was doing -- just -- the way he carried himself and help the -- had a track record art college level of being in the kind of guy that did exactly what he did there was a ball trust factor lot of people question hiring a lot of people thought that you know the first instinct of of Arthur blank is in order was to go with a guy that he really liked in the interviews best that was Mike singletary. And who had a great interview and for whatever reason he goes with the -- who who has comes in with no NFL experience comes in with a whole approach that players -- connect with -- DeAngelo Hall. Confronted him negated -- back to back down to him and and that was -- test and every other player that teams that okay this is it's open season. He was not."

[19:44]" Shaping up appear repeated by Carol what do you get would claim -- his back -- cotton bowl. -- god -- and I said we -- the -- studied in the -- that -- act like a tough -- but he was it was -- dollars usually with Allen was -- yeah he was yelling but it was kind of strange because the way he would -- what you would yell about what he would -- his worst hit because it will more than -- his his biggest indiscretions of that story reported. Is this handling of the whole quarterback thing. -- knowing that I've them the Michael Vick was a disaster but how we handle it hasn't impressed car right yet just the way -- he would throw those guys. Outs in under the bus and and Joey Joey Harrington. Who was you know was in itself -- as kind of a handful but basically Harrington I think kill this guy when when they made the move to they made the move to acquire Byron Leftwich and he pulls Harrington after two wins and goes with language who wasn't even healthy yet from an ankle and."

[20:39]" Rio where there was a summit. And then lost struggle. But it tell is starting quarterback that he's losing his job at a press conferences to -- that it -- it was a report it was a reporter for the Atlanta journal constitution walks up to Joe always has by the way. I don't think your start this week enjoy look there's woody talked about he says I think I think they're going to start left which that's how I found out. -- now. Nothing I'm Eric today's these rumors have -- ability to -- Herman Edwards that began to a it was camp or possibly being pursued by UCLA. -- I've heard it yet furthest thing I learned a lesson yet but I've -- the same thing -- you know is you know guys they're going to consider it kept themselves in an title and -- different from the -- you're right Cameron was his name had come -- from a and the other guy but I think the guy who's going to get the job if he wants it -- now. Offensive quarters -- utterly different. Arguably the prediction on the game this weekend patriots yeah I you know I wanted to just say -- the scoreboard -- Can go to triple figures but the fact is that really think this is like one of those sixty something games. Under normal circumstances the weather could keep it now but I still think. The pats are in the mid thirties and the jets may may be get. Maybe get a touchdown. Over the sunshine game and good weather such -- game that whether this that -- that -- there and it could be sold beyond the record in the seventh like Ireland I would be I would express this presumably it will be one less spectators are going to be any score rival league everywhere. Other than if you're not -- going to be -- everybody's going to be."

[22:14]" That's why Minnesota wild game -- it would -- loans and that's that's a 1 o'clock -- on completely -- buffalo -- really think so well you know that this is not involved -- to a monopoly impatience I would probably that's got -- in of 100 guys that are because I thought -- just -- not a great they should have been awhile where it's that's a tentative or religious it's -- it's a good matchup is he's going to match up -- that was in the I think -- they have a good chance I think."

[22:40]" It again part whether -- I think it has the makings of the kind of crazy because the neither of these the fences -- the law alot to stop no people you don't mean I think it's going to go back and forth. And it could very well have the same feel although that game -- the Caribbean classic the when you were part of that the other demand that it as a -- a lot of -- in this -- Jacksonville at Pittsburgh and I got out what's the other Steelers react after -- humiliated -- will be on the -- might be Charlie -- and and not -- Roethlisberger what he has -- and he hasn't been practicing in so it's going to be the easiest here overall miles back -- I'll I'll always back re autism."

[23:16]" Most public the coach of the game Tom. You're saying we're -- to the appreciate it wasn't what politics that oh. That I lost the game for us who's -- he's a one over his about the earlier on rookie coach -- the past that comment move all of Bill Belichick above camera -- as a rookie you're trying to. Keep things dramas route -- into the final kind of plays you have available pocket and what Smith -- transcript. During that game he was talking trash on the field have."

[23:45]" Two the -- your shirt that you know that. I didn't I don't -- sort of Ellen I was talking about Brady said he turned to the person that wow this guy talking to meet these India. They never thought. -- that Pittsburgh or Cleveland brawl they had another report right try to stop that kind of stuff but there have been Brady said this I was -- remote stretch and yeah I did I certainly that a lot of that stuff we it was it was kind of becoming sort of see that. I also that like affected you know wasn't a bomb. Brady's helmet and I don't that was that's a black area that's cheap stuff you you can't I mean you can if -- you happen and you get back that you open five yet I mean but -- to that blood another level of starter. Have some contact between plays and again it just told me. And as we saw with that with the ravens and -- with the Steelers there's an unraveling that goes on either the the patriots are hobbling you from the beginning. Or your start in the fall apart towards the end that your guesswork I saw that colts game. There was a lot of of confusion and and arguments going out in the colts' secondary in late making two guys were once they picked up on whatever it is that you're doing or not doing it throw you off kilter you see the response by the opponent. I have not seen it on the block games -- whatever it is it's it's over but in these close games the few close games that there have been yeah that there's a common thread and I think it's this this unraveling that's been going on beat forget it all right Rick I've read up on the road we'll talk again next week all right guys look forward to ordered ignored -- realize."

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