[0:02]" Fourth and final hour Dennis and Callahan R conversational Doc Rivers is sponsored by Garrity stone a Woburn Rockland and set New Hampshire. Featuring the deepest lineup of granite limestone in New England was seventh -- examples think stone. I think Garrity. And by your local MVP Volkswagen dealer where you can target the always -- with German engineering power windows eight -- for just 179 a month check out the MV the VW dot com. The 7 -- location good morning doc how aria. -- a minority neighborhood safe to say the video last night's game won't go into the time capsule is a work of art thing of beauty."

[0:40]" Now that you won't have but is that a lot of good things you know I actually. Sort of approach is that in about what a bad game for us in the fact that it was a back to back. You know we'd just played him a week ago even less than a week ago they had another day off you know both times we've played the -- that paid off. And we've come back on the back to back so you know it was an ugly first half and the fact that we fought our way through it in the with the lead sort of could have about the shot the ball hitters make right before halftime was good part competent nor did you know they gave us a lot -- and they gave -- great energy and and -- still up to it hasn't played well."

[1:17]" Yelled -- we always begin these interviews by making you choose which of the positives. You enjoyed for the previous game more as you know which has more -- long term value to the team would that be there bench percent the best performance was -- the pieces 30 prepare."

[1:31]" Defense is beaten every night yeah really though I gotta tell you the best predictor of reasonable probability fourth -- the the deterrent because it's been our staple we've we've committed to it you know we've had stretches. Defensively what we've gotten away from ourselves you know but overall we've been a very very good because he'd better have a great example last -- that -- you're sluggish if he'd fit -- only just the -- give yourself a chance to win."

[2:01]" We we like to say in the fans and and in us you know youth basketball coaches that it's all effort. It can't be that simple isn't -- and you know I know much of defense's effort -- is it more than that you've got."

[2:16]" I was preparation this effort and preparation and you know always say there's a difference between effort and that effort. You know there's a lot of guys who are the coach you hear it all the time the a player is making bad files -- gambling and he'll turn to your face -- apart. Indeed your response you which are not playing smart. And I think in our case right now the defense will work we're playing -- where you are playing hard every night but each game would get better at our park and that they could have the better defensive -- obviously the playing hard is important and you can't do one without the other budget -- to be a good Egypt --"

[2:55]" Is Garnett and or -- Allen they better defenders than you thought"

[3:01]" you know Garnett is you know we knew you'd -- in the -- did so you know are actually -- back from debate debate betrayed their own talked about the dolphins. You know the -- just to have guys who really just from defense in the one decision met and then we have but Woody Allen and -- are have been protested as well. And that you know that's as good -- started is that you can do it by himself and affected everyone else -- pitched in doing their work it also made purple better defender no purpose of our best within the last year now when you put him with Garnett it makes him a better defenders well."

[3:40]" It -- any -- explain something to me I'll -- all of you know the answer this why -- when you watch ray Allen play he looks like in terms of effort and speed. He's doing -- pregame layup drill when he's going to the hoop or pregame shooting drill in terms of the speed of his effort and it has gone by people any successful what is that about his style that makes it look like. He's -- three quarters beat."

[4:00]" Here that restored you know guys these -- about the that you have a great shot. And everyone if you watch you can go slowest he wants. Because -- sensibly when your guard them already formed a stop -- you were you when you're waiting for that. And him knowing that no -- at that -- could always get to the basket. And antidote but it you know it amazes me watch in at times when he tried to the basket no clearly don't want several months you know certainly 5% yet -- yet they get to the basket because the defense is always on its so."

[4:40]" but you know I slipped out of some optical yeah that I didn't understand but I guess it's I'm I'm seeing what I'm saying it."

[4:47]" No it's not and most of the dollar."

[4:50]" A -- as have you stopped to think about what a difference a year makes committee you're goal well we talked -- we'd be talking to you about trying to coach up kids to the NBA level we talked to you about trying to get a patchwork. Team together a semi healthy lineup we talked about snapping a franchise losing streak and now the most negative thing to the most vital concern you might have is -- OGI need to manage these guys minute overconfident -- spot -- a much different this"

[5:19]" I don't -- you know obviously a lot of my friends apparently remind me that I did at the -- I don't think you'd. Think about that stuff a lot you know even last year scored through -- you don't think about that stuff full body did you know. Tim is just deteriorated doubted you were bent and focused on the next job or whatever the test just for yourself but I can tell you -- better in this situation been -- situation no doubt about."

[5:48]" Which do you think you're better coach and young kids teaching them. Bringing them along or coaching establishment --"

[5:56]" I don't know -- and I enjoy both obviously I just going to enjoy the losses -- the -- losses and no coached you know we coached to teach. But we also approached and then in the ocean throws any differently is not telling you -- and so I can tell you which what I enjoy more right now."

[6:16]" I know you you follow things in New York closely as you used to play for the Nixon in other kind of a cornerstone franchise even in their current state of disarray. Did you happen to catch Stephon Marbury is comments. And I'm wondering do you make your decisions on who starts depending on how much dirt they have on you."

[6:38]" I would have to start the coaches expect a -- Yeah probably that was that. There are obviously got mad -- that situation I'm glad about but that's straight you know are bad skiing anything like they had a long time it honestly had just hope it goes away Natalie you know for a were -- does four league. Nor our league is a good lead tell people that all the time ago lot of great guys but we. We didn't you just lost in the negativity of batted and so that's what I don't like other and I hope it clears up the -- what you -- them out but I hope to."

[7:18]" Can you tell us your level of concern when the guys go home at night or when you're on the road and they go out at night is this. Better than average about average when it comes to keeping the coach of the night the Steve."

[7:29]" Oh I have."

[7:31]" none are. At all and I used to worry about which car Al Jefferson was going to -- east in the weekly which yeah."

[7:38]" You know with the young guys. You really word because you know you worry about there influences around them are on the first couple years you worry about just -- with money and time and that would concern me. Every night over the last few years you worried about. You know when you got the late night calls are used to worry what I got laid back -- that thought it was my wife but the chip and last year -- you. Please visit that you worried about those called about the players because it just is so young and it still maturing as people. And they have -- in their pockets. That's that's the lethal combination."

[8:18]" It -- elected talk about a couple young guys this year enough so much off the court stuff but your coaching approach to two guys in particular let's glen Davis and -- and -- Rondo it is a pair about the you to talk Toronto every time he comes off the floor for a time out and don't some than"

[8:36]" though aren't they you know I would say it probably 55% that I do dark times you know the other night -- to propagate pretty early in the in the Indian again -- You know he's he would not have determined out -- you know whatever is but you understood widely went back yet I never. Never -- you know until after the -- do anyway we're always -- and then it is a very emotional player and so you have to -- Jews with -- you know. You want is emotion you want on the play with emotion which one on the the place Marty's got to respect to draw last night that I wouldn't have less than you know you have the showing why that was just bad move -- pardon. Between you have to let it go with him because he -- so down on himself abilities they don't go didn't you take target can play yet."

[9:27]" What what's what's the one aspect that you would like those guys to improve on the most Rondo and an an NB AB does the one thing that."

[9:33]" Well it will -- if he's just let the game come there ya know and understand his role you know when he tries to be an offensive player forces it'd put out he's not very good -- it yet when he -- the game just come they come naturally and then broke through our system that is really good run the largest one of the complete defenseman every night you know -- this -- is -- time -- these parents you know he. -- didn't. With the gamble which put 13. At risk and so he's just been solid you know -- the open depart is also a part of going to come Toronto. We just reputation are -- myself every year the second year and we -- Asked -- the speed up the process."

[10:19]" To Acura here radio color man Cedric Maxwell I think it was 45 games into the season. Already declared -- the second best player in Celtic history behind only bill Russell. Which would elevate him all above Larry Bird that you played against Byrd you know. Coach -- that would you agree with Cedric Maxwell in the out."

[10:41]" I'll sit back and you guys can all --"

[10:44]" And obviously giving him one year. Why August."

[10:48]" Because then I'll -- to have a I'll vote yes brilliantly and I -- I could compare anybody to Larry Bird or Michael Jordan actually playing right now I think that's something we have to wait until -- full body of work to start. In the restart paerson you know simply you know what I would call on the Big Three because like Giacomo would any other naval wish you got to promote itself that."

[11:10]" The -- power the PGA tours can."

[11:13]" Yeah I've been quite that Nomar playing -- instead of -- just can't put -- three one on it would have to play and -- and mostly. I actually put the -- down so but I think we all have to wage guys that needed what Turkey we were playing great right now and -- But -- in the season and 7 with that are go. Furcal that's seven and nor are going to be really dirt and plant our best basketball at the end of the year."

[11:41]" Went with the first lost does come doc. How's it going to happen through the the PGA tour of law have an off shooting night you guys won't does commit to defense defending or how do you think would happen when immense."

[11:54]" Well it to be and if so you know. Obviously that are going to be perfect every night the -- the ball real home being is that they're -- no one expected happened I would say it. Did you think sensibly would be wanting have been just low energy."

[12:10]" And -- we actually began the program at 6 O'Clock asking the following question and will pose to you who loses first the Celtics of the patriots. Now before you add to that you'll have to get through January if if if they go in 19 at all when the superbowl."

[12:24]" Yeah I'm going to after that probably that is to say that. -- go undefeated you know it only 18 days right and I think it and and I hope they do so I'll pick up."

[12:38]" I I think in a way to -- job -- easier because. You don't have to in it works where Belichick committees at first people looking and saying. American listening to a buy into his program but once you start winning doesn't become easier to convince these guys of what you're trying to sell them or teach them."

[12:56]" Yeah -- always said that doesn't fit -- a sort of the last three years you know the first year I thought. Here you it was complete change for the players and they bought into it and members had a pretty good year would although we brought in veteran -- warming Jerry Payton in the audience but winning helps you know I don't know if there's a there's a lot of coaches include me to -- at times they thought we had the right program but when you don't win it's very difficult to sell. And when you win it easier to sell it and then you gotta make sure they stay what did and continue to focus on the on the processes and instead of you know people of the talk about the results later instead of what you have to do now."

[13:38]" final question for me did do you subscribe to the trap game theory in the NBA able wounded team a team of bleeding out like Miami -- in as being a trap game."

[13:48]" Yeah I do out at times that down. But I absolutely believe this occasion where and I really believe this that coach Riley you know they played wade last night and this game coming up well on Friday. If the game that he's going to -- we -- our name for the receive. You know we got weighed that with rejected demons out of the last to change going to be tomorrow for the next two days and -- tourist -- against the -- And I really believe that's what this is all about."

[14:21]" Our -- appreciate the time and keep it up we'll talk the next week. Doc -- Dennis and Callahan sponsored by -- stone of Woburn Rockland and Salem New Hampshire featuring the deepest lineup of granite and limestone in New England with 7000 samples -- dont think Garrity. And by your local MB people's wagon that -- where you can now get the 8 Jeddah with German engineering power windows eight speakers CD and more for just 179 a month check out MVP VW dot com. But the seven locations"