[4:00] ..." cap dollars on Carson -- Chad Johnson view was not a Johnson Willie Anderson -- Jones. And in you know got with the product as a result. But they don't have much respect on the defense"...

[6:01] ..." problems -- there. The biggest reason. For the height six of the Keiwan Ratliff wave which is the highest draft pick -- Jamal Lewis regime has been witnesses second rounder. Is injury in knuckle you know"...

[9:04] ..." run the ball -- the upkeep modesty I have tried to and Kenny Watson. That worked 400 yards in the game for a couple ties with the Redskins. It was some good production 60 yards on"...

[17:04] ..." think. Stacy Andrews her some of those guys have to substitute teach in the offseason though it's offensive lineman for the Bangalore that you help"...

[0:00]" Patriots in Cincinnati Bengals play on Monday Night Football in Cincinnati. As he has done not on several occasions in the past helping us preview the Bengals is the pride of Melrose, Massachusetts in Syracuse University. Former NFL lineman Dave lap on is on the line with a state it's Dillon Michael again how aria. Because I don't bet. Dave dog great I think the last time we talked you last year we Nebraska for a game. I yeah I believe. Others I think you're right Mike. Don't know no where -- got going on college football wise. In the next couple days an extra couple weeks."

[0:35]" Our gut next couple assignments look at Oklahoma Colorado some aren't on on Saturday I should say and then the following week Oklahoma State detectives say national interest in the kept --"

[0:49]" it up -- bit -- blow up. Men they just haven't let that go either I mean I as were talking ESPN's on over our shoulder and their show on at the bar"

[1:02]" I woke up on like that that game my Padilla Texas Tech Oklahoma State game you talk about -- guys that it was it was unbelievable that. I woke up -- now open the paper out and put the the lead story I'm looking for matchups you know what keeps the game and as it is article. Well this -- just. Basically questioning that the -- put -- the former starting quarterback was demoted to back up but curious timing you know. And what Mike and went out."

[1:33]" Yeah we've we've watched a lot of at the last few days hey -- help us out here T. J. Houshmandzadeh was on the station this morning I was trying to remember Michael and I were talking. Wasn't it TJ who after the patriots win last year several everybody knows they're not as good team as we are."

[1:49]" Yeah that's -- At that depth but apparently felt like TJ and I think he really believes that I get I think that's what makes them. -- player that is developed a competitor and never concede. But the reality says acres a -- in the."

[2:05]" Well what was their problem this year Cincinnati's problem and we all saw them some given up 51 points for the browns. And they really missed some opportunities in Seattle what would you boiled down to day."

[2:17]" Well I think the biggest thing the biggest problem at Cleveland. Which was a total fiasco was offenses are pretty good. But defensively. And if they were creating out there are inventing their own assignments they panicked and instead of cover the gap they're exposed to cover. Is set out his -- might need some help but think I'll help him all covered Japanese happens -- start doing that it is crucial word responsibility. And they were running coverages up there I'd never seen before I mean there was breaking -- left -- right it was it was mass chaos and they've been pretty serious serious price -- really. I'm I'm more liberal -- what he does with his deep fences and in my mind of the best because 11 in the league is on the pup list Seymour is for another guy having gulp everybody plays -- role. And their responsibility -- you know at all about trusting this game trust your teammate and be in the right place the right time they are all the time."

[3:17]" It's funny if you if you look at you know a coach like Marvin Lewis has got a great reputation Wheldon served as a defensive coach in and their other guys like that in the league who their teams just don't play much defense and it is because obviously it's all personnel it's not the coaching."

[3:33]" and I think I -- are your team was built from salary cap standpoint look at Brian billick. It goes to Baltimore's offensive guru will -- capped ultimate defects. Almost all over there which is this smart in which -- would be -- but. Wasn't quite enough money because -- as much offense personnel they needed. Is that as the Packers offensive group goes out the window and in Cincinnati it's the reverse. They've spent all their cap dollars on Carson -- Chad Johnson view was not a Johnson Willie Anderson -- Jones. And in you know got with the product as a result. But they don't have much respect on the defense and no Morgan came -- where were the team was built my that was not our best -- went to Baltimore. Or so I think that ought to do."

[4:21]" We talk about building teams Dave want to ask you about that are on a couple levels let's start with Levi Jones that you mention. He signed the contract extension and then he lost his job what's the inside story there."

[4:32]" Well he go given me problems he missed he missed ten games the year before. With that problem in the first -- contract and it's still it was -- on the whole offseason he didn't really participate. Training camp at all. So it won't work on -- played well in it what -- and who's playing pretty. Pretty easily as a tenement left guard left tackle so. They said you know we've very base via when your -- back and would want to disrupt that that well let's go along left side and I have a -- that you know out their commitment portability of 40000 votes from a coach some put. Out there that I feel like count on is going to be there the last agreement and that could be the best chance to win the -- I think. We bucket in the game a lot of in Seattle played well is he seems to be better and better each week practice some more practice harder. That's good -- gives you know I wouldn't be surprised -- start against patriot."

[5:32]" And Dave there's a story I believe it was in today's Cincinnati enquirer about. The draft picks in. Not getting a lot of production out of the draft pick from 200420051 I'll -- want to know what's your your opinion is that the Bengals -- into. Who's responsible is it Marvin Lewis."

[5:50]" Well I think the final say is always Mike brown now it's it's done by. A bunch of opinion of the but he -- there's -- Mike makes the final also like just -- problems -- there. The biggest reason. For the height six of the Keiwan Ratliff wave which is the highest draft pick -- Jamal Lewis regime has been witnesses second rounder. Is injury in knuckle you know Chris Perry injured. On the pup list again this year Kenny -- suspect I'll pick of this draft goes out with a knee injury. But David Pollack breaks is -- well belle province -- suspended two seasons as an isn't vocal and suspended for after the season. And they desperately desperately need ever want to the -- replied back last week in Seattle all three guys went up across linebacker spots. And they didn't they wanted to hear the crank one showed up until -- Tuesday night."

[6:48]" What -- game. And more Marshall they're two weeks to at least we came in Schlegel they're great -- games I mean everybody there has been remarkable group while they're playing side by side by side so David Pollack an old bill I would look at that -- senate would look at third receiver insists -- arts as they couldn't cover Chad TJ they have to click over to. All the state to problem. I have a purpose -- Chris -- coming out of back to a probable it would have been viewed short and aren't purple so. They've really had problems and there are good reasons with their -- elections. The reason or stolen the ascension of the they've put their battle on page two rounds with seven -- doesn't really help."

[7:33]" Dave -- the knucklehead factor been so high in Cincinnati."

[7:38]" question. I do think the -- I think he's learned his -- a little bit. I think part of our compliments and his ability is coaching the possibility in the leaders on the team -- Carson Palmer Willy Anderson and god of that ilk to turn -- loud crowd and to pull them up. And not be -- that -- that pulling them down. This -- factor out there how many leadership the can be Dicey and a I think he's got away from that. Can't save everybody some guys -- out. Some guys never do. I think it's it's just wires and dropped football players each coach but I have more than all the other stuff."

[8:17]" It appears as though Rudi Johnson will not be able to play on Monday. Can the Bengals from the football without him."

[8:24]" I think they're going to have to. The big question is and they handle that patriot defense and as a group I would be if I'm my. My age so why it's -- political. The recognition I watched tape on those guys it's it's amazing it really is how quickly they recognize. Give the right spots. Yeah I'd I'd suspect that is going to be it's going to be a challenge Williams is playing hurt by jones' playing hurt starting center. But I hope for a couple weeks with a thumb injury may try to come back with a couple walking wounded up front. And and that that that report people's patriots aren't run the ball -- the upkeep modesty I have tried to and Kenny Watson. That worked 400 yards in the game for a couple ties with the Redskins. It was some good production 60 yards on nine errors in the -- scored the only rushing touchdowns so. The depth within the ranks only decide he'd -- Dorsey who was let go by the Indianapolis Colts the end of training camp. So he showed up yesterday so that it probably about starting so money it."

[9:30]" And did did you guys released clipped and Dawson. The good Harvard guy."

[9:34]" Yet just did like I like -- a -- 50 you have Fitzpatrick quarterback and Dawson to Harvard guys and not Dawson to give -- go to. Bring beauty Dorsey back. So I was those -- the -- See him go because he was -- it was animated -- not to -- to -- covered kicks -- out due to -- you know at all those awesome."

[9:58]" You tell Mike brown you'll rue the day that he -- Clip that off and leave the queen city."

[10:04]" I actually you know he's going to he's going to Asia. The tight end from -- on the practice squad is going to Harvard quarterback he what you want to -- and then all of our schools so. -- locals not his course yet pat Mac you know at bat back in the days -- about it all is well represented guys."

[10:19]" Dave last year our member. The starting center it was a -- last year the starting grid at every breath yeah he he was hurt and that's a line call problems against the patriots. And Carson Palmer was just coming back -- did look like the same guy this year you think the senator's got to be out again. How is Palmer looked you compared to last year"

[10:41]" opulence he looks light years ahead at this stage where I was last year no last year who just didn't seem like on wrong you know -- He literally didn't have a base in have a foundation and he probably came back and played poorly that you wish read in the read in the reconstruction that took place but -- didn't he he now is fine physically he's in his position at the best shape he's ever been in his life. -- all the ball very well but. They're in nobody's owners Wallace Kirk I I watched some tape on him the other day I thought I was watching Joe Montana again because the 22 to the developing that all those quarterback do so well. They always I think always have to receive Astride. As an epic work -- their -- full speed and doesn't matter who's beat it -- a bit of the mosque if it's welcome of those guys went directly to -- hit on the money out of those guys up at the moment -- I suspect. And I just remember Joe Montana to a -- test in the 80s and -- I do want to. In the 2000 he's unbelievable what is accuracy and timing."

[11:49]" I was gonna ask you what's the thing that you think is keeping track present a hand up all night all every night this week because I mean if you try to take something away. What would it be and Kenny -- it"

[12:01]" this this is as balanced an offensive football. And through I do group are are good another you know another -- actually -- drawn assessment after the -- locals get smoked. In does that weakness I don't probable. Wide receivers -- that might be the best group in the league not to Leicester is being so mediocre. I think it starts with great tart but Triplett wide receiver running back -- it. About about about this -- Kraft -- military. You know you're gonna have to let you. General met manager has executed in the coach just coach them but. Look at the wide receivers they got to make them -- group. In what Tom Brady your biggest asset performed unbelievable decision to make I think the worst thing to happen in the league was patriots element at short. Or Super Bowl security probably winning."

[12:56]" Mike Brown's coliseum why aren't you talking about me -- a pretty -- about -- that -- that members of the media. Were calling it and continue to call it spy -- you're from here you've been around the league you played only. What did you think of the whole build politic camera situation."

[13:14]" Well I can't fathom that it was the first time anybody who has ever trying to that's for sure -- and built military what he does he do the best but he got caught so or try to do best anyway -- yes. I am a -- though and you know."

[13:32]" But the level playing field and should it nothing wrong with trying to get an edge -- but it looked -- but you have to do. Of the rules and I think he took it to -- and I think you know of the penalty that would that that. In some if some people think wait to. Mania I don't know I think you know I don't have to -- they want but when you lose -- number one ever chip but it definitely does. But I I think that the commissioner had suspended built boats -- Like does the players and and -- as a player you network L team at practice she can't do anything in -- ability. -- bill ballots -- not -- it will be around in game Clement. To all the things he does best that would have been -- who wouldn't survive now. But that's what I know a lot of people. -- people wanted it and I don't know what it's kind of humorous yet been built under -- and all the knows all the -- but. -- what is going to put a photograph. Football -- the militants are guaranteed right of the mentality just and and that that that that almost makes you laugh I mean he's got here. Information now that guy's got a computer chip in his head on everything and everybody. The national football."

[14:47]" And I want to ask you quick question about Marvin EP was talking with the press there I think it was Tuesday it might have been yesterday. One of the reporters asked him about Rudi Johnson struggling on Sunday and Marvin come off when he said he said you know let's not go there Rudy did not struggle that's a fallacy while I look at nine rushes for 17 yards I think he struggled did -- didn't"

[15:08]" well he had an argument the other way around it nine yards on 17 Russians yeah yeah Leicester was -- out how -- Kerry and but the biggest reason I think -- Martin was trying to stand and say that topic symbolic of the -- it. Negative yards dispersed an -- homers -- carries 34 minus sharp is making his first cup four yards in the backfield. I don't care who you are you have to make -- make that first cut to make first got messed. We are you'll backfield in America today so I think he was basically trying to say it was -- all -- The running game as a whole. -- was up front and do their job as a result trickle down but he induces."

[15:51]" Are we talked football when you've talked it very well not Dave this is the this is your life segment of the interview. We have an email or who says he remembers you as a substitute teacher when you substitute teaching what was the subject."

[16:06]" I was substitute teacher back in the an inordinate area in my rookie year and oh all kinds of subjects -- social studies. I was hoping this opens ever -- never actually substitute vocational school. One bit of treatment like it looked like I was doing but that's but today it was I have very. -- heightened respect. For teachers what they do and I was glorified babysitters."

[16:37]" Hey this -- email -- says I remember him from a not so great period in my life. That means he made quite an impression on me that day and the intricacies and nobody was messing with him because he was --"

[16:48]" And yeah."

[16:51]" The other -- the one thing I could I could get the class and quiet in what I was about. You know observed some of the other questions substitute some these four girls in there substituted our budget steamrolled the open at the."

[17:04]" think. Stacy Andrews her some of those guys have to substitute teach in the offseason though it's offensive lineman for the Bangalore that you help pay the bills make ends meet that's sort of thing."

[17:14]" Yeah I think I think those guys are what warriors they make it through one contract in there's they're intelligent with the doubts at all or another and their licenses. I -- until some of the guys in the team -- lap lap which. Baylor which made -- first currently at 26000 proud of it looked like. -- they got a -- was back then guys like you're kidding me. So -- is a lot but is that that's the biggest thing I think."

[17:45]" This guy is now instead -- while walking around the -- character guys in Cincinnati anyway talk about the opposition that not so much later about sports center Mark. Did it it is that ratio is now they're competing in a ten dollar and they know that probably try to find themselves no doubt."

[18:04]" Now what other got to have talked to Chad Eaton tell of everything about marketing --"

[18:08]" You're the one man marketing machines right."

[18:11]" Hey we got Boston College football on the air here and Jeff -- since he's doing a good Japanese first year in. You a little personal stake your nephews play it over there as well."

[18:20]" Absolutely Richard welcome the big man can move. Clip from what tackles Boston college's in this is that. A brother Roger -- played up universe -- play basketball football draft you know opponent vehicle and now. He's got a good gene pool. He's he's he's really excited about it. A bigger piece you have seen him a couple of different -- as -- as you know 12 and 111 and other so. In the piece just poised all of -- at number 11 of they keep -- big big could be a top sentiment and the other night. I've spoken about all these -- we -- sure."

[18:56]" They're pretty good a day they're they're pretty fun to watch still."

[19:00]" That Ryan is oh quarterback and I was at all poison and we have the triggerman and you know supporting cast -- something's done it. There are pretty I'm glad to let me hear -- Belgian inspectors well. He's coaching not my nephew Richard. An old Jack pretty darn well know is that Jack senior you can better understand he's going to all of Spain. -- up -- he -- as well jacked adult -- BC Altman."

[19:32]" Dave it's always fun to talk football -- the end and let -- Be heard by the folks backing era home -- it's great to -- to visit with the again and best of luck."

[19:40]" You know Michael I appreciate the opportunity and a thanks but I really enjoyed it."

[19:44]" I thought that -- That is Dave lap on former offensive lineman"