" when he birdies -- at the Stanford got I don't know how long about twenty years is so Sweeney."
" Well I'll bet that they separate sixteen. But covering Munich he's from the moon."
" I knew was a long time because I was I -- Well there are. No no screw him he's -- he's out of business. With what you we steal everything. -- week ago we hope that Helena finds out or the fact that if we don't we just just keep at a Deere hat though connect. As best you can you cover the Yankees you've been -- the -- we're having a discussion here Sweeney and it and I think it's a valid one. About the legitimacy of the the gold glove award for a number two Derek Jeter. What are your thoughts ran off the top your head about to the fairness of him getting an award."
" Well I thought he would improve defensively this year. Downfield accurately we've won the award. I didn't think last year and there was news. I thought it definitely increases range. From last year if you can sense of the that the tribunals but. You want itself the -- for the award I think it's flawed. We talked about the way it's important for the -- managers and coaches. Who can't vote for their -- players but right to think that it's -- But. You're talking about with the unbalanced schedule it's hard to have to really get an idea of of the -- recently -- it barely got admirable you're yankees this point royals. A week second week in April. And they didn't even in the rest of the year well if there was something that can -- him go well we can kind of both those guys have read anybody's you know within. We wouldn't recognize that yeah -- at the same goes the other way it will look at the Yankees. The awards mostly you don't know you know what it is he would want it with more if your computer your going to be considered. And it does not ignored Jeter had actually knew what that investors that -- defensively only made eight errors definitely."
" Now how much that was -- when he was he helped by the the guy at first base who could catch anything thrown anywhere near him."
" Yeah that would you know what though and that's. That's the -- side of bed in and interrupt but I mean I can't tell -- he would have been twelve were calling yours. If there was somebody out that was the only thing Jason Giambi could do okay group all -- Wednesday."
" I let -- let me ask you this because you know we're we're we're this discussion we're having here we've been educated on the range factor you say his Rangers improved and it on the numbers that I have for total chances for Jeter are way way below the rest of the competition. For for about the ceremony games and and I I've said he shorthanded when he gets -- gets to the ball but might I maintained that he doesn't get to a lot of balls and those are called singles."
" Doubt that there's some of that no actually got better at this carefully and not know what may appear -- major you know cause for concern I think a lot of people in the organization. And this year he was improved and he could involve up the middle dialogue conversation in the killer. The yankees' first base coach. And he's also there infield instructor. And I had a long conversation in the second season he told me about -- the first. -- which are when he broke down the only places everybody. In spite of spring training. Workout well if these guys both book and lobby can opener of the middle infield. And wonder no one that they they had to work steeper angle won also -- and it'll and that's what people always say we'll look at there was another single. But he -- get a better job of that this."
" Yeah I I pitcher would not respect I see him go into his right and making that jump throw the Roger Staubach quarterback throw refers to. And it looks so great -- everything in its spectacular looking thing when it works. But I a lot of those balls they they just get -- mean overall you know I don't know the range factor -- last of the top ten we take candidates for the -- glove. As far as overall range factor and isn't it. Army should and shouldn't that be considered as part of an I guess I'll ask you this way do you think he's a better defensive shortstop then that Erica --"
" I you know that they've output that -- you actually and looking up some numbers back up watched him during -- Fiat and while this discussed fantastic. And you don't get a chance to meet the these guys are out of you know really got in the division and -- put up on your baby. Actually let's let consequences might it would be 66. Attempt it yeah I'll watch it yeah. In the playoffs but that got fantastic to look up -- numbers it double plays in the errors. Total chances which sellable pop back up -- As. That's the standard in the league this year but get a perception yeah yeah. -- you talk about those all these numbers we're talking about. The -- were voting that don't. Don't look at those means that -- look at some. The errors numbers but it's not about -- and coaches were going mostly top of their own perception -- it. When he can make it say they don't watch football writers were -- able reward their breaking down every aspect of that."
" It's probably safe to say that these coaches and managers where they don't seeded team head to head they don't see the games at all."
" all out and you're seeing highlights a lot of times you're basing off about the lessons well and and again. The decrepit but that out but Derek Jeter was was very good -- defensively. But what makes great play it's going to be on the web -- at. -- probably got it Eric I bark quite as much as he Derek Jeter doing it and you'll the I I that the perception is everything you remember that. Opt for well maybe 1012 years ago win a popular Palmeiro. Was out the Ph.D. she's -- wonderful -- respect."
" It's a joke it's a joke it's kind of like the All-Star game and a different way that's a joke to. And that's obviously the popularity contest about -- there -- the team has more attendance at home they're gonna have more All-Star votes and and it's a heart --"
" The -- because more lined up briefly what the other factor they use now the other ballot player out there. About these disliked reserves -- so it's become a little more equitable that this is really -- Hold any place ill -- coach -- see how they go about voting. Political what the process is while I don't -- a lot of these guys that are you know probably guys who -- is going to stop the world lines."
" Well based on this now another he we have a fraudulent. You know gold glove -- Jeter he might be -- of fraudulent MVP of the league -- is now there."
" I I again I would be proud of like W that I think it'd -- year I don't think he's the of the PL security of the page they'd ever since August -- let's -- or can't in the twins really take. I thought it was his award to move -- clearly that didn't happen. I think that children aren't going to flood --"
" I can I -- the -- here you know we're Boston average CRV obviously hate the Yankees. -- yeah but yeah I'd like completely admit that but do you know when it gonna talk about summary like Jeter it's my. I maintain that. He gets a lot of more credit than he may deserve -- stuff like this because he's on the Yankees because of the rings. Because he's handsome. Because he's Derek Jeter he's clean cut -- got all let's clean image cone and Andy did the particular stage he plays on his so grandiose. But there's a lot of people around the league that say you know all Elvis Andrus --"
" Right in you know it out into the Texas Rangers on some of -- baseball on fox Saturday afternoon game you know that's that's going to be able to factor to -- you know you're. Again it's it's not very. Equal process because don't know how much thought how much he would actual research is going in on everybody's basis Q you talked about all the coaches."
" That's that's good practices outlined here. -- that's a very good point I mean. I you know being around you know Kevin -- around via the coaches and managers you know that I don't even think they they want to do this right and and a lot from yes. -- makes great play and it makes our web -- at 12 o'clock. They see it if the west and big game but they are you know that guy. But web -- I made by you know there it's spring -- I mean if it's a great place going to be shown in -- they -- you know I don't know but I don't you know this guy is must be pretty good -- to play it while I might be the only play makes all year. I don't even know that those coaches and manages really that listed in. In voting in May not pay out right down the shot is named Derek Jeter and I enjoyed. Let out -- A whole lot that aren't just up the Boston -- manages and -- manager and coaches coaches do show."
" Look I'm -- crew of maybe four years ago it was a series in Yankee Stadium. With the Yankees and White Sox what Aaron Owens made one great player after another. It would mean not that he's good center fielder but I guarantee. -- coaches voted for Aaron -- was so we'll debate of for the sport games and so on August of."
" That's a that's a very good point I think a lot of the voting is done on that he had that we had a four game series in July -- it was great the second baseman Mike -- catch whoever right now -- my I don't."
" Something it's gonna be fresh in your mind to appeal to these guys aren't stupid I don't look at that -- they they know good baseball players. Either they know guys probably didn't -- they probably get up and -- forgotten more about certain players and."
" Yeah I'm Jeffrey -- auditors say we don't get the -- that Terry Francona said didn't. Give me the steps of all the plays that I have a chance of well now we've got to go on memory and what he saw what is on --"
" And those guys are gonna step but you'll occasionally those you'll -- what you -- is not gonna match up with the stats and that's what the inequities all local globally."
" Yeah because -- he won one and 06 and it to me there was no question. That Alex Gonzales was that much more spectacular shortstop -- Bernard 44 days so. Or whatever -- the reasons are that you know win the same reasons I I always thought to guard Brooks Robinson should be the third base. Gold glove winner. Are the same reasons I think Jeter shouldn't because in my view he's never been the best in the league at shortstop he's been the best hitting shortstop he's been the All-Star he's been a hall of Famer. But he's not in the best fielder ever."
" Outside of that stuff it it. It might be more fair now that it was. 830 years ago because he had what one game a weak on national TV right back out highlight chilled every night. You know -- Have got a -- on what they saw you know all air and I think you know. I think value we have a little bit even though it is still little book and -- because now. -- like you might see them but that you get a lot more opportunities to watch your own eyes locked they didn't."
" Here's a classic is a classic example of though -- Jeter gets the -- gets the pomp and circumstance in the height in the it all three in the same game. Pokey Reese and Derek Jeter made plays on the exact same ball to different ways Jeter. Because he got the later break. Read over there and and ended up having to dive into the stands basically to stop the -- spectacular play yeah I don't bloody everybody would all like body such a breath don't know look at this guy he's going to understand it well. Pokey Reese same pop fly ran over there because he was quicker. To get there made the catch standing against the wall okay now no one ever ever talk about the pokey Reese catch yankees stay here."
" You know what there's a lot because in those like positioning in like the angle on me I can't say I don't remember the book read by talking about -- gave up obviously Arab member you know that if you want but I mean. You've got to prove to me that those are the exact same pop up and neighbors stating he's actually spot. I I don't know you can do that."
" Yeah Reese made the catch didn't go into the stands -- over there may -- you know the if you get you have to go back to that -- but the reason you remember obviously the Jeter play just as you've seen -- a thousand times cents. And and pokey Reese made the catch without died in this I have ever seen."
" Allison nice play by pokey that was my door -- by -- do we know about that they the rate at five foot speed to get to that point with the rail layer and everything. -- it develops a terrific play by -- have been the outcome."
" Oregon and about -- poke your resource a couple of problems. Is the utility is so we're not talking about some options yeah."
" And it illustrate correct -- illustrates the range factor because. In order to make that same play into his credit Jeter made the catch it."
" Here's the point -- always made about Jeter and actually the people I've. I talked to probably. Have it. Need disappoints me about two is that you've been talking about. Italy percent isn't gold gloves in this. Why you would actually look at it when there is what is you know too well. And there's crowded in the on the third time we're the third base. -- that you want the ball hit to. It's you know there's lots of things but getting the ball of this and that but what they got not going to in you know make the best out of it. Wants the only tool we know shorten them up. What -- the most situations. And that's that's the perfect popular and that's debt and that's Eric G pat Garrett I agree as an upgrade not what about that always spot. What it's ball but he didn't get -- the other -- doesn't. -- I can you'll shall we -- can't. Helio lot of gave the Yankees walk because the place Jeter made yet -- the game yankees lost because the police didn't."
" And the down that the fact that Saddam young he's denied doing this for so long. And you end the Iraq I mean obviously everything is sunshine and roses now since you won the World Series and you know hats off. In all that but on that on the rated today down there was any discussion I'm sure -- this came up. Where there any doubt as I mean I'm sure everyone's happy -- Derek everyone now applauded at that call the station. But did anyone bring adapted it to the degree that we are here in Boston tonight."
" On a single idea I didn't. And that was our topic today you know did little physical half month don't let. Let you know irrigated -- it bought that."
" It that would be kind of cool actually we're about -- only get lip gloss over that bus. It would be that when you know there's nobody is gonna pick apart these things more than me appears Sweeney. -- And beat the Red Sox -- by my Yankee tickets wearing nothing but Red Sox boxes -- and I had to get a I had a police escort because there were people wanna throw crap that meet down there. At the box office I got a Yankee tattoo on my -- from the 96 World Series that I lost. I grew up in Connecticut myself my best friends were Yankee fans at least a fight and beat the crap out of each other every day. -- yet so it's a big painful thing for me but I do respect Jeter I've said many times on the air he sees he's a hall of Famer quite obviously. You know he's -- these are good player and that and that all these things he -- on a regular basis don't include being a gold glove fielder that's all and that's really what on demand here."
" And and I like you know we talked ease. You'll obviously you as soon as he's one of these awards not to take those away but. You know -- go back yeah idea of field with actually the best fielder. You know. You've got it good computer sort of validate who got a good a -- you're not going to play there every day. Point time where you could get to twentieth vehemently shortstop definitely right he can't do that in. What's the kinds of great fielder but -- the good hitter is complaining about -- when you towards your left you'll. That the -- the great shortstop are playing anymore you've got the guys who with a great hitters who happens to be good shortstop it -- Arnold got to. Play a 160 game two -- the better bigger. It because it got to play because he was a better hitter right you'll be that short partly."
" Yeah well I mean a stunt and I I agree -- on that point because because you have to have the opportunity in order to have the of the award. I I so I."
" I notified people all -- slightly although. If you're hitting 300 and you're slightly slightly -- apparently got with 220 guess who's getting the just."
" I still say though that there's at least four or five guys that bid to serve you were more than Jeter as far as the fielding goes you know how it and helped by the way he has enough towards don't you think."
" I don't like I said I would have -- that's also again you'll based on on my biased about. About refuted just recently in the ALCS. So otherwise I probably would need about PayPal would dumped out of."
" Well I mean Alexi Ramirez had a hundred more chances at shortstop in fewer games than Jeter did -- I think. Again -- you know you can't make an error on a -- you don't get to period end of story so that that's -- that's kind of weren't dropping off on this but -- want to say somethin'. If they had awards for diligence. And their professionalism. In your line of work you would've won one by now."
" Why you know what that that's very -- I appreciate. If you want maybe you want bail maybe a -- to convict one of those who would look at the Italian villa you don't know the people would do a piece of cardboard like it."
" But I will be the Marconi award David -- the bell body with Steve -- I don't know what a sweetie Deseret joining us tonight. You gotta catch up have a government Sweeny Murti of the fan in New Yorker who covers the Yankees. And he doesn't even the should be the gold glove winner."