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Thu, 13 Aug 2009

Dale and Michael talked to Theo Epstein about moves that did and didn't happen at the trade deadline, the recent controversy surrounding David Ortiz, and everything else that has passed over the GM's desk this year

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" Joining us on the line is the general manager of the Boston Red Sox Theo Epstein may -- I don't it. That -- pretty well and I'm kind of curious over the course of you know trade deadline it's always kind of hectic for you anyway but it almost seems like from the middle of July to the middle of August is -- about his hectic for -- as it's ever been here."

" Yes it right up there is. You rather hectic work at it. That in years but it does pretty -- great game. That there. We better. At least one roster -- to yet how the body -- team. Playing worst than we normally play at a bad time in team in. Things were -- a lot all the world but we're really looking for what I hope we. The game and now wrote about the ability. -- And when things start to go wrong all in time in. Yet destabilize and hurry in the American League east is going no margin for error and you'll be eating it compromise. You reached the instability there."

" you're pretty active in the during the trading period union picked up Victor Martinez you picked up Casey Kotchman. There was a lot of talk about Roy Halladay were you ever in on Halladay than you ever think that you're close to making a deal for him."

" And arrogant as we -- close but we were pretty aggressive and we actually made. A he would offer. Several pavlik offers a one on the arm lopped off her. Most aggressive. And that they've warned that line and he. Bad news you know -- as by the best offer he would receive. The that it wasn't if you look in the get blown away and in all flat -- Really aggressive but it didn't work out that you know I think it would have been hard and make that trade. In the division made the use -- about. We we certainly at all we candidates as we did. The other from the teachers. I'm home match of the -- you might know Q they -- and it's been out I I would ideal world outlook that a bat in the starting pitcher."

" And you said you got a good team and obviously you do -- and -- the playoff mix here but do you think you would have been able to walk down Brookline have. Without smiling if you had. A front three of Halladay Lester. And Josh Beckett."

" Act -- factories are fine but it. Reasons why rated but now and knock -- in a country like that you know it. They usually think it cures all -- that doesn't when it -- do you you keep them healthy and effective it is used --"

" The only your experience. Has it happened in the past where some of -- the work that you did around the trade deadline even unsuccessful work. May have laid the ground worker or pave the way for possible offseason moves."

" up sometimes sometimes you know it can happen that way directly you read all on you know winners and bird you know get on -- more frequently. Use the information indirectly -- you know what -- aids. We talk they're. Two and we engaged seriously what they it doesn't mean now. The most doesn't mean we have much better idea for who they really value her arms as we have better idea -- you're going to move what they're looking to do it. It is is based on the spot in the discussion. What did its best to move money if it becomes money now these in the that that information is really helpful in constructing these plans are. --"

" Went into the decision making process yesterday to not appeal Kevin Youkilis -- suspension and begin serving it. Last night."

" The number different factors and -- first and foremost there are strong. Indications. Contact then and other sources that there's suspension would not be. -- what you're hearing that they most most he tried to answer helmet you know that. And the first time offenders them. -- horse. Like he -- And their aren't factors that. You know to help. Overall the club that that we. And then mentally our players went on the minute there that I've been off on the not that we. Felt like you know actors together better."

" That strategy you -- but the last time we were here for an afternoon game there was a bombshell. David Ortiz finds out from in New York Times reported that his name is on the list the list that we talked about a lot from 2003. While we know how David I handled the situation. How do you handle it one of your players it's the first time when you're active players has been on the list Manny Ramirez is on -- but he's not your guy. How do you handle that when you went how did you handle it when you found out that David was on there."

" But. I think it and he's a player is what. How well you know wired David -- you know really well. No it help through and and we know his position on steroids against there. Haven't talked about a lot of years ago. -- the first thing you do it. Go to the fired. You know that you don't know. Get it out of that and it hurts the it's incredible story you believe and you'd -- offers support and now. You know -- what he went when he told me at the beginning in and it would be that look. I -- the support. -- me you haven't taken there right. Want one now what packet that the art of or any departed union -- that was on it unit that do hopefully tomorrow. At about my. -- in the answer requested. And when a player does something like it is. It is refreshing -- in the normal response in normal pressures. Beat a player -- hide behind excuses or some sort of will be able. Used not to address the question at all when a player tell you didn't do it now want to find out. That they let the absence for united is that I want answered but in the -- and I think. It is hoping you'd be able out the next day. We are hoping you know and -- not taking more than a week. And days that they. That was you know David role that not all things that are well."

" know this is not Little League you're dealing with grown men but it is a billion dollar industry or more. Do you feel as a general manager. Do you feel comfortable asking players before their name is even mention. Do you have you taken performance enhancing drugs you believe it or is that not the protocol. For a general manager in place."

" I think it I think it is there's reasons act that buyers. -- only obligation. But I think that if there's no there's no reason back. It would not be appropriate ago wired wired wired wired. -- and again it was complicated there around on the everything -- years. We know that no. -- wrong there."

" I was curious when the move was made and then after you made subsequent moves it kind of made a little more sense to me. Hindsight being 20/20. If you've been more confident about being able to acquire Victor Martinez with the Adam LaRoche deal not have been as important to -- as it was."

" Well the low road still let the let it -- And package beginning. First base unlike -- created India or Kotchman. Is controlled for two more years beyond -- here is also younger center on. Oh. And we had an idea at the time -- vehicle -- that LaRoche deterrent Kotchman. In new there's an interest in the Braves now part of it but yet attic which actor -- Certainly that was an insurance plan if it weren't able to -- the bat and we knew that -- you would know whether we -- Victor Martinez on our two before the deadline. And we didn't want to end up and he ended in the road we got someone who ended up being our bat we're -- that you know and I can. In the way -- let them are. Well new music is in the -- we it and not getting that only better about that line. We deprive -- amid the -- and two more years old and younger the better well. --"

" talked in the past about looking at the back of guys baseball cards and and that's probably the the player that that you know this guy he has. It's easy to say that when you're going through a stretch of 31 consecutive scoreless innings is it hard to keep with it."

" Well I think. You know I think that argument accused or -- the most rational and leave the most irrational things and it is the ultimate the you ain't no matter who we are now -- its -- that Billick dinners or did it and you turn around other game is now 75 or Spain you went out tactic out there is that if possible or forget that. You know it up all over the ground ball hit a flop audio run. Off -- but I think that -- I'd like to think -- of the organization and the -- off the bat yet -- and possible. Baseball you can go to where pain in the end the game is best understood. Of course under these games the course of years really. And at best enjoyed nose and dated spending and very one ending. -- Like are strained your emotions there. Ability to understand their team in the game."

" You lost six games in a row between Tampa and New York. How one loss in thirteen innings to Tampa one loss in fifteen innings to New York. I'm sure there are many moments and it was speaking of those 28 innings in those two games there are many moments we disagreed with Tito. There are moments I disagree with -- goes I'm sure you did at some point. How guys handle. Disagreements or what what do you do when you say yard T know. Dammit why do you do this -- how how does how does that dynamic play itself out."

" Well there in the interview process. In -- views on the job at all. Bat in what that the you know. That they work that you all -- well. And one at that I want that -- where. Were it not. Open on an actor in. What actors do that -- Or trade you can only wide act you're on the net. No art yeah. Each -- and he completely agree meet -- the -- that. Beat you -- 24 hour rule or I don't -- but not that found out now is -- the talk. Indeed spelled out in -- and on top of the city in. -- it right after the game is too much. -- Rich beyond you know usually the next day talk about the thing in you know -- you know he has always rational explanation why he did. When he and I I end up agreement and that and one disagree. You know -- just want to hear it used again and on time -- out there or not they can beat doctorate in the year out you know what actually. You know. How what occurred it in the organization and move -- ago or is it night at the end and we -- You know I would agree with and but I do know that even been that donors there'll always well but now. -- In the there was a lot of preparation. That it's."

" So you found out that 24 hours was probably best what happened he scored cure -- of course."

" Yeah we support each other and -- Slip right through it. -- and throw in the game and worldly feel about blatant you know. The what's of reasonable expectation for Red Sox fans concerning Daisuke Matsuzaka for the rest of this year."

" You know I don't know -- Arctic happily it is they've gotten so -- in in they had in the mean -- in Hamburg and that. Year. All we know of ours that. You and but aren't that in it -- here every offseason but the -- he would in the best shape he's been in the red. The off. He gave up off the awesome wait. Scores in much better condition in mind ever been -- Worked in art and without restriction of the -- arm action back. -- Long off. On line. Under the ball and well in. Fish all all on deposit so far and -- think you know. Some of the adversity went through in. From the comment publicly apologize. And -- can Arctic or better I'm. Going forward certainly worked hard. In. So I don't know what it means but I do know that in the in the pros side. In the end game here. In the game on and on. Buehrle. Amber I wouldn't rule out at all in them back -- help."

" It does there come a point fairly soon where you almost would rather have him. Here doing this stuff so that you can see him and Tito concede him and John Farrell can see him."

" At some point yes -- The environment in Fort Myers really conducive to use machine yet -- It's down -- and he's been able to make an awful lot of -- now there's so I think we like. We like where he had not you know wanna hear -- making. Rapid color it progress now. Certainly benefit from the."

" I'm sure there was some emotion involved when he gave his interview to the Japanese newspaper but when you. Thought about his comments was there any truth than anything he said was there. -- did he have a point that caused you guys to. Reevaluate and analyze. How he was going to be used."

" Now there there's not being the only thing new about that that -- public the first week we try to do and the players who -- any issues that -- But that limitation there back. Or opportunity in batter though that something we've been it would that it -- moderate you know we've been talking about the or we actually I'm. In the negotiation. You know there there are two different approaches. The approach. Trading in the approach. -- helping me that he used -- and actually need and that the he payments a -- ended the approach. Be adopted -- this. Game. Out the an effective and there you -- point. For which those two approaches. Represented or -- We've gone through. Period where we compromise if -- Mind our program very odd -- and you ought to do and I don't want to get too much speed up -- it's represented. If he would issue that we that get through and work work through it and noted. Ordered to move forward progress. And -- and we struggled. It has been it was dealt with by. Closed doors and that I think he actually and the effort that continue to be buying votes -- old and all the reporters got out. And but I think it was I think -- on -- they did let him back here quickly have a very open discussion about what happened in. Any lingering issue that and been off all -- TV is meeting. On. And make it -- Arctic and in and out there and all of he responded the right way."

" The I think we've talked about this before and in a previous winners interview last year or the year before and it's that if I've been critical view and in one area specifically has been the the handling of the shortstop position through free agency whether it's renteria or. Julio Lugo deep do you look back at that and say. Are we looked at certain things. When it comes to free agency maybe we see something we perceive something at the strength and in retrospect. Something we perceived as a strength and are at at and our evaluation. Actually wasn't a strength at all mean -- you go back and actually look at."

" Regular evaluated them that that option."

" That prop. Now. Our nation in batters and this. Matter yet -- out there it. Aren't they ought to. Respect shortstop for politely it's not fair. It ended day. Short short stop that we at. On the field -- Excuse in the World Series. For sale -- In. That baseball though it is that that certainly get it there it looked out yet. That the one that this and update -- I -- we respect the news. -- It didn't work out our news there where in the first game that are physically. There's there's probably yet. Bet that the land deal and moved on and yet you you you learn from Matt. -- Change their helmets and what you look forward. That often not something -- that always all rot. In the exact time. And it -- Lugo I think the biggest flaw with. Whether or. In the -- at eight and we're pretty realistic about what. Lugo as -- The biggest mistake we made a that we try to avoid. -- we let ourselves in the position where we didn't have any option. Yet at this open. There there's -- sort stop. We market that year ago we were horrible let this is weird and that at that. -- We you know not there and that probably should have in acceptable. That that that the way it would be active. You know we try to land in the span. But it five years in advance it and -- it's impossible to cover all your positions in all but that. It would injuries and it was expected performed. At every position covered that the goal and don't usually -- right. -- happened let we let ourselves in this needed. And in now."

" We always appreciate the opportunity to talk some baseball -- you thank you for taking the time at bat and hill yet."

" One more question for you we always get a quick question we always get this with Theo is Theo had been with the organization. Would he have made the Josh Beckett trade."

" I think it yeah I actually. Never -- battle line. -- cornet now that they that that and make it worked out. Well for both -- you know obviously -- is about to be players in the game. Right bright future. Josh Beckett year. It is. -- It that won't work out certain laughable."

" Headline Theo Epstein says absolutely I would have been."

" they'll adapt to an air pollution that is Boston Red Sox general manager Theo Epstein joining us."

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