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Sean McAdam & Peter Pasquarelli, Red Sox Pregame

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Sat, 8 Aug 2009

Joe & Dave talk to the baseball insiders about David Ortiz's steroid situation before today's game.

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" Thanks to our they that I have I shot McCadam of the Boston Herald but foxsports.com. And Peter -- rally from ESP and the gentleman. Was David Ortiz credible. Peter well I think he was I mean who knows that at this point meaning he sort of just closure rises hope the thing is over he doesn't make a big mistake because -- The whole issue so cloudy it's so unclear everything's in decisive nothing is public I mean it's all. Speculation and and I think he did well I thought he was believable and having the union near next -- I think he added to his credibility."

" Yeah I thought so too and I agree with Peter you know there's no way of getting to the bottom of this unless you yourself happen. The test results I think that all of this stuff has become. One big impressionist painting and you can look at it and interpreted. However you wish depending on your own perspective. I bet if you went out in the stands today and ask Yankee fans -- have them. Look at the videotape of the press conference thinks that you know can't believe him and if you talk to most Red Sox fans -- get a 180 degree different perception. There's some question Jonathan US the very first one of the press conference today that still I'd like to hear an answer to and why the time delay in talking about what he may -- to yeah and and Michael Weiner the incoming executive director of the players association sort of answered that in -- in addition to David himself saying that. You know we wanted to talk to David. There may be some legalities about what he can say. Clearly. I think he took some advice. From the players' association. To not say too much until they had an opportunity to sit down and maybe give him some parameters about some things he could address and others that were best left alone so. I I think he would have saved himself. And probably the team. The business of a distraction for about ten days if he said nothing more than. I don't know what I tested positive for. I don't know that I tested positive. What I do know is I never took anabolic steroids he said those things today I think he could have said the ten days ago without violating anything -- union was -- and I agree."

" Peter did the union have a chance to destroy the evidence from the testing back in 2003 before the government seized it for the Balco investigation -- this thing -- on Broadway legend has it they had about a four day period in which they could've destroyed the tests and had every right to destroy them. They didn't. And why they didn't who knows once they got subpoenaed to material obviously they couldn't do it at that point. I guess we'll never know the answer to that it's another one of the mysteries involved in this whole subject."

" And Michael Weiner address that after the press conference. You know once more why not destroy them immediately and not leave yourself open to this sort of government's seizure and he said there has never been in the in recent history. Any precedent for the government seizing private. Drug records from any private entity so we had no way of knowing that this was a possibility which that to his believable. And -- both of you because you've both been around David Long time. The like ability factor for David Ortiz how does that play into the sympathetic view or non sympathetic view of most baseball fans on this topic. I think again Dave I I'm more I think I get back to it depends on your perspective certainly he has earned the Goodwill of Red Sox fans. Over the years not only for his performance but his personality. He's he's this outsized. Outgoing guy with a big smile that everyone wants to like. I suspect again that within the confines of the Bronx and New York City that that doesn't mean for much but. It certainly does when you look at say the difference that A-Rod got who I think he's not like even nationally and people were less willing to extend the benefit of the doubt. I think if you are neutral if you know something about David Ortiz and his personality that placed his strengthened you more likely to Cottam."

" Peter where we go from here. Well I know I'm going to watch the game today and I don't know. I just I don't know I I imagine names will keep coming dribbling out unless they've been scared him to not leaking anymore. But now. I have to think that is that they'll get leaked out it's it's you know the timing of every every league has been significant I mean. They -- it was leaked right before spring training and Sosa was leaked. Right around the World Series in. David Ortiz was leak rate before the trade deadline and it solidly you know. It's obviously someone who has an agenda or what their -- is who knows it and not know who it is who knows. And so I expect some names come -- right before the playoffs start you know I you have to think that's going to keep in doing happening in. I imagine -- the response will be the same as it's been in you know it just. It just drags on and it looks like it'll never end -- you'd have to hope that sometime in court this on its subtle but I think pupil all the watching games from nursing homes and that happens. Well certainly this has been out tough series as tough stretch for the Red Sox show on and getting over to baseball in the brief time we have laughed. When they go from here."

" Well you know the they need better starting pitching not better than they got last night because that was another superb performance from. Josh Beckett but once again we're back to the offense Joe. In two games on this road trip. Jon Lester and Josh Beckett have combined to pitch fourteen innings in which they have allowed one run. And the Red Sox have lost both those games now they were they were up against good starting pitching with the excuse me with Matt Garza against -- and then again with -- burnout last night. But it seems like you know it's a classic case of the team in free fall when they -- they don't pitch him when they pitch they don't hit. And it's kind of ball falling apart at saint Peter I know you're hopeful -- you look at the Red Sox and."

" They making get out of this they can recover from Owens yeah it's all relative immunity they may be in a freefall but there's still the wildcard team today and I mean. -- still two months left and and you know out. I just think it's an organization and a and a and a roster that this isn't going to fold under the pressure. And the managers not going to let that happen is awful lot of good players there who've been through a lot worse than this -- you know. It's my expectation they hang in -- the rest of the way and mean you know whether they win or whether they beat the wild card I don't know I don't think Texas is going to be a factor in the -- though they are today. You know Tampa -- the club that everyone points to that if the rest -- and Wakefield back in the next couple weeks and and they can get lucky with one of their. You know you know supplementary starting pitchers I think the lineup starts hitting they -- get paid back healthy and swing in. But you know to -- this too many players out there who winners are going to let this thing the ball completely apart Peter pass to rally for ME SP and a mansion on the cam from Boston -- apart. Sports start camp thanks for joining us John."

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