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Tue, 4 Aug 2009

Michael and Tom talk about Jim Rice, especially since he mentioned TC in his Hall of Fame speech, and how we are still waiting to hear from David Ortiz.

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" We all know it's a pleasure to cover sports write about sports talk about sports in the great city of Boston. And a terrific reason like New England okay don't know that. How many people. -- across from -- guy who was mentioned. And all think it's. Never -- part time care before we happened to me. All these years about that were raised on the show once and some guy. Took. A guy how it got which guy would that -- I don't know what you arsenal on -- game. I know it's a very loud though it's a very loud because the later tonight what. About that. Are watching the -- actions -- and all of that."

" Your net income and and you know it's great the phone to starts as an awful. You know vehicles that. And when you never know when. You and I thought he would not get it running right. Right by me but he showed me ask these days that week. Our studio. For three innings where we are working on his politics out there and read the speech. He came back in the eighties slapped in my face and pointed. Out here. I totally bodies. Forget I I got it right on the cutting room floor. Really wouldn't go to Cooperstown atop Jared is not America and it's like. When you go to an event or something -- you might get called up the speed notch or and so you kind of ready for play and this is one of these planes the orbiter to support right doesn't. -- And then he didn't call. On our region so that brilliant it was at 1230 and his beat them one so right before. And we have to TV story we're having audio. On yawkey problem. And he's taught in answering the and they need to stop. So I jump in with the next question. And the -- rambled on but that's what will move on. What happened -- talking I totally cut replay. Replay. You could see -- Agent so I wonder. It's a commercial and my phone. As to advocate. Ever caught me off again. A network -- again and I'm taking you must be. Up how are. About. 45 minutes away from making all the -- On athletic those are bought and a producer was whether that would among the -- it's all. Got."

" It is what he's glad those guys don't know if he's joking or not because we've got voice of they got -- an issue that look big guy and I still can't believe he always says that. I still can't believe he never lifted weights and -- is like I I saw I'm talkin' to take the kids on Sunday and every game and he was given them advice and he said only the plates. The pick apart one -- bat. I think just got 31000 how are and I coronation it's hard our regular look at them -- And it knows you --"

" You saw especially it was a great special Ed Asner and the -- to blow me away -- heard it before but -- to hear interviews with the guys grow up with honors in South Carolina. That when he was going to be a senior school. That you redistrict. Did that this city. So that he would go to the predominately white school. Because they want him playing football and basketball and baseball at the bigger school essentially so -- but think about it town council. Changing demographics of the to get this -- to another school so that it had nothing to do with you know segregation and know his story -- to get his sister went to the predominately black. They just put history. In the other -- that's so that he could play for the -- could it's true -- history that's exactly it so. Your point of you know the size he was just -- of high school he was just among bullet. You know came won't dispute got their guy and and ripped and yet never looked -- because they believed. And and now we're learning what we know about TDs and everything right and you wonder if there's onto it was more about flexibility was more about or bill wasn't about being as he calls and meetings and."

" You know what is kind of hard to argue and you look at some of these guys the consumer and enterprise is a big guy. That Hank Aaron was not a big guy if you look at harming children today. Really you know it's got a -- what -- name this guy must be 64. And your 260 pounds might -- but he did cross -- was not that big somebody's great home run like the -- I mean. Freakish talent very very fast when he was healthy but. Look at its eyes let him like overwhelming. Biceps bulging so -- wonder -- the two places the tube and guys are just different now. Protein shakes. Were you around work out our regiment routines. Weightlifting weight training strength trainers maybe we don't you're dating -- called you might be called lazy today. Or I'm just not only a program I don't wanna lift -- but in the right."

" And obviously we've seen you know the benefit of it with some guys think you -- it was kind of softer and don't we are when he came up you know memorable floor Devlin -- guy for a couple winters in Arizona. Comes back to different got -- ready to go Pedroia. Transformed his body became a rookie year in MVPs. Yeah there's a fine line but but API displays and Arizona and others want Florida to that the guys already about the they are much more about resistance training corps exports are more -- right it's not so much I think they have come back alone I think that. You know the -- plane metric stuff is where -- now as opposed to the and I'm dating myself a little bit but the picture of Nomar with the bat over shoulders you know did -- ever play a full season after."

" That's not dating yourself and not lose -- a long time ago on how well they 2000 -- As Psycho house nine years are America nine -- application history. However that story by poverty -- how how Nomar Garciaparra turned himself into the toughest out baseball. And you know accounted he's dancing around what everybody's thinking but he never came out that. This guy is on something but I remember a quote. From his cousin a guy called it was a picture cottage doubles -- however was his cousin and said you know we tell Nomar to slow down sometimes and that's gonna lead to a lot of injuries. If he doesn't. You know law allowed to sit down exactly what I ask you more about TDs and -- second for obvious 301 more thing about your rights when asked you if you work with and closely probably. No better than anybody else in the media. Did you see any. Change in him win the Hall of Fame they became official because I know what he didn't demand for those thirteen fourteen years in a row came close he'd say. Very often I'm of the strike next year or it's too bad I look at myself as a hall of Famer the writers don't see that it was more defiant. But getting in this in his last year it seemed to me from afar that touched him on really softened it did you see that it."

" Absolutely I was with them that afternoon after he got the call. And he was violent you know all they never seen guys miles along the smile just never left his I think there was. In retrospect and I'm not even sure he knew it was there at the time. Chip on the shoulder you know there was something there are obviously that. He didn't have his place in the game. Com. What he said is true he never thought of himself as a hall of Famer. He refused the lobby and that's what blew me away for fourteen years of rejection. I urged him a couple times depression on it came out with a great. You know I was there this. -- no such a move the -- that I'm not sure he gets in without that because it was a three year ordeal every year for three years the numbers going up and more guys looked at those numbers. But I I think looking back Jim and and those of us who watch GM you know realized that. Had he not gotten. What he did. You know what would almost as being in Spain but in any championships you know where's your place in the history of this game -- in the history of this team. He's one of the best it is that worthy of the 300 it bronze. Didn't sound that -- in 98992000. That out pretty good African not correct you know that's exactly right so is urging them do I think he's. I -- the words would be more confident. About his place in the I think he he feels and even jacket pocket actors I was around in 2004 it was first year -- hosting with a when he got in all of and talking about it out the fact. He said when you're in that group once a year now Yugo when you're with the other guys here in the club got a -- and I like the guardians of the game -- they -- with Selig every year. And and was only a little bit of stuff about what they're on about -- listed where this is all doling it. You know really confidential stuff but they talked hall of famers 'cause these guys are the guardians are the torch bearers of the game base engines now part."

" Yet now you talk about the list and this is this must be. Awkward I'm assuming it's awkward if it's not you know seven straight here let's be awkward for you guys at NASA and a partnership with the Red Sox -- something happens with David Ortiz and he's on the list covering that story. Do you have to about walk on --"

" No I don't I covered just like we -- The guys who -- and you'll be with -- plot you know hammered out all right right -- never gonna you know what I. Teen years. This month. -- And -- before they thought. So fourteen years at NASA go back to the Kara Henderson front wrote -- yeah night by atlas -- 02 with a Red Sox. Are doing it's -- traveling as the reporter now six. But we I've never in this is the truth in fourteen years I've never been told analysts. In fact the new ownership is the real adamant about you know this is an independent. You -- hear the guys need that credibility you know we we need you guys beat yours as a sports. So. -- and as you know. It broke it that we the year twelve for the pregame show at twelve -- Arab we heard about what was published. I heard about it well one snapped a three minutes before going on here you get the producer running in the studio here."

" Right right around -- time because we that we were enough -- that -- The shorts on the afternoon game at -- when they rehearse that right around 1220. Up 3218. Stuff like that was posted on the times -- 28 because I remember this story was posted 1218. And dale said this was posted ten minutes ago in New York Times website here it is David Ortiz is on that list. I feel like David Ortiz. On the first day I thought it was great. Wait dealt with that he said you know you guys know me I'm gonna come -- I'm gonna find out information on the comeback and give you some answers. -- Tuesday and we haven't heard anything I don't think he's been great cents every day. What are you are you hoping that this story does not have legs anymore you're hoping that it guys out. I think it would have come back if the information. Nine outlook and outlook for. Blow by blow in a very series timeline. Narrated by Tom Selleck oh that's just give us. What due to a your version of why you took it and you move on in the story would died out but now he's put up and -- with a newsmaker of last week every -- The whole -- gonna start up."

" Absolutely right and you know what I'm sure he'll learn from Iran back -- spring training is every -- he's gonna say. Is going to be you know examine with a -- Remember you know -- was no sooner -- Then we were the search was on for the cause. Virtually on what is loud and it was thought they will -- out you know also so I'm sure that's part of it. I gave it happened Thursday afternoon they played immediately -- was. You know it is good as far as avoiding because he get the right out of the yeah definitely getaway day and -- either hit -- getaway day. I give him credit for saying something to the media that did not just ducking on the plane which I thought he -- thought they would -- release the -- what does it -- was -- is great and him coming -- saying -- gonna talk -- Friday I don't know that I expected the next day ball park."

" I think I did mine and I have to say I expected to next."

" That I thought the weekend would factor and and that I was thinking you know maybe Monday when it's the -- you know he. So is it. That he's trying to research. To the point of making sure he doesn't himself in trouble by what he says. Is that he's using the scheduled event today the first days to do this as it -- that's what are in New York Thursday you wanna do this Yankee Stadium I don't think."

" I was gonna say maybe maybe want to you know get the biggest audience you really going to be the next day you wanna make patriotic guys -- New York. Garnett got had a tent outside -- Roger did Jordan Tampa outcome but how some relatives who are gonna go to the old stadium it's at a bleachers excuse me David -- in the post here yet. I gonna let your post preparers may be coming all the -- to his new restaurant framing him. I don't know -- right the longer the clock ticks. The more skeptical -- the average and it's going to be a one he says you know is this polished statement saying you know this is what -- it and it's going to be of course it is. But but what -- it sounded and felt like it was from the heart. Had he said the next day he sat down -- questions that we all would have said. Like I was the -- the fact why come out once I didn't inhale mobile. You get -- different except it wasn't sure what about it I did it -- whatever find out that you can go one on how many people hammer -- and where are we don't imagine if -- think the first dozen guys that popping your head as as there argues that he's not."

" See that's less I was I was saying to in -- freedom Eric -- A lot of guys have overrated what this means and how it it's a big deal to us in the media and maybe we obsess on it we can't help okay we've we've been trying to -- that we assess. Or steroids maybe it's guilt that we didn't get the story faster we didn't figure it out until it was really obvious that people were cheating maybe we should have known. Before we did so now. We're making up for lost time. We are upset with that and I think fans are upset with that at and it's not like they haven't heard this before David Ortiz comes out. And says it. He's not gonna become the poster boy for these steroid era and just another guy another talented guy we thought talented guy. Who had his statistics enhanced. But that's okay. It over with and move on to talk about Tampa."

" I would yank I would be 100%. On board that statement if not for his statements it's portray. Will he set himself up now for more scrutiny and ridicule average. And when he told us that spring training that -- despite earlier -- a embarrassing my family and embarrassing my team just won't do it for the year now. I'm guessing that's why this is a tougher. Media briefing to come up with that most because he's got to not only tell us what he did. So why now that tells what he -- our."

" While what you say is yeah I'd taken it before her. And I'm sure and now it's going forward I'm sure that's what I don't believe and it you if you listen to the entire press conference he -- as yet. Now he says now you're taking them you know clearly says. In 2009. If you -- There are not. Talk about -- the front end the definition of drafting behind sub committee bears this'll. No easy talking about -- it's an all right David Ortiz and integrate -- and let's not go back this year. Good note three note the good and an -- however that's our."

" But I I don't know -- was the Shakespeare talking about them protesting too much as far ahead of his time if anytime somebody's I would -- whatever it is. I would net you're not attracted to -- I really cannot attract -- a lot of it but what was the story here what happened."

" By the way I out of -- I wanna bet that Daniel Bard would mention on the show for the Bard but get a read on that there are you role not just as we -- on the down I'll show. Now I'm gonna talk about that actual a baseball game."

" Or baseball games the next six baseball games. I'm in my opinion this is the season. This this these vacant and not not if they lose they're out of the playoffs -- I don't mean it that way I should I should be more clear this is the division. They they they went four out of six. -- six games I think they got."

" They split these two and win the four game series -- we don't win the four they sweep up here and split right they take four out of six there aren't a picture and probably -- him. And really the opportunity."

" The race I think the rays -- that he -- I thought they were a while ago about okay here -- here they come you're not. And I do some things but they if you like you just can't get on their own way it's it's not you know six and four stretches five and five stretches sometimes foreign six. And they seem to be I think there's such a talented Tina I can't understand why they can't get going out of that after they crossed a -- last usually know how to win."

" They don't the big development for me that tells me they are ready to make a little push here is that Kazmir is one last couple games beating sabathia and Greinke. So all of a sudden you're trying to rid of -- they try to get regiment the deadline but nobody want them because you know. The shell of the guy."

" Think about that nobody -- the fifth on this rotation. The guy I love how it as well as you say yeah Eric afforded that right if you miss him okay so there's no problem. The love the most in the in the picture. Is is Matt Garza I get back gardening music and -- occupant guy. Should be the next Greg Maddux the next a young John Smoltz but the council's that we theaters now and he looks like. Record -- that's like. An eight."

" Yeah although it what to go with like a one point three -- against the Sox mean you are are they did not they saw and he he. -- we've got all due respect big game James campus and yours -- that brought -- Matt Garza is the guy who does seem to get op. For the Red Sox and the Yankees or or whatever you know so I I think you're gonna see very good cars and."

" You know other Tom -- the hear the song and it would come to what you're talking about the rays right now I think you want here and Amber's gonna play a story."

" for the good let me get your fired up talk. It's been great to talk about now. The fact is kidding you is. The best -- songs and they Houston Oilers are probably you're okay. Terrible. They actually they tried to beat artists with this data -- mechanic and for the -- record that it really quick start."

" The minor -- ought to -- her new meet -- W -- Back in the ninety's I was modeling like I'm Portland -- radio and was like VP. We had these two guys -- and and their company did nothing -- he's great songs song packages. You know I mean your catcher in the halls with the greatness to our presentation -- guys. With electric guitars in our offices and some that were thinking and we -- the pirates. Get hooked their great get all excited that they interview you guys for for a little for a little further as it call ahead I mean now -- That to you guys fighting are you a fast team ethical. As real as if it's a music package. It's like C. With like seven different versions you know doughnut beds they do commercials though I thought I thought about this sort of a bug that says this is our Reno version this is all can't take the ice to."

" Radio -- Instrumental. Dirty -- you. This is something that some guy in Tampa has died in Hollywood no -- I -- hit man. Some guy in Toronto. Finished with the loss was sixty sevens packet it didn't halt camp."

" The maple leafs turned about it and how about the rankings. -- get -- done -- plan to talk about today baseball on the table. Red Sox and rays. The greats have. On the Red Sox but. Like back in the day when news dot Tampa on the schedule and you felt did you know it's a good about the race strange things happen with the Red Sox go to the drop."

" And you -- you gonna see the winner in game seven tonight. And -- the saving game seven --"

" I'm not. I think we all expected price to take that next step this year so much about it on it at home I'm not gone well outward about. Where about word archives. Now we're about that that the Yankees go again -- a warrior and worked it often isn't gonna team it's a very word about it. The the Yankees. Keep. His they'd be like god and the the 80 against the Yankees obviously on the -- six and two before games. You know those two games are if you talk you know I mean take those games those -- got hired as -- I think it's got a home run walk off win they haven't dominated the ludicrous -- you know he's UB. -- right right you know half out."

" It is a nobody like him like you -- the floor with yeah. He's all season just one other games -- copy a couple of one run games in -- couple comeback games against -- forced to let -- about today to talk about. Baseball football is on the table basketball. Coach Kelvin Williams went much elderly and -- want. -- I -- you know violent but so -- starters that question thank you on one. Lets him over the Celtics I want my man I have season tickets. Are Marty Joyce. -- Shelden Williams with some courtside seats I want Candace Parker every day. Every game and water on the Jumbotron every that's been Shelden Williams got one point three million dollars plus my wife on the Jumbotron every game. From -- satisfaction please."

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