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Mon, 3 Aug 2009

Holley and Frede open the show talking about Victor Martinez, David Ortiz, and Holley's awful looking suit.

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" That was a very informative open. Yes dale is on vacation yes. Big game James is on vacation. Well we don't give a damn -- don't have a great -- Eric -- is here and we have a lot of experience working together this is our second --"

" I'm shocked I mean when I've walked out here that outlast them I'm like you would look at me. You win win I took a socially -- that was it then another. That authorities were partially awkward socially -- I never saw that yet but that. There was no -- I team in Friday later that week. And and did the show set match here hosted actually did the -- wait a -- now now I did it I lied did it. As it. So you. And and in my ultimate respect TUN and it was kind of like this New Yorkers and hit it was like my -- Back to you for all what you gave to you for talking after I like it's a guided Barbara you know like in bridging some sort copyright from the show that follow."

" I know I'm not love it love it the lightning round is great it's so great debt without a brain that bad -- My round today that talk about a lot of things but it ran out on the table at all on the table -- that created. Now it goes we'll take many calls. In quick action in that -- And that will turn it over to the -- but that's -- that's weight off air assets four hours --"

" You -- but I'm getting the sense now that the kind of these appear freeze in gentleman Sally Field -- like me you really like me -- a -- back or -- or anxiety case of emergency break glass covered up that file -- my partner let's have a separate not to let it. -- about it. I -- we got four hours figured out that one day and there's one thing I do like about you know very much in that is. You know your stuff when it comes to these prospects. That the Sox were rumored to be getting rid that the -- actually did get rid. Not that I a lot of things about a lot of stuff well don't -- but aren't they don't know Obama. But I think the thing I like about -- If there's -- is that true well. So this Barbara I'm unique in your -- like I got one guy no no they're not perfect and it's and it's all -- about all about you but of course that is you know."

" I think the Red Sox just on the face of the the Red Sox got a steal I mean not just because Victor Martinez went five for six yesterday. Right against the -- sack Orioles who have lost that -- thirteen of fifteen against the Red Sox apartment I'm not mistaken most of it and what do those losses. Was a freakish Levin wants and generation. Bullpen explodes. After blowing -- 101 lead so -- three dollars coming again yesterday Alitalia articles on the I think having Francona had that in the back of his mind it is -- in -- expanding. You know Manny Delcarmen can't get the job that OK come on into Ramirez that he is looking at the bullpen they can this team came back against the before. What's to stop them from doing it again but. And it's and they got a steal because Victor Martinez went 56 yesterday steal because in give up anything opposite Major League roster. And they are still able to hold on to Daniel Bard playbook."

" Gave a masters and which I think was a little bit of a surprise but as far as elite prospects. I -- they held onto my tigers -- you don't consider masters and I don't prospect. I don't I don't think they've look at just masters in -- as one of their oh leak guys now. By the sounds of it through there were no untouchables. In this conversation whip Roy Halladay I mean it sounds like and Theo Epstein said after the trade deadline. But they made some aggressive moves perhaps on Adrian Gonzales perhaps on Felix Hernandez which I think that you don't he may have jump to the head of how the last thing up."

" Allen and look at Felix Hernandez and his aides no question no question about Hernandez. Is that you can't get it done in the American League which is always a big question about these pictures of -- he's been in the American League but. Out -- so what's different story but you look at them but you look at what he's it's against the red socks and you want to -- if anybody can be Dominic guy. And -- want to we have."

" I think that's gonna be some and we don't in the offseason I think that's gonna be your top target I think the Red Sox but he held on to those you lead prospects and I'm gonna rattle off the -- prospects we know the name but he Casey Kelly. -- guy who is placed her first -- year. -- It's above what people body can. Deliver now it was a shortstop you know to -- a great athlete and some guy who's in incredibly intriguing. You've got Lars Anderson who is struggling at double a but he still coming into the don't want. They're trying to develop a power -- And and their riding with him right now. Daniel Bart I mean he continues and how about what he did the other night I -- what he did the."

" But but but it's it's amazing now of the these aggressive offers I wonder if they were so aggressive. They said JP majority or Kevin towers and -- what's. Now I made it's gonna get one of those guys as much as I think it Daniel Bard is just a great young talent. You've got to get a guy like Hernandez. Or Roy Halladay or aging Gonzales. You you're should be prepared to give up one of those."

" You know I saw I've heard which army Adamson -- after right channel for the visual whenever I. Went. If it never boring. -- I had a light blue baby blues smoking jacket. You heard on the jobs anyway."

" It's -- data and said that he bought in his information was that the Red Sox did offer those names that we -- or. Buckles and boat and a lot of people calling in this -- thank. Well you know we holiday because we've got Lester and Beckett and then. Huge questions today and I agree with that and it sounds like. According to Sean I think Sean has impeccable sources in his right 99.9 percent of the time. So I'm gonna trust what he says it sounds like that the west in in the Red Sox. Weren't willing to give up elite prospects because they -- in the mix for one of those three guys whether it's Gonzales but certainly Hernandez -- holiday because they saw that well you know we we could use. A top. Of the rotation starter here to round out our top because there's a big drop off a huge drop off when you consider Tim Wakefield isn't -- off the mound yet so I don't know when he's back."

" Wakefield not proper amount and you don't know what the deal -- with Daisuke even if Daisuke un magic it became back magically came back when events which is not gonna happen when he -- okay. It becomes -- still don't know what you mean on John Smoltz can't rely on on small. Clay Buchholz yesterday Kama. What an opportunity. Come on clay. Got to the rest that the Red Sox can that they really needed to yesterday the reds are -- or what I've definitely had that feeling there I went score and the escort. Yet he can't make it five innings. So you can't really depend on him either I think as much as I love this Victor Martinez acquisition I think this deal. I can make an argument that they do need another starter and not eighties. But just another reliably now aren't going for start -- and I've got -- rely on them."

" Well you have to about it right now lot of people are -- come on don't with a small experiment a -- the prospects in the moment and don't with the smoltz experiment or what. What is -- we yours too it's a great -- it he's the same guy we saw in 2008. What else -- you gonna do right now you've got -- You've got Lester you've got Penney Asian number three you've got Wakefield hoping to throw off the mound this week in Tampa hoping. But now is gas sigh -- problems he can run so I hear that it's like -- wait a minute where are we so why did president having to. So so now you have to right now so here here's what lines up for smoltz right now smoltz is frustrating right now. But you know the Red Sox had a long view it's like look just battled through it get the September. But here's what smoltz is gonna go through now Yankee Stadium. He's gonna pitch against Detroit. He's gonna pitch at Texas data that's what he's got lined up for his next response that's not the nationals that's not two starts against your buddies had of the royal bank Arctic. I don't a catalyst -- about competition now I'm ready --"

" About rate at which it's funny to use. To use a term -- or aggressive aggressive move by the Wednesday. It really would've been an aggressive move yet Roy Halladay about Gonzales right now to get Roy Halladay Felix and there's. He's doing. He didn't make any pitching moves. And they have some pitching questions. Not as many questions that the as the Red Sox rotation -- want to come back this year insurgent patriot champions and they are relying on him. But I'm I'm saying it would be an aggressive move because they make that move. For Halladay. Worked for Hernandez gets woman say on August 3. Over and over done it in their back happened. Over -- cannot deal that the Yankees would not be able to match up with that especially going into this area they have those guys. For this series coming up later this week. Not a good matchup for the Yankees so. They would've won the division going when there's no doubt in my mind they win the division. If they make -- move when the division anyway but that would put them that would be one of those pro active moves. That would secure the division."

" and it advanced and it sounds like they recognize that realize that certainly and they were willing to part with guys who -- not. Perhaps were untouchable I don't know if Bard was in the conversation Casey Kelly I got to imagine. That's Seattle Toronto said okay here's what we want. -- Casey Kelly but colts bowed in May be Lars Anderson I mean I we're talking a list but got that is the is pillaging."

" I'm looking for a farm system. And light and to our horror -- Dilapidated -- system resuscitated as with a one move that's what that."

" Without doubt here here's what happens you get Victor Martinez who was the best -- available on July corridors and I don't -- holidays pitch well he played well and -- well. -- Lewis he went before that but Victor Martinez you sliding got -- here's a 345 guys going to be playing just about every day I mean he's 345 in the line at catcher Perth based catcher first -- maybe DH mixed it all right -- he delivers he's not going to be a big forty home run guy but. You know the classic Francona line -- he loses uses all -- keep the line movement that's what he has I that we saw yesterday by upper sixties rob. By market he's would've been six for six. But to get Martinez they give masters in which I think surprised some people. But I think it doesn't take too much speaking to look at Masterson and say -- what is the what is he could he take it lefties out right now Cleveland's definitely move him into the rotation. There going to be like remember -- we're monitoring. I I I mean I think. The world of them. Yeah he's the same wide eyed kid who pitched at the futures have been -- six pitch and lol I mean he seemed like genuine guy right yet to give up something to get something. And they developed him through the system meany used it went from class a shot up was a starter or reliever but what is the uneasy situation all righty is he has thought I mean he can throw 97 we get up. You know I think he's a starter when he grows up dubious start and that but. He had to develop a little bit more Emmy."

" Perhaps you right now. Perhaps it because he has not and I and that's what Cleveland is gonna -- legally legally is banking on the upside of Justin Masterson and in the Red Sox are saying. Well we think he's a very complicated but we also need help in our lineup and we like our farm system so. Justin Masterson is not the Jules. The Red Sox Arnold it's and that there's more we."

" That can quietly lyrically in Cleveland backing up a little -- they got rid of everybody short of Grady Sizemore the last two years to go back the sabathia I mean they're loaded everybody this year sunspot that's now the big the exciting guy perhaps -- Cleveland is nick -- don't. Whose hard throwing lefty went Tommy John surgery like that's a name you've probably heard you know."

" On honors excellence when -- set this up here that Eric free. Walked into the offices morning. And he's got he's got nick how'd you know lyrics on it got -- out those -- it's -- Everything about -- you know everybody in the -- Our system you join the game tonight. Loss it's game tonight at Edward. -- it's a good shot you know or triple that of the preview tonight -- nick had known for those who don't know market."

" Throwing lefty he was a top ten prospect he he's he's the biggest prospect the Red Sox part with here at the trade deadline. Part throwing lefthander Paul could projectors clothes -- starter he's a guy in Cleveland now about that to name the file but. Use pitching classic yet Tommy John surgery -- so he's coming back so that's a bit of a risk gamble. And I think the Red Sox were willing to take. Because it wasn't any of the top guys it wasn't -- or Anderson buckled to barter Boldin. You know you can -- I want it wasn't Josh Redick. I mean that's a name that comes out of nowhere this weekend because Red Sox needed. They lack outfield depth of its -- and they've reached down the double A -- data Harrisburg Pennsylvania diplomatic parked on the -- Mohawk. It comeback -- that -- yards classic Francona gets a man that night. As a -- arts the next two days it's a whole Merck. Swinging it everything I mean the rest of guy he's he's a Pedroia -- tight and -- an aggressive so he's really dialed back this year trying to get on base a little bit more. Excellent athlete. Was injured earlier this year but you seem like there's I've. Bought that ball buckled bowed in -- probably -- I've heard about Josh Redick -- for the sea dogs but but -- let's -- prospect he is a top five he's number five according to baseball America."

" Now now that the Yankees here you have to shape the -- I mean we saw Johnny we saw Johnny Damon with what we're here for the world space -- I'm always thought you know Kevin Millar was a -- we see David Ortiz knocked out of -- with -- that is there any kind of standard."

" I -- I would certainly hope that that they can't have -- double -- level state you gotta look like a major -- on that that is the maybe -- a Mohawk -- and I'll get out and that's it really something like you're gonna get lap."

" Elders and a real estate department all the Mohawk policy doesn't work that much I am really looking forward to this series. Shouldn't look past Tampa note yeah I have a lot of respect for Tampa but it looks like it's becoming it has become a two team don't know."

" I I disagree I disagree completely Tampa wins two games here now there. Two games close of the -- okay thank you talk about what is it division on the got this but I. Tampa Bay like look whose -- I mean Garza -- house below 500. Owns the Red Sox owns their identity is great and then got David Price for poor guy you know the rookie to guy -- closed out PLC."

" Close it out but come. I'm not afraid David Price you're not afraid -- you're afraid of -- Rick of course you're not afraid attempt bay race. And instead I got an operator Dave price David Wright we we some close up the series. And it looked great about Zalmay he's going to be he's going to be that rotation next year under great but okay. And actually got some some pretty shaky start he's cute he's developing to. I -- Matt Garza. I think he's the best pitcher on that staff forget about big game James Shields I love Matt -- but. Tampa I was -- couple weeks because it looks like it get -- they're ready to do some things that really seize that opportunity. And then David native Wales yeah they've they've faded a little bit about what they're did know but I'm looking at yankees Red Sox to the finish."

" I think that's him a mistake because I look at Tampa Bay bay have been spinning their wheels like yesterday shields carries and no hitter in the eight inning. Loses no hitter loses the game kansas' -- I -- Hasn't figured it out yet I mean they're they're they're kind of just like floating around and I thought they -- take a step back because they were injury free last year. And we know they have the problems with the injuries a look at this Tampa Bay all of a sudden. The five and a half games behind Boston they look at this is the first two steps trying to get a little closer and you've got to get by Lester and penny. Down at Tampa Bay so I think this is a great opportunity Tampa Bay I don't think you can dismiss them I think before last year you can look at Tampa -- tonight lets you rate for the four games in the Bronx. But right now I think the rays are looking -- it is like here we -- August. We get team ahead of misunderstandings. You gotta get that top to the Yankees didn't make it -- trade deadline nor did Tampa -- I don't dismissed Jerry -- Well I mean. I think you mentioned before about getting another starter and her father would have been a great parents are at the -- answer the Yankees need. A little depth in their starting rotation. And dating -- so why I don't know what the Yankees were thinking at the trade deadline outside of the fact that they're like -- we we were done deal and it aboard. We got Teixeira we got CC we got Burnett were all done. We're gonna ride it out right now and they've played well but they just dropped to a three Chicago. Over the weekend and a I don't know what. Tampa Bay. As far as trying to get going books at this week and other than saying here's our opportunity we're gonna pick up two games in the team ahead -- this is gonna get that -- it."

" You notice it in order to sound like you sound like you really. It's like on -- payroll --"

" I mean but this night. -- you've proven you. I maybe got it got nick I don't just want to -- I got there -- thought that struck you don't just -- in my job on the go setting up my upon our prayers you know. About that -- course. 230. Not on I'll also go go to the group here right. I didn't know so layered. The very you want -- here. Okay all right I can't wait period is. All felt -- and but it's gonna let anybody at the Dunkin' Donuts and I've got them."

" That's not a ninety minute not even a slow faded are not partners -- dot the asked that before we at the break they got the questions and I haven't ever went again over the Internet. At the -- right Henry but it had equity and opera for our house. The question that a lot of like seventy rate I gave you reported door went door to the right thing you do remember our first that the other -- I'd. I've made an impression on you -- it Meredith."

" American it's not like Brokeback radioed for -- Door number one here I only got one option for. David Ortiz. And and my question is how she handled the situation because opinions tuition has not been handled I don't I don't Tito said. The answers will not be you'll not get your answers in the next minute understand that so what I interpret that to mean. Go to clubhouse right now and you're looking for. The -- you're looking for -- soup to nuts how would happen would neighbor to market again. But it was last week the -- Monday. Gimme somethin' baby that was last Thursday. On Monday. Have any answers and David Ortiz. "

" While I -- makes. And he was answering questions. After the game Thursday put up the statement and -- stood there like you know I'm going to be approach would you guys -- find out something to back to you for the game Friday. He's he's not and it's a question -- I gave -- because of the trade deadline it's a that isn't like he's what recover. And gone in hiding it does not answer the question but it's just like he's answer questions like well here it is you know way it's it's a Friday but I it's a question where new series I mean it's like nothing has happened. Now I understand. That. There's all sorts of legal ramifications here for the players' union and we talked to Michael Schmidt yesterday -- reporter -- New York -- he's trying to lay out and it's amazing how. How many layers there are you don't how many eyes -- quote unquote list. When you try to figure out what's next on welfare the players union. Digging in their heels I mean you know that the quote put out my credit to Michael -- and are you -- you're gonna have to give up the name of your sources because. That's what the players union have right now we're like we're you know."

" This is against the law because is under -- Their -- they're not yet they -- let's give you the let us know and that's what you're right David he's been going to the union Michaels and I get a check with the union. And I'll get back to you to see what it is you think he's gonna get an answer from the utilities."

" on his part stupid on his part you can not at -- when you're in the situation given name it's been leaked in it's wrong and shortly supposed to be anonymous. It was supposed to be protected it didn't happen in time to move more. Your name atop the list you don't have to bring anybody else down. You don't have to say I saw someone so injecting himself and a needle and injecting -- in the but with a needle. In the -- way up after that ought not to do would say. Yes I'm on the list and here's why I'm on the list because I took such and such and it was stupid. I was trying to get an advantage but there's been testing it -- not for if it has been testing since 2004 which mr. And I have not failed a drug test which is obviously truth and we haven't heard me. I appear he has not been suspended. -- take it take and he answered the question."

" Let me ask you follow up question and he liberal David Ortiz have you taken any performance enhancing drugs. Since 2003 when this was game. -- you can answer that I haven't I haven't failed a test to do Lance Armstrong defense -- fail the test had a veiled attack where there's yeah there's undetectable stuff out there that -- that and you look at his home run numbers and how can you not. Say at this point you have to be."

" Donald -- I don't know. I don't I got injured had a hole in my -- Minnesota. They wanna meet that they wanna -- it to play in a way that it wasn't comfortable with I was calling it went in no way out of the liberated when I came to Boston. I loved the wall. Okay I love gone the other way I love being in a great lineup I had many -- I call him yes."

" If that's the answers is -- from their -- no way I mean you just I I I hear your answer and what Ortiz you want him -- you wanna say look here it is. You know. Let's let's move on that I haven't failed a test but do you think he's so it's sincerely gonna do that it."

" I don't know I don't and I took it and we all Eddie we're gonna do it would have done -- and -- said yesterday -- smoking jacket. What's your -- In my pocket that. I don't have a problem. With the word curry too when Theo Epstein said David showed a lot of calories urges him like an album here. The that the English language it's so diverse and they are in for definitions for lots of words in context. Change is what the words people come up with it alerts for to say we're gonna go to war that while at war should be one way the courage to be looked at many to get current stand current and actually five. But I think he used it the wrong way. David Ortiz would have been courageous. If you come out against the players association which. And done something that no one else has done before no one else's said. I'm on the list. And this is what I on the list it was it was -- Alex Rodriguez. Brian Bronson Arroyo kind of says Ronald -- but you know. Go ahead and do it you're not going to be suspended. The government is all set now the government is also with the they have they have. Gotten of people -- you. -- baseball players. Now they want Barry Bonds because of perjury and other things right but they want dealers but they don't want you with 2003 it was a long time ago so. You can say I'd get this fixed years ago it was a mistake I'm moving on judge me harshly if you want to understand why you would just partially. --"

" Live with the new C Michael why the guys who were on the list of who find out their analyst. Would be hesitant to do so when you think about how many guys truly were using in 20031400. People were tested. In 2300 Portland analyst how many do you really think we're using at that point and how many -- the list how many were smart enough to stop bullets that I mean that's that's but that's that they have in their back could be with a hundred force things I want my take in the fall for this if you're -- up and up on the list. Shame on you but at that time with so many."

" I -- I think that's a bad -- but we're never gonna know what course and asked it is really ticket ball."

" Would be taken off for favorite David Ortiz comes out and says yeah I did it is -- the face is not face. As -- now."

" It if you symbol of what went wrong in baseball as it hits all the."

" Ottawa won -- not gonna cut petting a what he says going board which I agree with you that's the most important thing that has to happen here how will he handle it how will he address it with the own up to it and I know I'm I'm overly cynical I think we all -- when it comes to steroids but it becomes out anything. Or anywhere short of what you percent about you know look I did it in and just being perfect answer becomes up with any kind of excuses. I'm gonna just broke my hands even -- even if he's genuinely what -- they -- an excuse your. What's -- excuse I I was never notified even though we know everybody was notified I didn't get the letter Eric -- somebody well I was while illustrating your blog that I and that's the thing you could have been. But -- unless the players association didn't do their job I'd never know he gets me I never knowingly. Took a tiger got an excuse I I'd never knowingly -- of this train her game. In on the Dominican Republic who you know trying to get me go I don't know I mean I I think you can come up with a dozen things to say use. And that's why will never know in the story stereo or where is the truth who is on the list I I do think there would be some hesitation from guys like why am five now the face of steroids saying I David Ortiz is like why don't like what. Would you agree that he's probably the most popular guy who's been named so far Melissa is -- about it."

" It's the most likable about it generally so you Sammy Sosa used to be. But he kind of fell out of favor with this performance -- congress a Mark McGwire. Before congress doctor Barry Bonds even before congress. Raphael Palmeiro."

" Pointing point yeah I had not lost at a congress to he's another one yeah. Yeah there's Roger Clemens not you know almost protest too much but not a likeable guy to begin. I mean Iraq I mean think about. Think about how how popular I mean you you look very logical answer while we're watching one of the greatest pitchers of all time -- look at all the Cy Young awards he won his World Series and at least -- and his -- and knack for saying and doing the wrong but as far as popularity contest and a guy who who has -- I mean you know Clemens -- that it only people. Of the teen years."

" No I don't know -- know it's got fans historians. Who looked at before they -- Well before they were sure that he was doing some things. You look at him as historically you can make that argument that he won the top five pitchers in baseball history to be top three you know just based on on what he had done that. A fan of his interviews so to speak. Not so much and none at all."

" I'm just say as a person now if you look today August 3 you know who who's the most popular guy who's the guy that you look at and say wow. You know there's a guy we -- every player loves of every -- loves -- even opposing. Bans in place -- teams you know you're listening."

" But Clinton look a lot of guys -- at the -- A lot of guy throwing it off already had not a lot of guys a lot of guys don't talk. Because. They don't wanna be exposed as frauds. They wanna keep the lie going and let's face -- some guys. Protect what they think is a -- of thing career. In the case David Ortiz. It's gonna be tough -- designated hitter any designated hitter to be looked at favorably when it comes out emblem. I'm having the the best designated hitter in my lifetime -- about the same -- departure much time as Edgar Martinez is that American is gonna help names can be very it and probably. A David Ortiz is probably not going to be in Photoshop so. They're not protecting Hall of -- like you have no. There's no threat of -- suspension. Because it's already been established you could not be suspended for failing a drug test. The feds are probably not gonna come after you. Your fans your fans already are down he said they found out your name is on the list you can win some of them back. -- at least get some sympathy. If you just come and tell the truth I don't get it."

" I I still think there's a large. Segment of the population and there are a lot of people up there's -- this is 2003. And since 2003 he hasn't tested positive so reserved and there's nothing that should be tainted about his -- his legacy or those World Series titles but if you take a look at those home run totals year after year now. Trust me I mean we give -- to the whole world is -- we can get an adult conversation I don't abnormal for a article on the fifth you know what you're talking about holes in the slaying and the twins and as you like rot until RJ named."

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    Dustin joins Mut and Bradford for his weekly appearance on the Laser Show. Dustin talks to the guys about getting closer to re-joining his teammates at spring training, what he has done to make Marco Scutaro feel comfortable with the Red Sox, and where he would prefer to bat in the lineup.

    Dustin makes his weekly appearance with Mut on the Laser Show. Dustin talks about getting ready to re-join his teammates in Spring Training and continuing his off-season conditioning program. Dustin also talks about returning to his hometown to speak to a group of students, and what his advice is for young ballplayers.

    Mike joined Michael and Lou to talk about his role as narrator of the new film "Touching the Game: Alaska", all the major league players who played in the Alaska Baseball League, what's new in his life after his playing career, going to a major league game as a fan, and if he has closed the door on any possible return to the game

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