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Thu, 9 Jul 2009

Curt makes his monthly appearance on the Big Show to talk all things baseball.

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" Brett is on vacation this week he won't be able to come back is he's going to be an endless mean. And those -- you aren't on -- investment is money. I mean it's about getting its profits -- accessories. Yeah it's excellent vintage planes that -- 100 vacation bonded by that artist by David Ortiz is power out that he was gonna retire at 36 it again this is that I had to do anything the rest of my life and he thought -- Curt Schilling was you know support the rest that is so. His second life but apparently that's. Because George is live right now -- mr. Schilling -- your. -- there are and why did you lower yourself. Debate like film."

" You know what the problem what. Realize you. It was going to be it is to land based and that's all I felt bad news it felt almost as the."

" and his -- is I'm not your mother with combat boots comment and lately haven't done."

" These PP some sort of CEO of the make sure apology I didn't know was was taken out a little bit. The last couple days -- about the content was was incredibly."

" He called -- really added to the holiday you know won Iowa so I was like page where you follow. Roberts and many are gonna make up for -- current."

" All while I'm wondering if you want I have been way to hear them lately I haven't heard. --"

" Oh yeah he's he's got a he's talked on his -- because is no question that the Ortiz is on -- he has he has -- on on that that let me get into the -- that he -- the call the other day. And you're all for this I why would you be -- Maybe the best pitcher in the game why would you wanna have when your staff. You think there's any chance the Red Sox would do this deal."

" But these are just -- absolutely they have you know what you. I predicted if somebody thinks that doesn't mean that comedy on the opportunity few get it to trade for a site award winner -- partly. In front man. You know is obviously you've got to -- is not gonna go overboard. On and who is it is proven in the past. To do things it contrary to popular opinion he does what he does to make the team has been as -- can make it and Roy elevate -- every team in the game better and you know they've got an organization that is actually set up to be. The front runner a situation like this. You know everybody has money concerns but they're one of the teams that that certainly wouldn't be held in check by contract extension request. And it'll give me the price -- they would probably -- they would probably want to do and menu at the player into the mixes spore is -- make upn and on -- field and it's it's a no brainer from which you. Oh yeah I guess -- the more -- questions will they -- de -- they can but the question is whether they will."

" Because how do you and you've got to figure you're also playing into this equation you're adding Josh Beckett with a new extension correct. Okay see you keeping him around you've got a signed Jason Bay or you gonna spend a lot of money for corner outfielder anyway."

" And which we -- but we don't -- the that's never a summit hamstring -- forum. This is not gonna -- the other -- that they don't palace which spend money -- but they're not like and not be able sign somebody if they sign expected Roy elevate an expensive."

" Let me ask the speaker is that that even if they signed Jason day. And they've they've made this trade for how they -- a boatload of prospects. Heidi get the other bats in the for the future you've already used all the chips that you regarded to get that back as they argued that back in free agency."

" Offsetting your your what your saying then is that that after -- there's this trade LB Barrett. They've they've they've -- at least."

" No no no -- well prospects but you'll have the prospects that you want again. To get a middle of the order bat right."

" Well you can go on the market do. You can always go on the market do and and you know bait bait you know. He can't just look at the moderately -- prospects though they have chips in the Bentley that they can trade for for for about as well and noted the big question becomes over the next you know however have a be vigilant to the trading deadline. Is is is players on the market and their value their values gonna go up and down based on the operas that are given and taken over the next fifty in the forty days and I I don't think anybody in the game can outbid the Red Sox prospect that point. And at the end of the day one of the -- evidence and have both been through this experience you have a no trade. -- attempt to change the the the makeup of the trade based on where you will all go again. Yes and portraits so so I would I would argue that what they what they would do here is what they did it about it is that it doesn't. You know who that we talked to that you would located trade -- who can we talk to that that you listened to and that narrow the -- very very quickly."

" Also diminishes what they get report Toronto can get in return."

" But if only if that list gets out."

" If you are spending -- if if if that if that if the Red Sox know that looks at -- it'll go to Boston New York while okay that Merrill appealable that. It also so that's a big piece of this is keeping keeping under wraps where where he gives it its programs for him to -- shopper. Roye and analyst and offers. Peace talk a particular Roy has no interest in going. What you which you could -- is possible third party yen which is you don't just -- specialty. -- a third party into the mix. And you're dealing through Pittsburgh to Boston. Or you want sent a metres deep he can't just look at somebody this big in their potentially this valuable and look at it straight swap. You've got GMs who made it very clear about the appropriate fourteen speed bigotry makes the app."

" Well I guess the question is which which would they have to give up more this year or next year and it would seem to me that they would have to give up. Way too much this year but next year when the blue jays a little -- more desperate. That you might have to give up as much right."

" Well you got a total trade bill -- In my mind if I'm gonna go trade I'm a lot more open to a year and a half. And I don't think they'll play some might go in that might help. If I if I open coming to Boston and I can figure out they're trying to decide that's where I want to go and it went like do it much oral part of that then than a year from now. When I'm happier with free agency and I don't wanna do all the crap is gonna come and a final report --"

" Having said that you do not believe that he would demand an extension from that team that is being traded to."

" I don't think he would demand an expense in the Red --"

" Yup and it courage of -- other Red Sox and you're gonna give up up what they boatload of prospects have a couple of front line players don't -- you wanna tie him up you know."

" Would like to sure sure but it but you know -- that perpetually -- call in the end and do you view is that more valuable -- Spezza went to World Series the next two years --"

" let me ask you this so this they go in your opinion is that you'll have a philosophy. In terms of how he's building this club and keep. It. Well so would he be deviate in from Matt philosophy if he's taking some of these young prospects that he hadn't owned for three or 45 years and we've pretty reasonable money."

" Well but you're assuming there are gonna get typically can be ready players starters and well up right exactly not all of them would want. That that there's -- there's an inexact science becomes and the player and it's it's no he -- players have personal -- anybody and you know that they're you know. There's there's no there's I would argue there's literally no untouchable prospect in the minor -- And and certainly can't get a guy like -- all the untouchables become portable. You know you're -- I would argue you look at the guys who is going to be a -- caliber pitcher for the next three or four years and and you would hope that one of the guys are developing has won Cy Young Calgary here right. It it's it's it's it's a challenge it it's about it obviously is not gonna be 81 and the price is going to be very very steep."

" I think that's the issue though isn't it the price and the fact that you've got back and they look like let's -- this is it. -- do you think that that Red Sox or this statement district for -- you think they would ever have Roy held in Josh Beckett ball signed to extensions."

" Do expect they would -- I think it will file I don't know I don't I don't know what -- like."

" What to eat up that much of the payroll deserves a budget -- that much of their payroll on one thing."

" Although at that one of the things you're assuming that if you would have to assume if you double that that that you would have to pay market value. And and that's what are the what are the advantages that -- pass right now is that it's such a desirable place to play did that that -- are the main. Concern and I would argue. That Roy -- they've yet he'll get paid but he won't need to get paid twenty of them a dollar more than it's about here."

" let's just say they both get five or nine. Right okay so five at ninety we're both those guys with the Lester contract. That would it when that wouldn't that hamstring you."

" I don't I don't that I don't think is any way you can assign a -- like deal. And idle mode you."

" That's a thank all you need is one team to do it."

" And I don't but -- again not -- to talk about an appropriate he's not afraid. You know that that's the difference again. You would last year. I'd I don't I'm not now aren't saying that I think ought to be. Wanted to execute get him quote unquote for the cheapest right what that might -- But no extension again you're gonna spend a year -- to get it probably doesn't want -- well I don't know but I mean. Going through contract negotiations at this point of view not -- wanna do. Right moving to a contender a legitimate World Series contender. And knowing -- 1415 million -- the most guys are going to be okay -- Atlantic Roy would be as well."

" But my argument her is that the listen Roy -- the there's no other pitcher I would rather. But the thing is is that wouldn't you rather use that extension you get Josh Beckett side into that extension. You have him and then use the same chips that you would have to use to get Roy Halladay to go get the bat that you want."

" And again that they -- the mean. You're you're you're you're assuming that. You don't bet that it is to replace --"

" Well I mean you can go down the list Steve Bono Michael democracies. Jason Bay. "

" Estimated David is is is. Are monitored substitute -- back -- also an assumption that that David Israel's. The turning to."

" Don't know I'm just I've talked about a couple years from now."

" And dignity gap which you can play like that that this market it'll play a couple of years not -- the political -- this year and next year maybe year after that. And if you're -- I think you're you're you're too stupid to look beyond two or three years just because they -- you're all your prospects could be out of the game in two years I mean."

" Sure but you have their value. You're right they cannot pin -- still have they're -- wanted to I. Well sometimes short sometimes it's not I mean sometimes it Yelena braves made a living off this a puppet up their guys that never panned out in the major leagues a bunch -- But their value was the rumors that they were going to be great."

" And at the other teams though that if it. If -- was that are able untouchable that now that he'd be have some -- sparked a rotation would be."

" That's somewhat with the I got you know I but others wouldn't you -- admit I agree I agree that this."

" Our current -- running a company now in in in all honesty if you -- the owner of the Red Sox in this where your money. Because some people arguments they Wallace not my money went right care if this were your money would you still deviate from your philosophy."

" And then -- now are I think you're you could always get your money back in this market. -- In the Far East in the market the -- the television deal sponsorship deals of this article Lester warriors. Don't I don't."

" According to them. They they say."

" Of course but they're the same goes of the same people that claim they were losing money on the yearly basis during labor negotiations between went a -- it -- Maybe you know it it did it's all how you position that."

" What you did admit of the economic climate right now within the next couple years that's that would be something you'd have to consider."

" Absolutely absolutely because look then in and then all of them are affected because -- their money comes from outside the -- Major League Baseball for the most part so. And especially someone like John -- but at the end of the day. The big thing for me is is that if I can get Roy Halladay here and an idea what I'm outlook to throw another. A two year extension on his deal and end at eight keeper whatever maybe that's what they do I don't know."

" They don't like each separate than your greedy and you do you wanna -- agreed to it and are rare opportunity to get the best pitcher in the car is there any other pitcher that you rather have a baseball. I agree."

" the -- I had no idea I know what I'm get -- at the guy is gonna it's every that they still gonna. Why yes and and the like there was certainly today the big pieces he's been. He hated them but what it's underground he's been -- Toronto and you've you've got a program here that he's never been exposed to and and it's proven to be one that keeps keeps pitchers on the but you know keeps their. The shop like expendable that you bring him in here with his bullpen in -- profits in -- democratic 25 games and it appears."

" Are -- about a two year extension beyond 34. And you think he would -- something like that I'm trying to figure out why he would -- something like that if he becomes a free agent at 34. Looking at the market out there and everything that we're all just set about how good this guy is why would you accept that even if -- Boston why would you accept."

" Because he deep views itself as being -- desirable thirty four's is 36 and that's the mentality playing -- And it looked at myself at 32 it's about a in my mind up -- Huckabee has been two years. I never I mean you know and then -- I -- I've never never in my life got depressed -- well it was about being in the top five. Pitchers and -- you know him while the note Gary. About winning play the game -- at the ballpark."

" That's one of the reasons why would pick him above everybody else to annoy the innings not only the performance. It's though it's a whole thing if the environment that he's bringing to the rest of the pitching staff. It's everything that you eat everything that you would want and -- haven't yet between starts as well. If -- him though don't you what are you -- for a three year deal."

" I don't again I did you happen no Roy and that I know him but I don't know him you know. Ultimately will be -- a long time."

" I don't think if you're -- multifamily here let's say it are you going to -- this all the time you want stability you rent movie city are gonna cinema it for two years and a move him around again I."

" Which are not look at this I know he loves this city and we love this environment he's always talked very bluntly about coming here since I've -- I was here. About best it's sold. I think that's a loss I think that that a year after about like it appeared that. From All-Star break to be in the CPR. Baptist pastor too difficult place and get some groups down and and and get established and I."

" Right ability Jason Bay I think that this year and a half that in his -- will be a year and half the Jason -- here. I think he's done more good than harm -- it certainly Jason Bay said you know what I like playing here right -- play here. And and that's a pretty good and."

" I'm not sure that you can overstate the value. Putting the uniform on and walking out -- on the mound."

" You also know a nice house that could biker."

" Hey hey I'm don't think I'm not that that way but it but I'm saying would you go from Toronto what you it'll its a nice place but he never. Ever principal when he comes here at about uniform on a walk out he pitched in front of these crowds every night. You'd get the the big leagues in a way that no other environments in the world get to Syria and and they're that is. I would argue this last your -- has been an incredibly positive sales pitch Jason day. And I don't know Jason. Well up and know what he's gonna do on the mark but I would I noted that there's going to be a lot of pluses on Austin's like when they -- talk contract and the cycle view. Roy has been any different. Well he's he's different. John it's gonna go up and make as much point to make. And publishers that the reforms can dictate a lot of."

" Why you why -- she looked different out here the results of the same. Yet if you're watching it the play play out out here. He just looked different out there."

" In what is different -- that he's the park and everybody's seen them. You know it in that role it and and -- I -- if you went back and looked at his -- Against the -- and I about it that's both parties are still pretty good. Comparatively speaking. -- Not so sure that it conservatives in the arch Angel because they seem so much and you know key. He he's he's changing he's different and and he is not war he just that he he's not obviously not get the point in the is that in -- to the degree but he's I think he's he's probably ever in piracy expert nine strikeouts per nine now most. There's well over any. And at their command these -- this command is you're at a bit as good as it was last year and you know all of out of -- It's a beautiful thing that he's what 22 other points or still -- still got a sub to we are here."

" The result. It was also the same -- just. These what you through a little bit more -- gets the job done."

" Now you know what Yankee fans that that do enjoy it for the last you know decade not that this is quote unquote people have -- off here. And that's -- idiot."

" We're talking about this and then I understand -- guys wanted to make as much money as he can make out in the open market I get in he's in a weird. He plays a position. In which if you look at history with the exception of the guy that's pitching in New York right now this just. No longevity to that position which -- like running items and BJ Ryan got -- the last couple guys that sign as closers for big bucks. Our team is going to be willing to give him the type of total package security. Money. Do you think they well."

" What they always that this we've added this is about a discussion but -- start up to twenty years. That the delightful look closer in last year's as the ball last fifty years has been pretty pretty consistent. You've got that night that he got and and they date except for the -- to donate. Repairs -- the world the term problems there's cute they don't have a long lifespan and every year we talk about -- are there is anybody gonna give it another closer. You know three or four year every year talk about it and it it just takes one -- eight. And and that is always been true and always will be true and are always speak out one need to make them make that --"

" Why is that so few. Make it that long."

" Because it's it's it's it's probably just. As physically taxing on your arm as -- you understand the amount of damage that you do -- on a daily basis and don't baseball understand that. That those gotten out of those guys with the exception of maybe cover up while Mario but he about -- most of those guys are max effort guys everything they do. On the mound is about 150%. And you can sit there can you imagine. You know going up and do when it is delivering his his effort bubble for not -- If you can't do the body can't do it and and various there's there's no four days' rest it's its high leverage situations you know 345 times a week. And and you just don't capital -- for your -- recover because if you think about it. You know they throw 15 of the innings in a career that the starter will grow the capitals for want debate -- and April 6065. Innings a year. This should be a very easy over 180 days and it's actually exact opposite."

" If you're putting it into -- abide yet that you can determining."

" It's been guilty could feel a lot. You know it's all there -- the -- the question becomes and so -- very well -- makeup on me. -- is the stuff does not put you in the ninth inning you know you -- your physical stopped Obama make up and the ability to bounce back because it's probably it's the highest of highs of almost opposes it -- never experienced a higher. Lowest lowest blown save and and now always. My issues was was beat real bounce back on the very next I'd come back in a presence at a certain accurate stuff and and total confidence in the somethin' to is that it's been kind of break that match up which I think is it like."

" We're going to have I don't know I I've worked their shorts well that's I was gonna say did you grow our appreciation to salute the the physical taxing that. That short time that you did it."

" I always I always had a -- bracket that in 91 I was but it was returning as the alternate views that. I repeat summoned all interest in the big leagues I've done every Joba pitching stopped in the end the hardest but for the hardest jobs speak to that consistently is closing because of but the mental aspect of nothing else -- the physical aspect yes it's child leaves stuff but there's no mental count in the game like like closing -- this week."

" I did wanna mention that the silences him warm. Up with the current page for analysts they are doing an auction here. The dates of the auction going on right now is that rights movement on."

" Yes yes -- let me just profit beat beat this is hard or hard core group of the most passionate Red Sox -- And in the world they raised close to a quarter of million dollars until three. Last year we raised over 75000. About EI haven't I'd just done very little has or has politics different items to the these people. Are very passionate about the -- like one of the forest and most informative websites. You you'll read every perspective you can imagine and I'm not a candidate stuff that article written on that I don't know what that better than anything it's been and any newspaper in the city ever. --"

" Senate democratic national soon Bob and Susan explosion supposedly expression of the ladies and they were -- I don't now."

" He's closer right now that it got it got Vernon Wells and Erica -- these it's not so barbaric and it deeply right now."

" But you don't want to associate Michael Prince Edward Island at I think I'll make up for when I win that debate that we just wants on the website. That's the problem."

" An -- about some of these auction items that got to hear a Red Sox clubhouse to work with -- Week's use of a beach house on the -- original artwork visit on the set of NBC's television at the office. And involvement donated bias and stand."

" This year -- donated a voicemail recording. And I thought I could afford it's what I've had reacted -- people get Lebanese to record their that are answer machine at all. I've always yeah by about. That somebody post something that some Yankee fans and when the bid in May -- like state. Like political stuff about the Yankees and red spot flexibility legal recourse. To choose to have oil reps and if that's actually the."

" Our sons of Sam -- dot com and it all information you give them all -- rules and a nice job the other day Lou Gehrig and other -- That was the original about it while. The -- they -- a little bit more faculty or -- on his GPS most. --"

" Yes he did detect out by the way or quake on why there's some voices on matter that. Let's sue Wagner not know -- you need to get one of the female voices."

" The woman -- Yeah US view that your voice is a GPS."

" I don't Popeye -- got daylight. He went into voice over."

" I want you to occur I got Tom Brady once you."

" yeah. We love you dearly but I don't think we're lost what -- like out of my -- summit taking. That people do."

" Yeah yeah out well and then there's there's some. There's some lady with some ladies. Questionable persuasion. Yes we do like slowdown right."

" Right. Giants and I don't get I was at that his -- weekends -- take yet. I don't. Is that India. Thing where I get back to argue with older equipment. At least the week I had. If -- Robin thing is -- yeah it's about delegates -- it Richard I Comcast last night I was on vacation. The only person I know that has nothing jobs it's like I'm going on vacation with one job if he wants the other re like objects that about you your everywhere authentication that that's tonight he's debating -- that's. The -- yeah."

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