" Welcome back forth and final hour Dennis and Callahan only free form Friday but only in name only it's been -- many all the time since 6 o'clock joining us on AT&T hotline AT&T your world delivered. Curt Schilling good morning Karen how are you. I guess we embarked on May seventh that would be yesterday and today we officially changed from Manny being Manny to Matty being a moron. What what -- the thought process because we could you have did you let any kind of insight as to what the thought process must be in this day and age with the policy at the door in Major League Baseball."
" I just picked it well I can't -- Can people do things you should but I can go. Really well stupid. -- it is reasonably expressed."
" I heard Jake Peavy given a lot of credit for the past him. He said I'm happy about it now I realize she's going against the Dodgers and it's against the Dodgers. Buddy -- you know it's good cleaning up the game and and and I it's refreshing as opposed to here in these guys say there's it's a sad day you know that. I think it's a good thing it's a good day I mean this is real change real. Reform in baseball you can't sit here and sale they're all juice and actually no they're not if they the ones who are either getting caught or in fear of getting caught. On at a time like this."
" Yeah W yes. That's. What."
" Are you happy like --"
" Among this point -- there so I'm not surprised they can -- below I'm on a pleasure to can't. Both. Disappointments in double it and knowing that there's probably a lot more out there."
" Current out of all of -- should read anything into this but it seemed to me with everything I watched yesterday and -- and I emphasize the -- watch because of looking and expressions on people's faces in addition to what they were saying on tape and react to this. There seemed to be more defense and more sympathy for many in other club houses that we saw with the guys being interviewed in Boston maybe it was written word this that I thought but there -- of these kind of sardonic -- smiles. The Red Sox players when discussing Manning's problems yesterday."
" Well. You know. It's a distress of -- Towards people say in now. It's happened yeah. You know these are like a lot of the guys that have been taught before. Around other options. Being. Erupted a lot of sense because in -- not a lot of guys like on. On news wasn't so most popular boys club. There'll be any worse to carry that help people -- played with him. -- neutral worst the most part so you know vote but because that put them in. Our divorce lawyer. I think that session. Some guys. --"
" we talk to Sean Casey about the a few minutes ago -- elect the run by you when when when you look at the people who have been caught. When you see that it's arguably the greatest hitter of the greatest home run hitter the greatest right handed pitcher you know that. Baseball's best. -- being exposed with having used all of this the message a bad one it's clear. It works kids aren't stupid they look at the -- rose eight you don't word. The super stars of this game although many of whom have been tied to steroids what do you say to your kids when you tell them. About this win win win you know visually. Pragmatically. They are -- using steroids makes you the best."
" The other these -- epic scope besmirched its its location because it's still. About health risks associated with the you know all of -- and the morally and ethically. Did ditto it's we've got to care enough about right wrong. It's actually it's not a the hard part right now like you know -- orders can be -- huge market because there's a lot of people with. A lot more normal letters after the may mitigate swipe an eight. Who don't believe it is a bad thing. In and doctors from Leo saying. Done right it's good for you. You know -- that's that's the top pieces about that and so. You know detonated it comes delta you -- we've taught them in in you know that are affinity for doing the right thing."
" The important thing now -- the the most important thing here is that. They will be scared straight you have to be ethical moral honest. A look at many it's a holy believed that could be however though I think most of them. While they may aspire to be Major League players look at this and say I will never get to that level I'm not going to be tested because I'm not going to rise to that the that occasion. I can do this this might be better at the high school kids may believe and you know Myung major leaguers right. That is if if ever Lange Gloria is tempered right now on what was ever attempted to cheat. He's looking and Manny the and they -- while people I don't want to go through that I don't want to live that life and I'm gonna stay clean. -- and hopefully does because."
" Leo aren't part right now is sending reservists of two of the best players --"
" I have my doubts about you actually can."
" If I would definitely -- closed over."
" Well which which leads -- the skirt if you were not blessed with the talent and the success on and done a lot of hard work went into that that you had. If in fact you worry borderline career triple A pitcher would those ethics and and and moral barriers that you talked about being as high for you."
" I hope they would. I stereo typed unfortunately answer. I don't know --"
" You'd ever going to -- K and Europe borderline hall of Famer with a little help with a needle you've got whittled it."
" Which were the concern for for orbiter ago. Though pulpit I don't know I hate -- though. I've brought carelessness you guys have -- summit talks about ago. Morally -- ethically would be kidney and made thirty million bucks. Out of -- gave. The okay with the army had. There -- its its. There's some legitimate it's not -- those black white country are lessons to kids and young people to -- closers there's a lot of people that are. -- the other -- on most of it it's it's not bad for you and being in the results and change your life forever in the it's tough."
" And if your pitcher and you're facing bonds and and McGwire and Sosa could rationalize -- mind hey I am a complete disadvantage here."
" Yeah -- it was spirit. I start taken a lot of mostly come back goes to -- to -- Bond certificate but I don't -- elect on. Jason but -- excellent is that. These particular about. Couple more like well he's special to do what -- do the good news there at the present a particular vote on. Jeter. Though period it's if -- can we do all the -- perspective surprised at. It's. I don't know if if in my blog post was but."
" The things that are I've got a lot of developed hey listen you've always talked trash about people with too. Steroids security -- they did back although lawyers to world surge is tainted. -- both boats stop. -- I think we can all agree. That. The players cheated their way to another kind of local Wakefield. I think if you assume that. Every ten or less. Have a fifteen years. Weather -- physically what Walters spoke to anybody doing anything that the live picture here. About these topics real."
" It's -- to like the people say and many wasn't doing it here here he just go right up there and of course who's doing it here but I was thinking about that how many World Series teams winners -- Clemens and edit or on the Yankees."
" I don't know. We're also told do we."
" Louis Gonzales and an alias tested positive -- 57 bombs and -- skinny -- meet the Perot used to be. He was on the Arizona team we view."
" But -- mean there's there's it's seen its -- lead its fate of bleak assessment now. There's in the stated he could say you know what. -- You know or or also point though. Where you're gonna need to become proactive -- the units and other voice services the question want to carry it need to go out. Test yourself in and run through late far stricter test in the players get in and about 2000 I've -- Does it I've never done that. I've never tested positive in every -- otherwise I'd still like."
" a hundred years from now how will people still care about this game look at that -- gets moved out of indexes but it's a bad guy anymore just a few decades later a hundred years from now the sort of just be a little little bump on the horizon."
" Well. You know we are playing steroid era -- I didn't -- it -- that are currently in -- but it's very clear debate of I think it's going to be. One little speaker bullet Specter -- it is it and says -- ever -- so right."
" Love ya do if you go to -- adult he's booked you know. While they're what they're a lot of players. There -- a lot of players. There's a lot of story at eight. It's given -- point now where I don't forget don't you know western epic it's good to go back."
" I agree but don't you think it's unfair to guys like that would you be surprised if you -- Greg Maddux was -- Would be."
" weekend and not really. No I was surprised and war. -- Everything I think they know --"
" I don't I don't know what to think as far as. A lot of it. You'll always assumed it. The problem was that the poster children for future. So everybody assumed grew up about all of us guys get huge super muscular it's the -- it's harder to understand and that. Police smart guys. Did it. It knew how to do it and it didn't have Peyton do with giving. Stronger healthier longer being pressured -- believe that's the number one reason why baseball players would do it. And knowing what I want to Brevin Kuerten and -- that would -- artists scheduled sports it's the hardest scheduled to work in the ability to be April fresh support the first is an enormous advantage. -- like him but I can find something that is not going to. Can hardly important a lot of deep one in medicine and then I can do it can not get caught him even if they test yet probably won't get caught. If that's a huge -- I picked up some of the reasons why you a lot of players float that."
" and should be -- you know out in the end you know it's just. I can't I'm kind of tired of the guys that are caught red handed. So excuses. Are forewarned. Now --"
" They're guilty of not just cheat and but the discuss the arrogance just it'd be a mean."
" medical -- for calling it stupid. You know it's like. Yeah I had general -- bull -- semen in my. That I have no idea how it happened. It really."
" I meant what are the man you know what would have liked via multiple kids or something new values disease."
" Just well I don't pretend it is. I don't know if she doesn't -- but it actually read complete flip back west and on. It's interesting that. The physical. Impact -- CH in and it's it's obviously pretty it's -- on on doping body. No. No I don't -- I I agree I remember. Seeing them basically. I remember being a book but -- kid in the mets' clubhouse but I don't believe in total balloon."
" Is he explains he blows the lid off of -- lame alibi from yesterday by our explains exactly what HCG. Is used war and he used that he can sicken you. And he says this for a hardcore serious steroid users."
" Didn't end. -- that's the hard part with -- with -- is is you know there was always whispers. Oh -- look back through Cleveland based development. Always. Always test and it was one of those guys it was wild guys -- tempered the whisper with the work -- You know he eat but. You know again. Tremendously. In Iraq for example here what are their way to -- road course although they played there many same thing."
" Clemens Clemens is Greg's."
" Exactly all of them -- workaholic yeah and you know they were doing that to maximize the benefit of those Cheney. Unfortunately that but -- For media start to sit back and go okay. How many of the guys they're dismissed out of hand because they were there were -- off the charts. Because there's a lot of -- yeah. Edit it right circle back within a play from the guys that play and you know it is just. Being one of the best and only in working your ass off and what seems to beat. That the only consistent criteria were catching on every player. -- really -- about it seems to be the opposite of cute things. It would make -- direct and you wouldn't do -- Marty better than most people. And it worked my ass up I don't need that. That's seems to -- exactly why people doing it right."
" If if you're compelled to be the best and if you are are of the personnel to work your ass off that there's a third thing that you can add to that mix that that that ensures the success of the first two. You were people so."
" He can't see that it's big -- to dangerous path to go down it has. Now you you -- anybody that you could look at say well could that be reason to do it and promote you know the hard part is. Ray Kelly was what is it was a very different very close friend -- You know it's one moment he was for Scott decision on what to distort. Rick was very clear about the moral choices Paul Byrd couldn't be. One of the more morally and ethically. -- standard guys that govern don't. David -- you know he talks about what -- people system was and so you know there are some. Any guy to nation too smart to educated. All the criteria he would assume what's optional can do it seems to be exact opposite it's really cute -- that debate about it. But it really sparked the scare eight that they can. -- may be contaminated percentage wasn't that far off. But the hard part is that you know we live together. Off so it's. I can understand. That the offseason the guys you know if that's what happens and I'm not really sure that that or talk about just biopsies and it appears that created that. Prepared to be too little -- there's an ability to do it during the season to -- So what you would assume and I think it's as safe assumption to make that that."
" You know. I've played guys that were doin' stuff. Other than in recreational. You know they were -- cocaine and other stuff. And I couldn't guarantee you -- knew exactly what sensitivity and oversaw. And I would argue that if you're gonna seed -- players like it would be another player. OpenId but we're together with the governor more with the the team are perfectly. I've never seen it I've never ever seen anybody can just inject swallow. Any of this stuff. And that's the thing to death took both the hard part for Peter rationalize. They could just say it is 82% of big winners. How are also possible. That for twenty years. What do you guys on every team I've played on. We're doing it you know story appreciate -- I've ever saw anybody do."
" Notably because they wanted you as a teammate to think they had reached that level of proficiency on their own without help."
" But but -- goal athletes want to know that there's always be idiots. Who wolf today dude off in the -- on the cycle."
" That's called Jose Canseco."
" By pointed toward point three years there -- there -- a very there was more than one of those guys -- might. They are would've seen. A we've been exposed would somehow also weigh. In go to bed oh my god it's very well. That there's some -- in --"
" And Lenny dykstra never did that."
" Never came out instead I do accuse I got a strong do it but it was. You do. I think what state that everybody accepted that eight people are -- 140 pound order -- Deficit to -- familiar eight. I don't want it. It was after an outreach site his contract. That he became very comfortable -- you know. The problem -- have a."
" Good vitamin what was his line I just real environments with a school."
" Yeah yeah I mean and that was spell but that was later in the year -- might be because by the frequencies. That was later than -- it was at the beginning was all worked my ass. And so there are X but again it's -- it's 80% of its place you would just to Seoul. It's -- follow somebody do it it just it didn't happen."
" way by the way -- Jose Canseco you're good friend amended. His estimate he thinks now it's a 180. To a 100% -- yesterday."
" That is the gators are bottles -- it is you know the bottom -- it was mr. Morse shortly court action on active. People's lives. Well applaud your arms out and also an ego stroke -- Ricky remorseful music Altria. And anyone that. The book and then he talks about he -- from any particular after four weeks ago is no doubt whatsoever Manny do it just kind of gas. And guess right. It's so we're at a point Time Warner. He really -- yes and that wrong yet although he was dead wrong about climate in but he was dead wrong about climate. And and it was all about I only want logic to it like it's a trend -- That. And so it's ridiculous game though if you think about it because. He talked about another bank has so you know this could people back it would explode. And now as well as -- all. -- that anybody yet."
" Well if you were -- that would be surprised now. Here here's here's what's come to hurt the south Saturday is I'd be surprised to pull Holtz hasn't done something in his career."
" I would love to sit here and tell you I feel -- same way. I believe but I it. Is possible -- to be in shape up to think that they've. That way anymore because. You -- you -- pool as a probable guy if he does all of any -- doesn't sort of -- Put. What other guys you know -- going to do about it that. Also in the first superstar in the game. Who works at bats silent. It is better than everybody else that didn't accept stabbed. And that's what I think what -- for like. Is going to be the first --"
" Character it what all of this has wrought here here's the next shoe to fall it and it's very parochial with some very Boston whether it's right or wrong whether it's fair or unfair. That was -- start now we get past you know the the that the shock but the the salacious -- a -- David Ortiz was buddy is now and that's what we're seeing."
" And and Coke and again. Envelope poppy good depth and but I could play doubles that can say -- How you'd have to you'd say that's not true what what what what happened -- right but it'll test proved that. That's the that's the problem that was that there's nothing you can do as a player unless you go to MLB. In your request your drug tests. From 2001 through today. And you let somewhat photograph them keep what about parents and tell everybody then Clayton. Bennett only -- well some people say okay because -- people that we can't catch an acute anyway but there."
" Thank Eugene -- thank you don't fear. -- to appreciate it. -- On the AT&T -- AT&T. Your world --"