Dave Krieger, Denver Post

" Probably following the the stuff out of Denver more closely simply. Because Josh mcdaniels is the first year head coach out there but let's be honest. The trade of Matt Cassel to Kansas City and now the subsequent trade of Jay Cutler to Chicago has got to fall following what's going on in Chicago and Denver and joining us right now. Up from the Denver post on the eighteenth -- hotline AT&T your world delivered. Is Dave Krieger hey David -- Michael how are."

" Good guys I -- Michael while I know man was going on now are now gone to a better that you are making out. I read your story you're you're all your bed or. Else. What else --"

" is -- people in Boston the first seven words I -- Really. Be still our hearts -- the men day you just as the bottle strapped the next day it was."

" I just came back from the parade actually my -- you know confetti coming out from the downtown windows you know. People have been dreaming of this state for some of them they're whole lives."

" now tell me what's wrong with this get you know first round pick. This year you get a first tropic next year -- get a third round pick this year and get it."

" You get Kyle Orton. The guy who was who was whining and you -- there."

" Michael. Remember back QB days. Of course you remember how good draft -- look before they became people. -- depends on the draft let me -- Kenyan name one person. 188. That. Ricky Williams brought. In that deal and liked -- he gave up his entire draft or it's."

" 15. Of the now --"

" I mean we'll give us like give us what you that you look that up activists and don't really know what. The tide then yeah. It was -- and then I look at."

" In the last ten years only three players have drawn to first round draft picks in return for their training one with Ricky Williams from New Orleans to Miami. One was Joey Galloway. And one was -- John Johnson out Cutler becomes the fourth in the last ten years I'm maturity -- worth 21 round draft picks is that your point --"

" No I mean I think it all depends on the picked you know first round draft picks sound wonderful that one happens to be number eighteen. The Broncos in 2007. At seventeen. Traded up four -- the thirteen to pick Jarvis Moss who has been complete dead weight on the roster percent so. You know it may turn out to -- guy -- about -- player it may turn out to be someone that you can't remember his name two years. So it's very speculative. And Jay -- is not -- Jay Cutler is. Quarterback with every tangible asset that you want. NFL quarterback's size strength arms straight grain mobility. All of that at any point five years old. And the objection is that he seemed petulant -- petulant absolutely. That's -- most of these. Star quarterbacks are at the way it is sort of like movie -- they are actually. There's self involved how they live because people think there's no but there were like five years."

" Where he said he at the brain his brain was frozen. Right after he heard that that the Broncos were discussing him and it -- potentially. How would you have handled the situations go way back. Forget about joining this story already in progress go back to the beginning what would you have done. If you were if you were Josh mcdaniels and pat ball in. What do you do when Jay Cutler comes out and says I'm pissed off you guys kind of movement."

" Well I would've started earlier than that our Josh mcdaniels I would stop. National bill on my way to Denver the first time. January 12 whoever was an -- to accept the job. Would've been my first stop you've got a franchise quarterback he's just lost not only the head -- drafted him. But he's probably about to lose the offensive coordinator -- east -- to be -- probably gonna fire. And the first thing you need to do is to establish a relationship with this guy to reassure -- the let him know that your offense is good for him. Let them know that you want a franchise quarterback running your office. Doesn't that just didn't do any of that. He didn't tell Jay Cutler in advance. Of his straight conversations about access. He lied to him afterwards about the nature of those conversations insisting that the Broncos just answering the phone. When Jay Cutler had information through bus cook the -- actually initiating conversations trying to bring their teams in which was required drastic and scenario would Matt Cassel. And after that it became very difficult to repair because Jay Cutler is a very bright guy. He was convinced adjustment and applied -- he was convinced -- and has continued. To -- for the different quarterback which may be true. And he decided to -- the --"

" But let's play the game from from jay Cutler's perspective on March 16 you have your agent. Ask the team to trade he. And all of a sudden you're at some UFC fight a couple of nights ago in god knows where I -- want to be treated when you kidney."

" Yeah I think you know. To some extent were responsible for Vista you know we go up to a guy at a companies. Spectator the ultimate fighting championship. We got a question we get that answer I got that answer from Matt Holliday. -- out over the Rockies traded Iraqis have to treat him because Matt Holliday turned down their contract -- And yet. When you go to talk to matter in Oakland camp and spring training he says you know it's a shame that it ended up this edit really wanted to -- this. Well its actions positive but that regret. Sort of post divorce. Is very natural it's very human -- you get from virtually all players after. Some comic tumultuous situation like this religious. Expressing general regret for the fact that it got went as far as it."

" But it gave excellence is one thing when you won't return the phone call forget Josh mcdaniels. Of the guy who figuratively -- your checks what do you think's gonna happen."

" Well see there's no dispute about that there's -- factual dispute about that. Bolt bus cook and -- that they didn't hear from anybody at the Broncos until the day of the Broncos made the announcement of that Tuesday. That that morning. Brian Sanders the GM calls bus cook and says pat Poland -- speak Jay Cutler right now. The domestic JJ out all days go to the ultimate fighting championship that -- I don't know what he's going to kit yet it is self involved kit that that is how a lot of you star athletes are anyway he doesn't -- agents call this is one day that night. Pride banners called post -- but has yet heard back. The Broncos put out their announcement about Jay Cutler side of that that they tried to reach for exactly one day."

" They let me ask about apple like him from afar I like about allowed the fur -- he wears when he when he comes here -- Foxboro. Pretty smooth guy somehow always -- double that and although he's endeavor I. I don't get that the -- if you have now taken this approach of never trust anyone over 42 run your franchise because blind Sanders is the -- 38 years old. Josh mcdaniels is 32 in -- in charge and do you question -- they know what they're --"

" Yes I do -- certainly do now have it was the first thing you do is drive off the -- as much -- quarterback and that's a little weird. A little odd always start but. You know apple and fell in -- with just within during one interview. You know and he trusts his own instincts because the last time he fell in love with coach guy's name was Mike Shanahan worked out really well. The difference is that yet know my chance. Who had been an assistant here under and -- for years. It's known for years we've not been nearly ten years when he brought them back in 95 head -- you know Josh mcdaniels for like two and half hours. When he decided that this guy and there are times when he looks you know little feeble -- 65 now and and there are times and people wonder you know everything's working right. Because it was a whirlwind deal and then he gives mcdaniels virtually all the power of the Chan and his whole point when he fired Shanahan was too much power one guy I'm in charge now with an erotic. Tight ship. You can bring in just -- apparently gives them everything gave chance because Jeff Daniels proposes to -- quarterback who at all what it called. Too much for Apple's."

" CNN that's what the follow up on that because people word. Shock yesterday here when I said you understand -- Josh mcdaniels at 32 years old never having held. Training camp in his career is now the number one football guy. Endeavor he's more powerful than Sanders isn't."

" Yeah I mean Sanders is capped. And you know when personnel department when just against those hired in January. Guy who's on the personnel department Jim Goodman longtime NFL and but he was perceived I guess as to quote Shanahan -- and I think there was some concern that Shanahan landed somewhere else Goodman while. They are good man and his son who had become number two guy and -- the guy who remain yet been brought in to help them. With cap issues and contract issues that sort of thing and so I think your job is basically. Administrative. There -- if you know twenty years ago this franchise Dan Reeves and everything on the football side John speak with the -- many people who wants."

" Still don't know who he is I had never heard of."

" Now as an NFL official Michael you spell -- but you know you just and that he did the people."

" David in. Whether it's sports talk radio when Denver people walking up TE in the supermarket. What's the feeling among bronco fans in Denver and we know they're like Red Sox fans in Boston about Josh mcdaniels."

" Well it's very split and I would say it -- about 5050. Because you know he made people choose between him and the quarterback. And you would think that it was I would've thought it would have been overwhelmingly on. Dick -- side but to me it's been a very uninteresting. Exercising the power of propaganda. Because in January. Jay Cutler was you know citizens want in Denver. 95% or more bronco offense was that they love. And today three months later he has not taken snapped in the Europe but nothing about his performances abilities change. Months later probably 50% think the whiny crybaby in good reasons and that's because the Broncos organization has basically. Told them to think that and they follow and they love and they are loyal to the Broncos organization even if it's run by a brand new that if they don't know. And so I think it's right down on the metal they're people who think Josh mcdaniels commitment. Clean house which needed to happen. And now announced that upload draft picks in the world is a wonderful place the rise in beckons. And and there are people who think he has no clue don't they just gave away the only -- that the Broncos at the distinguished them from a bad. And you know an -- built into the draft after he signed the budget Thirtysomething defensive backs telling them who's going to win anyway."

" You reluctant. -- than colon I. Always -- like there's you haven't I don't get the over. The age I I got I got Dave Dave -- story hook it. -- a might -- at left Chicago. Come back the -- That moment in Boston. And you know -- and I missed -- that would become I want to be practical people close to that -- close to your family. -- get away from us."

" Bears just -- try to help you Michael that's always try to help me out I guess so -- is there any doubt. That that Josh mcdaniels now has to draft the young quarterback whether it's Mark Sanchez or whoever he's got to get himself the young quarterback now 'cause Kyle Orton probably isn't it."

" Now -- I think there is plenty of doubt about that and not recommended that the that the way to recover from this is to use some of these draft picks to move up in. -- Mark Sanchez who appears to be the one quarterback in this draft. Trust McCain does not have some objections to but. What from what I understand what distinguished the bears' offer from a bunch of other offers multiple draft -- was Kyle -- That just a scandal like this he's assistant guy. He has a very good record in Chicago I don't know how that happened -- a great record the bears' stock. And how that but. You know that. Apparently -- thanks to Kyle Orton is the guy can plug into this system. You guys know just again this is all about this system. This New England offensive system is miraculous really all you have to do is put in competent people who do with their -- In this system will be achievements. In that context. Afraid that he thanks Kyle Orton will be any good for."

" Now what should go way back now. Back to the time when. We thought that that Josh mcdaniels wanted Matt Cassel if Matt Cassel had wound up in Denver. And Jay Cutler somewhere else no draft picks involved just. Castle for -- How would that have played. In the -- mile high city."

" I think Michael probably would've been about what we have now which -- event would have about half the people trusting in the new coach. And saying look what he didn't Matt Cassel last year -- Lebanon but I'd never played before so that's wonderful and do it again here. And what of that half the people stand you know you just degraded the quarterback position for a guy that this guy is comfortable -- must be really insecure. And you know Matt Cassel took a sixteen and -- team in May eleventh. And they would mr. Cutler at that think the split. It's bizarre I don't know you know. There's some some of these sports issues where all the people who are politically conservative or on one side and all the people were politically liberal on the other. You start to think this is how people brains are wired they just yet one -- the other. That was sort of the case here where all of -- Republican lever forward in favor of the organization the employer and although liberal left is fired from work -- the employee. That seems to be yeah --"

" I've read that Josh mcdaniels has already called to team meeting so far. About all of this I ask you with the reaction was among the sports fans of Denver what's the reaction in his own locker room."

" Well it is really depends on what part of the locker room you're talking about he's turning over the roster very rapidly. He started signed you know upwards of sixteen free agents somewhere between 68 and I can't keep track. He's cut an equal number of people who allowed their contracts expire and have them walk. So the people that he's brought which are already numerous three of -- former patriots. Which he signed you know the first day of free agency. They are loyal to him and they are completely not only buying his line but that propagated you know coming out and spinning it. And the old -- there are holdovers are just be real careful because clearly their jobs. And so and nobody saying anything negative she Tony Scheffler the tight end a judge or logical -- probably on the roster. Is also set to be on the trading block. Of the adjustment that has denied that -- But he did not show up for a -- to policies camp that that the those kind of to."

" You know Dave I'm still stunned I shouldn't be because the -- long time ago announced on that pat bowl and who seemed to love Mike Shanahan moved on from a does that surprise you to this day that Mike Shanahan is a not football we'll be now with the Broncos."

" Yeah I mean you know -- ball had said he could -- here as long as you want it it says that repeatedly. Which seemed like this look stupid thing to say you know given whatever could happen. And and hit repeatedly defended that action and it was the guy would be the first ones you want the but it in other in my cause I'm sure you've seen there it -- sort of condition that takes over when a guy has total power. For a long time. Almost despite himself. -- disappears. And intimidation takes over in charge of everything he controls the monster and so when things start to go out there really isn't anybody argue. Really isn't anybody's say you know this is so long ago and I think that's where it got to -- apple saw that if you can -- had no -- anymore. -- and it Shanahan also blown apology kept. And it all these assistant coaches and having people personnel department is totally charger football sides week at the authority -- The apple on broke. And so you put all that together and that Poland. Claim but he -- in charge but now of course the public."

" final question I mean we heard whispers from two time zones away are there. Questions in Denver about lifestyle issues for Cutler."

" Yeah and that's that was sort of the whisper campaign and it it never really came up until all this stuff came -- But there are two issues one is the diabetes and the other is the combination of drinking and diabetes. You know he was created the Pro Bowl at the bar. He also was Eli Manning but nobody talks about Eli Manning to have that -- I've before the trade yesterday before I knew I would have to right that. I actually talked to a woman who run the diabetes program for a major hospitals here in Denver just to find out if this is a legitimate. Concern. And she said it was not to describe very specifically the action and alcohol on the liver and also. Beer which is a whole different process. Because carbohydrates. And one reduces sugar production and the other is the opposite effect but the bottom line is if you monitoring your blood sugar. Today technology these poems they wear -- in the though. You know you -- you weigh in your font in any case. The worst symptoms of diabetes don't develop for years so retired regardless."

" Want to remember now there's no cheering in the press box with the press conference today you're gonna have to keep your emotional Mondale I gotta keep it down but."

" Actually Michael -- it."

" No cheering particular -- like him who allowed it might be it might be encouraged in some play."

" That but that's like that you're out. You guys to everybody."

" That's at that point Dave we really appreciate taken a few minutes the Jonas thank you guys are takers up Michael Arctic -- that is that Dave Krieger from the Denver post post joining us on the eighteenth the outline. AT&T your world delivered."