Vic Carucci, NFL.com

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" Football until you muscle Buffalo showed up here and in doing it's a far cry it's a far cry from what we Spears about three weeks ago brother Vick. --"

" If yes exactly and did not. I came back that it seemed like do we know who's."

" Alliance and the looser and ultimately -- the -- all of us it is it's on the line stories where there all the -- accident and a trip as well also -- how does a good job -- up my time to my advantage. And I -- totally totally totally -- there was a favorable to shut -- the difference is there's different judgment grass -- big got paid for being out there right. I paid to be out Waldman it was -- I could not -- yeah. That's what I think it's just tell us your take. -- Sure -- like let's let's say yeah but I."

" Did it is -- terrific football after I graduate in May this weekend what they do battle against the pictures to a seemed Ellis depiction of what seemed like shots. It would be great yeah but both -- dreaded what was your out what was your take on the steal."

" Well I think most -- I don't think that that some some patients could have been in place. To perhaps allow that the Patriots began a little more it sounded to me I talked him. I just a few people have only who's who's sort of structured dispute that. They in the -- leading two free agency. The the gate that the market would be engaged for Cassel and -- bit of what they were hearing the Patriots were very well Bill Belichick was hearing. Wasn't so overwhelming that that may -- that the best thing that would be out there was exactly what the chief offered I think this notion that a little discount. For someone that he really don't know who writes -- Work well we'll go all those years is that Scott pioli I think is ridiculous that I don't think -- not the world Bill Belichick operates is that political Republican. Yeah they had they -- took the route to a good and a birdie there -- just say okay did we get the best possible deal. And you know my -- is a franchise quarterback which is what used to the Chiefs. Is going to be worth more than that but this sounds like. You know bird in the hand and maybe it was going to get too complicated to try to simulate it other things could work out what the real deal that we -- talked about. Plus the long term contract that vessels going to receive from any team that took him. That it took this and and ultimately wanting to rip themselves would be sixteen point four or work fourteen point 65 -- was so. That put the number one priority."

" Yeah I think you're right I think they needed the money and ended up signing James Sanders shortly after that but he needed the money. To go and do some other things and I think he probably will be active this week not the top tier guys but I think he'll be active but didn't back the year your point about. This new softer gentler and probably. Bill Belichick. I don't know where this is coming from it yet. You watch it we're just watching during the of the break to -- used to run here on ESP and do it off and there and they're also they're talking about you know that he did this -- Favorites. What. How they need to investigate how is it that this guy has has guarded this reputation of being a tough hard nosed. Business guy not worrying about anybody else's feelings and suddenly with people are questioning the deal and maybe not understanding exactly how it all came down. That the certainly going back on the personality thing right bill was suddenly become else that's."

" That's ridiculous. I don't -- or 88 seconds and again -- it is all about business. Definitely it is still the same guy he's always been in terms of his approach -- things business -- But that is disciple of the same guys got -- probably -- take -- in Kansas City still tremendously it has. Very much any India New England moved. And that Josh mcdaniels for his part in. In Deborah is already well for the better feathers of these. Starting quarterback and they can -- about their business it much below and that's saying you know doing this just for the sake of well of being proper hard edged about it all that's the way. That been seen it's to succeed in work with the past is that we're going to bring it there so this is not about helping -- out I think it's about. Is as they were concerned their schedule for getting cap relief. Did not. Coincide I guess with other offers that might have been there I still think there were better offers to be that I guess when you look -- everything. If you look at -- the Patriots draft history as well. Running a second round pick is probably more valuable to them going forward in the and the number of picks that they have with -- now in the first. Cluster of I -- is is going to be better for them than having no. Still the overall physical all of."

" Something you said earlier with what -- it looks hard but that. Free agent market dries up with quickly these guys about it and they didn't have rolled to sign guys."

" Yes solid I think that's particularly well I hope this market is a little different than we're already we're not even what are we three days into it and where -- here too. I mean could you free agents -- obese side I I don't know what -- you never know what the market is for a guy. Jitters and though it picked up I don't know what they've targeted. There's room now to target if they want. Say that you know the name Julius Peppers Paltrow I don't know that he's a good. Patriots sit a guy who is as a reputation person. Take it to bounce off and so forth but yet we also know that that we the -- Thomas the pats have identified those those big time. Sort of free agents and have not been afraid to go after them they can't do this now but actually anybody besides today's vote in is rooted to -- not saying then that you know a ton of money like the guys -- the first."

" Peppers is a computer to. Was not creative creative yeah but my point is it so don't you think they shoot -- an early -- and that if they're gonna do it in that dispute patient at the not into an early."

" Well I. I -- strategy is -- work with the value of the pull out of what you're given up and I I don't these guys feel that. You didn't put aside just put aside everything is just just identify the value of what Matt Cassel. To rule another team to the Kansas City Chiefs will not only answer is in the eyes of Scott pioli are really going at certain. Sufficient answer is starting quarterback and and this is the perfect landing spot for him obviously because of what people -- the bottom and and really understands the system in which he's comfortable appropriate result going to be pretty much sent. All that makes sense but he -- franchise starter. He knows more he is better -- had I mean they are that would have been -- more unknown quantity."

" The community food confront what kind of have a draft and most other teams believe that. But no trouble with the market that's your definition of a market the -- Winger to boost to what felt that way that they."

" Yeah I got two teams are guys that know about close. I'd like him an Oscar and a little bit standoffish. But most of the most -- after kept right I'm ready quarterback in almost given a -- other and other issues that we're hearing might have been a problem here is the fact that he signs. That franchise. Tenders and he now has fourteen point six million bucks right he's -- Kansas City with fourteen point six million -- they have worked out -- Right that's right but there's still that unknown. In this still led bargaining that has to go on as opposed to Julius Peppers is a slight difference doesn't sign that --"

" he did I mean Ryan Wagner you're exactly right it would have to be. But it would have spoken some kind of the trade issue I -- it negated. But but -- seven under I think. -- I won't be stopped. If Scott pioli didn't have a handle on the parameters. All of what castle of the other long term -- BO will slash. I think it's six or seven years -- we could almost -- the numbers right here. Just in terms of six or seven years and had however many million per year starting quarterback -- could be 1012 million here."

" Well to go off of a match Joba was sixers -- 48. -- was to what is six era and a thousand years ago and and he plays go. This job for him."

" It's but he was a back up whoever decided. --"

" The -- already got fourteen point six guarantee. -- zero Garrity in the."

" Except well we'll get better far body. You know he's going -- more than the -- more than fourteen. Point 65 guaranteed yeah substantially but well I don't there's any doubt about that it eight did it didn't know at and then and then however that the average of the deal worked out over so many years. But it'll be competitive way -- starting franchise type quarterback the only thing that not commensurate with that is percent drop like I don't think Mike Vrabel. It's somebody just ignores this the right though he was Detroit and I know there's a sense -- I mean not impact on -- investors will be kind of but he will be difficult. To the Chiefs only wanting me to that conclusion to look forward political conversion. 3234. You know that knowledge base but he brings coach on the field but the all the."

" Yeah that's all we're trying to do more puzzle was because I think Friday. We couldn't figure out what they were doing we now believe that this was -- to complete anyway he was not going to be with this team. And so it was a matter of avoiding the million dollar signing bonus at the roster bonus on March the first and being able to race all the money. Off the cap as opposed to cutting and then having to absorb some of that but. They obviously see something different. Then we're seeing with Mike Vrabel that obviously they don't feel his value is worth four point four but I think our caps spot there -- take up maximum dollar respect for what they get somebody else pay for that money."

" Well right down I think that's that's what I believe Glendon -- the other thing is. Again the track record very strong for identifying the end. Sooner rather a year too soon rather than a year too late or whatever it might be for the Patriots are you you do have to give them that it's just. It will look it would be no. -- until we see a couple of things. And those things being. How they proceed public interest the future of the rest of free agency I would draft -- so all -- pieces are plays we certainly going with a strong. Assumption. Tom Brady's. Fully healthy. There's a good backup plan behind -- might know they think a lot we know how how much they covet. Did it value of the big Kevin O'Connell. And and what he means to them. As a back the -- forward -- use their future at the position all that good stuff. All but it -- see all these things fall into place and also how Cassel. Those respond this question marks but if you -- other teams have they do they come to fruition what he's addicted city uniform who knows. That's what we're going to -- right we're going to have an ultimate judging of this bill but it it's censored part of this right now. It it's it's not unreasonable to say it looks like they gave this guy up for the."

" What do for the one of the often. We it was not. I've been nicer guys if someone wanted -- want to get that rookies that may want to get a free agent market and so. If so you know winners -- there was nothing else I think yeah I think though that the Vick is right if you waited out -- you get it was going to be and I cannot only -- you're -- win -- lamb you also -- but you also put yourself in the position where. You're up against that cap numbers they signed two players last week they had to sign. Sanders now suddenly because he was -- the -- he was the top guys and their agenda and then obviously -- can't."

" About the quarterback market who who did who doesn't have and there were a football. If you if you. Oh my god prevails is looking at in an adult seem right now. There's been -- he's got a great day for the Pope and young old guy who's got an advantage of these. Well let Tampa -- doing about quarterback right now. -- I'd go to their situation also -- we know there's no trade that suggests that divisions won't forget about that but there is some kind of an."

" Yeah really was a dollar they need it. You let him. Others they can put it up if if there was a big need for budget teams and they always in my key guys that they thought was marquee guy that be a lot of activity early because they want to --"

" But I actually but I think this is an extraordinarily early for traits. To be going down like this this is the -- wanted to get a couple free agency the history of free agency recent history. This week has been devoted to free agents looked at the trading that has gone well besides castle right in -- interest they just the way facilities moves. But there have been made I mean an end and you know I hated the fact that both teams did not seem to think that. Trading players now in anticipation of what they either don't need is a better way to poke the waiting waiting for create."

" Is that having to do with the impending. Lost the salary cap."

" And that's a great point yes I think as their tickets in there I think that's that's part that's. Loading in the background of at least some of these some of the thought process."

" Up to say that if I really want to guys there's. A guy miss and at Detroit Imus and maybe the Seattle and San Francisco and in Tampa you know a public -- and I know that we all these quarterbacks. Dubya feeding frenzy instantly if it was but why would be pace who would on the teams that you think like -- makes cents all. I just think the we have a mock it wasn't what they anticipated early he'd like it's not all the fourteen points."

" because -- it and get it had to be that having an edit your response to that and it had to be based. An opinion that they couldn't wait I think that but I again I look at that I just -- the big picture and think about how. We waited and how things are a vote total would there ever. The question is. -- they don't -- that might not have been the market that he saw although if we believe. No we if we're if we're going to believe what we heard about the whole both those three way deal that might involve hawaiians and and Broncos. And Buccaneers Broncos if both feel -- real. And there were first mention of those. -- those who have. They're allowed to take some time -- come portion -- the reports are that at least would be put out there is stories is that the Broncos were too slow to get the game."

" 'cause I don't -- of their level that's part of it the other thing that we're hearing is. The people are assuming industry way deal. That because Denver was going to hear of take from. From Tampa Bay giving -- Cutler. 81 and third that that was not was you were becoming new England's way. For Matt Cassel that we were still dealing with a second round draft pick -- it would be actually lower than the one the Kansas City and out on the on the today."

" Well as -- and I think some some some pieces that have to come into play. The people in the reputations of those especially in the Patriots side. Make in this still have enough of a track record of success that you did you give them dissidents say okay I guess third stimulating circumstances. I still you know I'm I'm I'm just just looking at that at the what Matt Cassel have regrets. I I know I'm in the camp of believing. He's world war smaller and Logan and is going to prove as much I think he's got I think it's gonna work out well I saw a quote -- the development of quarterback there I'm not is. Skeptical as as some people aren't and and I am sure there are people. There are skeptical but I think this guy this guy is a legitimate. Starting quarterback who who have and --"

" You know what I I think we don't and we wanted to reprisals and they and we were surprised that they didn't get more and we're looking at your New England. Decades almost thinking that we overvalued. Because we watched him every Sunday but the part that did that becomes illogical here. Is the first when they keep on hearing. The Belichick that's often -- help a lot of -- not going to do with her now and -- that's not going to happen. On second and second of all. I gotta believe that's what existed in the market as of Friday and Saturday because -- not going to take any lesser deal. If there's a better deal on the table the point that you bring up that I agree with. Is Claudia who waited this one out. For another week or two and what that better deal that popped up. It might of in this got to be reason that he didn't do that and my. Guess at this point is that he needed that money. For something else and he wanted to make that deal happening and let's. And -- the only told him he was going into a different direction if he couldn't get an original thought economic times is going to make. A miscalculation. Field."

" I don't think he does it doesn't happen if it's I'm not to -- it never happens format that happen often and and and I think eight I think the other dynamic of this -- if you just brought up -- what is perspective is. He you know I didn't know that it would always be a slam dunk for him to end up with Cassel. It seemed like a likely landing spot I'd get a piece front of the outcome. Great -- week before the com bank. Are -- that we were relentless for the constantly what I read have to respect them. Saying. Eliciting some possible places for him to go one of the things I've been hearing those that. Run he would do this much -- his his old friend bill go check and that is make sure you talked up the virtues of Cassel. Not necessarily with the thought of getting him but helping to enhance the market for -- And not again not necessarily fit to be the guy it would make the -- But my feeling was if if he's. If you look at it I would pick that does he know about him and and how much can he really believe in what that the ideal for a whole different groups and so right. He's not just Cassel and he's not Cassel you know also it that's why this threat is is great to. And and maybe that's the other part of this -- this is just the it was so good. No one would be more enthusiastic about getting him. -- that feel of -- also blew that. You know let's get blown some credit. You're thinking that the pats -- situation pretty well McCain not mr. -- can anticipate the thinking of both chicken and Fred you sounded okay so it's that's a little bit of patience and it's just responding to. Part of the factor that in response to the clock. I gotta feeling that Scott pioli knows exactly."

" It's not very good point it could very well be that pioli was look at the Clarkson will doubtless. I'll do the deal when I got to do it right and by the way if you want to take Vrabel was part of it and he'd probably thoughts what -- prosecutors were -- would fit. With the younger they get a good young -- promising players he can beat a good locker room presence guy so he's a perfect but you know what I gotta do it."

" I don't know right now and had to pick and he doesn't have a name his price at least that I talk with -- the other day by the way linebacker for the Chiefs and ask them about race book over the board in in and so forth. And -- right after the castle built you know. He says hey I've ever appropriate for in my life he says -- ideally we've done some concepts of it. But the conversions it is it will it I don't it's going to be a good thing but I would love I'd love in the fact that we'll have a guy that we can go do it it."

" On April coach. Right if -- he gets eliminates a salary cap so that Alex's at altitude. But you're right he's when you have that. Defects that apart stages your needs element can relate to all the plays that it's a little cup put pressure on the avocados I was -- fitted with what what they're going to bring office visit Todd Haley coached -- the -- you know advocates and a -- arsenal."

" Yeah because we. I look at this and and I think there are more dots to connect will. With the -- scheme would assist the relate to the system. And I think Haley is pretty. Plugged into that doesn't if if he -- do you may not have the direct connection -- carpet pretty much everything. That it goes down in terms of what this offense this. Is is there is there are based is it not because you go back put ourselves right -- you go backwards if you want to draw that line. I think it runs through I know he's dead in his cutting mode. Understood but I also think that. Tied for his part pretty much. Yes what that you know what you guys had -- been having. Big part of that what Parcells -- no better than I do what that means but I think there's no way there won't be our language barrier that that threat that. Kessel -- to be -- it working with Haley had no doors of some. But when things looked road Arizona's he would Kurt Warner those receivers might have been a little different than they did exactly that what we saw with the Cleveland. But not very much and I think there's an aggressiveness. And a sense that you know you you do throw a lot of things underneath to fit to have them turn into bigger plays you do use the."

" What do you got -- can read to do that that function you can have. You know quarterback like Michael Vick goes so like whoever that doesn't read things -- route despite as a way. -- guy that runs a structured offense you're going to have that for a with a bunch options we can check out. And that's obviously what the government."

" Yeah I don't necessarily proud that I know there's other think there are capitalists system quarterback that's always into the system quarterback and you take -- well. Once again I want to give. Pioli and Haley helped a lot more credit in Kansas City. They -- think that they've taken this issue out of up on that he's sort of -- it now throwing amid the something that -- water or something that he's not going to be able to handle. I think that he is there's this conversion for him -- be. That much of -- stretch I think they know what he does well again who built and also better than pioli. And what he's responded to and he gets a philosophical discussion with Haley. In hiring aliases coach I know it you know his first choice as the code was very much going to be. Josh mcdaniels that it worked out so. He he went down that was next guy next I was fairly for a reason and I think he fits the whole. Systematic and that's exactly what that's workable."

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