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Fri, 13 Feb 2009

Butch Stearns host the Big Show with Zo and Burton and checks in on a variety of topics.

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" Forget lost five minutes like. This would happen for Brett. -- I've never seen anybody eat as much steeper. Student Kelly -- forms swear to god we need you badly and you athletes who had a piece on the floor must have for us other people's army -- Week to go right after one odds are forced the second everybody -- I don't know much aren't too I guess I must really want eight days got to play your admits that nobody repeats. Scientists are usually shaky -- does basketball -- that. -- It doesn't change the whole. Question is it. I mean that is a plus I chipped it with a WR the boss just hold seats I should -- to replace -- are you at your local. Probably have put -- which he with the Vasily. Oh. Straight we're -- about would -- talked. About Bradley or not talk atmospheric. And that's. Greg and it's nice -- of the week WEEI dot com slash line. -- actually do the -- As mine likes the I went fifty bucks at home picks up stuff but Grossman's you know. When you vote sign up for outline of the week newsletter and special money stating deals from -- and -- of the week. At W. Dot com just relax which. Steed and allred. A president later Stevie. Yes Gloria. I'm doing great now good."

" I'd want to talk about -- at what should. I. On autopilot. --"

" All are my only quibble with Steve was it only -- he knows he knows Antonio's. That was my -- That was your quibble. At Duke I'd gladly tell and say that Tony others in New York City tolerance should have known. That's fun. USA -- note and tell me you know that. Do you think he did know that's my question to white Protestant look at me and you really think he -- in my opinion whether it was still with Mark -- race he was well regarding steroids or racism on little group of a lot of people in baseball that probably knew and turn their back to thank you -- that you look at the -- managing the winner. Go ahead state."

" Back at ya buddy Garnett is any -- law."

" It should log I want that man what about it back at all it was looked that the -- he. At at at home --"

" He had a second half he had a drive that at what is driving at I believe they spotted former."

" Who would want and the one I."

" Yeah they were down 24 to six at that point. Before they before they went two minute."

" Post -- draw a picture for a -- what nobody there but why all of forward. Look everybody that it was a pleasure to watch the ball the ball well. Yeah I believe."

" That was better than -- legislation O'Neal is an angry -- in your opinion of franchise quarterback."

" Steve I agree I did but is he a franchise quarterback in his and a question. You -- about a Patriots are well you better be urban entertainment straight on -- on --"

" What you let it be that I'm the only guy that -- all of these ballot that I have all. The only guy isn't what I don't want is always always always said."

" But brings a good point which obviously it is to think that these -- the Patriots put the franchise to attack isolate about the -- if you -- another team in -- targeting him minimal getting. You're going to commit 25. Million dollar signing. I mean she got thirty million so. And obviously rep Matt -- proved his work to market hasn't -- Cassel even though it's been one year of this war. Yeah that's exactly that's failures like -- Right but if you you better you better be pretty strong about you feel about the guy you better have a rationalizations your mind. How much the offence meant. To his success. The yards after the catch data that's important you what that means you how you figure that out. You know that the Patriots led the league in yards after the catch or in other words was wars Arctic Council success the system that -- and dunks in the great receivers both. How much at that we've -- I think as an emerging quarterback. These -- but he knows yet what they're -- evident that autumn so right now it is by definition -- absolutely right. I just if I don't going to trade from cast I'd feel pretty confident more confident in Matt Stafford -- engineering guy mature guys aren't here yet. Right we don't know in the Crennel and for as well as Matt Ryan did who home Matt Stafford is an ex met Ryan Malone knows. The next quarterback become button. The point is is Tommy car went up in the day. He -- the price. You gonna put a lot of people's jobs on the line if you make the Matt Cassel decision if he's your guy and you go that way. And you have a full season and eleven win season it'll lot of things to base it on -- could convince you to do. What knowing that you look at the 1111 of five. Season. And you look at what he did with that team with all the guys. -- makes a great point. -- He replaced him the eleventh hour handled the pressure start to see the president -- in April and he did this year was the first road win in New York. That was the game where he needed to winning any anything spectacular. When he -- I thought they were going to revamp the offense when he was he can have that was the game it that I think my teammates started."

" The only thing they did Brady Randy Moss -- important it yeah they shall never admitted it feels like what I did he said they get. Brady said and at that Brady Moss had the most intriguing point the entire year he says you know what we what we -- that needs to find. Himself he needs to find his -- that's true he needs that but he understands were there. It's just he's got to believe it right and it took him a couple weeks to do that he was watching rush but. Josh mcdaniels is our -- may be billed -- two and -- worked with him in practice and they start workers use you as the week progressed. He stopped watching rush he kept the -- he no wonder -- not -- didn't do as much as Brady. Was go deep to Randy -- Correct. -- he did not -- right now I'm not that is much he hit the home run its efforts to ask Donnie hip one hip want to end up -- these frustrate Kansas City -- Brady and Moss that was a connect it was -- he was able to know that you are rediscovering -- yet I need to back shoulder bracket put difference what I want when it. Breaking news. We just like oh man. The phones and figure out achievement for breaking news let's go to like Joe can -- Barrington Rhode Island hello Joe."

" They don't you. On the matchup -- I'm not disqualified scout out I urge you all our guys. -- football you know of the one of the big difference if you look at Alex Sanchez and -- like -- Stafford is you know they had all America running back until. You know it don't sharper and probably going to get a one pick you know that the -- and a little Italian."

" Take that further Steve USC and Georgia have traditionally they they produce some of the top NFL players almost every year. So they're the best talent in the country around them -- and I are going to take sixteen starts by. Mark Sanchez SC which is eleven and then not know put that up against six fifteen NFL start by Cassell."

" Look at the it says -- Cassel wing it and rather read Michael like to think of running into a lot to do that except for no particular school from its effort was number one starting in -- quarterback and I'm like increased -- would end up in -- You know and not eat fiesta -- out of."

" But don't know what -- and I'm not criticizing you specifically been doing this 'cause we all do we all try to rationalize how good a player we think somebody's going to be. At the next level the real talent comes in. And so you can tell us this from behind the scenes of projecting what a guy's going to be calm. At the next level."

" Up quickly Vanderbilt Lubbock it was. -- The other and might call to a question about in over an eight at all that it that was the big eight -- Eric do well eighties and -- and my question is. In our biggest benefit which could you don't want from the cart calling in on in the stupidity like -- the but that the question is. Went with a guy like guardian all the same. Alec Rickey Henderson who would obviously playing out of this world when he played it you think about it suspicion of them."

" I'm still trying to figure you Tony from the Caricom what are you trying to say theoretically speaking with."

" Right -- the bachelor the don't -- I illustrated Hillary didn't know he'd stay neutral in."

" in new toilets -- the question I think he did know but I don't know like what's what the argument that."

" Okay well my question is whether a guy like Ricky Henderson -- already in the Hall of Fame who donate elite eight bought it was an inept system introductory. Turns out that you wanted to name on that -- we don't know."

" That's a split that that's a great talent and everything's going to change the but he."

" An -- accent they look at the guys that got in the last couple years. What -- the entry in early in the guy RE it."

" About it did what Pete Rose in. That you know what in the -- brings an excellent point and that's what Major League Baseball does not want to Atlanta and we really believe that everybody involved in his one god did know what we -- we do we do believe it probably is that we did Thursday that it is is that true basically is naive enough to do not is that security not anymore Scott. Not anymore because guys I think kept guys like -- to keep picking out they should be the hall of Famer T Steve. I yes I think it's -- that should be -- but butch you butch. The BP yeah yeah I do okay he. Won. Both screaming name we have to do little but recovering -- a talking point which in that department of good. -- went without a sensitive today what do we find out that Hendry -- the place Henderson is on the left anybody -- there are no -- recognize -- we're -- the latest -- we find out that he's -- about it that's one -- Major League Baseball does not want to. Okay so if he finds out that he is on the list they that -- now. Decision I don't but do you think they'll -- the I put it right in my knowledge around the whole thing I don't. -- What might well there's no -- There's no actually the Hall of Fame. It was known. Admitted steroid use. Nobody's admitted to step up right and then got in the so when -- era of golf in Europe in in your mind me. But the case. Against that so far it is against because when you look at the votes McGwire has been getting I think and I thank -- rod eventually will get into the off. Well but I think he's tackled from going to play another decade right said that like there's going to be a lot of nine years I think people -- a lot of litmus test along the way lot of other guys that are going to come up for vote in if nobody gets voted in. It's accused or known steroid user. Rights era it's not going to get involved -- with the -- off camera enough that was Canseco that his call okay about it up to him that. You think that lose and and needed you laughed. Okay. You boats he said I didn't know there were times that we went into the stall. All three -- he he'd donate it wasn't known with the -- but it before. -- happen it -- this break a phone call this call Wilmington before all the fiscal. Where we which looked at what Jason and -- for what seemed like in a case if Jason and I practice."

" I'll make -- Well first off Scott speed it's the bush talk in cheap victory Michael."

" My -- I'll which which. Sort of public we got more real the -- who's been moved. -- to law. I am sick and tired at all -- steroid talk is well on and on our three years."

" Yeah Eric. I mean I think he wrote was -- by somebody -- actually. I respect his baseball player. Out but I just don't you know like him because he's on the Yankees I'll. Very hectic mr. because all the stuff that you know he's been brought up on like -- Madonna they can -- not left and but ole Jose Canseco -- You know -- well Jose Canseco like somebody on the inside eight. As a bone to pick and -- wisdom and this was perfect opportunity."

" Yeah but. I I understand what you're saying but he did do this. Politics. -- just say you're saying is target you're saying he's a target."

" Thank you. -- it. Now to get gospels they. I will be. -- like you called earlier. I will be flight to Fort Myers. This coming Sunday. Now on what would a guy. What was what what's a good time to get there or possibly see spot go."

" Mourning mourning you never I don't I don't have the itinerary you've never been there. I'm Brett you have the Red Sox like to Jason and he he never been there's averaged and yes. Not how we do the work outs if we can work outs. Okay you you want to go. -- I don't know the fans allowed in on Sunday. -- Yeah. They out -- to -- is not working at the first official work out as Wednesday. The whole team I mean you'll you'll have."

" it broke his rookie status go to the roaches on the -- he's hooked up on the port -- the for the four point what you want to go -- they -- on the morning -- want to -- the mornings -- and at what time. Cats which. I don't dont get some practice you know."

" Yeah academic I've been coming I have. Brent butler for -- well actually -- order which is just north."

" direct -- like Jason lorries number which at that and what did you like a station trip down there. What people -- the -- legal troubles are well let's go to any guys go one of those -- any what's up yeah I T shirts and bumper stickers."

" It's. Pick and you have your own -- Recent news doesn't want WEEI hit a little tomorrow. Well Clinton. I think I'd like to talk about depth Matt Cassel if you don't mind right all right. Scott is that it is there's still -- if date if they'd trade him right. It would be a big -- What's his name Abreu would prefer -- Baltimore do you think it alias Thomas in -- commit the common it."

" There's there's two guys see ray lewis' name has been brought up -- Brian Dawkins. From Philadelphia as far as high you know who's going to be the higher -- and people magic Ed -- to be doing is no way the Ravens are ever going to get let go that read."

" had been hit and out."

" I guess is Eddie -- he can I think raise I think race to all of the bill go that direction. But the price tag would be too high at that point I think. You look at what they've done with Q with the Gerrard -- they can even get another guy like male. The right along side inside and went on the few and far between I mean exactly Steve but when you. No I think -- trades here you're right -- already through -- a year from now of course reverend Brian and you let me ask you questions you are -- great example you'd think like Junior Seau was the Patriots Ray Lewis could be helping -- even younger than. -- is proud here's the difference Junior Seau out came from one million dollars okay. Ray Lewis last quotes last week came out and he said home town discount from our power and so the point is. He's going to be 34 years old as much as I'd like to see Ray Lewis in the uniform with the Patriots too is always right. The Patriots aren't going -- overspend. For Ray Lewis. "

" Rodney Harrison -- I -- I -- the series seven."

" They said they they didn't pay big money to run -- and rod -- said Jones terrific need to nightly gap and this thing with Ray Lewis right sort of got a ring right. Yeah yeah so it's not like a player coming no one's about as well thought Hillary airports and don't want to rank right."

" Like it Siberia Thomas could talk amid the company."

" Well watered it there was -- action behind those two out. Yet there was another history about you know reign as the radio show and you know Bayless. There's there -- some words if it's only words in between the two of them. About you know can ridiculous that in this he says will we had a fit. Davis and -- right all right I got -- they've made up since then they have and a dentist doesn't hold grudges so I got the list all the top."

" Read my position you know right and when you look at some of the -- that's for the draft but here's the problem nobody has the problem as the Patriots. I mean -- Thomas is the most high profile free agent that signed money big -- team lenient Roosevelt Cole was the first possibility you know what it -- 1818 -- eating teaching okay. For example Brandon Jacobs is out -- normally Ray Lewis Karlos Dansby with the Cardinals was an emerging line back with a franchise. Last year. You go to the quarterback position you get ticket I'll somewhat from Oakland who's probably inning for. The -- about franchise yet but if they weren't going to see the money to keep us on the Samuel do you really see them go and how it's spent in the money for one of these top free agents. It's it's almost fruitless as a Patriot to point to what those guys but they don't it's history now. That set how many times have we said quote the Patriots don't and then Igawa reduced -- you know I think bill bill looks at -- do -- I think you know his athletic ability to build. Allows him play multiple positions do some different things where. Raised day Mike backers and rays all game but they've they've learned little support from last year knowing that they had to call on. Roosevelt Colvin and Junior Seau when those guys went down when other guys out so they don't want want to be in that same position again next year drought -- huge year. The utility vehicle out drop in other young linebacker I think it's going to be interesting to see you know you got guys like here -- and Eric you know there. Eric Alexander who lot of people think a lot of pop but they serve multiple roles on this team. And the probably going to get that second round tender in Ocala the Wes walker -- when Wayne with the Dolphins try to slide anyway at all with those guys. Would offensively and defensively I would say no Eric -- awards they serve other purposes Stevens got picked our special north -- That was -- is under appreciated Steve violent people lakes restaurants and why those type guys who has won Pittsburgh Steelers. They draft guys every year that room guys -- a guy gets his opportunity to get rid of Kevin green. Somebody else comes in outside linebacker position it's it's that the problem number gas left the problem the tough part is -- as you gotta be smart in your remote because the rate was at its. I would love to see -- in the Patriot Steve that is here's the problem. You gotta look at the big picture and look at they have Vince Wilfork Logan Mankins. Among others that are coming up for free agency at the end of next year and if you give a guy big money is a free agent you're -- setting the bar for all these other guys you have to pay so it's it's frustrating to look at this was don't want one of these guys but the Patriots it's going to have to fit. The way they do business. And it'll but then you get whole Monty Beisel the world he take flyers on guys some work in some -- And it really leads you back to the decisions about Asante Deion branching you can argue that guys have never left and done anything as such is the exception. Saga was a top quarterback in the league has not produced for a team -- broke their house and so they broke the curse right in their security and got on would you further say that the Patriots on is good deep bench without them. So. That's where as a and you get a little frustrated. And maybe want to spend their money in different places wisely or and you go back to the draft. The draft as in the Portland likely in Patriots history buts candies and nuts but -- I think it's realistic. At least at the opinions of -- they was here. That they probably would have been at least second round divisional possibly. If teaching our -- team -- go to like John terrorists are not they would want the page on your on the big show."

" They kind of desperate choked up. Well I don't see how anyone could rip counselor. I just looked at the steps should you guys out. Number -- little of the attendant told about the number eleven and totally yup. The -- finished number of all right essentially tied -- that was don't know. -- total offense in the NFL. And a guy named Ben Roethlisberger finished 22 and totally. And 24 --"

" Okay now let me answer question -- and I'm not -- cap and wherever you go home with. I think castles in America to quarterback in this league. But I also think he's done it for one season. And I think he's also done it win. There's no getting around us the best offense in the history of the NFL. That's what it was just the year before so Brady went down to commit and -- not -- Matt Cassel but when you say. That Matt Cassel statistically is one of the top quarterbacks if you another team. And you see your quarterback of the future that's a whole different question. You gotta ask how much this offense was a factor for him you ask is worth it to give up. To top draft pick that could be left tackle for the next ten years it could be pass rushing guy on the outside in the edge that could you know is it worth it commit 25 million dollars that if he doesn't work out. Which a lot of quarterbacks have had one great year and -- but he Jeff George. In the one year he had Indianapolis. So are doing any of us are written Matt Cassel understand. I think it's I think. There are some questions about how good quarterback he's going to be put the what you think that the pitchers thought highly enough that they think yeah obviously he is a very very very good. And they put the franchise tag on wouldn't you also agreed that a big part of that was the business yes yes it is this yes they're protecting their investment."

" Would you agree with those fortunate. I I agree volley point you know with the team game like the guy sitting next it's. It's not just off the beach orange so but in the final note if -- if -- they Brady comes back the way. Hope to put everything goes well and cattle that action is valued just dropped a well hit hyped value was today. For the pay yeah informed -- that -- contract."

" The Patriots yes but for for him. Its look it's the same -- beat them better than any of us if he doesn't play next year. -- in all of a sudden somebody goes down and he gets treated by a public steeped in that scenario earlier. You know his value you can put it we want but now get the opportunity to play again -- doesn't necessarily mean he's going to be any worse or better than a player you get the chance to play. If you sat for a couple games you have full season under your belt yet. I mean he -- of the player he can best thing they've been able to do is make decisions that makes sense for watching our future it's not. Good football business. Two guys at the same position while one can play takes thirty million dollars so like whether or not -- can put their fort. They've never done that this will be sold for the norm. Then to do that it would be pretty much catastrophic. Of a knee injury for them to do that though I agree with you appetite and meet. Is that devastated right I agree you but if you look at the 49ers -- in them you know right okay young. -- Did young's value gold down. Win three against Baltimore there seemed to Kubel was there. In the later steak -- you could argue the young's value actually was what and I thought why not and that's my aquarium on that's right want to hang up a Collison quickly I don't think council's you know. Won't go down if he doesn't play with the market the market's going to change for the yes and the curiosity factor of how good is an -- council. That -- you know what they were track record there for young and he played him in US -- fell. And he wasn't and he was all right well that's the next one track record for Matt Cassel it was almost a perfect."

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