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Wed, 7 Jan 2009

The guys discuss the losing streaks for Boston teams and Scott Pioli

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" that's not true confessions here the minute Paul Pierce. Hit that shot with three point some odd seconds left and tied the game yet thought it was over Kenya. I -- I yet I admitted that their my family -- myself well I just question of how many they went by. All of a sudden we -- drought here we've got to drop my friend that -- and for now 2515. That's. And our last seven cents a nineteen game winning goal IE I I was interest -- talked Donny Marshal next hour I was interest of the year. Donnie near the end of the telecast last night say. You know maybe there is some reason to start to be a little worried here Celtics."

" And an alarmist Donny Marshall alarmist here in the believe it to backtracked today. Will put put SP to the fire will do the that Donny Marshall hot seat beat beat beat Donny Marshall you're on the hot seat one of those what did you mean when you said last night it is time to panic well. -- don't panic is the right word I'm -- he's going to back away from Dallas will talk about are you panic afridi."

" beat exactly BP anything really afraid of what question what should be afraid. I can tell -- and and Kevin Garnett said this I don't feel like complete idiot in saying it as well. They're defensive intensity has slipped. It is it is slipped a big hero of light and I and I don't mean just last night right the next it was atrocious. You know I mean you look at that at that Bobcats team. And you know that one low scoring at the lowest scoring team in the NBA. And it just seemed to do whatever they wanted to all my oak for for whatever reason always kills the Celtics. He always has great games against the it's like when expecting he's going. On man."

" And everybody does have a good night. Yeah but art but but -- back the question what are you afraid of are you afraid that the does that that the defensive intensity. Won't be there for the rest of the season are you afraid that the Celtics lack motivation are you afraid that they're missing a player. They need Stephon -- very they need PJ brown to end is an arm."

" Some sort of of psychic boast here and and whether it's the acquisition of Marbury -- PJ brown says he's not come back but somebody and the that they need something that. And they hit them the mid winter doldrums here. And you know it's just the little aren't --"

" See I'm not I'm not panic at all I can tell you one thing that will get him. Out of this little slot one thing -- it's a very simple thing it doesn't mean you have to get another player. You can do with this roster actually two things. Two things can up the Celtics. Switch up the the rotation I'm not talking about change the lineup I'm saying. Instead of taking KG out at -- time taking Paul Pierce out -- time you can have won it if it really meant a lot you're you're really concerned about it. Well Friday it would and time to do -- describing right if you want your mind completely on Friday -- up 38 minutes. Third everybody -- 3830 I'm. You got your. Seat. I'm not I'm not concerned at them the Celtics are missing a player. I'm not that concerned about the bench a lot of things have happened at the same time one. Ray Allen has -- a shootings it could have been hotter. A few weeks ago yeah I can't be -- can't hit a three point out pierce on the other hand is easy warming up yeah so Ray Allen little bit of a shooting slump. You've had the bench. The bench has been very inconsistent. And you had the -- the the defensive intensity as you putted. Has slipped. These are all temporary things you know dale in my -- In there about some of the philosopher here. Their guys to god who was -- itself ball against the -- as it's awful. That's got to know what I'm thank very much and a different one here -- destroy that with a couple nights ago. But the Celtics are going through one of those stretches now last year. You don't have meant -- how -- stretches like that. He had. A little blip after the All-Star game I think there was a three game losing streak. KG was just coming back he missed nine games he went 72 in the nine games that he was out. And so there was you know the little west coast trip they gave up a lot of points to December than they haven't it would the Golden State after that lost that game. So you gonna have that every season this season. It seems a lot worse because we were all talking seventy wins -- the couple weeks ago. I'm nineteen game winning streak. And then he complained that went on the Internet you know fifteen game winning streak sixteen game winning streak man you know what what what happens when I start playing well. Well. -- the Lakers. And they didn't just start play recover from that loss they just been shaky -- that out. I don't think this is a long term long term problem and I would love to hear. Donny's take on why it's time to worry that I don't think it."

" talk to home of the witness about an hour from now as he does weekly basis and get an idea you know what he things now the hard working my -- One of these employed. Currently on the employ them and Miley. Is I was telling -- month. -- and hardworking blogger. W. Behind the last ball got the news on the -- coming up. Some interest in. Where where Michael -- it'll research based on what happened because the Bruins. And the Celtics not only lose on the same night but now the Bruins lost back to back. Celtics have lost. You know think about it from the back losses. In this town pretty usual college used all. October of 2008. Was the last time you had -- of the Boston professional sports teams lose as many as two games the -- and back and you had the Sox. Losing games to Tampa Bay in the ALCS games 23 and four. And the Bruins had back to back losses against Minnesota and Montreal back in October you have not had two teams in this town. Lose two -- as the clocked. And -- and we and we went back even further we were talking about this. The last time to Boston sports teams lost on the same night. Was October 11 2000. Sox lost game two in eleven innings at the -- CS. And -- Bruins lost that game to the Minnesota Wild that we talked about all the technically. The Sox didn't lose the game until 1:35 in the morning -- the next yeah but it its start on on October October 11 was the last time. You had two teams to pro sports teams and Boston in the -- Albert."

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" We would drive them since they've had some issues with do you do you guys but you know out of the front this. Last night dale. And a strange way this all comes back there -- some news. That relates to the Patriots and comes back despite a strange -- here again. This is how provincial we are we are it in Boston and and -- We thought that would spy -- And Eric Mangini the dirty -- him. -- if he yet Prado has Ty Warren calls with the dirty rat there's no way. Anyone or higher Prado. There's no it once once she leaves the Jets it is gotta be blacklisted these. Willing to tell the secrets about about that employer why wont he tell the secret of -- I tire around people around the league talk and they may not like Belichick but they hate a -- Worse than they hate ballots well. What we're finding we're planning on a couple of things one. This -- we -- made it we make too big -- deal everybody. We were too defensive about it in New England. We were defensive because the rest of the country was ES PM today we're -- especially public crazy. And that's the commissioner went crazy yeah yeah our writers and fans in other cities. -- crazy the end of earth as we know yet we haven't thought about it much this year and guess what. Randy Lerner doesn't hear about it either because when sports news breaks we have at first the Cleveland Browns. Will name. Eric Mangini. As their next head coach and that will be that happened before the week is. Eric Mangini is going to be the coach he it's his job the job is he has got."

" Now let me let's let's take that to the next logical step -- the question I asked you earlier in the week they could've but -- well and and my point here is. Does that kind of takes Scott pioli out of the mix is general manager John to mossy writes that that way in The Herald wrote yesterday and today that. That unity he doesn't picture pioli and Mangini co existing -- said that you on Monday."

" Look at it all wrong now that's Estes is wrong it's wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong we've talked about this before. This story has been terribly report it like I it's not personal pockets -- just called got a column I'll buy and I hate people just cannot throughout these blanket statements and an -- specific. Ron Borges and care for Karen region have butchered the story they they they screw they're screwed the story they had misinformation. Chris -- and has butchered the story misinformation. And a job to Macias and that he's put to the story too."

" And but he was posing as a question. Okay I mean in in Tomas c.'s defense here. Was the last time somebody said that on the radio station isn't in Tomas c.'s defense here he was posing as a question as to you know if they did go and hire. You know Eric Mangini would that mean that that you know he and Scott pioli wouldn't be able to call."

" No Austin now known no one lets the score some of the some of the -- statements. In the Cleveland Browns Scott pioli Eric Mangini story number there was never -- deadline that was report. And then suddenly you know whatever ticket back to put it out there that there was a deadline and then. When a -- passed in two days pass in three days past people got real quiet at me so that was misinformation never deadline. From granular Q. Ready -- Scott pioli never met in New York ever. Never. -- in street. Provenance. Number three. Scott pioli. Could work with Eric Mangini. And let's be clear Randy Lerner loves Uga. He loves Eric Mangini any love Scott pioli. It wasn't an either or in if he had to make a decision and others were fat."

" For back. -- back at that it. If he had to make a decision yet. Randy if it is popular and a ball only got it to -- it mean sports fan yes. It."

" The part that bit baffled me then and continues to baffle me now. If it's pioli is job Sony wants if he wants. Why the hell you -- in the coach. -- hiring a guy like Scott pioli to run your football department and and by the way it may well be it's not hires Eric Mangini why are you -- coach."

" It's it's going to be hired Bob Kennedy didn't hire him yet this is when -- hiring him yet. And there's this will all be clear. By the end of the week. By the end of the week everything won't won't make sense but Randy Lerner hasn't hired anybody yet so. I am not going to criticize you for higher and the coach when he hired them."

" Now but and and I am and I. Know I'm probably you know parsing this to find. I believe everything tellem a caicos -- pretty good sources of your -- you're telling me that Mangini will be named coach of the team before the end of the yes. Well unless they're going to name both by the end of the week it doesn't make any sense to. You don't well you don't hire let's let's say they -- and she needed coach by the end of the we want -- second time you're smart guy knows that does that. You don't name what man -- without naming both."

" You set unless they're going to name bow right that it doesn't make any sense to me any other what -- And and this is what. This is like implement this by game thing we have overstated it."

" Eric Mangini. And that back -- I'd ask the question what do we believe based on what we all of spike. Do we believe that they could they could work."

" But but it's not but that's -- and we overstated that we put spy gate above everything else."

" Eric Mangini and Scott pioli were -- signal to the for fifteen years. Fifteen years not for seventeen years. -- Scott pioli. Introduced. Eric to his wife. Now each other so you can have a problem and it's a big problem."

" Absolutely it it brought shame to the franchise it brought. Mounds and mounds and mounds of criticism the franchise. Seventeen. Years. Versus one or two or three out of 83 really bad years at three aren't comfortable -- years yes friendships and yes our relationships change. But I'm telling you bear relationship. Is stronger. Than anything that spy gate --"

" Too well and the other point we brought up earlier in the week and I'll I'll added -- here 'cause it it it relates wall this. Is whether or not it was Eric Mangini or whether or not it was Mike cannon. And I gave you my opinion that it seems more and more like Mike -- bombers is the pig in the poke here more than Eric Mangini. I think Mike -- shipped Eric Mangini. And you know if he's willing to ship a guy who he claims he had a close personal relationship with. He's well to let that I take the ball for spy gate when he's really the one who did it to begin. So it may well be. And if you had a seventeen year relationship you like to think that those two guys pioli and Mangini. Could talk either face to face her on the phone Americans say Scott you think what you want. I didn't called the NFL one."

" They could they could work together if it came to that. But the great thing -- for pioli is that he has more options. The managing. Man generally Kansas City and -- Mangini is one option. Is enclave."

" Now why is that with -- all the coaching openings. Back to what we said before about teams not being -- fired up by hiring Eric Mangini is that the truth year that that's what ace for at least some of these let anybody -- that."

" The case. You know maybe some teams aren't maybe some teams have other guys in mind. But this guy. Randy Lerner. Is -- with Eric ranging he loves them apparently Mangini went in there and killed it. He killed his interview blew him away and and he didn't. He didn't have to do that much to blow Lerner way because Lerner was long way before Mangini ever met with them out. He met man Jeannie. A few years ago when Eric man and iron and you win when Romeo canal took the job. Romeo wanted Eric to be defensive coordinator. Obviously that didn't happen Eric was defensive coordinator here replacing Romeo. But Randy Lerner. Has had. Has been mechanized it Eric Mangini for four years and he's going to get the chance he he's got a higher now because he thinks. That he he learned from the Jets experience he thinks that he got screwed a bit in New York you know what. And you said you said something earlier that has been set on the station in defense of the -- I'll say in defense of Eric."

" I agree with -- Randy Garner. You -- this group New York Wally gets screwed about how we FY I I still don't know about spiking. I mean -- the -- that maybe it was tandem -- not -- mean -- I got nothing to base. I don't know who did watch."

" You can go to playoffs your first you're you're tennis six you dropped as it's a disaster in your second year your foreign well. You bring in Brett Favre even though. As as Eric -- didn't want him. Brett Favre comes in a turnover machine. And you bring and you know Alan Faneca and Damien Woody. And all these you know on in Calvin Pace and Chris Jenkins and you -- nine and seven so the five game improvement. That's a positive way of looking at the negative thing as you were eight and three you beat the Patriots and you beat Tennessee. Then down the stretch you can only when one game short 97 disappointing season but. Three years. Three years out of changing things around in New York transitioning from a 43 team put 314. Putting -- you're out philosophies and place. Three years is just not enough time to get that done your man -- one year two years later you're fired I think it was a bad deal form."

" Let me ask you to theorized to that's all we can do with this collection of the -- based on your knowledge. Of the people involved as your knowledge is better than. If Scott pioli and Eric Mangini of the deal low. Running and coaching the Cleveland -- What happens to the relationship between well. I'll say pioli 'cause I don't think there is the relationship between Mangini and definitely -- you're right exactly I don't -- very relationship and not what's what's this do to the relationship between pioli and ballot."

" Fortunately. It's something. That will never. That would never know because I don't think it's going to happen. I think one of those guys. Is going to Cleveland I think that person is going to be Eric Mangini. I think he's going to Cleveland. And and and my feeling is that that Scott pioli tackle to Cleveland."

" So he's thinking so in it'd -- I'm gonna I'm going to make a deduction. So you think it's either Kansas City or -- yeah. I mean that's that's the only other options we know of right now yeah maybe there's some other one out there the but they kept more secret than the Jeff Jake is Hinske job interview but."

" Yes we run our and to -- is that -- at a news on that one. I would guess that the meeting was fairly short got an Award winning sports less from John Wallace coming up maybe John Wallach -- some breaking news on coach jags. And we'll talk about that."

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