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" Hey how you did it -- to protest it isn't a question before we start you know older you know and you wrote this book was by a nose with red. And that's deck in the forties. And a you're gonna have on that we do you city SPN. Plays there you know -- Well what's the point way guys are going to Ortiz is that off the Houston has invited me on many times -- football on this upset threat. And I was wondering if you don't -- he has you know invite -- on the talk baseballs -- right on network let the whole idea is getting ESPN that means is that a thought that would want to talk baseball obvious degree and it you can if you you have buddies that work goalie Peter king and you know -- with -- was maybe that's stuff you know Tuesday and you get -- baseball just to get him off my back. That's tour. You're not really pushed alive and god help -- get on the -- football expert -- you know in the united committees and that was it provided the information out -- it was a sales and that feeling."
" I see I see -- a lot of but I saw you -- the Patriots press box the last about that right now and it's this Taylor it is an average W -- a center they won't -- wherever you arsenal football record there's so much talk about the weekend starting tonight -- to -- games the most of reports that -- to the Patriots and Arizona Cardinals in which team. Which Arizona team as good as your opinion not the one we dug up last week that really is having the plate or. Or the one that we saw you know received several times this year ridiculous lighted up. My sense is it is it it's something in between those two -- a could lean toward the one that doesn't evident in the play for. I think this is of veteran club that went through it's a veteran -- a club with a better quarterback that went through. It's season. Basically. Riding the cushion that's provided by a lot of bad teams I don't think they have a true identity as a as a team that's a quote they were geared up and ready for the playoffs is -- one team in the whole mix right now playoff -- least exciting than than -- errors on the Cardinals as division champion and I -- the answers -- we know that they can light it -- but who -- they light it up against -- question one question -- how inspired are -- to do that at this stage of the season when -- when I think in their mind. Getting -- as it's clean and this thing is they key and gives them their best chance of."
" What -- ever struck you about. Picked -- the went out to get the you know playoff. Also asked what note Jets after -- note you know by Miami got -- out. You've -- even. It is now taught what Indianapolis and 1 Cubs is that it was got a -- to play Jacksonville. Jags will Drexel beat him at home already. -- This is not unusual for Indianapolis either because those -- powerful teams that run the ball well. And that's you know that's -- another matchup that couldn't get Baltimore's gonna play Dallas in Dallas."
" I think they're very very tough. In terms of I mean the best way is is to absolutely went out and and if -- going on any kind of momentum you should but. What you say is true I think that the Ravens tour could be even a little more difficult as I look at the Colts Fred I see a team that. It in the final week of the season yet they're scheduled to play Tennessee but habit and they play in my home. But. Indianapolis but I think the other part of that equation is what is Tennessee have to play for if they beat the Steelers are really going to help it it was of the eleventh to -- if they beat the Steelers right."
" But we said the same thing about the Giants last year -- for the Patriots -- in the season could improve that position at all. But water and that's kind of you know. A big -- refused to replace how to play what the in the season the Jets Giants did last year go to the memento yeah I I don't think -- but here's the thing."
" That I did Giants did they definitely it was refreshing to see a team sort of uphold its the quality standard -- and play their starters play -- But I think there -- different plays they were try to fight their way and they did out of a hole that gave them even more momentum that a lot of us even thought. Which began in Buffalo when they had that game of the dreadful weather there now and rallied and won the game there. And and they continued that role and their momentum for team I think desperately needed it because of where they've fallen to the Tennessee Titans. Have mostly had this season have had control of their season and of their destiny if -- and Jeff Fisher being the coach -- I I think. And and knowing how delicate you look -- operas and sports I mean he's his best player is not at a plate he can't afford many many other things in dog he's going to try to keep out of that game pretty legs are gone."
" I have yet to get back page report as a lot of other games and talked about also want to touch on the board that the block last week in Buffalo when I. I thought it was especially that I've woken up -- at this wicket remorse scream and drugs name and remain. But. About the ice it's game played out of the Patriots. Up -- obvious to -- Patriots Q it was a secondary and your your a lot of -- on this team on paper this Laker. Could be a very high scoring game by. You know the west coast teams through their companies have not done well that your Billick wants him human bodies -- his game plan. Well you know I."
" I look at this. That's that's the problem right there is is the west coast teams coming east and and struggling -- with bad an end in particular look the Cardinals. As a team that hasn't figured out the east coast team and a east coast -- at all. And and they. Look they went through such great extent right they can they they spent after the played in Washington State and the east coast play the Jets are her Kurt Warner complaint about that I -- other players complex destroy also suffer rhythm while that the Patriots reversed that go out to Seattle go on that -- to Oakland. And made it works so I don't know I don't think it's necessarily a function of geography or time zones as it is how your built than it would be ready to him."
" I don't usually sign off on -- lack of a date business and all that but I do what was right do agree with people under percent. Is that Seattle Jets on Sunday is is -- of the century we gotta win this game do you agree. Seattle once this game."
" Yeah I can I think -- I I don't. I don't like that where the Jets are at all I think about all the points on alert if -- if the larger point is the Jets going out to Seattle. And and the first all the trip itself -- chore for them maybe it is maybe -- I think I think it's less of an issue just -- that -- the point with the Cardinals is less of an issue about the Jets traveling. As it is about the Jets is that play and very develop normally just don't they I think you -- watch them play their biggest night that not a team as good as your record that makes that yet I don't understand how they stopped playing defense as well as they did because they shut down the bills in Buffalo. Thoroughly that was the same and -- there was there the the running game now I've heard well -- they have the point simply drive last and that went about. The bills and score on. Right that don't like that yeah I would let -- the -- the Jets also but the Jets answer with two long drug of the Jets answer quadrant so. Yeah at that you're right the bills the bills were there was futility they they did possess the ball longtime. I still think Chris Jenkins is is -- is quite a player and has done a good job for the I think I think Brett Favre has become."
" A more serious liability by the week it's probably easier to real brutal blow anybody out. I don't always -- out in a probe old Bears should not be in -- I told senate and I don't write it watch it once -- settled it'll affect. It was it was not any resolution -- and I also think this -- call me crazy but I do about it Kansas -- give Miami. I'd I agree I called him -- not -- haven't been in my did exactly I thought -- this I thought last week separatist there was a play at Miami top of the most people didn't and they -- and I I think Kansas City I don't care what the when they're -- the deal that -- little -- I'm sure. I just little I think ultimately -- my game in May not win Bogota and gets off gave Miami I."
" think you're on the -- and I always yourself and I think there's there's something to be set on or quality -- of the the that the quality but the the importance of pride from some of the some of these cheap players but I think I don't write books it's -- it's it's -- could very well be her arms last game. Carl Peterson is gone and and now you have a team that's in for much and it's mode of what are we what are we next and -- we auditioning for does it matter to any of those guys 'cause they've really got only impressed who watches videotape that was really watching them in person for other -- the owner. And then the second part of this equation as Miami. And I would give Miami this much credit. I think there is tough minded as any team in the league right now I think they have I think what Tony soprano as men managed to with that team is is pretty remarkable keeping them focused and and they eat you know would you look at a lot of their games you don't necessarily see pretty. But you do see some consistency and went -- there was a lot -- you're not turn the ball -- she's made enough mistakes this grew at a stat that's somewhat more that's more what I'm worried about their."
" France you know pretty much all that game and no -- in my Republican -- resort north -- Buffalo -- it has -- but -- brought up earlier. Doubt that we go to drugs not dumb guys we're guys right but -- I would look at the end of the game you hit the ball you're up by three. It's around two minutes left. You have second down -- five they'll call back it's one of five got to six yards a carry. Do you offered to line to pretty much dominate right on the run defense that shut them the jets' style than a first half. Brooks found in this fourth quarter up by your best he's going very well. Okay so now like at the ball all I have to -- the clock out even if I don't get him upon his reporting -- well."
" He hit it to the only guy on the field I I would hit the ball boy before Adam Sandler. And what he's running rollout is -- was raised about combine them I -- I felt like I can't. How how requisite this may well be a walk in the game the -- Melvin told the commissioner Paul -- like I had really yeah that that might have been what way to go the other way to go is for the situation. That was not the worst thing in the world to do a play action throw if it is now you're gonna play play action pass in some situations -- got -- what time out left. -- backs dominating every speaking quarterback in alliance -- and well and he picked the ball at worst clear what he's having line."
" Understood again I I say for second down and in that circumstance if he's got a chance to also get another set of downs with a quick -- with a with a play that he had in mind. If the fullback who he was throwing to doesn't fall and he did on the play I think he doesn't hold the ball for twenty more seconds Horry gets sacked. There's a problem your your question is you see that -- inserted whatever bills fan every else's inserted fast discussion of why would you not -- why would you put the ball and you know JP's hands the throw it. When you know he can't throw order you know all he should have it. And I think they thought place situation. And they didn't make quarterback's lack of skill they why they thought rollout throw to the fullback. First fresh out of Dallas game over because now you can almost use it to you about it. My dessert afterwards and the the -- a fullback was probably he was he was beyond the five -- you're gonna say they're going to absolutely pick up."
" If you don't get it. Then they'll vote timeouts left they haven't got a first down the reported right wanted to that what are -- gonna come down the field -- he kicked -- field -- you saw what the Jets did that situation they watched the -- it did what they was sure what any normal. Any slam dunk call would be okay so does the call was react to their. Regular DH situation it's anywhere -- fullback. If he doesn't trip has no one around them to catch a ball to go six yards or seven yards or ten yards. Now you -- first dot got really good field position you whole set fresh set of outlets and how you can pound it and end. They had done a goal they had the -- ridiculous -- five guys. Seven it's not I understand I and they are the line and threw it if we could assume that that would have happened there I I guess I can't like this still averages it put everybody. There is so frustrated because you know the bills -- beyond that game -- down by eleven of special and -- and it -- and that's I hate that call because he dropped before don't know when he was all he was not of the brain and and someone strip and Cubs are probably still have taken hold onto the ball and ultimately go to he -- The goal doesn't even have the fumble noted coach. Calls actors -- run the clock targets that team hasn't movable goal of the fourth quarter or 241 -- whole second half. Nobody runs the ball in my I one at the line and get tool -- lines dominating -- need. Ideally the --"
" It was and he goes that's like a light as we wondering about -- contractor and you hear your colleague of separates and the story that there was another the -- a three year deal. That was -- extension that was signed in October when you're off to a great start but no official knots was of me what have you heard about the two -- did you have a contract in place or."
" Well everything I've heard is he does have a contract in place I don't know that that necessarily means. That he keeps his job beyond this season I think there's probably. Greater sense that that is a problem Ralph Wilson. Has definitely had second thoughts before I've seen before. Even these last couple games -- the the San Francisco lost was as irritating the Wilson from what I heard this week as anything that happened. And and maybe stuck in his craw even more than the Miami loss and and now the Jets lost beyond all that I think. The what he's got to decide is though is whether an investment -- experts speculated there could be upwards of six million dollars roughly about two year. Which is still not a lot for head coach but this coach was project -- projected to a head or is assumed to have -- a salary somewhere in the mid. One million went one point five which made him one of the lowest paid coaches in the league. And so busy -- topic getting someone -- the the point is what's the investment who's next in line and and -- obvious -- perhaps for this team -- somebody like -- Mike -- could bring offense -- about about it but you know the world Ralph Wilson is not really known for eating contracts in never never has been known for that Fred -- He role he will keep a guy or pay a guy or fights of the for that got to do -- if it pains him so much to have to have him off but if you. Keep him -- anyone that is in the trio never any real marquee players. Currently -- Toronto by then anyway it's true but I -- have their pictures at one when he C yeah that's worked thoroughly impressed at 78 million dollars got such a wonderful show two hours ago bigger terrible -- I don't have a the -- don't have one winning seasons as and it goes right now he's -- corrective Fred and and looks on him to this fan base -- it has become a possible is no doubt about that. I think that's going to factor into thinking. The staff itself was going to factor into thinking how well his -- distinguished himself as an offensive coordinator now he would make that we know that you know the back story now -- took over that particular call as many head coaches do those critical circumstances they take the calling away from the coordinator put. In this and I and I you know you I've not heard chartered try to throw the head coach -- the buses that. I would run the ball but the point is shorter has been getting just annihilated. For his lack of they'll success that -- Beatles fans an immediate LC the aggressiveness from the play call and that they thought it would after he replaced deeper."
" Is Vick I'm sure these guys ask -- previous weeks when they did play that game in Buffalo and I was down in. It was in Tampa with the with the BC football -- human right. -- hallway. And I I assure you that USA today -- huge piece on the bills and -- I don't know that I was reading in the plane. -- it does it scare you was a guy is a scarier your crowd. That even Ralph -- Wilson -- sane when he goes all bets are off."
" I doubt why I would definite scare me wherever they go they go to business -- I don't mean this little -- I as I write that the you know the guys from -- out of Buffalo's hall of a season ticket holder of the team. So for the community -- and hours -- on India and is that a problem. To me. I I I've. Frankly I'm more of a mind to think that that the benefits if it's at the end of the day if it becomes something that. From a league standpoint. Is is the right place for this team to be I'd buy it I don't buy as we speak. That that's the case I don't buy in terms of where the economy is. That that could be pulled off and be anymore successful there that it has been here what I see is absolutely it's a bigger city it's got more reach -- got a lot. But we're really taking a lead here to say that a state of the art stadium which is the only kind of stadium that's going to be built. In the future for any NFL team is going to be built. In Toronto or anywhere else who's going to fund that other in the ones that are already under construction are already have -- worth -- the financing for -- come right and -- to. You know I look at that utilized the support here is go to is is it's strong it it's been -- nine years of not not playoffs and they can still -- games out it -- how many -- next year but I assure you that the drop -- won't be as dramatic as one might assume -- would be. But but they do -- it's for people of Buffalo it's still an effective it's still something to do on -- Sunday better than the alternative -- just to sit at home or whatever while the alternative this Sunday you can drive -- the game against the angles that's that's another way to look at but it but it -- I I I want to be convinced it's going to happen and I I think this has become as of right now if you -- road to a review -- out what's -- they play two games they're kind of pre season game against Pittsburgh in August. And and then the regular season game. And I don't think Toronto audience have a lot to be happy about you know right where it would it would with a 78. Million dollar investment that they try to get back by charging upwards in the late Ted Rogers you know charging ticket price between two -- 300 bucks -- people aren't stupid they could still drive to Buffalo."
" Otherwise engaged for less than half agree or asked about -- that -- left. A big game five big game Saturday night as usual ramifications for the area Patriots so right where the other night so don't tell salting ball both in Baltimore. But it's I between last week Cowboys and -- an amendment -- I was surprised that is closer to be honest revealed distracted -- I've had it with this team -- I can't stand it ESPN's running scrolls today because Tony -- and go to some Terrell Owens a Christmas party or holiday -- whatever. And now there's this some more dissension in the -- and pop pop -- just tired of hearing about the Dallas Cowboys in the and all the BS that that's not related to football -- pat even -- broke up Saturday and."
" about the I would hate to an -- in part of it part of it is because. -- ESP and it has decided that it's also got to make this the beat you know I know that -- other responding to whatever there. I don't know if they if they are but I assume that they deal with these focus groups or whatever there there that are indicators show that the fans can't get enough for this but I can get enough of it I think it's sick thing I think it's. It's almost they they try to self perpetuate now they've become the news -- it and if you pull the plug got mad if they did I think yeah I think you'd have. A fraction of the discussion and I think fraction of the desire to have that the script was not that that means that you surprise me defensively last week the gorgeous they were disgusted onto the Giants were bagged up report. Got another out they got tackled out wide gate golf -- rhythmic indifference we Guillen pulled away -- Romo some real -- mark -- knocked a ball off receive recorded a touchdown. Yes you know was it was a heads I'm. I haven't Bruntlett -- if we can put all the circus sideshow stuff aside. There's a pretty good story there there's a great story -- Tony Romo and end. I had a great thing is his indifference he has the -- so perfect attitude to deal with a team that has all this system products and stuff -- I think it was kind of I think there as a team they are a team that that grasps her as an excuse me as a quarterback he grasped what he's supposed to be about what they're about that you could put the celebrity girlfriend and everything else aside -- guy when he gets on the field. It does some some decent things he does some bone -- things. He's he's as much like our younger Brett Favre is Brett Favre has put -- but I think by -- would take him away and there's another you want to talk about it FC Pro Bowl. -- missions are smart about Tony -- argument back as a Pro Bowl quarterback this year maybe his numbers stand up -- injured for a couple of games and he stole at least well performed yeah the other you know you want -- want that game by chance I thought well -- I am not have actually going to be at central control looking at all at a felt that -- look at it everything from top to bottom so I want a bigger talked about -- Islamic cultures they -- this year. Comedy I Mike how. I think I had a upwards of six or seven I -- we know some. Yeah it -- for if we we know the obvious situations I I I think the only interim coach is going to survive as Mike singletary should I know he's already. They're already doing the work on a contract. My sources thought it went pretty well it matters. Yes it's all just about did the deal done but he should he safe so the other two I think I think Jim has that I've heard reports that it's possible he sticks with the Rams I think he stole. That's not a slam -- and I would say obviously. -- hurricane blows out an Oakland. But -- you know Cleveland situation is is done I think you look at that one I think -- Lewis stays and Cincinnati could -- night that's -- And I don't know I don't know but I understand it's it's likely I think Herm Edwards is going to have a problem now that. Paulus on trying to and you know they were different they -- and 5% of the same page turner situation is -- was not -- the Jets to a flat out collapse here are -- Eric Mangini is not a lock that there lasting before the Olympics to -- was probably about a Tim Tebow today says he wants as the NFL about draft projection -- it is going to be. Earlier is going to be -- second round and -- about that. I I agree with -- I mean I I don't blame the -- for try to get a handle on where he stands but. He's not going to be looked upon until he goes and and and baby it's prove otherwise as the classic. Quarterback guy taken out to a -- around mighty behind for first quarterback skills I think you're right -- nice this year -- that. That's I think what I see much -- tight end of the court as many missed."
" in a film makes guys take we've gone right where my Aaron right now what the name for Brohm from the Raiders -- Look at guy after guy Russell mark as he makes examine the street looks like your reads pretty well I and I dropped bigotry. For two -- It's always like 65 he's -- the -- And he runs while -- yeah he he can both. I you know he could still rifled the ball if it's just throwing it but but the decision making and the coaching at and a here's a guy. Well would he ever will he ever at some point and and we know the story that Lane Kiffin didn't want him that was a disagreement point is Al Davis said the -- In his press conference right but but at some point lane was connecting with the with the kit and and they were that the he was getting some coaching from him and then after -- left lane was called up with some coaching points -- they were talkin'. Extinct talking coaching points yeah after after -- was out there so I think this is a guy who -- I I would tickets it's it's a real job for me to say that he craves. Better coaching but how could he not it is getting it pocketing you know what is common what does that what does stability I think he's I think he's suffered from it did they've -- they've missed shot him. Maybe they did but I I also think that give I think you get a better chance how much has Josh mcdaniels Matt. That Matt Cassel guys off my contract -- okay obvious and obviously it's that if he calls anywhere mad if he goes anywhere after if he leaves after this season -- other team. What are the odds -- he'll want to be somewhere with Josh. Pretty good -- I think I think he watched that I think he knows that Betsy vital thing to his success astronomer --"
" Great having them out and we have to -- that judgment Daniel's ability can check out into the game winning an event -- its corporate raider. -- though is that I I can't see the Patriots letting this guy go for nothing too early project it would I think that somehow someway going to find a way. The franchise trademark or some balls somewhere just can't see them let him go for nothing. While he. I think that's the challenge I mean I think they know an amateur all for for many waking hours over the past several -- weeks in and if not months. A Scott you always been addressed and that and and trying to figure out because that is the route. I want to call reports Cuba he's got to figure out a pretty complicated as you just said it -- I don't know. I don't even know where -- where to begin with that conversation but but tiger -- I know you're saying -- it would be an awful thing to just quote. Let him go for nothing comic view of the bed but that's stuff does happen in this league some economic teams and their idea. -- That that youthful exuberance that he'll bring to the table but also a lot of knowledge and a lot of it'll -- his best. What is what's the best thing on his resume the best -- Matt Cassel right now that's -- that's the -- that's much better than that Tom Brady's record season last year because know what's gonna get credit for that but is much credit for that where we -- comic view of the revived his balance. Well it had a group for the group was yeah -- 444. Of the belief here that it's anywhere from six or eight jobs that could be open for coaches. He's sure he's I think he's in the discussion for budget if you throw Buffalo in the mix of teams that are looking for coach. I don't have them in the mix -- for Josh because I think the kind of money he may be able to command. In that. Competitive environment because I don't think it'll be just one team that Watson is going to. A poll put a lot of team like Buffalo that's that's. Traditionally. Has has a history of not paying coaches the what this guy's going to command on the open market. Final thought that -- at the university of Buffalo was on the map -- is Oklahoma visit Buffalo when -- your next year. If if if I just I saw -- after the Acura pointed out pretty good chip which agreement that was that a gift of the -- wind is that still that I never thought it and Fred you're in this market on time. I never thought to that when you're here you know UB was playing I think division three football today with a bit of state it never thought that they were caught even when they've made that step up and everybody thought what do what do silly thing it was it was such it's it's going to be such -- That the day would come. When the Buffalo Bulls UB Bulls are a much more exciting football topic that I Buffalo -- that's happened. And it was Syracuse is gone and buffet. Turkey and -- in this picture -- stories about where he won't now I sat extension to stay then his spin a larger actually that's that's -- Dick Jauron talk people got sick of seeing how much they -- to run IN NF set to the -- and and -- that it would appeal to Buckley right here it goes above the fold. Our -- all the full."
" Do about it the Auburn job on the -- as a guy from my it was that's worked out Charles Barkley involved that I mean but. You've got a coach like him to get a shot he'll do what's it like coach of -- and before you go -- gives -- the Celtics have won sixteen in -- exotic -- what happens first opened the game Browns went up at the touchdown. -- that you're going to dispute the -- again and I you know winning the idea as to say -- you know we can make it it's right thing and go with the line I I say I say that the the the Celtics lose a game. Before. The -- scored two thirds Goliath Slovakia Ottawa general Rios no chances they record -- watch this week as current studio on the telephone network which one look at in this building thank god a Texas credit game -- yes I look forward to definitely get by dramatizing what it. That's always guys Eric presidents that are as good about it here by okay thanks a lot of recruitment of economic development."