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11-21-08 Peter King, SI/NBC Sports

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Fri, 21 Nov 2008

Peter joined Dale and Michael for his weekly visit. The guys talked about last night's game between Steelers and Bengals, this week's Patriots-Dolphins game, and also the Davio's Football League.

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" Every Friday at this time we talked some football but our body Peter King from Sports Illustrated SI dot com and BC sports and theater near you Peter King brought to -- Red -- Church insurance because it's not just policy. It's the people that afternoon with howry deal."

" What are dale I'm Mike -- was going on. Not driving back from Pittsburgh went to regain -- little snowy last night -- I drove yeah and a I -- actually well it's about aren't enough hours or. So I always figure in today's world. That."

" EL by the time you -- front door go to the airport park your car. Go through security get out on the plane -- on the run quite probable probable out of line get your hotel. You know it's probably going to be walked four and a half hours if all goes pretty well. But usually it does not -- pretty well so. Pittsburgh the kind of place where and like the Redskins. Baltimore are you know Patriots. I don't fly anymore. I always drive a little a little inside Peter King it's for your --"

" There and they're -- I. Next time you're Pittsburgh -- you must drive down the boulevard boulevard of the allies in drive five. The finest academic institution. East of the Mississippi that is. That is that is part university. I want the point park yes I did -- Me and Dennis Miller progress."

" I'll want to play at least one point -- and how -- it out on aren't you also from Pittsburgh it's like his second home -- to -- I absolutely love it and I mean I. I've got tremendous memories -- I mean people in Boston wouldn't necessarily see this with. That is that it is one of the most beautiful baseball stadiums. -- god ever created. You know that nobody's ever going to see it. They're the team so bad but it is that it that would be a fun road trip any big baseball fan and often. I think it would be real fun trip for. Caught without a trip. What do you go to CD. -- he -- go to see the the Indians. And there -- about and minor league baseball scenes that well court are. -- goes into -- holding each scrap or what but what county captains or -- that -- that it says it would be a fun trip."

" Hey if you're Marvin Lewis. Would you just send Chad Johnson home for the rest of the year."

" It's not your choice. If you were Marvin Lewis of course you would want to. But he's got Mike Brown -- says none and I don't know now Chad will stay in the fall. And in fact I'm told that two nights ago that Mike Brown -- smooth this over and say come on. You know it's all make up. And Marvin tomorrow relying instead now and it -- in the big hierarchy who normally side with might. Side it would -- And said you're absolutely right. This is intolerable what I can have a guy it was over sleeping in you know being -- for meetings Indian -- So you -- now won the big question now is they'll. Already do with -- L there's tremendous sentiment. You know in the in the locker room and on the coaching staff. To lead this I'd go. No matter what they get or even if they get up and because. It would be addition by subtraction. Mike Brown has been against that. But we'll see what happens I think that's going to be major bone of contention between Marvin Louis is at two years left that -- contract. And Mike Brown after the year."

" We'll Peter there's a lot of coaching news coming out of the AFC north -- and Marvin Lewis. He may come back on May not come back Romeo Cornell is is rumored to be on the hot seat and now you hear reports that. Bill -- that the Cleveland Browns would be interested in bringing him in I just kind of -- that division out for me. When it comes to coaching changes."

" Well you know it's funny. -- you know the last two guys and the most solid you know John Harbaugh as their real find for the Ravens and there is this Steelers wouldn't trade Mike Tomlin for Bill Belichick right now and it better evidence you know they're they look -- come -- but. Near the way it is in Cincinnati might. Brown does not want -- Marvin Lewis with about seven million dollars left in two years to pay. Marvin Lewis that -- lead he wants to dictate if you know so in other words. If he's if he's going to get fired fine but you don't want to fight he's not playing -- resigned. So I think that is potentially ugly would not be shocked to see settlement there at the end of this year but. I don't think Mike Brown wants to lose a and in Cleveland and I wrote a couple of weeks ago Monday morning quarterback is coaching staff is dead men walking. Which I firmly believe I don't think anything that happens the rest of the way. Unless. It's it's just some incredibly unexpected. You know winning streak that happens which which I just don't speak I don't see anyway that that's going to change. So they're going to be looking for a coach and if they're looking for a coach we've known all law. It's no surprise but right area that they will inquire. About bill -- Because he is rightful savior. On this team now this Award and to people don't know about bill -- In the last year in Pittsburgh teammate -- a million dollars nobody. It updated people you know around the Steelers in some. People very close to our nobody really knows that. So is their powers to come back to the NFL. His fried -- I think what I have to start at about nine million. And so I read the I don't pro football talk which I believe to be absolutely true. That they will be interest in power. At the end it has -- But as of now I think that that story is just going to kind -- Probably for about another remark. -- at the end of the -- efforts to debacle. And if that the bako is going to include not only Romeo Cornell but Phil savage generally and it."

" Michael -- apiece yesterday out of Detroit newspapers suggesting that the Ford family and Detroit should just do whatever it takes. To get Scott pioli to take over that football franchise. And I ask the at the rhetorical question and follow up to that. If pioli goes does he bring Josh mcdaniels and they end up bringing Matt Cassel as well."

" I yeah I can't believe you had that thought but I I actually read that column the other day. And I've pretty much set the St. staying at any team that. You need to at least call. Pioli. Defeat if you're going to have a new architect. -- maybe it happens it Francisco. St. Louis mean. Wherever there is going to be housecleaning. I mean you have to at least make phone call pioli to -- deep interest in there's no doubt about that now. You know I don't know -- He always got it settled on anybody if he ever got a job. What are it'd be somebody from this past. You know leader in Cleveland are orders is one year in Baltimore or in New England aura werder did beat somebody and the cardinal England's staff -- If if it worded if -- weren't -- good judgment in allowing it clearly. You know you have to think about Matt Cassel because obviously it's like adjust dad wore a quarterback's situation. And if your report -- and they do not exactly and outside the box. They think so far in the box that the boxes buried in the ground somewhere no I'm not I'm not sure I'm not sure they're going to have a thought hey. Well it's somebody coming and recreate the Detroit Lions. Which. You know and media and everybody in the you're listening audience knows task that happened at some point but. Obviously. -- pioli -- the Daniels Cassel. Triumvirate. Would be an awful lot better I would -- Tom Arnold Rod Marinelli and you know Orlovsky. --"

" A couple things for you Peter one. I a look at the way Thomas to -- left the Patriots in heated race this scouting staff so I think that's the -- if if he only left. I don't see him taking. A lot of coaches or any coaches because I respect he has for politics but I don't know what to the."

" Let me let me ask let me ask you this question. I mean -- if Josh -- going to get interviewed for coaching jobs. As Scott pioli is out there every game -- is he hot commodity. You know he's got itinerary is why shouldn't -- be able to take I admit I don't have any idea but I mean -- Greg Cole. And Demitra I didn't exactly have a similar situation. You -- his situation. Was that. I mean if you if you recall had. He wasn't the one. You know driving a car necessarily armistice was kind of eight of out of a coal. I mean a whole lot of people in the organization have their fingers in the pie. You know our blanket. And rich McKay and all this but anyway I didn't mean to interrupt you but I just want to make that."

" Yes that's good and and the other thing -- what you think about this theory I. I was reading that that story from Michael -- it was a it was a big deal has been around for a long time in Detroit. It's not just -- out to me he's saying some pretty favorable things about the Ford family. That was a red flag to me -- think and that the full of family may have dropped the dime to oh era. And this is something that that their planet to do that as a matter of factly just gave it to him to see what the public reaction with."

" wouldn't shock me. I wouldn't shock me at all. I don't it's not anything that I have knowledge of so I I really don't know what you know having said that. Spirit here's the thing that -- all about about that entire situation that I think. You really sort -- have to be careful about when your when your reading stuff into new kind of what a team might do or might not do. You know beat the Detroit Lions. Really like rod mayor now. Forwards really light rod -- now. And it goes well. I figured I think it's so little bit dangerous. Right now to be saying that if this happens. -- then they're definitely don't want people. -- I could just I think that they enjoy it because remember just keep in mind. This is not a team. -- thinks outside the box. Guess that it seemed that why do you bank and again and I I don't mean to be critical of the Fords. Good business sense because obviously there. There are pounding -- of American commerce. You know I haven't exactly denigrate javelin and -- business it'll last 1520 years. So -- should be surprised. That they haven't been adequate job wooden of football business eager. And I I figure I'm not trying to be a wide wide guy about that well this is just simply a team right now that isn't. Is -- very progressive so as to what they're doing I I just don't know."

" Am -- an idiot for thinking the Jets are going to be the Titans this weekend."

" An idiot no you're fired an upstanding. I'd go citizen that lives are made. -- at wherever you live well. Now. I mean I could definitely see that everything goes well. I mean no one thing that sticks out in my mind for next game last Thursday is the number 500 however. I mean. The New York Jets and really improved -- Gay -- so incredibly. Odious. Pieces. Of old news. Pretty rested Aristide and -- eclipse awards is that. When Chris Jenkins comes off the field. In that no -- that the Patriots -- a lot. Mean when he comes off the field their defense is totally totally different. And obviously they gave up -- 111 yards and it shows that in the everything yes. Thing that worries me about them. Is how much energy expended. In that one game I don't want you guys but you know again. You know sort of being. In New York in -- in the New York area. You living Eric and this was. This would really it was ridiculously this is it going to I forget which talk show those sit. And I quote different -- seminal game in the history of the New York Jets. Ready to talk about -- next week if you lose your game you're tight across and you aren't exactly the same situation that you period of two weeks ago. One it took about. So again. I I I don't let the emotion of that -- got curious sit but you're right. Our offense. -- Favre is being significantly. -- significantly better taking care of the ball -- I think this is really disagree smarter. Smart football team it's still as the ability. Two to strike -- big and I concede -- Gordon beaten Tennessee no question about it but it's not a game and I would pick."

" Now the Jets would be tied for first place if they lose to Tennessee and if the Patriots beat the Dolphins out dale has already set today he thinks that the."

" No no no I don't know how to win that game. It's the first place -- well -- he's evidence fourth."

" Right well yes it would but you're right you're right about the from the Patriots perspective they'll be the Patriots the Patriots beat the Dolphins dale thinks the Dolphins are going to win that game. How do you see. Sunday's game playing out."

" Well I think it's it's -- really really interesting game. From the standpoint you know. You know you've got that sinker -- how many times. Have we seen. Bill Belichick team. Getting handled the way the Patriots got handled by the Dolphins in the first game this year mean and and again that is. If there's one thing that Bill Belichick is. It's incredibly ridiculously pro rightful. About that -- opted -- and if if you know out of this and that he's not going to expand. You know an extra few minutes here or there and everywhere and tightening things up this weekend. I just think we're not going to see anymore. Three touchdowns I don't know why don't get the sense out of the Patriots whatever it is that they report you collapsed. But I -- so I think that the Patriots are going to tighten up on defense a little bit and I think it's going to be much more meat and potatoes ballgame. I it's going to be much more of L group can make its second five -- consistently. Who could run the ball a little bit better -- and outs and that's what I think this game is going to be lost."

" Most importantly the question is. Can you beat Terry Francona again this week."

" You know what I guess. I also -- That Terry Francona has been picked up a little bit too noted that I."

" I I think he's I think he's back yeah."

" Yeah in fact in that it looked at my lineup the other day and I spent. I am not playing Donovan McNabb this week. I don't -- and no walks. I am not playing Donovan McNabb I'm currently in Matt Gutierrez especially. With."

" I don't -- I don't want more football question for and it is this might be a trick question. Who's the best team right now. Who's the best team in the AFC south Tennessee or is it Indianapolis Colts."

" Tennessee's better. -- You look down the road. Okay and look at week seven."

" And it's beating Indianapolis. Tape and look at the last five years. For the the first -- years. At Indianapolis. Tennessee got their clocks cleaned. And what else here Indianapolis to lay down and play BJP. And not -- run out of the playoffs and allowed Tennessee to win that game I think with 1610. And I are understate this site and Pittsburgh is coming to Tennessee and in in total of fifteen -- gained sixteen. Will be heard of this game at Tennessee you're gonna have to wind down a certain members and the beat fifteen and all of them but. That's going to be the toughest game they had to play because Indianapolis likely is going to be plane -- playoff lives. I still liked Tennessee better because in my opinion. Tennessee's deep sense it's so much better in Indianapolis is -- it's only need offense a little better right now and more grosso. I mean do you not like Kerry Collins last couple weeks each don't know it it doesn't have to be one. The running game in Tennessee that you can win the -- council -- 35 types."

" I got to know on the drive from Pittsburgh back to Montclair. -- coaches GMs are players have you talked to on the cellphone today."

" Now today there's been an ivy league office. -- Eight because. Of a couple of things I involving. Coaches. Are involving out of the draft coming up. And also involving. Some. Some some franchise I honestly franchise moves. Okay but. Am I believe Seattle -- people who can't see anything like that but. I think that there have been a couple of things that I know that they didn't know I got in the car and I think Jacksonville's situation as a little bit more tenuous than people think. In Jacksonville and I also think that. Body April fools day St. Louis Rams will change ownership but will not leave St. Louis. So I don't know those are few couple of things that worked out trying to reach gyms are right now. But now it's been a pretty pretty normal trip."

" The draft is coming up. --"

" You know it'd take you know and as Michael keep hearing every time I listened to. Said draft experts I'm not there they did -- the it's not it's not their -- thing but I keep hearing that. That agents for talent kids to come out because they're juniors to come out. Because in 2000 and make any money there's going to be a weight scale wobble wobble walk. Well. And I I think this is I don't say that this can happen edited web app. It well the but there's no grounds to suggest. That anything like that is in place now. Forward that it will be in place. So I think one of those things up I get out today's there -- Agents out there surprise surprise but we're looking through our convince people do things that'll make the agent for Richard -- you're cute. I mean I mean I'm shocked. I'm very shocked you'll let me. Ask you one question yeah. Did any -- walk over Evan grant this week."

" Oh did we ever. Did I work at Evan what's on the big show and and got -- loom a lot of little Steve Buckley. --"

" I hope he's not -- talk radio because he's got to get -- it would okay."

" What you do you know what you gotta do you gotta go to WPI dot com you got to listen to that interview. The thing that will surprise you Peter. Is that at the seven or eight minute mark of twenty minute interview he said this is unproductive. That."

" out of line for another."

" You know eight to twelve minutes."

" It's entirely acceptable to me if you don't agree -- my opinion. -- let him coming out of I mean what do you think what's going to happen really the."

" I think it was Steve Buckley asked him -- he said when you submitted your ballot did you think that there was anything controversial. About leaving Dustin Pedroia opposite now. Not and it was controversial at all."

" You know it's funny it's somebody who watches them all the time the most interesting thing inside. I really didn't know going to win the MVP I that this is the year where there weren't going to clear. Out now MVP you know but. But as somebody -- walks I thought. That you could make -- real argument -- you got him you courts. And you could probably make argument for our -- I mean -- actually -- batting -- I mean. College is really really. And a tkachuk and Minnesota to a winner after retreats Santana. I mean I could easily. I kind of got the job outright when all oral Pedroia. Wouldn't be surprised if you go would want. And that anyway it was just it's an interesting story and I mean go write for Beckett -- He's what he's what every coach in any sport. Sure -- up as the ideal for you'd -- culture kids to be like."

" There will be no name change for the Peter King."

" Entry on top of the W as he called. -- I don't know I don't know Montclair New Orleans yeah left side note I challenged there. All right Peter we'll talk to next week's tape drive now I thought --"

" Peter King joining us brought you by Fred -- Church insurance. Because it's not just the policy it's the people."

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