Spaceman Bill Lee

" And we have now on the phone this the one and only bill space mandalit. Out to in California. Who's going into the Red Sox Hall of Fame on November 7 long overdue and yes basement good talk to you what's up. I'm Mike he just -- tough day out here about 86 slight wind out of the west. As stupid sorry to hear that yeah we got Christina here the lovely -- female. As she's here and we got Lenny Magglio it here and and day now you so -- wild boxer in my backyard they must hurt that -- hit. The Red Sox just completed their season I want to get your take on lot of different things about them but first of all what -- what what do you think was the key to them losing to the -- first of."

" My idea was -- I thought they pitched them all wrong I thought there whole concept on how to pitch. Upton and how to pitch Longoria and how to pitch a lot of what was wrong they try to pound the men's and these guys. Like to sit on their back foot and they proved they can hit that ball. The hardest pitch to throw the fastball up and and it's also hard as it's been hit. And I saw. I saw Beckett laboring couldn't get the ball rewarded too -- backed off and throw away. Stayed away from the guys in tough situations. Even walked -- you know like Matsuzaka did stay away from them don't make mistakes. And the guy you know I'd I'd just let their whole concept was -- they would have Beckett game. We don't have the game 72 we'd be right yet we win game two we don't have it. I remember how I looked at it overall I it was a miracle like about to beat the Angels it was a miracle to beat it. I was of the cast in the price you'll want to bought this that you weren't going to win -- without Manny Ramirez and -- we got Jason Bay we got this. We got that we're going to be we're gonna win at all so. I -- said. You know but everybody you know you you remember you you're you're not a big -- they have a lot of people Boston guard. I mean he's a dog but that Dawkins."

" well I don't these there the world exit question. His ability to hit the ball -- you question as hard all you want it is fake injuries and all that stuff. But you know the guy when he when he wants to I don't think anyone's got denied he could do almost whatever he wants with the bat."

" He did in 2004. He did exactly what he did in 2008 in 2007. He did exactly what he -- in 2000 and it. Eight except that a little different time. Every year he he takes. -- hiatus -- yes. You know and and everybody I can't put up whether or get rid of him and then everybody patches it up that many of them hit the big home run up Chad Bradford. Probably as. Bradford showed up in that situation but many wasn't there of the liver right. You know yeah that that's how I look at it -- a win at all cost type a guy. In May get you know sacrifice well his team had better character like they all what a great bunch of guys everything else. Well that great bunch of guys with one guy short with -- allow. It would -- struggling you needed that extra right handed -- to win that world."

" Didn't you have a quote you say the team with more -- holes wins more games and shall be a team with 25 -- holes in a story on your computer yet."

" He's right right that's exactly what I said back in the day in the seventies and -- in the -- and all the way up until the start of this -- you know all of a sudden you know. We broke back purse and we broke it because -- small black ballplayer stole second I mean in that was yet and I mean is is. That more medals on the wall like carpal hit a home run -- and oh I know is. I every did this game is a long ruling ruling here and everything else but it boils down a little -- if we had. Not swung -- but all four in the leadoff hitter and they have hit it. If Pedroia guitar which he did and then have Ortiz doesn't lays off the high fastball right right not having this conversation."

" It's true that there were some very close calls obviously game went the series went seven and very attacked them we ask you about him because you pitched in your career. Not to two Hall of Fame catchers predominantly. You had Carlton Fisk and you had Gary Carter -- most of your big league career not to shabby. But the relationships between pitchers and catchers are very very important when we hear about -- tech now. We're hearing where he can't hit anymore but how what kind of value is a guy behind the plate who knows every hitter and who works well with -- all the pitchers. Yeah. --"

" Cage he can't he can't play in the American League with a whole -- they -- here in your office. You can't do it they'll fight yet they'll pitched two yeah. They'll do everything they'll pitch around -- number eight hitter to get beat him. It's almost like having a pitcher in the line up. You know and the thing about it is. He can hit the ball if he can hit the ball away and only ball he can hit -- the ball just below the strike zone yup. Out over the plate yet belongs swing if you -- need to be hitting lessons. I keep hearing him -- probably year we started to believe I can't believe Noah got that got the talent that he how -- swing and as well."

" it's funny that as we have a caller earlier. That said they should five hitting coach didn't realize that the entire staff has been brought back today. But you really think something like mad magazine could help them with."

" Oh my -- he's an epic at the doctor yeah all ethnic that would give -- heavier bat but the little weight in the bottom of it handle maybe shorten it may yet happen edge. And put up book under is dale left normally swing and don't let it fallout like they used to teach in the old days with the help the book meant that. All -- catalogue. Little piece swaying and I mean we do -- roll these swing like that. We in eating him up you know we inflict -- they'll -- but he'll switch hitters are notorious for chase and off speed stuff in the third. And he can't hit the -- that I don't know anything --"

" disagree that's it my two much of anything at all no lower where the other holes for next year. I learned at a spot on the reds are going to."

" riding club and everything else. I'd be when you've got your number one speed guy but the ball up his -- forehead."

" That's are quite often to brace."

" But I mean in. Local press doesn't -- strike and Ortiz teach him if they're going to put the ship body and it brought him breaking ball left handers. The easiest pitch the part is a breaking ball and you crossovers strike the ball up but there's strikes so -- Low you can put it down the third baseline all day long like painted it and it's an automatic -- it that he heritage Duke was would rather have -- inspected the -- But they don't know -- a by. Days. There's so many things that really helped vault and how about your right fielder hit the ball up the corner and throwing. Throwing like he threw like like in the what the -- president McCain. I mean he's got cobwebs in his arm -- The ball meaning that the -- You know and I don't bear -- is the greatest blocking the plate catcher I've ever he is good that should force C has has good quality. It back let's keep Barrett second put music hit."

" What about his value and we talk about it all day here in the states -- people we get calls elegant to Barrett that you're costing New York keep Varitek. What kind of value is he from the field general perspective. And you know -- and if you would describe what's your relationship was with. Fist at I don't I don't know if this can Gary Carter I mean when it comes to work with a catcher and haven't some kind of rhythm or chemistry. It doesn't matter."

" Doesn't matter we fought all the time the more we fought I wanted to pitch to -- this way you wanted to pitch and that way you know and that. It's it's all a matter of you know read the box scores find out who's hot don't -- it and it's that guys are not and I -- it's it's unbelievable and and you know this was I mean they're -- can -- well."

" So you haven't lined up and you say okay I'm pitching against the reds. In the 75 World Series. You take each guy and you say okay Morgan. Rose and here's what I'm going to do -- did you talk about it with the catcher before each game."

" Yeah we know we talked about all the time yeah we've we've had a plan I -- Morgan we buried the ball in on it make you hit the ball right field. Get ahead of him get his attention toward breaking ball away. You know -- stay away from the reds stay away probably stay for -- stuff away if you make it changeup brought speed make sure about the strikes so. You know I mean we've been doing that all away George Foster or stay away from it their way in October the ball does not -- right field. You know it's it's funny part is a lot like repeat field has seasons. It has its -- the pitches and there's times to pitch away in his that the you know and I always. I know I mean I put -- beat Tampa Bay. You know Lester had no -- not. It would Derek -- threw the first pitch into the lead off hitter in the fourth inning and and then they throw that they have -- call back on our way try to get a strike on it. And I think he's taken any hit the base hit over left -- they in the score pepper. Backed it should never gotten on base in Leicester in the light much yet but it was very the ball sinker in or is it in order it. You know and I get weak ground ball effectively that we ground ball first baseman. And that up to stay away from him change speeds keep the ball away."

" He got hotter during this post season I'm letting you start to get -- I had 99 a monster and a whole season also everyone on the same. He's top five elements in six and eight games or something's going on. -- percentage of the time would you say you waved off the the first pitch call from from the secretary in the -- we. Caller earlier. Mentioned that it is very tech supposed to run a game so well that's his strong suit on KV threatened to twenty. But how come the pitches always -- shaken off 12 sometimes three times and then it gets the call. So how can he be such a great field general and not have the feel of his pitcher -- cut twenty times during the year and -- we you know Saturday accents."

" Now here exact the year the pitchers -- shake him up the pitcher knows what he's stroll on how he feels and stuff and I mean. Is Lester cutters but if it's. Lo and and just bought the plate. When he tries to bust them up in any leaves it out over the plate and that's when he gets hurt any got hurt big time there's there's. All these first time he's ever lost two games -- You know back back and it was a bad time to do it."

" Who do you think it was a war it was the MVP was it Youkilis or was it Pedroia this year."

" It's kind of a between them well you know on people who really it's tough to call that went added either you know I've been. My theory is you didn't -- there is no more stable way. In the that the guy you've got to win at all it's -- that close and everything else. You know it would have been. It would have been here right fielder drove but is that checked swing it twice in the big game at bay is that checked swing twice that a big game and break it out. And no Manny do you think there really were not."

" Aggressive enough against Garza in the final aggressive are they were over aggressive -- way to bet that McNamee did he relent and pour in first pitch strikes almost without fail."

" Good point good point they did do that and there are notorious let them. You know I get ahead of stuff. The Troy. Did let one I mean give -- walk and that I read report it. He but he worked the walk they they attitude at -- had a tire that guy out because they're all it was suspect. You know in that was there object to try but. Pedro look good game it was going to be a close game I thought we're gonna win -- one out into the wind but we couldn't but we wouldn't walk. And he gives up that the animal -- pitch that. We got -- hit changeup without Pavel. You know switch hitters to any change of Leicester is going to work or lose little little speed up its velocity -- Say it fastball and learn attic in -- Amare."

" You know at say what though since since you I think he looks like the most promising left hander that -- maybe -- but if -- were talk about a guy here now. Who's going to lifetime regular season record bill of 29 and eight to start a career."

" I don't know I don't know I I. -- you know it's Purdue and despair he's got great stuff he's learned -- like their tech said he got to learn to work both by the -- well very technical anymore the outside. The ball -- he got hit. For the base hit that little -- down the right field line that drove in the first run. Good -- a bad pitch to -- a better changeup but he throws it to heart that double to Longoria yeah like Gloria but like that. You know -- and that he just excuse me drop they had the ball -- outside. That they hit his ball doesn't think like mine did you know and he's more of a power pitcher. Is going to have to learn how to take a little bit off that it's gotta learn to take more up his changeup. You know and withdraw that -- curveball and hang in Albany --"

" You know we watched Daisuke throw throated guys look like he's really kind of pick his spots this guy I don't want to deal with -- deal with. He ended -- the season opposing batters over fourteen with the bases loaded which is ridiculous for him to have fourteen times in -- bases loaded it's ridiculous to ole hole was the guy that you. -- at at which guy that was playing in the seventies when you were -- of the Red Sox was the guy you avoided like the plague."

" All right -- voided yeah. -- you know -- pitch around him over the next guy lot of guys when they're hot it stayed away from Miami Frank Robinson need to pitch him ever. Ever though there were a lot of guys that Jets. What is it did it was when there I would rather they actually built that like I never got build a --"

" He won a couple batting titles that I could there --"

" Warriors in -- National League is the only right hander to win four years of -- Roger -- he wants Warner Rahal. Or -- on my god though he -- hit into he didn't take batting right."

" Hey at Belle -- some along and it's the playoffs Mike's mantra has been. The rays are boring now I -- a you have a great influence on mr. Adams I think but would you when you look at this team during the summer and and obviously players talked a lot. And and certainly in the playoffs. Would you classify them as boring -- did you actually if you set yourself apart knowing that were all home with two certain degree want socks the you know being in the World Series again. But was -- a boring team TO."

" No they weren't boring they ran they did a lot of things. You know that I just you just can't have them when the world champs and say go from worst -- first they take the devil out of their first name them every McCain's gonna get elected in the world going to come that would."

" And you know -- totally NN about a who gets elected this time don't you think."

" Now you know I don't think so you know we've we've survived the depression we survived. Guys like Calvin Coolidge Herbert Hoover you know we can survive any of these two guys every they're politicians. Now you know why can't we get. Like really get a guy like. --"

" round that Sarah Palin. I don't think they're hunting hunting -- and and you know at that you remember Hewitt runner up the missile lap up my wife was missed the last. Not runner up Mary -- was Mary Lou was an actual yeah it was actual game in third and miss congeniality. The two malamute dogs and polar. That girl gave it to miss congeniality. Well where they smoke in his lap."

" Taylor speaking that I have a plan and are you -- the president 88 in the rhinoceros party but I think their run of president oak twelve or whatever it's called I don't know I think of that first. And I have of this very important piece of my platform. You legalize pot. Make the prisoners in America grow it and and that the country sells it pay for the prison system."

" We think well that's very good would you do if you make -- trails you make them build everything. To do trails transcontinental. Railroad that are high speed. That run on on super -- activity level pyramids. Germans. Yeah and you you grow you legalize it you know legalize marijuana as much as -- because it is. The largest producer of bio -- any way -- on the planet. RU SS constitution. The ship is made of it would end yeah. That our constitution is based on you know George Washington -- you know. You know that we didn't smoke it. I won't care what he did I don't think ultimately give it to the other jet."

" Cellular about it -- you won't believe this bill -- they actually discussing this on your wish it would have been a candidate. Because they are quite -- defense and is there you interact. Hey I love the idea and the concept of a pitching coach as the -- best cities that want to be -- hitting coach -- pitcher like you. Three -- have opening day went uncle bill good but."

" Where you have -- what's your major last year with the Expos reportedly team. Led the team hit. ERA got released yeah. Yeah he let the team media irate and hitting and got released a 'cause -- figure out evens them out basis obviously meant that."

" Now what that. It just goes to show that you're an outspoken critic of the system that they're going to get radius of."

" Okay how many men it's that they a lot of new for you Hall of Fame speech."

" I don't know end. Whatever they give me all maximize. -- this -- I hit that is not so much. I I really appreciate awaiting him ten years to put me in too late because it's given me a chance to work on this speak."

" I -- I. I should be he should be ready as can be quite a party that's writing in November so that it made her party then let yeah."

" You know I mean. Greg Brock threw me out I've been thrown out of Montreal have been thrown out of Boston have been thrown out of mode in new --"

" So I know what are you saying this -- emotional night they'll. Well not really know I know it'll be a great night because well it because this is something you do not only do deserve all of the law of long haul but. It's because it's been so long everybody gets their nose and it's been added it's going to be very well. Attended the premiere -- get some place at -- well."

" You've got to realize it was the Red Sox press department. The Red Sox. The -- club in all these people in in the area that really. Did not like -- when Dick O'Connell god rest his old side and Haywood Sullivan. And this is -- took over the organization I was persona non Grata in I was let go. You know and now they've weeded out most of them out of this system and now they've got. They've got some really smart people in there and they've done a great job with the ballpark in I would. You don't realize I have a guy that started save Fenway Park out of Cambridge. I of the reason they're great part is still there because of me in a group with guys that came Braves. Started state assembly part of it yet present. That was about. Fifteen years ago the jockey foundation faded. John Kerry and hated me because I said there's partners -- Jules do not sell it for land grab six sit up. Make it right in played football game the way it's supposed to be played and I mean there's no more emotional place. They're they have played park when they came back it one that all -- yeah right on."

" Talking about you know made the new ownership like -- John Henry you and I were with about thirty plus he'd love me. He thought I was cigarettes are all -- the majority wherein young I was guarding him in no way you will be on November 7 my friend and how's your dad doing."

" He has -- fine Mike thank you. We had a really -- got up five point bought into reading into those in the backyard and they got bedroom -- so they're put on a show from my old man."

" My best to Diana. Yeah and -- we'll talk to get back."

" Is straighten out the problems story about a guy's games still don't hurt. Don't worry too much about Barrett that you know I think if they'd just let me work with his -- slight --"

" Thanks buddy have a good night if you are they Americans the space men -- is just a crazed Pontiac always at a loss for words Andy on any subject to a you know. He got -- just go off. And that's what's great -- I -- it's a stream of consciousness through. And the one thing doesn't have which is I think the best they -- it -- a different way like so much does have a censoring device and in his own brain for himself now he just says. It doesn't matter politically correct incorrect left wing nut so out of this world weirdness. It's what's in his mind it comes out of his mouth he can't control your and he doesn't do effort for laughs he does because that's how earliest that all the time of the quality."

" How popular he'd -- today with his personality and I obviously have talent and -- anybody win seventeen games three years in a row is gonna earn some money in the devastated -- to you know back then it was a little different artistic widow -- 247 year -- with the -- I Q so quotable I'm -- of the he'd be on the TV plus -- competitive. -- you couldn't get him out of a one run game when he had the lead you needed a -- to get him off the mound he just wanted to stay in there. They never rain delays two hours to go back out and pitched five more innings you know is ridiculous."