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10-17-08 Holley & Felger Discuss The Sox Comeback

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Fri, 17 Oct 2008

Holley and Felger started today's show discussing the incredible comeback by the Red Sox in Game 5 of the 2008 ALCS.

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" this record is -- the latest we've ever started the DL -- holly program to 24. Friday was started. That's not a good start Felger -- we have a great Saturday. If they'll apologize to her in the open a Dallas got here he is traveling to Tampa for game six. Something you did not think was possible I'd -- in the top of the seventh I still opal last night I don't equipment top of the summit -- The worst I felt. The kind of the kind of guy you gotta be what you like you're not. In in twenty years 25 years you've got to be one adult old bastard guys that we make fun of now and I what you want to -- ever. It's all a lot -- That's a team with an eight you know record go to the Super Bowl. And lose to the Giants an unbelievable play of some kid catching up Paula is Helmut. I thought the Boston Red Sox come from 7 down. In the seventh inning to win a playoff game gonna Tampa. Number one of those we are we all are because we've seen so much in the past."

" Odd years and while but it an immediate perspective that game last night. Is on the list it's on the list with a bloody sock it on the list with a snowball and Adam Vinatieri kicked. It's on the list with Super Bowl 36 it's on the list with that big comeback game last year for the Celtics against the Lakers in the finals right. Immediately instant classic that it's ridiculous and aren't -- you're --"

" You're not going to be a media guide about forty years. Calling into talk radio -- that VW EI somewhere. And talk radio saying like my car I saw this. My goodness all my head that was fans -- unbelievable speaking of Kurt good morning. First. All. -- whatever it just click on the next day. There -- on the -- but that was an unbelievable game last night. A bit -- W will be gone if it is beyond where they were left for dead. By a lot of people. By a lot of Red Sox fans. TBS cameras caught. Fans at Fenway Park trickling out the seventh inning with a two run double you weren't there where I was not there that I know it was odd but. Maybe some -- and and and a -- like what -- lately well no we've talked about this for the most of policies but that's stadium I've never heard it's applied last night last night even worse. In the previous games where it's been dead. I'd never heard that stadium soul. Why the fourth fifth sixth -- what you don't know what it was quiet anger. Because. I think people really start to hit it start at that. They were going to lose the American league championship -- games and losing in five competitive games. For the third consecutive game it looked like the Red Sox were even going to be competitive. That. Series. News at the end. The better team we try to target because if we we just work out that one but take out five zip. And following. A game when they went five and another game when they went out -- Like seven are now things get frustrated angry two outs in the seventh down seven. I mean what -- Does not have literally it does not. Does not out and out takes up about. Usually a team does not happy but he knew your depth experience. And have. You know what what we saw last night in the seventh inning with Craig -- I'm honest people watching -- people had turned the channel. This is. A series. And on TBS. It seemed logical time. When when Craig Sager -- microphone for a product chuck Lamar former. The former GM of the Tampa bay rays. It was five. Runner was on first base at the end of the interview which last three minutes forty seconds. It was enough. A World Series preview -- talk talk it over it got -- I don't blame you sure it was amazing you should start doing that so now here's a question. Where we go from here was that the great comeback."

" How lot Celtics versus New Jersey -- 2002 of the Celtics. You know destroy New Jersey and -- walker and Paul Pierce are on the scorers table. Celebrating and that was the last victory for the Celtics huge -- that's close a huge difference the nets were better team. These teams are pretty equal. Okay so are are you willing to take the leap from where we."

" We're -- most of the series ultimately like 5050 shot out of and you didn't want you may even have to favor the Red Sox at this point because. When it -- like act don't just say. You know the guy -- down and I want it's -- like -- big goofy like that hire our work but. We've all been at this before we've seen things like that -- series and you've got to say here's -- I have a question. The broadcast last night that the they had champagne in the Tampa clubhouse have to okay -- don't don't. How that heart stopping at a plastic up yet and don't political back and forth the club off all throughout the game. So if you're ready and you are you saw put to rest -- seventh inning or whatever you gone back and forth -- about -- or have a depth whatever those guys do. And they see that she all over their -- how well now got packing up and downed the Tampa."

" They do in the day. They they'll use you don't but it up in the -- somewhere around the eighth inning what I had a very there's some guys back there in the eighth inning I'm sure they had the goggles ready. Planning your champagne they have plenty of beer it doesn't -- yet and -- did you think -- use them in the clubhouse it's not about in the dugout. They were so excited about it and I don't blame them for doing any of those things such -- at that's. You know felt I don't buy team wide. Psychological damage team -- I don't think there's this team is shaken from the experience you will not team wide but I believe. Individual guys. It'll shake all -- overwhelmed and Wheeler not Dan Wheeler was hurt last night. Dan Wheeler was scared of the situation he probably felt like. All the Fenway Park was on his shoulders and you could see he already. When he's not owners of that little -- shore with the glove the twins got lower rich got small like he messed up the twitch but I candidate but but the twits with that was a nervous -- At the end of the night. I don't give an example broke out of the Carlos Pena is nervous on the -- cycle psychologically damage I don't think Evan Longoria I don't think BJ Upton. "

" Member Brad Lidge in Houston home but he gave up to L rules yet the privilege to hear he's good now again he's back closing of relief. It took literally this guy before that home run was a hundred mile -- hour flame throwing putting touch them. Walls hit the longest home run we've ever seen in Italy took wage two years to crawl out of that hole so I mean Wheeler if he's not shaken from that he's not human. Well rocket Wheeler. And now you're the one that that really gets an and that that's what baseball so great in this kind of game you can do it and this is why I think it's not lock but the Red Sox did last night court is not luck is -- two strike pitches they fought off and how many one pitch at bat. I Belfour had -- it was seven nothing Belfour had Pedroia. Eight pitch at bat. He would at least five pitches to put away couldn't do. In the -- how -- crispy Coco Crisp an at bat in the eight was eleven pitches attempts -- to tend to -- ten pitches. He pulled off six he had six pitches which who strikes and he got through it. -- Ten pitches he had six pitches that at his public to strike this is who they both got clocked at and so."

" This is what they do -- the Red Sox have been doing all. So that's not a surprise that the surprises. They were it would -- well this -- so productive. In a short amount. To be able to do that with seven outs. We have seven outs to work where you've got zero runs on the board and got seven -- I still don't believe it I don't believe it. It was a shocking right like the top of the TV be honest I turnoff I -- turn the team you're. I didn't do. -- was just think about the you know what was going to be like today with the caller -- you start like I've got it all just run out of right exactly in Francona going to continue to take the heat. For game two did that change -- what happened to the pitching. A lot of things. I think it's a question what happened the starting pitching -- it's it's a legitimate question still is an end Anthony. Even though I have a lot of confidence in many guys in the -- and that. Competent and one -- one -- since about it. Keep sane and NY we hadn't been for a widely week to week talk about masters. Like -- about the game to the Angels and ops and 8 am Pacific as it grows up he's going to be like Derek -- and Derek Lowe was a reliever. You know setting -- Tom Gordon. And I went as far as Rivera when he was setting -- Right now. He still shaky. He's erratic. With his control. Batters over 300 against them to big double play ball we talk -- it was great double play -- double -- we talk about him like he's -- to. Rise as yet in the fact. That the managers putting him in in this position says more about the personnel in the bullpen that does the."

" Absolutely I great but it's -- about the starting pitching I mean of all the concerns we might have had going into the series. The starting pitching not out of the box like it has -- not been been anywhere near the list and it got it now."

" R I heard John Jerry talking about moving -- Jon -- to game six and I don't know what their plan was for game seven I totally disagree. If you don't think if you don't think. Josh Beckett can pitch in game six org or in game seven if you if you if you want to take away his start and he should be out of the rotation altogether. Give him Josh Beckett is in the rotation. That means they believe and he can give him five it."

" games I didn't mean just Zoe note facts -- Muslim wrong on this Matsuzaka would be on four days he pitched. On Sunday is that it would be at three days' rest of forty he pitched on its last night pitched on Tuesday. It was an off day he pitched on Tuesday and Wednesday -- that's why aren't. Although I think that are now dugout I don't know OK so -- offer decent dark and don't like product didn't want to pick dugout. So you have you have Beckett tomorrow. Games six and -- if you're fortunate not to get to seven Jon Lester yeah. In my heart like Leicester but I am going to give Terry the call now when that they are pretty good on it and he's been right about it a for a lot of things and you know what. It's totally in character that's what I like about it it's totally consistent. What did last week what they do last year the situation they were and they were down. One of the Indians had a chance to bring back Beckett on three days to pitch game two okay and in that situation you could've brought back Beckett to pitch on three days. For game four and and you would have had a month four days for game seven so you're down 21 Wakefield was going to start the game and a lot of us that. Bring back in this went back it was a 100% how right he was mowing people down he was untouchable. A lot of us that bring back Beckett on three days for game four and then you have him on regular rest for game seven -- pitch Wakefield. And the Sox said nope we don't do that Wakefield went game four and lost. And then they went as well -- what Beckett Schilling Matsuzaka and the one."

" Series has received drug that you brought up last year because it kind of ties in to something. The Curt Schilling was talking about John Jerry fantastic interview panel look at that what he said. Terry Francona smart and you. He knows more than you do he is doing what he believes is the best route to put this team in position when it. -- Last year we were saying move up back it why not he had a relatively easy start against the Indians in game one. In pitch that on pitch counts -- an issue featured guy adamant there if Francona said we don't do that they don't after the season. We find out that they couldn't deal. Josh Beckett had a little bigger issue last year and he wasn't ready to pitch after three days he wasn't ready -- a back issue -- That is something -- we'll find out all that we'll find out the real story in the season if it ends up the World Series we'll find out that ends tomorrow night. We'll find out what's really lot wrong with guys we will not find out right now. Terry Francona is playing in the game as he should when they sing it -- K well we don't do that that's not entirely true. They might do it if Annika last year didn't have the option of moving moving Josh Beckett up we know it until the season was over so you think there's something wars that Beckett and -- Worse with Beckett not as bad as Tom Purdue Q reports -- they went out of their way to knock down that report there's there's importantly how can you eyeballs and pitched it -- not pitch with a horribly. -- take a break we gotta we gotta start."

" All we're what we're not going to speak for you -- Planning to talk a total leaving lots lots of baseball on the table there's upon the table too but mostly baseball. Michael Felger is he hired Dale Arnold is in Tampa question that the Tampa for one game or two Ito. I -- yesterday. Don't let the Red Sox win. Don't let the Red Sox win because and it went out Hodges to win must god that was -- And yes. Joe Matt was right and it didn't make a difference. Was absolutely right. -- was wrong all wrong SA line all good pocket ago Kazmir over James -- he was right Kazmir was shutting them down. But it became a bullpen game and what became a bullpen game. Anti thought it would Kaman I'd be capable opening game probably two innings later -- John Madden dot. I advocate in the back with my music and I gotta be ready in the fifth or sixth. Forecast is weird how early he goes to Wheeler. And he's become their closer right. Well when he got Alaska it meanwhile animal for so many innings because he's not here. He is not the best it's not like he's head and shoulders above the other guys back here. Best of the role he's so while that's pretty important you know what you thought -- guys -- is there a big difference became a two outs in the seventh. Lebanon after their big you big difference between Wheeler out four and Howell in your mind probably not public the way they're being used that you ask any bullpen guy. I just one know might also get the timing down when -- up where they don't and it almost it very point of the they don't have that luxury now. I have that luxury with personal."

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