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8-13-08 Peter Gammons, ESPN

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Wed, 13 Aug 2008

Peter Gammons joined Dale and Michael to talk all things Red Sox and Major League Baseball. Also the guys talked about the upcoming "Hot Stove, Cool Music" event. For more information on the event, visit hotstovecoolmusic.org.

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" Joining us on the line right now is so while one of our favorite people got -- we talked to. Occasionally from time to time just not on the air could you haven't heard him on the air here in awhile. He is going to be part of base spectacular. Program. That will be taking place. The Bank of America pavilion northern avenue and South Boston coming up on August 17 that's Sunday. -- doors open at five show starts at six. We are talking about blues legend buddy guy. A classic rockers George -- in the destroyers. Theo Epstein will be up performing Peter Gammons hot stove all stars will be performing. And Peter Gammons joins us on the line right now hope Peter."

" Play out if Hendry I I don't remember the 800 number -- it reflected imprinted in my blowing forever. War. It -- I was wholly owned subsidiary of different."

" Brady used that 800 number when everyone. And how that field you know at that corporations feel like they can toss -- around and do whatever they well with."

" Well the problem is they can't. Tell us. But they drove multinationals."

" I was I was at Disney couple weeks ago with the family and we're at the Hollywood studios and on one of the back -- they have this chart yet the poster. Of Stuart Scott and it just scared me I mean a whole thing is Stuart Scott Scott stare and -- from Disney. That's a very big deal down there hey how many of these hot stove cool music things have you done."

" Well I would go for the summer and -- the the one -- the -- which we do with the parted this part of that it 2000. Well. I guess we've done what we've done put this -- duplicate it would down south. It's been a lot of fun. You know that the foundation in game later that well but all of it is important to Tibet has so many people in this city and -- They're also very strongly about it so it's. It's it's stood out to be a lot of fun and it's also true that to be very bad luck or important very defensive."

" People -- read your column over the years have seen a lot of musical references that you've made. But maybe even your devoted fans don't know just how serious you are about music can you tell people. How how serious yard obvious in how he got involved in the first place."

" Well I mean. They're part of my father actually as a musician and teacher musician. Despite. Church organist and -- is that they expect out of classical musician which is to rub off on me but. -- played -- but I wasn't I schooled college and then appears to go happily started -- vocal music from the the musicians. Could -- out of retirement -- I have been. We put up a CD which also -- the the benefits foundation be named later entirely in the well I mean. Put it this way the my secret is to have as many good musicians around me as possible so people over here. Very important."

" What Theo liked as a musician."

" He's got if you don't have a lot of private practice these days -- between now. Between. Baseball operations and his son Jack other a lot of time for him to not to emulate any better anymore."

" How do you get guys like buddy guy in George thorough good how to get them to be a part of this."

" Well this was done by a -- nation dialogue and we decided to part dropped them to control of the pavilion we -- don't. Commute at Fenway Park. But. But just got a little bit difficult to. To be able to really put together and and the crime involved an expense and what the issue was good enough to to come to listen and industrial what we can put the -- on -- the that they have flopped on the course it's fun for me to actually. Two years ago -- Patriot pins with George burger on all the different but he he does all the sounds of the Qatar what you know. What. What. Brady just is that both sound like him but after Georgia's eight devoted baseball and so. He is still not toward the summary of the semi pro team quote Delaware destroyers. Bill ballpark in Newport Delaware can't believe you received Delaware uses and if what almost fanatical baseball -- night and now all. If you guys know that such a -- nutrition for the athletes it's going to be a musician so we all kind of we --"

" Quoting you from your latest blog. The best song this year is indeed my buddy guy and Derek trucks why."

" I just a phenomenal all I mean it's. Like like to cut it down Billick told iTunes downloaded it it's -- got less. And I'm a great believer in the -- truck is the greatest looking the part where he actually maybe it's going to be definitely -- depends on how -- shall go on Saturday night but. If drifted through as. Terrific talk about. Equality in and and so forth but I I highly recommend. What really reminds me of very much covered up. The last deal that the reverend CL let this bother it was a great gospel singer back in the yet in the fifty."

" I bought a copy of never slow down never grow old Peter Gammons CD it's -- good by the way and I know that if you go to hot stove cool music dot org you can order. Did people buy this thing."

" Now we'd we did pretty well actually the funny thing is I -- it fly and -- and what should help from heaven -- the first one is about she came up as -- Montana. And all of sudden one day I got a call from. Lose to a dot com telling me that it was the most popular song. Ever mentioning this to look -- turned out only Paul Revere & the Raiders since Jimmy Buffett has. Actually ever mention the -- look at it this far but I'm -- really popular in the hula."

" As you're able to talk Jimmy Buffett of and I thought that be proud of he's an extremely popular with a lot of people. APR let's talk of baseball -- second not I know you've seen many baseball games over the years. How did you compare. Last night's game to some of the games you see."

" Well. The order is kind of reminded me of the famous 2322. Phillies Cubs game. Back in the I think it -- in the eighties when not. The company -- patriots' 41 to nine lead -- one point 322. -- editorial and and I read affiliate one point eight between two. But it. It was so -- not. I help help badly chosen because. -- knuckleball. The knuckleball picks. -- resolute personnel. Not want to pick admire most about Tim Wakefield it never did it and you never panics. As they've admitted that Vick can't let the game get out of handled that what he fascinated me because. I remember -- Wakefield. Maybe it's great quantum leap in 95 for the Red Sox when he was what fifteen of one of one point two in a piece on the history of knuckleballer. And most of them made it. Between the ages of 2830 to a record 100 anticipate it until the third. -- post break out here with a 28 and truly helped the 28 and so I was thinking -- here maybe. You know maybe -- maybe this is going to -- securities sink in what Kevin Cash who believe it is going to let. That we really -- while of course the Rangers controllable. But. -- I don't think overcame a Terry Francona really enjoyed mention."

" We're trying to figure this out yesterday you mentioned these knuckleballer Charlie Huff and Tony grow. We we were looking at Charlie's -- throwing an eighty mile per hour fastball. And I can't remember I don't remember Niekro throwing a fastball or hop thrown a fastball the."

" No actually get what he originally signed. But and I think he could throw eighty to 82. Early in his career I don't -- golf course was -- well because it was a below average sinker slider pitcher with the Cubs and I think the Tigers before he became a knuckleballer that it. He he is career turned at the age 32. But there haven't been many knuckleballer -- that -- And so. If its usual and again coming out of at a lot of things that gave up Wakefield. Is how creatively when he loses about one inning -- game Howard ghost is -- all those few more fastballs. And off the purple rediscovers is not -- that's. Part of this experience and part of his -- Wakefield. Being. Either distinct sort of tough guy and never giving him back. If it's a fascinating commissioner kind like the Charlie -- it would put the White Sox sold 8586. But he just can't it cannot maintain. It -- when things -- source of speed up and it goes down the current."

" We don't know when Paul Byrd went on waivers are cleared waivers it was probably around the first of the month. Is that the reason why the Yankees didn't try to block this thing simply because he was -- that great big bunch of guys who -- cleared waivers two weeks ago."

" Yeah I mean and I actually asked. Probably Indians people on Sunday why -- I heard Paul Byrd. And they figure out there almost no call couldn't understand that we did beat the Yankees and Red Sox in the playoffs last year. And then they told me yesterday that. About 24 hours later they get three or four really frantic call Cyprus and the White Sox one of the but the Yankees he also got a disposition of we're going to wait until we see what he brings back a little wait to see. What happens Levine Kennedy -- to develop our young pitchers -- it was my understanding as of Sunday that when. John Washburn waivers cleared at a -- of 2 o'clock yesterday. -- were going to pass on him through so. Yankees are certain opposition is almost like the Red Sox in. In 2006 sort of looking forward try to build for the next year rather than. Trying to. -- tonight but hank Steinbrenner comments. Yes your pretty interesting -- can can we talked about next year. Put Connecticut and insult -- two out Beckett and Matsuzaka and Lester but that's a tank."

" Well think about this year. In the AL east you're going to mention these three the three teams that we always mention the Yankees the Red Sox and rays. Now they all have some injury concerns. -- do you see emerging from the division."

" And I actually think they'll let us in the in the Whitney division just because. I. I thought the race -- great chance at making up for the loss of one Gordon Crawford is going to be really helped. And I and I hate the way the resting Beckett. To approve around the slammed the door and go back to being number one guy and as well as Matsuzaka it's. Therefore pleased very that I. You know I don't -- going to be the offensive Dynamo that they were a couple of years ago but they they have shown. It would -- getting hurt some signs of started. To come around than I think they'll handle -- pick and end up winning division LP vehicles in the playoffs is another issue entirely -- Just to make the playoffs it would be pretty remarkable -- at this point."

" But Colts is going to go back to Pawtucket then go back to working on whatever arm slot issues they they think he has. Were you surprised they asked him undertake this project in the middle of -- season the way they did."

" Not really because he had me so losses delivery. And yeah he he's so inconsistent with the -- point. I didn't think that he would go to I mean I don't think he was going to win where he wants and he struggled with -- so what is surprising because you know it is incredible up. -- the -- that was one of the top recruited more probable highly recruited quarterback in the country out of high school. And you know. -- possibly can -- run Ellsbury and yet now he he can't maintain his delivery but now obviously we sometimes forget. Certainly got a white goes out for some athletes that it ought to grenades and goals are rather. Comparing anyone to Jon Lester. Is probably a little bit unfair terms Emeka."

" Peter and and one of his first story zero for espn.com. David Halberstam went on and on about Joe Torre how much respect the gas form. And I share that apparent that allowed Joe Torre at the two did a great job in New York. What what's going on with his call bows in Los Angeles and you'd think he'll be able to. Quote unquote handle Manny rumors."

" Oh I think so -- get one thing is that many. Anything else he's okay he's out of the contract could -- be appreciated now. There there's no concern about him fulfill his obligation. As there was here I think he'll -- that contract and there are other issues on the Dodgers and I think that it is in many ways many helps. Do of those patients well funny -- being around the Dodgers is how much the veteran players crash. Kemp Loney. Young guys on that you know -- little bit cocky yet they are but. I'm Matt kept Lilly. And -- yes we are really important very good player and yet there's always has that been the backbiting peculiar prisoners. Is very unseemly and I'll being I I think -- local dealing with a appliances here but I think many sort of in order to get a haircut and what that's like second I think that many becoming. The issue. Probably takes a lot of pressure off Kemp Loney and guys like and so it's you know people say all we have more than just Russell Martin we have. A lot of good young players here that the -- that way many -- now how. Track record deals with the issue when he as a player. That has an option. And he doesn't want to have that option picked up by the club prep course basically said we now say that -- the the options are no doubt about. This is accepted that and saw how he feels let down the line is going to be very -- I think he's going to be a lot of trouble. Dealing with what players in the future."

" You know Peter we still get the occasional phone call. From Manny apologist Manny fans. Who were angry at the Red Sox and say the Red Sox could have told Manny something different they could have picked up his option they could've. Calm the situation so would be so chaotic and he'd be in Los Angeles. Do you agree with that they have to do what they did."

" Well yes because it wasn't he -- option picked up that was the whole point he wanted to -- created he was convinced. Then he is getting 100 million dollars for years at the end of this year as a free. That's. Outlook repeated that. Player's helmet as Scott Boras -- too. And he wanted out of that option and dealt black Jack I have a problem it would it would be like John black. Who has served as an option for next here -- nine point five minute John Lackey was created the in this year's runner up probably half dozen best pitchers currently. If you brought -- market get fifteen million dollars a year for at least five years. But now he could sit down and not interest say for today and and not allowed page. And you know until the club. They're all will be even if you can't you can be -- created -- same effect as what may get I think it got to the -- it was impossible. And elegant offensive people talk about. All we know what's David Ortiz gonna do well it's in 2006 Manny Ramirez played six games in September Ortiz is second in the in the American League don't PS many played in six games in September last year won in one. He hit behind Ortiz and Ortiz let the situation Nokia itself. Now twelve games in two years in the month of September. Full Red Sox that he very well like just certain goal you know about class and I get my hundred million and state that it can't they could."

" Scott Boras good enough to convince on National League team. To fork over that kind of money for a guy was gonna have to play the outfield at forty and 41."

" I don't know I I I think the other thing that's interesting here is Will Scott or be represented. Com open -- because gene Bartow who was you guys know what his. His guy when he was represented by kept more at a later my legacy sports. -- got permission two weeks ago to leave a legacy which was the company then it would represent my visit the post -- more company. He got permission to go to Beverly Hills sports council. And according to the people like if -- made the promised about Beverly Hills sports council. You hired me I'm going to deliver Manny Ramirez and you'll get the -- the end of the year so. That Michael well like I can't remember what what the number that watched part of gave me on the number of Asia have -- is that true over the years with the without surprising if you went through created -- here."

" Peter I'll never expect fans to love sports agents to me I think a lot of frantic agent says inherently evil people but. I have a lot of respect for Scott Boras do you think this -- is misunderstood I mean he does a lot of it -- and they'd have a lot of good things for the game but. Is a very prepared very smart agent would you agree with that."

" Very smart agent and I think in in a lot of ways what do you think he does every I do respect a lot if you really flying. He really try to help his clients. And get them to be able to. -- be able to did not only conditioning but he tried to make them aware of you know their obligation now in many case. I think once he planted the idea. Of the 100 million dollars I think it was impossible for -- the -- back. But I think he's in tremendous -- I mean there's some of the contract he's gotten to people now if you take your contract from -- sure. He's truly she or he gets four years a hundred million -- for Manny Ramirez is -- anything I don't see either happening but. You know Scott shot be many times and giving me that call I told myself felt -- I didn't. I kind of fascinating to talk to the deal with because. As much as he beat the I think he dislikes management a lot of ways he's going to blow the game. And the people work -- possible in the former blue -- met -- picture that there really isn't. Economic brain and that company I mean did -- love the game and it is it's sort of oh -- I hell wish that. That's what sometimes some of the so people could get to build a little bit better -- see how they operate in. You don't want that's their job -- agent I'd probably be the same --"

" Sunday night Bank of America pavilion northern avenue and South Boston. The doors will open at five -- shall start at six. It is hot stove cool music it will feature blues legend buddy guy Red Sox executive vice president general manager Theo Epstein will be performing. ESPN's Award winning baseball correspondent Peter Gammons will be performing. A hot -- all stars I have to admit Fermi Peter if I or -- to attend on Sunday night what I would want to hear. Blaring out of my speakers. Was deaths. George thorough good in the destroyers will be there as well. You can't beat him nearly fan and in this town and not like this song right."

" Lipton that he got -- good enough to. The player might he be and I met I'm counting on him for play that's sort of for the United. You go to putts. George was at the that's quite good but he would he's ever had came on August 1 1973 and the reason you've never seen video. Is in the old days the afternoon game but never on local fellow. And in those days in this war before. Either you -- would remember this but I couldn't relief companies. --"

" TV stations would come over to cool. Video and about the stations so don't nobody there in the ninth inning when. So reluctant confidence began their ball lasted for like forty minutes -- Jordan -- free beer on that date so. It got perverts like Yankee lore."

" If you go to hot stove cool music dot org. I you can get tickets you can get information hot stove cool music dot org all the information is there all of the proceeds benefit the foundation to be named later. Peter it was fun to talk baseball with the again and -- to help promote this event as well good talk today."

" They Pataki thank you very much."

" I Peter thanks take care. That is at Peter Gammons for ESPN a wholly owned subsidiary of the ABC corporation. It is a great event. It'll it'll take place Sunday night Bank of America pavilion northern avenue and South Boston I mean great music. Terrific musicians. Would be surprised if there. Few baseball players in the house I would think so. Theo will be their Peter will be performing I have Peters latest CD it's good. He beat puts a lot of effort into it."

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