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Thu, 7 Aug 2008

Felger and Dickerson start Thursday's show by discussing Favre, the Red Sox, and other hot topics in sports.

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" Good morning shots way to go rounding into form right there are given to -- immaterial. Day after day after day -- Greg Dickerson Comcast sports that spelling and -- DN CA. Adam -- after the NFL network judges in the 8 o'clock hour rest your phone calls and -- emails and god diversify leveled at today's -- I've -- nothing but Red Sox. That got there's something else that and possibly might want to get into -- Simone and happily talked nothing but Red Sox. How does the Brett -- of trade do you think affect Manny Ramirez -- and I thought about it I don't know people that."

" Pardon our along. Our long national nightmare is over forget about oil prices gas prices. Through the mortgage crisis Fannie Mae Freddie Mac forget about all bat. Finally ESPN. May return to regular programming. But will -- The fact he goes are I mean it's good point by you know but it but at least. At least this version is is about an angle -- at least now maybe -- I don't know. Talk about the NBA schedule but they -- shows some. Baseball highlights and then go back to Brett -- is in the New York."

" That's a possible outcome for everybody. For everybody. And I've been saying. For years but not the Donna Brett harper about some battery -- that. -- people's -- what -- you you know blouses or what I want to -- vote is ultimately to the best possible thing would via trade and I would always say. For example. For example when Brett Farber New York beat rates. Is that under the team of Joan aim at you put it in the league's top media market you give them. In the AFC where they object obviously have a giant chubby to take down the New England Patriots and doing everything they possibly can. -- it's revitalized his career and and -- other franchise. And and -- that much it everybody wins to say he goes to New York and I always said that. And now he goes it's great it's great for everybody everybody went."

" Except that it no it's great for everybody except for the New York -- that -- I guess you don't like -- I don't think it's going to do many good at least on the field and I don't like they're doing it you said they got a -- got a giant chubby. For the Patriots they got a giant chubby. Put a New York Giants and trying to on the back pages of all the New York newspapers like they did this morning it's it's got a similar to the Mets and the Yankees with a you know have gone back and forth against one another and -- Oates right -- but but in the -- I think what what Tampa bay did was they backed off when they said okay. It's worth the fronts for fourth round pick but if we got to throw it up an in depth and possibly a first or second we're going to try to match the jets' offer. It doesn't make sense for -- because guess what. We don't need -- the Jets the Jets desperately need them we've already got a pretty good quarterback and always 38 Jeff Garcia but. We -- division last year we're not as desperate as the New York jets' offer variety and it sounded desperate deal to -- A fourth romp picking Ohio paced outperform its. Pharmacy. Basically it's it's based on snaps and get out there okay do we have those exact conditions yeah and it and I I forget or right we're right -- exactly. Are -- goal all the away and it it was in the month in the New York Daily News goes all the way up to 81 round pick. If far plays in 80%. Of the plays. And the Jets go to the symbol."

" Take to the Super Bowl or Peppers up. For the Jets. That's great exactly I'm talking about people's space in the fourth. Of public public public good deal but I don't -- all the terms have been released from. If he gets the the two days ago. If he gets 70% of the snaps and the Jets make the playoffs. Becomes the second round there 80%. The Super Bowl wise up there. Bart takes you back to the playoffs in that division. The second round pick. Roberts -- a team that. Won six games have a I was understand one thing -- you do a damn good good for New York -- team that went -- while they spent a lot of money during the offseason. What do they get that's such an overstatement want to it and it it's going to make a better team and it felt all of her you do over the last. Six years that I I don't know this is ripped the crap out of -- I. What's it all you've done is said that Brett Farr is overrated at its best days are behind him way overrated as -- as outlined okay so so we're talking about. A 38 year old quarterback who is not only on the back nine but he's probably playing the seventeenth and eighteenth hole of his career. How does that help. 4 and twelve team. It really isn't that good with all the improvements the Jets made the -- they went seven games protect them from seven Winston nine went that maybe the playoffs mean art when team Greg ten wins twelve wins he improves that team. Definitely. Well. Couples. Not far because you are all you've got his rep Brett Farr and I'll repeat as an agreement -- I. It's all. Orders -- could it -- ER about it E I did -- me and let the dale and -- against Kelly and you're you're one of us now because you work here again it's either the greatest thing ever use. Agent in the metal -- are. Makes you better he'd like mr. bubble team. If they make the playoffs and get into the playoffs. There will be a playoff game. Where he will simply hand the game to the opposition as does not make Jets in my opinion he's Super Bowl team because Brett bar does not win in the playoffs anymore. But of horse makes them better better than Pennington he is better than Clemens he makes them better like."

" My point is seed Ivan debate about -- shots you get elect a booster seat I'd I'd. I'm having a hard time looking all the way up Felder on his high horse he's at this morning good guy makes them. Marginally better I understand what they're trying to do I understand they're they're moving into a new stadium and a couple of years and there's one story says. Woody Johnson's trying to sell. PS -- I understand they're trying to battle volley that knowing the Patriots but the other team in their backyard the New York Giants so from that standpoint yes. It's a good deal of it for the yeah for the New York Jets from a football standpoint. Just don't see IC AA football team that spent a lot of money. During the offseason on on a bunch of guys -- I don't but I think marginally. Improve the team you're talking about Damien Woody signing him up to a a fairly sizable deal Alan Faneca. Another nice offensive lineman but he's 32 years another nice offensive lineman Al Packers -- the best guard in the -- the last August 32 years old -- so well on the back nine. That's my point. You're looking at a team that got rid of Dewayne Robertson a team and I knowing that you saw I know he was injured for proportional -- Jonathan Vilma doesn't suck. I know there there are you was what if there are questions about his knee and they and I know they need to necessarily fit into the 34 defensive Eric Mangini but he is a great player."

" But the rest of that jet -- out of Brett -- help defensively. But -- does nothing but the fact that the Jets last year ranked eighteenth in points allowed giving up twenty to a game he does nothing. For the fact that the Jets ranked 25 in the NFL last year in third down defense. He only hearts the fact that the Jets had a negative turnover margin last year minus four ranked twentieth in the league are going to make that worse not better agree. Great people New York. The national media are going to go over and overboard now the Jets are a player with the Patriots and the Jets have made themselves miserable team I think that's ridiculous. But this is his. That acquisition is a marginal marginal upgrade. So they go from -- opened throughout the playoffs. Take a look at their -- felt I figure -- I think the schedule after -- okay why. -- and that's something you guys like are you dollars donation -- to run on this -- is -- all about asinine thing. How important yup the papers were miserable by last year. But I believe 11 point did you and I I was wrong. Points to the Patriots -- the Baltimore Ravens by last year or about the I I don't remember nights it was somewhere in doubled to right 25 points it turns out that the Patriots stuff that's games they have last year with the exact game that you said they're winning by three of four touched on that never works out police that there August and happen out or anything Goodyear. Doing the right well I mean there's two things just didn't want to. Do particularly -- Yeah and what is -- season records and everything look at the schedule Monica it's just on -- and the second thing is I asked for the good things that we do produced film about the technical at this it is -- as their daughter -- totally he would do just only just. -- all -- and this representing and and and marginalizing its moments does that make them look bad and then sort of pump up your argument by. I think that they never. I -- don't play any brits today jobs they're having having to authorities he's very sensitive to write his diapers a little wet today Brett are. Grossly overrated. But that doesn't mean he's not critical at the -- out of it."

" I understand. Electronica back to the scheduling I I know what you're saying and listen we all know -- is guess why I knew I guess what. You had a radio show for three years and credit the schedule for a while many -- you know what you better and the rest of your back. Okay. At you very much judge that's why your backyard Hewitt got it maybe you would have been successful. Okay but now it. There's a difference between looking at the schedule when it comes out in April and looking at it and tried to. Make something out of it in the middle of August when you're already training camp and pre season games that start I understand that. A November game against St. Louis right now may not be the same as eight. At as a week before that game because we don't know if maybe better than injuries St. Louis may be better or worse a lot of the schedule like it is is borderline asinine but I can't. Okay but based on the information that I have. Right now. And allowing the team's -- what I've seen in reading what I read I can't formulate at least an opinion now understanding that may veritable chains like as players every time we looked. At an NFL team schedule. And we sale. They're going to have a good year they're going to have a bad you're like it's always want to almost always wrong one of the most overrated things people at that schedule. I I think the first couple weeks is fairly valid. By -- gonna go they will start with anything past that is why it is that ridiculous the Jets host Arnold for what his -- Miami at Miami. Miami it was a bad team last year but. Again is automatic I don't -- an automatic -- but it they'll lose on the road you're also asking Brett -- Those two jumping him in a new offense a month and -- camp already pre season game. They will play pre season game law tonight as a matter of backs obviously -- missed not one. -- at the Patriots. In week number two -- to go up the San Diego music on the Chargers and we -- excited to -- as -- we aren't yet -- Patriots fan. Products that yes. Had an awesome as if the game doesn't already have. I'm not meeting in the game this already means something's yes now what sport does but that doesn't that still hasn't changed. My my opinion that I opened that this helps the Jets got much on the field."

" It helps them you know the that much big the amount of what helps is that debate but I don't I can't say. It doesn't mean I think far there's a chance and there's chance great that -- falls on his face because. -- has basically. Played in one -- and higher careers west -- quarterback and I would assume that there was career teammate it's been roughly the same terminology roughly the same playbook roughly the same. Apparatus and -- that this guy that does not like the poems that that it does not like to put in the work to get -- seven plays in his repertoire and that's in the school. In the class -- he's not back again and how he's going to New York and he's going to put an all that time and effort to learn the terminology. Plays the new alliances. Wide shot I'm offense. I don't he's going to put out pork. I think there's a chance that he becomes a flop because -- chance a chance. In terms of raw talent and what you'd rather pitcher like interpreted Jets going into the season Clemens Chad Pennington but our. Can make them better but I find wildly entertaining. The chubby. The Jets protect on the Patriots and all the things they've done. In the last two years from trading up to detail Revis last year in the money -- around this offseason Calvin Pace outside linebacker. From by Arizona they sign Kerry Jenkins the deepened the -- from the Packers that they sign. The Vernon Gholston -- all the things that they've done mean geez it's. All all geared towards. On the Patriots it's all that they think about it's what gives Woody Johnson oh Woody if you will I would say what every what do what do the Red Sox do for so many years I'm trying to take down the Yankees and -- trying to do with the reds starting -- bell a check for spy gate for tampering with Deion Branch but all it on the line. Are obsessed. With the Patriots that's good business that's great and you don't beat the terrorism. The little bit of a session coming from all day in Foxboro going bodies are covered the -- for a day or statements of bad. A place to build -- just refers to the Jets the Jets it averages -- the Jets. -- always hate them like. The point where he can't stand taller. It is what it is that Jack green whatever that a -- of green -- can't stand it by the way and country produced this do. This goes beyond what is was before. Models by -- last year. That that hatred well like with or that -- to a all of a sudden didn't come out. -- Again what the Jets gave up. The -- part makes decried. If they make it to the superbowl give up a first round pick it up -- round pick. To -- Super -- again -- of the 1960. He takes based it's going to be a third round -- and Adams after citizen you meant to fall from Iran on the show. 50% of the snaps it becomes a third round. So you've got to assume he's playing policies and -- I've no question about it far. -- national review reports. In sixty games every snap that matters he always does. -- if you if if you're green. -- to a question as. -- playing that up on season opens as a stand Ricky -- your item for twelve hours on that Saturday the first -- money season. What the Packers record this time out there hunting season starts and when when when the Patriots played up there are. In the game two years ago at 138 to nothing whatever laws and our play and where -- inducement I would no windows hunting -- in the ball is on Saturday in the fall. And that -- a dollar pretty while got a former judge and -- went hunting season I'm telling you. It's like in November. October and about an uneasy and start some I don't want to bring up this that. All it was it was the week at the Patriots played there. And Brett are -- or whoever was -- during the games -- yeah we does that sound Tara -- meeting with the quarterback which usually do but. Out of ticket -- and imagine you know he's spent all Saturday again crops. Box -- tree. And becomes the next day like four passes hurt his elbow. By steel later that's Brett our commitment to the game no longer there to the things you really apt to do to win in that league no longer."

" Never have -- you would never have a quarterback. Constantly going out to dinner going over to Europe with a a supermodel are going to look on it it. As as opposed to as opposed to go to practice do you question at a -- don't know. It. Nickel plate you don't -- a question that. He is commitment to the game the fact that belt that I don't need -- in addition programming. Them now well up on just I I'm I'm I'm obtuse. He got offering -- Robby what I'm sure I'm sure that there are some people who do. I don't just based based on history while it's is that there's a business -- a small thing called track record with Tom Brady's I don't question Brett --"

" Seniors seniors -- wing boards and sitting on one more in Mississippi then working with his teammates and green in the offseason it is. He's the epitome of that quarterback I think he doesn't play in the time on the little things you need. To -- to be successful but he's an upgrade over Pennington still upgrade over Clemens. And it's an entertaining story it's great we -- and that's it it would have been interesting it would have been fun but he went just for the simple reason it is. Like this threat to -- for Tampa. It's not always about -- the ultimate choke to death Gordon and in this case yes if he had gone to Green -- first -- I looked at. When I when I heard about the deals that went to the Jets it was okay to that it did not. Missed 8 because I don't I wanted to see what they were playing a Packers. That's what I'm saying in regards to -- is would have been fine that they would -- played each other twice obviously once. Up in Lambeau Field and that obviously had to have. I gotta think that Green Bay Green Bay was trying to rake. Tampa bay over the coals in the needed more out of Tampa than they -- taken from the Jets that simple fact repeated want to play Brett -- was -- want to deal with that from their own -- something tells me that Thompson that tops in the GM on day one of our other NFC. And have no chance of playing him ever this year I mean. And that. That bothers me I wish I was a little more confidence in the personnel. Personnel evaluation -- most of mine. We're sick it is that the in the war we're sick of the postseason receptions yeah -- regular season games he's not winning in the playoffs anymore. If they felt that way about that player treatment equipment but -- more than that it's the fact that you don't want to -- you don't want to deal. With all the stories you don't want to deal with -- all the -- public exile off the field and Bledsoe in 2002 it was for the -- Now. -- Different story and and I. Way to compare -- is Drew Bledsoe Brett far -- totally different animals. Drew Bledsoe. We obviously saw was not the quarterback of the future this team anymore you just want to Super Bowl and you -- the quarterback of the future and Tom Brady would Brett -- he's an icon. In Green Bay why do you want to see him come back with Minnesota with sample -- Chicago with a wet girls in the -- why would you. If you ruled by emotion and think like a fan I guess you wouldn't. If it is about -- only to its human nature you don't want to have -- you don't want to have like these guys -- the best they have none of that nature and all. Now go tell you -- don't hit it very short memory. Lotta people around here probably around the country but it's still -- games to one of the best in the league and just lost his job because of injury but -- to treatment in the with in the division. I don't feel like I and I was wrong in thinking that yeah he still it's a game in little -- game but he had. For a lesson then. I thought but but felt when you talked about not -- they don't view of the motion we just had this conversation five minutes ago. About how the Patriots and how Belichick have just this gigantic stick up their butts about the New York Jets so there's a motion carries and there. Well but if they felt the player complains he would have no problem if they -- to -- point I think Tom Brady can't play. Or isn't doing what it takes -- can still play at. Off the -- estimation. Felix Tom Brady cannot win at the level that he once won. Had no problem yes sending him to New York Jets and New York Jets -- if they felt about Tom Brady wade needed about two bullets into what you have -- ruled by emotions you have to believe that it that it is the that the Packers believe that yes Brett -- in -- plight but -- is better at this point -- what was then I'm. I'm agree -- probably is better that it may have to believe they would never say this but Brett -- is better. And Aaron Rodgers right now at this stage have to believe that I totally believe it I mean -- put up bigger numbers and Aaron -- he might win more right."

" Games but it is going to be the game in the playoffs where our -- it's overtime maybe the fourth quarter from start and him the ball the other team -- he he's been that -- for a decade. His post season play for a decade. Has not even that mediocre it's been terrible it's in that so eventually. It's a ball right arm that's been their estimation I. Applaud green visited on this years ago. But com the original talking about. -- They did not want him to Minnesota -- WEEI we don't do stuff like that we'll remember what was that not go to Minnesota or Chicago because of the woods. And that's that's garbage way to run your team awful way to run your team awful. -- Rats ass that the funds. -- to -- pulled the cold hard blooded. Football. -- it's two -- obviously they feel he can still play you don't want to trade him. Two to want to your rivals in Minnesota and send them over the top order Tampa. Obviously going to comply and they also which also don't I don't want to be able. You don't want to deal the circuits that you already dealt with in him coming back to Green Bay. At least once I quit while probably next year zero problem that like let the twice a year old can't problem there sending Drew Bledsoe and Buffalo is not elder. -- don't understand how the -- peat accretion that it's not close. Articles on -- to Drew Bledsoe. While that would be okay and that I won the last -- Brett Bartlett -- but nobody want but he won a Super Bowl Brett -- It's an icon or was that I was -- all -- so what that was not -- lifetime ago he was not at the time he got traded he was not an icon in this town anymore he was being shuttled to the back most people yeah there were some nobody could still play and -- but he should play over Tom Brady but at the time more people by Brady guy -- I -- a -- at Thompson and -- against -- the only should make decisions based on that and and we did what is telecheck tickets yet so much made decisions based on what was best for the team. Not here and fans bought or or Bledsoe coming back on -- soul won't look bad the -- And remembered for game 2000 and three. 38 and up and about what the ultimate betrayed your -- I just you. I'm pretty -- look at network would trade to the Jets Marty if at Watson if they feel that Ben Watson comply. With the trade under the New York Jets. He can play he can play it would -- anybody okay but the -- the Green Bay pack it. The fundamental disagreement don't have that are -- down on him but they obviously believe that he can still like they know he can still like it's not a situation where they feel okay. We've got this guy in Tom Brady or or an Aaron -- just one -- Super Bowl was going to be the future of our team I don't know they want to find out if he's the future of the team that's why they're willing to let Brett -- and that's why they didn't want to put -- in the division I -- any -- can -- if you value -- couples. That the Packers believe these values -- in the division lamp twice a year you're you're more like court with and you think. 617779850. Take that as a compliment it is 55 steroid that yes he makes our flip flopped. Block against equipment -- an --"

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