" Good morning everybody. As you already know -- Dennis and Callahan not -- after the trade deadline ho -- nothing going on. Why would you take off the day after the trade deadline -- Of all -- they haven't been on tour did they said you know actually work and if not better but I had to call them up this morning to get him in Callahan and all balances charity bike race it's a message did say there's something going on there with them but. You know is let's don't excuse you know need deep in the rough. At and it's. I say putt and the Rutgers that it is Joe Hagerty on the side and all joining me. Excuse he could tell there's going to be a newsworthy day no way non. And all sell all the high an emotional. Team that spent on the subject not have to pay off day. -- is burnt out I mean that would also have been talking about lately except from enacting pages lately Manny burn out lately. Ortiz but the last three years dealing. On its seat Ronny Manny number dogged him. Running that world -- seven all the relation -- that the group Gerdes exactly is that is that when you're not Doug and Gary downs and in about out of retirement there. -- I don't -- lately it is -- all of it actually that is the universally applauded that is a plurality opinion. Really. Everybody in the entire Red Sox Nation say right now is this thing good riddance to man I would say. 85 to 215. Outlook. The Red Sox felt they had to get out of them so they got -- that part you say they accomplish what they wanted. It's not a great story. Horrible story sucked this don't want this Sox White Sox didn't get better. They didn't they didn't improve their team by making that -- worse today than they -- yesterday I agree because they had to appease one. A whole I want you all say yeah handedly bring in the -- yeah that's debatable. But and I don't think you were -- Mike if you were in that clubhouse the other night after that last last it's Angels you would I think think differently had never seen the club mostly that before -- the shelling yesterday. Street all while that's a good against any dope slap Schilling wants. Maybe you know about who didn't many reportedly -- not -- they you know physical the -- according to sources is that right out that I've I've heard word of that before my father that there might have been a fracas involving Manny and Schilling at one point that. Perhaps David Ortiz might have had to -- between."
" Obvious Schilling has the hair crosses asked for Manny and and most people do most people should they got bad guys are. This whole story is well but the story sucks the team had to make themselves wars they get a jump through hoops had to make themselves worse in the middle order. -- argued that they had to do justice -- they had to give up. Did give to young players who we may not law. But could develop into something they had is that millions of dollars to a big market team on the west coast just to rid themselves of one. A hole where are. If the if Manny just showed up. Played well the year was under normal jerk not over the top -- was just his normal jerking us. -- your mind to win another world championship. But he couldn't keep it together just to be his normal Turkey has yet to be a boat jerk and the team that'd jump through all these hoops just deal or first."
" Yeah it's Turbo object to that interest things like robo generic what does that that's a bad story -- optimists saying the story -- this is what we live more. Live from the stores and he's a -- moment. Tokyo us in the media -- goods -- of course they do they do is up every is dead and gone is not don't like it did last night that's what Manny I was it's everywhere as well I was at the park the whole episode Sox I was at the park -- as the park."
" All day yesterday. And just waiting around for word to come down in and -- you know I was upstairs in the press box the win a lot of people there just -- coming in coming through. There I'd say like. -- Was different than it's been in the past in the Manny being Manny antics of the past this year. Because he wanted to get out of this deal that he's in because you want to get rid of these options because he thinks he's got one more big contract left in them. He knew if he didn't get at this offseason might not get it. He was doing different things this year to try to really upset a lot of different people and rock the boat. Any if any did it he won he got what he wanted he got jettisoned out of here he's going to be a free agent now because the adoption years ago on he's gonna decline arbitration. And he's going to get exactly what one."
" Okay. -- portal get too little -- what did tipper was worse probably sell out that make it on and a ball which I heard Peter Gammons say over and over last night. I think it's debatable whether going sport it would have been an untenable last week. How would have been next week we don't know. And of course doubled over 3456. Years with the two World Series rings -- so what -- understand what is survived I don't regret I have evolved on the river coverage covering a world championship parades. That's talent and a."
" leaves for you feel -- it doesn't become untenable I think meter and founder until his teammates decide we he needs ago because we we don't have any faith. That he's going to be reliable over the last couple months of the season and going to give us the Manny Ramirez that they've had in the past. What when that starts to happen when there's questions there went went teammates don't have the faith. In him as a player that they -- in the past and don't think they're going to be -- line -- to to help me get back the post season he's just kind of doing his own thing but that's us becomes untenable."
" Was last week the the history of many -- what does that ever happened to them mister -- there's is to have these episodes these months and not practicing in one single isolated episodes there's. Multiple long periods -- he's just waving jerk all right you talked about economic who wanted to go on the DL with soreness. -- in a pennant race on the floor was talking about shut it down until you know sitting down it's not not -- out before -- history -- many owners management statement the dark storm clouds coming and in rains. -- As clouds move out. He hits in August and September and you win that's his dramatic America at every year but it's been enough for you -- look at that truck repair record and say. Well you put that history next to his contract situation meaning he's got quite a while to get that multiyear deal he wants and I think there's enough there to -- Oh -- what does stuck it out you put up now I think this is a bad move. I think it's a close call this slam -- it would make it to be in my opinion I won't close call at its not a great story it's not. You don't when departure of the rumor it's okay Manny gone somewhere -- Jason Bay back all right it's a little bit is that. I can deal that year yet the two young players all. And you happy about Hansen. And Brandon Watson we all like bemoaning the loss of great and it's all you have to get data just automatic that sort of states well okay well at least you say to yourself after the Dodgers. You don't got to pick up his body because lord knows Dodgers got more than enough money that we are all. Money. You did you all that just to appease one jackass. That a little too much."
" Like that tells you how badly they want them that it did they did all that tells you how much of a problem probably was. I don't think I didn't I certainly don't view this as a slam dunk I don't think most people view it as a slam dunk. I think most people see it as. They made the best possible deal they could to salvage something and replace that bat in the middle -- or or try to get somebody close. In order to can continue to compete I don't think anybody looks at that says. If it's of the way of the world is a vacuum and you can do whatever you want and you don't the -- about Manny you know quitting on you they're going to trade a male American Jason -- straight up and away they're not going to do it out as those guys and that's -- Brandon Moss would never start for this team. Craig Hansen I don't think he needed to go somewhere else now that you're never going to succeed here so they get -- they traded away two players that probably were never going to run the front you have the next three years you want to stack up Jason Bay gets many -- going to be similar -- going to be -- yeah I would agree if."
" Not that averages and it's Manny -- place in dodger stadium. You know you're right you've got a case that he hit big with the Philadelphia easel and box in the National League and we got a different story but the point the -- Macon is the -- he's trending down at 73839. -- 29 right now he's entering what should be a prime years past I think -- I'm saying. Many this year all right. The question. I just cut the question I just. Talk a little world of 6 I am not going to talk about. Ourselves well fuller. I question. There."
" All Manny wanted right all anyone was to note the option was not going to be picked up when he was going to be a free agent after the season. -- the Red Sox just privately quietly tell him that. And don't got to give up the two young players that you don't got to worry about all other rap. You just let them play all year you get to two sandwich picks at the end of the year which they love you get the 21 rounder is. And everybody wins what are pages go to Manny. -- Boris and say your guy is settled down we won't pick up the option you'll have a chance to take picnic and a free agency. You stay on the team because the whole thing to me about defending Manny many indefensible. I defend the idea of Manny in this line up on this team in August September October because I've seen cork. That's what I'm defending Tuesday in what -- not go to work."
" He's as you put it -- the enemy earlier he's robotic yeah he's what Theo wants lockstep and Theo Epstein is the loss of legacy that team -- very good point. You see that pick in the next five years a team of BO quote minions on the yes it is it's going to be molded his image of."
" I still think I still have a chance to win on me -- it -- about -- that sounds to me like a victim they're going to finish behind ball the odd thing that. I think their best chance that at their best the best chance to win at all is to have Manny in the lineup by David Ortiz in that four -- That's their best chance to win a World Series and they just traded away because they got sick at my contention is I'll take Kevin Youkilis in the world and a lot. My contention as the storm clouds have come before these storm clouds were -- others I agree -- where where he was ours but in the past. They usually cleared he usually produced when it's counted aunt is actually with that contract hangovers that I think it's that decent bat that would happen again."
" back to your point that you made about widened the Red Sox just on the behave a little bit and we won't you know go for the option and you know let bygones be bygones and we separate. Maybe it would have done that Mike if he if if all this stuff didn't happen one after another he just didn't. Scream louder and louder and louder is that the trading deadline approached and basically just showed them that he didn't want to be here and."
" Year old was always acted up in the past and that got over to give the pacifier or the lollipop and the -- and they went on an aunt that had a good second capital of prominent and and what did you elected if you got it right so this be the eight year old. I really went all deepened -- super super tantrum and Michael bend over backwards and they did you have to coaching and it blues prior doesn't map you is that it at that point oh."
" Isn't there a point where a guy a player on a professional team dare you to do something and just continues to do stuff like that in which is alleged off of the edge in the finally goes over you say you know what. There needs to be consequences frolic for a runnin' down the first base and those factors here's a Ross style I think John Henry as a consequence driving for saying the Red Sox don't deserve everything that he's done over the last two or three weeks and you think that's up -- Did you have Nadia generated -- it's just gave -- every single thing you want and this is David Adams does saving my at a certain point the Red Sox have to say enough is enough and stand up for themselves and make statements and you know what did you for the rest of the players on the team because it might -- when it gets untenable as the word you used is because is when and his teammates say enough is enough we can't rely on this -- he -- ago. And there are a lot of indications this and that's exactly what came out of as."
" Gordon is reported today management at ticketed -- pull the club's veteran leaders what I was hearing was that Francona was in danger of losing in the clubhouse if Ramirez was allowed to continue in the same that's a problem if that happens you need to cut out the wound and you need to move on in and get rid of -- to cutter and it's a big. That dark storm -- is what it is. I'm not saying it's guaranteed it's rest it and it would have been a rest to keep -- But it's a rest a lot of golf this rests on both sides yards courts. That's sold sold on that Bristol let him go did you get a if not you'd gotten -- in return I would have been less optimistic. The Jason Bay signed through next year at seven and a half million. He's six years younger he's trending upwards is comparable or in baseball prospectus -- Dwight Evans -- Derrek Lee well here's here's a guy like like Jason day. I get the sense that we don't know. But I get the sense he's sort of a post steroid era guys if you look at -- buy -- hall lanky guy right. -- Very similar to managed want to unity and I got -- say you were pointing to Manning's numbers are any under 250 meter that I'd get my average was terrible now aren't. Afterward -- buzz buzz is hope yes is strong number that's only Q can you agree Mike."
" If a player like Manny decided he wanted to make his own statement. That he he didn't want to come back at the end of at the end of the year in the Red Sox it kept him when what are your your best players in the world once the show that he can still -- up the numbers yet at key times submarine are tired sub -- the team just. On the way to getting to the playoffs that he can do -- if you want to pick moments over the last couple months of the season to put up the numbers yet at the same time -- key moments to either -- somethin' out and not hustle or give up and an at bat or do whatever it's attended today's submarine team's chances again in the post season and make that statement to the ownership and the management that he wanted to make he could do it and I think there was way too much concern out there. From a lot of people that organization that Manny was capable of doing something like that and really submarine in the season."
" Maybe it's the putback and football mentality. -- and what you ask yourself in trouble on this you know. Time of trouble is able would build what the heck am I doing here a few and they will include build there what would Belichick though is that that would Belichick do and what Belgium -- I've seen it. I think he's done I would say what would -- jet magazines to laugh at not. Jags would do the last national play as well look what what what would you to Philip would do it tonight US that is kind of -- the last integrity football coach would do meter. Is given to a player who -- shoes wear it out he would -- just on what offseason sent a blast that altered the last I've ever heard a player give a coach or manager Albert. Bill -- to -- lie to the spam. It's let's outline that -- why that these children I never heard anything like that player. And what when he said Allen all got their most I see you later tied nice knowing -- but also it. -- Whatever name you want golfers -- actually want. You're under contract -- starts July 28 you don't like it it's 3000 bucks today steal it I -- better team with the Cubs acted up you can act like forty year old pitcher -- in Europe or your being fine."
" What about a guy that starts purposely missing blocks are blown assignment because he's trying to make a statement of the team what would would Belichick put up with that say you know what we're just going to keep throwing him out there and watch that what I."
" You know what. Being the biggest annual I've ever seen and what you do with me to sign a multi million dollar contract. With the Miami. Last thing -- it's what the Red Sox did in any game that I just don't but it you to maybe it's. I know contract development negotiations. Right now contracts are guaranteed in football I -- I understood your analogy while Giles sub statement. Hollywood -- the pick on that million dollars dollar that's. We really showed -- a Zanardi was going to win you know at a certain point."
" Though I think they worried about less about the statement that they're making a Manny in the message they're saying the Manny and they're just worried about surviving this year -- next year and staying afloat and getting into the post season is here and doing damage control. And figuring out the situation we can't deal with and we need just jettison Manny I think that's."
" It happened it was less about the message the rest of the guys in the club must I think the rest the guys in the clubhouse didn't want him around anymore -- majority of them. And it was more about bring somebody and they knew they can -- and I think that's a couple months -- and I think there's times in the past that felt the same -- and Kevin Millar went -- the batting -- in Philadelphia game -- next thing you know man he's brushing -- point T shirt that says that's Manny being -- in the -- and they -- a world championship -- and it was -- it was never like this there was never contract sitting in in the balance that he wanted to go after and money this on the table that he -- there again. All I ever liked all you want it was the options removed. Quietly they go to him and they Manny went to pick up the optioned pitcher ass out there to me. The odds of that working out and you'll what you'll champ chip and that's an aerial -- greater than they are with his Jayson bass -- I'm not -- that they -- went with Jason Bay they probably can't if they pitch well it's. But like but what did you a better chance honest nobody. Still they finally caved why did you have to -- he just acted like a jerk again he's done it before. That stormed -- the past before."
" I just thought that there are mentally drained a -- on the club -- beat -- you you walk through those hall that was the first thing I said the fellow was you weren't there the other night after that -- game like I would that's always there -- in the -- exhaust -- the worst games ever -- it just looked beaten looked tired looked like they were sick of everything that was swirling around them and I think at a certain point there was a collective throwing -- the hands from the entire team like we just can't deal with this anymore Mike there comes a point. Along the way of of eight years of dealing with this we're at a certain point there's just too much you say you know it's like a divorce when you say you know what I can't stay in this relationship anymore. You know we need to call it quits because it's is damaging everybody I damage -- Red Sox handled walk away and I think. That point came the other night after that Angels game I think it was just a total Manny burn out."
" You love this trade that's the question I don't know how you can answer yes you can it had to be done. You can say all right it was a close call but this is this direction they decided they had to -- you can give -- that you -- this story of one of the straight. A lot with the Red Sox are worse. Your thoughts of the store it's one of the doesn't finish try to Red Sox sisters now that's a huge story I just I just I think a lot of people that there are -- of the street because they don't meetings adored roster on tees up. You thought about it today -- like and we didn't mention is not only did they maybe get a little bit worse by bringing day at least it's a lateral move if not getting a little worse they couldn't get -- help in the bullpen that there were talking about getting I don't react and I -- and -- home with the young catcher. -- left -- reliever that there was a plethora of them out about trading Manny I felt right attempt at one of those two adult basic and improve themselves that they do that somehow different area a young catcher for the system. Or a veteran Robert that's what you might feel that in order to have seen that and they did not do this and that all they're not my deal know they would have dealt Brandon Myers for lefty on the right or Daniel Bard. For a little Ohman down in Atlanta they would -- made it different and ordered to shoot the trees in the American League DelHomme that's not what -- knee buckling Will -- that's exactly an idea either but this team heads out there. Great trade a year. What nominal offs between sabathia and Harden and Teixeira and marte and I Rodriguez -- he's an all on my investment with pudge Rodriguez law that nationally Castro gets an a plus plus long. Pudge Rodriguez and I wouldn't work here."
" I didn't look like guy might he might next you even look like -- Pettit we're on the same page last night though against the Angels and watch a little ugly that Angels team -- and it is not for any reason clear cut favorite there. Clear -- favorite I can't see. The way the teams -- constitute right now I cutesy team beating them in in the playoffs of their playing anywhere remotely up to their I don't really have a weakness not that well not anymore not to getting to share in lake in Atlanta -- Garrity and it's and hitting sixth or seventh in that lineup I mean that's."
" That's formidable -- is going to happen -- watch the highlights and you see pudge in the ninth inning eighth inning he gaming it's on the start just what he does or in my mind's -- that's like the only that's what used to do he's not the same offensive player that he's like a single to stick -- with like four home -- now it's not the -- but that's the steroid question but I just he's a lot smaller than -- used to be I think he stuck -- team like I think that's human growth -- I think. -- I just think he's timely but -- a different guy Jason Bay I feel. The ball that category and physical to estimate -- all stirring being you know I think. All these numbers are going to go down and Jason Bay at thirty and hundreds can be considered. If you put up those numbers. A top -- Pollard I think that's where the numbers are headed anyway advocates are a little bit about the pressure that's going to going to be heaped upon him to coming into sort of replacement even though they say it's not in the not going to put him in the cleanup spot is that worried about. Those kind of comparisons in those you know those kind of responsibilities foisted on him but there's going to be a lot of people watching him to see exactly what they're getting emplacement -- that story as well your thoughts simple question do you love this move."
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