" Trade deadline day is so much fun. I mean you know I I think that for instance trade deadline day in the NFL as a joke nothing ever happens it's like nobody ever. Gets traded. Give Major League Baseball credit man trade deadline day in Major League Baseball the other sport or trade deadline day is is a fun time if you're a hockey fan as the NHL. Because stuff happens there's going to be stuff happening today. And some of that stuff that's happening may well involve your Boston Red Sox and their enigmatic left fielder Manny Ramirez. I mean we've already had a big shoe dropped this morning with reports that. Ken Griffey junior has been traded to the Chicago White Sox pending his approval because he has beat --"
" That's the big name is that is not really a big deal at the big name means not a great player anymore. He's -- to the Hall of Fame there's no doubt first ballot. But the White Sox won't become a great team because the attic Ken Griffey junior they've made this trade. Six or seven years ago will be used I think a bigger trade. Happened in the American League -- the last night. And the Yankees just keep make your moves -- mean pudge Rodriguez coming to New York."
" For Kyle Farnsworth. That is the lane that Tibet from the Tigers -- explain that to me from the tigers' perspective. Because I can't. I mean you're gonna have Brandon Inge catch for yeah okay fine pudge Rodriguez has not catcher used to be I understand that. But I'm trying to figure out Kyle Farnsworth. It is an important part of the puzzle. That tiger Tigers and and you know pudge Rodriguez -- just can't figure."
" I don't understand it and Kyle Farnsworth if I'm not mistaken baseball package guys back there. Kyle Farnsworth is a former tiger is did to remember -- and I remember this correctly. Big game James knows a decal farnsworth used to play with Detroit and accused with the traded at some point in his career and the -- tiger but that's beside the point. Right now. You look at this for the Yankees it is absolutely what they need to do you think about it this radio. Remember when Jason Barrett or when not everybody does in 2006. In the Red Sox needed a catcher. They went out and got Javier Lopez. Yeah the other hobby how bad and that's got to move out of Lopez who couldn't play there yet he he couldn't help them. So the Yankees were desperate for a catcher they get putt dropped. So the Yankees about it Rodriguez. They've batted down marte from the Pirates. They've added."
" Again at Xavier Nady from the Pirates that they've made some nice moves give credit. I gotta I gotta preface this I guess by saying I'm not huge Kyle Farnsworth -- But I will at least give credit where credit is due. He's pitched pretty well this year you know and and -- and a pretty good job for them. And and while the Yankees would be stupid not to make this deal. As Brian Cashman pointed out last night that kind of rob Peter to pay Paul here and they have now opened up that eight inning bridge guy. To get to Mariano Rivera has farnsworth that has done a decent job would be a decent job but think about they're hoping marte will be that guy but I'm not -- but think about where they would be without. -- I am saying they have to make the -- but they've opened up another hole here that but not not as big as the hole that exists that the catcher position. Now pudge Rodriguez is nowhere near as good a defensive catcher and game caller is what the Yankees -- that's okay he's better offensively. -- up but it -- when he's better he's forty points better batting average wise. His production numbers have slipped while one and everybody seems to think they know why he's half the -- used to be if you know I'm saying here. His production numbers home runs RBIs have slipped a lot probably one of the reasons -- what was willing to move on."
" But still coming to get a guy like that he's he's didn't tune in in the 290s was 293. He's been pretty hot lately. And and when your desperate. On July 31 the last day. You can really make a deal without somebody without another team messing with you and blocking your moves. And you get a guy. The quality of pudge Rodriguez even -- point of his career I think it's a nice little Mo had to make now. Speaking of have to make a trade they got to make it straight. Let's let's write down the street at Fenway Park they have to make a trade and I just hope they do before 2 o'clock at."
" IA I know I mentioned this with you and Terry yesterday we talked about it a bit last night as well. At the risk of getting worn to it here. I truly believe this team desperately needs. A trade just psychologically. I mean they are a dead ass baseball team right now. They are they are -- okay why would you get more for that statement because I said yesterday I thought there was a psychological benefit to making a deal. And and a and a I'm not even necessarily saying the Manny deal although that's what I think they really need. I mean. I don't know that I can remember since Terry Francona came on board here. An inning is ugly is that sixth inning was last about a game. Well and and they have it was -- it was an ugly game overall I mean mental errors physical errors. Lack of emotional lack of life. And and a lack of life thing we've kind of seen and -- released since the all star break the -- hasn't hasn't been playing very well yeah."
" Well I think it's exacerbated. Because -- we're on the big word thing here in the first segment of the show on the -- that are -- I think you've gotten have come back the real world advocates worsened. I -- by the fact that they're playing. What looks like the best team in baseball right now. The Angels were good and they are in great yet before they acquired. Mark Teixeira. They were very good team and now they have him it's almost like an embarrassment of riches warm and this dollar baseball is intercede because. When they have a going. And a squeeze the other night it worked. They go from first to third very well. They make all the fundamental baseball plays when it's going well for them they look unstoppable. But that's the team that so aggressive. They also run into a lot of outs are probably run into more out any team in baseball right now we're seeing them at their best to probably not this good. But they are. They're just in a groove now in the Red Sox there's no doubt in my mind. Are distracted. By the Manny Ramirez situation it's called now started trickle onto the field. It's is causing a problem on the field clubhouse it's it's easy Newsday. This guy is not popular in the clubhouse Curt Schilling -- about today this morning and it -- telling -- by the way."
" I agree with I don't -- is especially popular in the clubhouse yet great interview this kind of a little island by himself kind of a little country and it was -- human you know Guerrero off there by themselves may yet."
" It's one thing to say he's not popular in the club house -- we can deal with them we can still win we're professionals. But when that unpopularity. In those distractions. Start to affect the team that he has to go there's no doubt in my mind he'll be traded."
" Yet and the question becomes. -- for one. You know most people seem to think this three way involving Florida and Pittsburgh. Is the most likely landing spot. There are still some some hold outs out there. Who who still think that Matt Kemp from the Dodgers it is is the fall back position I might I guess it's a better position. I like it better I like it better than Jason Bay I do yeah just really. Lot per night for for 2008 or report 2000 well I think could be slightly. Less than bay slightly not a lot lasts. And long term I think it would be much."
" No I think it'll be a lot less than 2000 day. And if you just look at if you look at Matt -- production. Versus Jason Bay's production this year I think it there's a significant difference there. Between -- especially when you look at. What the Red Sox value in the Red Sox value guys who can get on base guys -- a lot of pitches."
" OJ bay is a very attracted I'll tell you what did you have -- for better right now if if you have to trade Manny Ramirez I think you do. Jason Bay you've done pretty well for yourself and whatever the other components are assuming that you're not also giving up you know Michael Bolton and and you know Lars Daniel Bard in and you know -- I don't know that's the one part of this that makes me nervous. Is the prospect component. I mean I don't think you can give up Manny and you know two of your top four prospects. To get Jason Bay back that doesn't do what -- But but if it if if the net result here at -- at the end of the day Manny is out of left field for -- and Jason Bay is -- You're okay. But I'm not -- breathing Matt -- is better than Jason -- why just I I think this year he'll be slightly less. He seven years younger than today -- long -- might think camp is going to be very attractive here. You know I I think that the little bit that you give up this year. As opposed to -- an -- to man they're both not going to be as good as -- hall man LeBron has come up with something special here well it's funny because. That you know we we have heard and and I'll give me the lead into this guy. And it is it is not unfair to say yes. Jason day has played in front of a thousand people a night. Basically for his entire career. Hatcheries ever had a real pressure back. You know and and so -- the question became. Well you know how is he going to fare against the elite pitchers in baseball how's he going to -- you know in the midst of a pennant race in Boston Massachusetts. You know when he is going out there and facing. And elite pitcher on the mound is he going to crumble under the pressure. Izzy as Gerry Callahan said this morning going to be better because of the talent of the people around him. So we kind of set LeBron on the case of up anecdotally the job brown brown how how did how did Jason Bay perform against what you would consider to be good pitchers. Now this is obviously anecdotal we kinda. You know pulled some names out and we we sort of let him loose on on who it was going to use or not it's not anecdotal as does the opposite is this is actually. Hardcore -- terms of who you who you selective I mean you know he came up with some names here you know maybe their other names that would make this looked --"
" Ben Sheets thirty wondered at the excuse me third when plate appearances. And 400 average against Ben Sheets got a 400 average. Against Johan Santana only and in private bat so that's two hits. About 31 at bats versus Royals walked 355. 389. Versus Brad Penny this is you know nineteen played -- 47. Plate appearances versus Carlos Zambrano. 359. To five homers sixteen RBIs eight walks. You know you look at the numbers."
" I had a couple guys on -- struggles against Jake Peavy won 67. Brandon Webb both 6716. At bats he's all for four lifetime against Billy Wagner. Randy Johnson he sit in 154. Kills Greg Maddux for 29 and 28 at bats."
" Kills Brad Lidge 403782. Versus Jason Marquis. Chris Carpenter eats him up -- 77 versus Chris Carpenter but overall. You know you look at these numbers. Very good he's -- he's a career to -- one hitter he didn't 282 this season. And against some of the top pitchers in the National League he's done a great job."
" doubt about that the fact that. It -- if you start with the premise that you have to deal Manny Ramirez. You've done pretty well if you end up with Jason -- your left field. You know he's not Manny Ramirez there is nobody you're going to acquire in -- Ramirez deal who is Manny Ramirez you go into it starting with that premise. You've done pretty well of Jason -- the guy you end up with out there active down better -- I thought to be honest with."
" He's tried so hard you know like some guys -- Gallup DO -- so. And it is want to hear Charlie and they kick. Us out there again they want to hear it. That's come out today. Now. David Ortiz. Really shouldn't be in the major leagues. But come out today. Aspect it was bag did during the 2007. Season. Actually 2004. Pitch if I had my my ankle reconstructive work bench and turned on the -- Into that. So Manny Ramirez is trying to get blown up what the year Charlie Wilson last night. And it and Enrique Rojas and get the Pulitzer for sports writers. Because that does get Manny Ramirez to say things that we never heard -- that. So he said let that Alex Cora comic called into question the credibility in Greek hero who cares more credibility. -- and Alex Cora no no into the the quotes where maybe made up. That Manny didn't say. That was chorus promise so so. If you go out news today I talked to Manny you didn't talk to you don't outscored doesn't think he talked -- Yeah I think he was trying too hard to you know take Manny off the hook in this whole thing about."
" Now did the in the hands some of the quotes absolutely that was that was. The whole part that you can't put a price on mental please. -- imagine anything and it like Dan. Maybe Gregg Easterbrook regretted that way. I don't know of any it would would drop like that but I didn't include Marty yet words I think this sentiment is man. He wants out and like Brett Farr of quote and he'd be traded straight up -- far in the Red Sox don't deserve. A player like me is to bat Manny does need to be traded. In -- wish. I wish this had. -- played -- a little differently. Because. There is I'm I'm torn on a -- there's a part of me that just once you'd think it. Or for everything he did. Over the course -- career. Very entertaining. Very maddening. Frustrating player to watch I'm -- frustrating player -- managed. A frustrating player to pay at times I wasn't in that position. But if you look at the production. The production was off the charts one of the best free agent signings in the history. Of the franchise. So go back in 19761976. To 2008. You can't come up with. Two or three free agent signings free agents. Better than Manny Ramirez Pedro was traded remember Curt Schilling was traded here David Ortiz. Is one. But you can't pick him anymore so. Part of me wanted to thank him for providing some great moment some great memories. And the other part says okay your time has come."
" We had a caller earlier this morning on John and Jerry show who brought a great point he said. You know given how great of a hitter Manny Ramirez's. If you think about it only ever had to do was show up and and try. And he'd be a legend forever in this town they'd be building statues of this guy at the end of his career 24 would be hanging up on that right field facade. You know he'd be in the the alumni box waving to people like pudge Fisk was last night there all we had to do. We show up and try. Because he was so great at the two tools that we've talked about that he so good that. Any effort at all on his part or or on well after I don't want any okay I don't know eight as normal as that is all effort on his part. You know day in day out show up go to work do which is supposed to do. You know just beat J. D. Drew in terms of how you approach the game just beat David Ortiz. Just being Mike lol. And he'd be he'd be election for a."
" I think he did try just not all the time you just said day in day out. Day in and day out know most of the time yes. I mean -- despite it hard to believe I don't buy. That a guy -- numbers like there. Can do it purely. On. God given ability you can't do. There is not a player on baseball that."
" Our very hard yes reportedly. On what he wanted to work yet right you know showing up to -- war lift weights or or study video. I'm just talking about effort between the lines when the games -- And that was the part that was lacking at times and that was the part that frustrated somebody people you know refusing to pinch hit. When the team had an injury situation and really needed them you know asking for days off you know checking out those sorts of things just drive people crazy."
" Yeah it's just the the."
" The unwillingness to compete. Which drives it would drive me crazy was drives most people crazy and you can't even Adam and if so. Unfathomable. That people don't believe that's right. That that's where the Manny apologist his bread in this disbelief. I don't know. What a defender Manny because these guys are crazy they're -- one of the greatest hitters they're saying he doesn't want to compete they don't know what they're talking about if we go. Yes we -- who you just don't understand. That this is a different kind of guy I -- Curt Schilling. I'm so glad John and Jerry had a -- this morning. You can say whatever you want about Kurt show. But that. That one thing that makes pro athletes that makes them tick that drive that -- being being four for competition. You can't doubt Curt Schilling on that right he wants to compete. Most of these guys want to compete and so after issue with them. -- issue is not. A you know Manny doesn't talk to the media or Manny comes late to spring training. Or Manny. Has has elapsed. When he thinks a ball as is out of the park and he winds up on birth rate and drive them crazy as much as his guys. Unwillingness to compete on a daily basis because they all do that. They do it so much I don't think about it I'm going to compete all it takes it up they all wanted a market you don't want a make it -- guys but. I want to beat him today. You know what he got me last time I struck out three times against them come back now I'll be back here today I'll give him today. But he doesn't always think that way."
" We we have our little straw poll yesterday and WEEI dot com we we learned that over the somebody in the bucket what. While we learned was that of the 2200 and somewhat people who responded. And they may not represent you know Red Sox Nation as a whole but of the 2200 and -- responded the majority one and I get the feeling and -- I'm treading on thin ice here because I -- Tito Francona. Theo Epstein owner John Henry Larry Lucchino. But I cents. That they won and of course I sense that but about I'm a little hesitant only because I haven't asked that question so it's unfair of -- to stick those words in their mouth. I sense that they want them. I sense that his teammates. Want this thing over with -- And that and that they know he's a transcendent. Offensive talent in Major League Baseball that he will be down as one of the great hitters in the history of the game. And they still. Want to move on because it's just not worth it and."
" the Marlins Red Sox World Series. Game one Josh Beckett on the hill. Batting third should be the designated hitter but they don't have a designated hitter in the National League Manny Ramirez. And Beckett punks it I -- it will you know the first time I do it would you like to see that that would like to see me."
" The drama would be -- back it is it is probably a story it would be it would normally be a story for today but but it's not because of everything else that's going on. Josh Beckett is not Josh Beckett right now I don't know I don't know that there's anything wrong physically I assume terrorism is taken the ball every fifth angle and out there. But he was Rose. First three innings he'd look great guys fell apart and he just fell apart. And Josh Beckett is a guy you know Coco Crisp it's a big two run home run for the bottom of the fifth every two and -- go. Back to within -- run. Ace is go out and say all right. 123 you guys ghosts and I gotta get my offense back out there and Beckett -- want well first guy on four pitches a game over -- and it it's like it was -- on Beckett like the way he performed. You know what happened to want. And like I hate to say it -- I -- think he's pitched into some bad luck in the little one nothing game at Yankee Stadium you've kind of done your job in Allen and you get the loss. The complete chaos out Anaheim -- your -- the the the complete game loss in Anaheim you've done pretty good job so I think -- nine and eight. Is a little bit skewed by still no he hasn't been even close to the pitcher we saw --"
" And talked about that Tuesday they asked him if if he thought something was wrong back and he said no he thought there was some bad luck. Involved there and he said it's not always how you pitch when you pitched. And so pitch again yeah so so a lot of things so we're going inspect it and I mentioned Schilling big game James Schilling we have any of those clips. From earlier. -- me he said film he said some really good stuff I was. On the way in and you know it's a good interview when you don't want to get out the car. -- and I don't want to get out the cards that the car for awhile listen Curt Schilling because he had a lot of good stuff with."
" A lot of times when things are -- all Benny the fact that maybe block I was in the back and not with the rest of the Paris and that the other thing that. It don't work because media wasn't -- in there was this stuff called. It -- you have been there he's moved out into the club office. Now to try and make sure he gets -- most of broadcast and that's but flaunts its just I would actually agree that it affected this team. Been around when it did before and -- six. You know these these -- teammates just makes it hard when you know you're just struggling -- want for fourteen and -- your ass up at the plate every question is about something that. Step wrestling no control over and that it could be. You've taken the field with a guy who does or play with it doesn't want to be there that's disheartening and disappointing."
" Wow."
" Good stuff for a very good stuff."
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