Joel Sherman

" Sherman joined us here on which -- WEEI Joe told John brook and Tom -- along with John meet Perot here in Boston or you today. What -- your I mean we we understood the line of questioning in. I just. You know I can't say that I -- disagree with it but then again I can also see his point of -- in terms of team meetings -- ever able to get. Anything out of him definitively one way or the other."

" Well we that they want they went up that. I've been doing has won five years and I've been having disputes with manages about items like team meetings -- years and what difference is that the yes network now televised that the post game and so now you get to see others hostages may. So you know the Tigers sums up that it's turned up and that they -- might not light. You know in the past you know once -- just sort of result which was the story -- column. So you see it you know you went up -- in these questions but I guarantee. -- the red that it be what the Yankees in the it would mean. Go to Africa and and I think that in meaning that I have to be totally humiliated on the field I think the first question. That and adapted well what happened in the and so you ask what happened in the I we find it funny that they don't want to talk about what happened in meeting because you know like. If I I would love to put what where something knew was that like hey let's play terrible the rest. But you know it's these -- the relationship between me and the people operators up at the stereo and -- years nobody got. He's that adversarial relationship -- the microphone and those -- like -- the -- and they art. They got they are now and so you see some adversarial relationship that in the."

" In this instance those shall do you agree yeah as as a sports fan removing yourself from being. A journalist just for a second it's fascinating to watch how the sausage is made."

" Absolutely you know once I mean and believe me I would you know you get to see televised press conferences between politicians. And the immediate now also in the -- that he used in the so you know when there's exhibit a its interest -- on the other and I do remember I understand what's going on there and quite frankly I. That I'm not equating what we used to asking questions about you know Weapons of Mass Destruction. But I I kind of feel like my whole business. Has gotten to. Two hallowed by power you know like the that power persons says well this the way we're doing it instead of challenging this is where we're doing it. Which which is -- job which used to you know -- the you know the -- to help you with it in with the comfortable. You know we -- Just kind of a party -- go with because we don't want to rock the boat operated in the cases because there's people -- for the yes network someday or something along those lines so. I mean. Yeah IP area is Joe Girardi would just pursue. Who is our telecheck -- we just -- not what any. Anything about anything. And I think four point five million people -- Yankee Stadium this year I think they've yet were network rating that never been higher. I know people are buying or newspapers to meet -- going -- it. I feel like if those people with Al west in. I think one of those questions we've been what's happening in the evening and what's happening behind closed doors what happened -- these Joe Girardi the what is now I think. They're not letting four point five million people in the clubhouse I didn't get elected but somehow I became their representative or one of their representatives try to find out. What happened if that's what's curious for the."

" Here's one interesting thing Jules and I've covered the Patriots and -- and it occurred to museum in the conversation with with Girardi. If you flip it if Joe had flipped it on you would signal what if you had a close to a meeting with your editors. And I ask you in public what you spoke about their our consumers of the post I'm not saying you shouldn't ask him requested where."

" I I I think that often apples and apples while up to compare consumer postal would be curious well I I just think that not nearly as many. Well if if anyone happy what happen in any of my knees with the added the first like -- I'm not that right interest in keeping this secret number. Number two I don't think nearly as many people interest in my meetings with my editors birds that Joe Girardi meetings with. You know the -- you know and we he west you know what rises to news just what -- to be in equate them and if -- apples and apples I think that I'll."

" Well I don't know football ethic that is entertainment and media start to overlap bit I think that."

" Really arguing too I had a meeting last week with my bought the -- really interested in it or you try to make a point."

" Yeah would you guys talk about the we talked about there -- new ways we could find to cover the Yankee red yeah yeah arguably but ultimately it's not like it."

" I like that is speaking of the the yankees' clubhouse. How far everything how is everything in -- in club Bronx today especially with all the -- the seem to -- whirling around. You know page one of the back page of the tabloids concerning mister Rodriguez."

" Yes I think everybody learned that rugby is as the tornados that's when it's in the clubhouse and you know but let let statement about it. Never came along it was going to be two months until something else and believe me when Bedard has gone which -- short shall be soon. You know at Alex gets older he's going to you know he's not going to be with 29 year old women -- that'd do whatever old guy doesn't and end up with -- I would iris -- someone."

" president rumor we can start right now."

" Yet so you know what I mean it like Alex signed the tenure contract which means that the New York Post is in but a lot of front pages for at least and yours so. I just think -- learned that everyone's -- to word to agree to agree that it that it that it always going to be there and think the question becomes. Win it begins the ability what region -- and I have not seen real science to beat yet I don't I think we need to be vigilant about watching -- I don't think Alex is the mentally toughest guy in the on the planet but I haven't seen it yet when -- the it I'll start jumping in on the --"

" Is this the most difficult hurdle for him to face. In terms of off field mentally she's not talk about playoff shortcomings -- like -- but in terms of off field issues that he's dealt with."

" I actually think that he's I would decide what he was miserable as a married man. And I think that he's okay with everybody knowing about his life is well he's not married to be on."

" Joy as a student launching point for lack of reference for the Yankees after being the Red Sox in two games in games they easily could of lost."

" Aside and understand in the --"

" Joe do you think the Yankees won't. Rally around and somehow catapult themselves up to be in the Red Sox in two games they probably could have lost easily."

" Yeah well I don't I I think we've -- but -- want -- point a lot this. When they've had some stirring victories and nothing as you know fired then. And I think it is very very forward to get warm wind street's going win two out of every five days she got up then towel wrapped. And so on to the man out and it's very very part it was going. Wing in you have. You know with many swap out that we didn't see coming because we fought this was going to be and 900 runs while -- and this year -- on -- about seven legend. If you run on it if you that the right again. Let that we anticipated it would have scored if you're to support -- starting rotation. That has been on on our -- it's it's tough to get. Are any kind of eleven out of thirteen seventeen out of 21 going which is clearly what they need to get up to wear these red --"

" Joel Sherman baseball columnist for the New York Post joining us here Dennis and Callahan on WEEI Jolo you know certainly the Sox and Yankees have. Had a knew I guess -- stone in the equation with the Tampa bay rays this season was think. What's the Yankee perspective on how the rays are playing with a not they can. That continue to play this kind of a pace."

" Yeah I think the Yankees are in the razor in the day I think the last hole there holding it is went oh. About that the -- that most of the rays have never gone through this before and somehow the pressure are. Late August and all of the ever get to them in the fall well booklet that. And war this is a lot a high impact it means being put on pitchers who haven't quite at this kind of impact in me. Thrown on them before it would Jackson. -- nine shields that trip and I think they're going to hope that those pictures we're down in August. The number but to me keeps getting back to this is. In 2008 where it seems like did drug culture has reversed and you know when it we're we're the old Warriors you know where it was Ortiz was -- thirty now thirty is that. What you know guys are playing like -- play again I would rather be younger than older and I'd rather have yeah. -- Kane the rays are young and they don't have minor league depth. Do something this spot in next month in the trade and they'll have a bullet to fire probably in what in David Wright with respect in the draft last year. Might come up. Go with that rotation and bring a fresh young arm into the rotation in the -- but it would be a pop for the rotation -- so to me the rays have all the buyer you're -- of people waiting of them were I think that might be --"

" Well rid of the Yankees go to improve their offense -- and pitching where they even in at all on sabathia."

" Yeah well I guess that would improve their crop and state in Steve picked apart without -- been. Derek Jeter and ANC keep it recover something utility. Try to total boards and -- miracle it was Johnny Damon and Hideki Matsui hit up near the opposite the raids. They're all bad being held together by you know. STA and you know prayers that they could be you know rediscovered some reality is. The Yankees have gotten -- out of all the players than anyone in export you know you've seen. Over there. -- adequate yeah. Game at a good if we got -- we -- a good yeah we got hurt but the reality is that they're hurt and I would expect more that was there older and that's how the seasons playing out and they have been cut back everywhere it's not like he could have other going to put a guy. Here I I think they treated -- what it would it and we'd be. Either you know maybe an outfielder people what are we redeem what -- coming back they want the Detroit that are older and -- Cabrera who spoke about. Without the minors. So I I don't know where -- You know go to would move that up then and not that -- yet this about it with a lot like the go in and and we are they what are willing to -- The companies which was players and money because I don't think it wanted to give up the players without keeping about the long term I think when they called Indian they said we. You know windows to sign the guy you'd been want to complicate the trade. But I did right Sunday papers. That I believe they are going to be major major players perhaps the because inaugural ball going up to bat in the offseason when it's only a matter."

" Until has the decline of Derek Jeter begun in earnest."

" I think it had you know -- it. He would mean a player that oh it is on the board I was always a part of the board -- but he with a single that are any -- that would. You know -- he -- was ordinary but. Despite being you know -- as a hitter with an airport on base and it's expensive now out of that situation where. I think it up were stolen bases or yours we'd singles hitter and that's where he would need a couple of -- out sport. He's got older you get older -- reasons he would -- some power at he's sitting on I believe we have what is that many home runs -- you know. You know with the people in New York the killing of being such terrible wire. And so you know there's no power -- and -- and you know that the truth about it -- he its support of the plate and up these and and all the in other people piling on isn't the truth -- it and this year. Has been better than it in the past two years which means that it is written mediocrity it was. Abysmal you know whatever but everybody -- want the game with Derek Jeter. I sort would not at. And guys. I covered in the lead -- in. -- early nineties -- the indictment. And I was one of the few guys would like the emperor has so close on people like I've -- Great players can't say that I and I feel like side easy to use of the with no power. You know with the beginning of the steroid -- were pretty much. Only first baseman who wasn't any with any was this first -- And I -- you know now what do you guys have used as well they're kind of as an ordinary player you know. Killing but he's not be you know but really the telling you know he's going to increase in in productivity and percent every year. And you know the reaction you get is like he -- you'd you'd you'd. Slapped around -- you know the president."

" thought you were kind of gone to a similar parallel here with two players in Jason Varitek and Manny Ramirez and with a not those two guys so to speak of may be seen -- better days."

" Yeah and next pop because as in the case very thick in the -- to -- about players. Who have built up their backs with in -- these with if they can't be beat but did -- championship. Just as Derek Jeter did but I've operate when I watch it's what I keep telling and this. I sort cal Ripken played shortstop. Tested expiration the ball more because cal Ripken. And I sort of kept the in the lineup even as the third baseman at that race indeed to go way up that record in -- the cal Ripken. And in organization -- decisions around and I instead of making decisions that would best -- the organization. And I won't state only beat the Orioles have been terrible but in yours but it's one of the reasons that the scene in -- and yours and I think. Record the nation's. About Derek Jeter over the next yours -- what not but he's not -- like I think -- one is. Contract expires in 2000 and in this too. -- Derek Jeter aren't going. Want to -- in west. And an eleven going forward. Just to deal with situations like well we want to get beat up and -- in form in you know we want to see you know in play his whole career in. All the -- your -- a player it's okay essentially falling one and because we're going for not that instead of going up."

" Right your paper has Barry Bonds and a Mets uniform on the back page bonds guy. Do you see the Mets making Enron and -- there was some internal discussions of the Red Sox organization if David Ortiz can't come back they. What many consider bonds but how do you see this all shaking down."

" Yeah well I I -- thing -- but I think you have a better chance. Bobby India and it it. One and that Barry Bonds and but there's a lot of reasons -- it one of the biggest thing is. -- well ponds or incredibly loyal but usually the best or -- one. Beckham -- is -- that doesn't pay -- lot to which draft picks. Out separates -- but anyway the idea that the what you know would -- hold the line on back when he actually get their team better every -- like to. Of course the Triborough eight miles away the Yankees you know existed nor but it would pay whatever back they want to pay -- draft -- But now they're going to really. Apple in the base with you all star game in New York -- but who put up come -- answer all those questions you decide their I mean. I guess anything's possible but again I think the possibility is better eight Willie Mays will be here for the -- that don't go for the got father that the."

" God is that there's like that -- surrounding the exit need the universally awful firing of Willie Randolph the when he -- that does that come down."

" Yeah I actually think that that now eight. In a benefit around the well I mean. How they Campbell that was never bet that they you know essentially ran it -- on Allen -- to that somebody from their job. But the reality is acquire a completely. You know cut him off they weren't listening in and you look at motivating it's -- and a out. He's mean and would've been given -- and I do mean Jerry manual is a good man I think he has better relationships with the players. You know ruled that translated to -- I don't know. We need to be better stuff out of the net there it seemed that seem. Disinterested too much of the time now they did they played with a little -- for. And a little more concentration over the last you know two with three weeks since Jerry manual the result have only been about a team that's well by hunter but I think. You watch the game. I think you're trending in a better way. The key things is Ryan Church he dealt with more at I mean my interest might not register as to what we haven't seen you like. He's a little bit like what -- you know was when he came in the game India early nineties we like. Obviously at some much better player and I what I want a -- now. He's good on opposite he's good on. Good on the pieces -- these guys in the clubhouse late in the game. And if he can't play in the Torre being the rest way to lose a lot. In the that we as well bat in the lineup you know well who was one of those guys who could pull out of bed in get a hit. January unfortunately it's the ground out of the bed and break his ankle and now. And something out of you -- it over as Orlando Hernandez who all are Hernandez is now re happy in the minor league help Pedro got the win last night but it took over a hundred pitches get outs. It gave with a net when he did and I know Philadelphia -- very strong but. It almost mean now that ego. At what we'd -- in this stuff and the weight of the -- And you know and they get something -- so I think they have questions going forward and I think what you like but we're. Eric team not -- an op and the quarter player to a who will be yet we age. Complimentary kind of guy to help that it is or what Church goes out against the that they don't or completely all the clip with."

" Still got a final four because it seems like you know everything I've been reading out of the majority at least the prevalent feeling I'm left without the majority New York media has that. The Yankees certainly don't consider the race in the American League east. To be over and done with in spite of the rays looking to be stacked in. Certainly with a rivalry between the Sox and the Yankees is they your feeling as well that that the Yankees in particular can still make this a race in the east."

" Yeah I I I love that question though is like I don't know what we actually expect the Yankees to the -- dot. Yeah -- have been you know payrolls are critical about the organization pet but my name so we got. So I think yanks have a tough time and it's because -- that well which is. You know I think changing along with the tipping point that they were -- everything else okay. And that they would have been able to find the formula that works that these. But when you mean move that every five days quality 68 meetings pretty strong certainty of good work pretty good high percentage. We won was what it you know at about. It's after winning percentages here. And I do that your plate it -- it. -- part owner and guys whatever. I I just felt like that would -- but lash or because it was going to be for a lot all the positive streak. One and without running it off you don't get to that and when he came over but it's merely going to -- witness without look at the record in the you know it you know the Dodgers I first place if they you on the spot -- you look at it and it really. In a lot of ways walked in the -- incident with -- all the teams to you know -- Angels. And I think that's where the division and play the AL east is not going to be other division I think you're going to you'll have to win. 9391 night by means we in the division. And I just don't see how this -- get that number. You know going round and round with our -- in the --"

" New York Post baseball columnist Joel Sherman jolt -- thanks for spending little time with -- it's appreciated. Thank you gotta"