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06-26-08 Ian Thomsen, SI Hoops Insider

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Thu, 26 Jun 2008

Ian speaks with Michael and Larry Ridley about the Celtics and how they might be making a deal with their pick.

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" June 26 2007 your question as the Celtics fan was. Do we take Jeff Green. Do we take Joakim Noah DE Beckett trade he grade Paul peers. Immediately and -- June 26 that's right June 26 2008. You're sitting there with the thirtieth pick the last pick of the first round what's going to happen. In this NBA draft we're going to talk to somebody who knows all the answers I'm not out Ian. At last track here. I see mock draft four point oh from you got to five or six yet on your mock drafts."

" I am might have a at the time to tighten up yet an excellent -- be -- beat up here. Hopefully that our."

" Ian Johnson from Sports Illustrated joins us details on here very relieved then you know very dusty can't."

" You have seen Larry around light up a good."

" Audience that they have the -- in Telesis in mock draft five or mock draft six is going to change your pick for the Celtics you have Roy Hibbert."

" He'll be done and Celtics are trying to get the draft trying to you. You know whatever they became the future first something to -- out entirely. Which -- extensive field picnic either can help then why have neckties beyond that happened got people themselves to -- originally so well. Is not something that you -- should try to."

" Well I'm a little surprised by that just because I think gaining just has done such a good job after picked wanting. And I'm I'm -- if you've got 21 round great I don't know he has that any first round grades. On these guys you think. They're going to be some mistakes and you might -- able to get a Chris Douglas Roberts but you don't like the Celtics are looking at it that way."

" Well I mean if there's something you really love there's India. But you're at a much better position if you could move -- in the second round and then you do decide how much what pay him for a long. And you know it's very expensive proposition through Celtics to win the championship because in the luxury tax -- And so which -- that accidentally every though he's -- and could double by the acts. So the idea of taking the time that maybe your social number -- you have to give them he's contract in closed two billion dollars a year. Which turned to a two year Africa were going to play for investment -- chance now. You know why not what -- Tricky trying to win now and worry about getting back kind of players years to."

" In you talk about the Celtics possibly are trying to get out of that they can get out of the of the first round altogether. But you did mention there are some guys you know maybe they can -- if they fall in love with the guy. Who are some of these guys that they are in love with as far as the kids that will be available tonight."

" You know let -- yards with -- and couldn't Lilja and I don't think there is which is why people around the league where were telling me. Yesterday that the Celtics -- one teams with treatment -- it think it would. I don't think there is it -- I -- and another thing to do with it used to pick can take keep your. In the top guy in pac -- after the owners search -- from the -- moved -- 56 yours. Impossible for 56 years and now he's he's point four arsenal team -- Barcelona in Spain. And it agreed to European the -- bureau captain in the -- in history Lola he's seen the top. Nationally but I think it'll be on the and so Dixon bales completely twenty's and -- to -- well there's another -- comment. Bunker complexes center from former Yugoslavia -- the other guy like that these. But he -- twenties -- veterans and their guys are centered. -- Tall skinny guys to -- When it's more so those -- and the three guys you but he can we."

" What would you think -- in. Pat Riley's in game mean is here were shopping and number two pick were not sold on Michael Beasley their character issues. How we might take OJ Mayo he could play point guard. How has worked out with Dwyane Wade what does he look aboard just a little subterfuge or is he really it just immediately what you think."

" Well for us well there's no way shape and -- we have to give them credit the pat Bradley. That's stepped there's no way he's going to pretty but it -- to -- I mean Chicago spent the last two weeks but he internal -- so what to do in the what should be their -- Michael peacefully. They've had serious discussions about Michael -- There's been some strong argument that is the topic should be number one and they weren't talk about go to. So so if OJ -- doesn't enter into the discussions like these we and just really is no way to take it. Toby -- so if he can. And the other thing I think was -- though Miami is. Data base so what did he did with the draft last year and he used the draft to win now. And I think they wanted to encouraged to be among the teams are offers from other teams. For that number 21 people -- look no -- that it exists. You should becoming a -- in the private number two pick we have the most with with you know some basic helpless -- now and so they were trying to encourage that. And it's it seems like they were able to get the value is one in return probably in part because. We really he's deeply oh LeBron James some of these -- be better equipped and Robinson. He's not a LeBron will be that's when we -- which had pitched so. -- in the days there and they're going to end up using the pick on -- we can be very happy."

" We here in all sports now character issues how to check out -- to check out so we keep hearing. About Michael Beasley and the character concern the character concerns and he has. From what you can tell what is the most egregious character concern what is it that scare some people or is that just. A Russa well."

" Well to comic character concerns and it's -- focus totally. We gave it became comes so we've we've had guys so -- we. He can he can basically do whatever it wants on the court and kinda guy when he's when he's had his work out of -- couple months and he just seems to work and play on the street and so. You know it's like. Like -- wouldn't and so while -- at some of these out there to three streak he's. So they're they're concerned I think it is is it when he comes to Miami you know south beach. He can have a -- in the ball. There good playing with my --"

" Today and I don't expect after Gunter it's this is Pat Riley to -- just focus all the -- basketball. And I he."

" Well when he's not -- series is focused. -- I don't know I need to feel like guys with -- replaced answered the but it but here's the thing being pleased not going to be an important guy not to be -- week to. So so I'd I'd integrate situation -- the and I'm just so talented and he stepped that's what they need you know it's some great compliment we need to be able that it. Played outside Wade's driving into the basket or two to coincide with squirrel sweep of the premier. Which handles the ball so much anyway I mean those those can be two very good players. You know we have not heard Pat Riley himself yeah -- all sorts of stuff he's he can back away from -- quickly. And once he starts blatantly give it effort at all on the he's kept a -- to. Statistical list of chemicals."

" and when we look at Michael Beasley of course Lotta people look at his management sent. You don't listed six not a Kansas State but he measured out of what 6667 so. Are there any concerns there are other than the south -- stuff but are being 6667 and and -- he stack up with the other Fords on the on the money you've got out a couple of gov Davis and as well as though the matrix on Marion."

" Well -- I don't excitement can be an issue because this guy is going to be one of the better three point shooters in the and so you'll you'll be able to -- outside and he's been able to score insight into the college defenses I I don't -- size became an issue the week it's getting so small anyway. It's just going to be hard to match up with no matter what if you put your power forward on them they'll go outside to try to explode on. It will -- So I don't think that's can be such problems and then he could rebound well in college I used to. As far as some very and that's I think that should be seen as more about it than oh long term it'll be. He's got he's got the articles -- these tips on. And he's going to be making ridiculous contract long term contract. I just don't -- need to keep investing. So much music that was seen at Phoenix its that all the players tied it. That it didn't think ultimately because when championship which. -- it was disrupting block points in reality the -- extreme move trading Shaquille O'Neal. That's now that's about -- within the next which on the so by. With his expiring deal in the final year there expensive deal. They -- a trade in the center but as we get closer to February I think that might be quite attractive incidents beautiful tree. You know he traded to a team that that they be trying to make playoff run down the stretch and then he let his contract expired to cap reasons people. I entity because we did they turn four that the --"

" and Shawn Marion being a distraction in -- locker room coming up. Steve car with a freestyle rap on shop area -- there might happen number but seriously in in every draft there's a surprise. Early some guy jumps into the lottery no one expects them expects to -- like Jason Williams and every event every year there's a slider. Like Paul Pierce and number ten this year who's who's the surprise is it is Jason Johnson kid from rider and who's the slider."

" was supposed to be it second round pick and -- was talking about it and the number fourteen. And you know what when I American element to muster an hour and can take I think it's it's smoke -- Why would they announced that they want so badly I I think there. Obstacle -- but -- street -- shooters but we beat net. Maybe people will be rebounding because you really I think it's quite as Russell Westbrook -- sophomore point guard although we didn't play point. We've got to be a point guard India. Muddling this thinking and -- feel pretty good about these chemical war two forward to Seattle which is just huge time."

" you have Lopez corner before right Brooklyn as."

" Yes the I think it's very close and so could be -- has -- I think Westbrook is because I that there edgy towards. But they're also talked about taking number four -- commuting back a little bit. Fourteen to want to move up into the record so whether that -- you're more work its."

" In secondary. I'm -- real quickly second round any value there as far as depth like you got the D. J. White for the Celtics -- like that maybe the Jamont Gordon. What are use in the second round of the Celtics don't do anything in the first."

" There are a lot of guys here and to be -- with yet at my hands full trying to -- the first round probably I don't think the Q let me. And it's it worked out sort of I've grown up man. We first round but he can -- engagement and so particular because it will go for the Celtics there's. But every year there are -- there's very good value especially on the upper -- In effect on the guys -- just he has -- to gamble on in the first round. For sure there were there will be some interest -- experience Celtics have always been very well. Billy wherever they picked the last few years they've they've had real nice -- and I would expect in -- in the -- and so."

" Now my logic here might be flawed feel free to corrected -- sometimes but. I'm I'm putting two -- two together here are your sources whom I trust tell you. That they're looking to get out of the draft so articulate and I get out of the draft we know. They have some potential free agents James Posey Tony Allen Eddie House. Maybe if they're not going to get out of the draft maybe things are looking up in terms of their potential free agents it is is that good news on the James Posey front because I would think. They're going to lose some of these guys they're looking for draft pick to be a number seven or -- guy in the rotation."

" lot about it showed yet they showed -- they they won with and I. And I'm sure they're going to try to two try to develop some younger guys -- complete the -- now. As a -- cost -- point guard. You know that they'll they'll want to start develop -- younger guys maybe to wasted no. But ultimately there in the win though. Position and as much as they close to what they did this under the just as much two when you again next year and that's with a -- attitude spent all this money. Do it. And and so first of all -- I just don't see that they can afford to. The table James Posey to go somewhere else to than to be to expose the -- is so valuable. And so many different ways and it would be huge morale -- for the whole team. -- wasn't there for the restart this team they would know exactly -- And it would really hurt everybody's I think it's words trying to win -- championship. So it James Posey is being offered full mid level partly because I think I'll have to match information that the discomfort that we've been. They've been very smart in the way -- This whole this whole production is going to be to -- in the I don't expect to stoop ball exposed him."

" Well -- thanks for the information and good luck with a mock draft five point oh will be looking forward is that going to posted in about an hour 130."

" and I cannot wait until over the Cubs lose the facility just time. Here and we're wasting all the talk about most -- guys inactive the good and these players I don't most of the."

" So at least seven area my that's my theory 77 good players and every draft. That I always taken one through seven but."

" For sure that's another thing a team. I spent I spent a lot of time talking to people who really don't know. And there's there's you always look back -- your waiter and you know -- great draft class what ten years ago the first MVP. Number nine pick I think Dirk Nowitzki in the first champions went into overtime to alters. All of these guys were picked as a."

" Tractor trailer and the trio it varies who lose their record -- and -- yeah. It was a great draft Jason Williams."

" There's that the broccoli yeah yeah yeah Jason Williams is is that Dickens. The wild card that allowed Paul Pierce to slip all the way down there and then Larry I guess Larry Brown taken Larry Hughes enough Paul Pierce out to."

" Yeah no no so you know this is how it is that draft was -- that I was number nine -- So that's that's how it's gonna be the shoot to mature."

" RD and thanks a lot -- look at him Thompson from Sports Illustrated the great job. He's going to post yet another mock draft"

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