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Wed, 9 Apr 2008

Author Pat Jordan joins Gerry and Faxon to chat about his Canseco story on Deadspin, as well as his new book

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" I or back it's our number three Dennis and Callahan showed Dennis is not here brad Faxon is here Jon Meterparel is here and joining us. On the phone line now as a guy we've been looking forward to -- to ever since week. Read his piece on Jose Canseco and laughed ourselves silly. The other day pat Jordan it's not the only thing he's ever done is chase Canseco around the country's written thirteen books. In the whole bunch of highly regarded magazine pieces you've been doing this for forty years written about OJ Simpson Roger Clemens Sylvester Stallone and I'm guessing. He's never run into someone quite like Jose Canseco would that be accurate."

" I would be accurate road -- who like -- pursuing some love -- rested Russell virtue. Promptly went away and hiding behind a -- I've I've had three important between January and it bullet through appointment to go out to California and cancel -- the last minute. Parity to -- what after another and Clemson went out and that he never showed up."

" So pack you're never face to face with -- Jose. What which we which made which made the story even more in riveting to me I. The whole pursuit goal you know Moby Dick thing was was ruined but I guess my question pat. Why did you write this piece because it appeared on did spin. We have links to everyone's read and everyone's enjoying it but did you get paid for a."

" No I didn't editor of the deal were not a partial -- I was I'm a -- start right if -- historical -- part of the right. I wrote it then but I realized that it couldn't be published in the monthly -- is being. Because it was a it was too late -- we're sort finish historian. All of Mark should not be published one who woke ago. So -- couple of what might be different to New Yorker David remnick let's start to Sports Illustrated made both. And panic that -- my best friend editor of my book look the sport's -- Jordan. He can -- our belt and he's -- online got. That I am 100 -- also used to use a typewriter critical. Recent published Uruguay sources but from -- it's not a very not a target Celtic are replicates -- that the envelope that's -- his. So Bowman I'm -- guru -- and you call a lot of sort of appealed --"

" What you had a chance and I don't know how this all -- pulled the -- a chance to. Write the book comedian that the book that Canseco is now. Promote indicated which you know if I mean I'm almost done with -- in it amid the point earlier that this book is one of the worst books have ever read it's so bad it's almost good it's so bad you can't believe what's your reading."

" They called me up pressure the right separate certainly thoughtful words in ten days -- I told electric -- to go forward and -- Davis that a lot of tight there's. And this is so woes are so what does -- got to first to the side -- for both recorder. At least -- lot of over the all this about all the attribute 1000. Could bottle and so so."

" So somebody else. Guy the guy who did the OJ Simpson book the all -- didn't -- guy who writes for a national enquirer. Took up the task in actually cracked this thing out in ten days."

" Days revenue also worked."

" He's a diplomat along the right this piece of --"

" I don't know ever read it well he called me email me curious Pablo enjoy those. You've built -- good or disrespect to them -- only mention in the national enquirer. And OJ Simpson when he he's had sixteen other movie scripts city's written not which -- important he wanted -- to -- all his credit bureau of a -- distort what about him. They're ridiculous so it was a nightmare deal -- people that it's really close they've lawyer is girlfriend."

" The girl the girl Clinton's. Is just priceless and I don't live in the -- that it is it I'd seen the book but I Deborah not to read you read her book. And -- point you make the point that it is genuinely funny and it's better than -- his book."

" True problem the fact that she was a failed order -- they'll included us but -- want to put the little yellow orange customize your success right."

" Pat he supposedly right dollars old movie scripts this like it would be a good movie in itself you you go and interview room."

" It's -- you know very -- sort of like or those questions. Question movies to -- turn for the holy grilled -- that."

" I got a big kick out of the part about. Jose offering -- Magglio Ordonez five million dollars to keep his name out of the book -- he did confirm that I and we always thought I was not I believe that but I thought it was a rumor did you confirm that."

" Autos and offer slugger predict from New York Times -- been in your terms. So that other historic I would. I don't know I notified head anyway it's above I should've I should've told Jose if you also loaned me good to me five million dollar that would right prepared that."

" think Jose Soto has been what you know you know did the research you know. He doesn't have two nickels to rub together and my favorite my favorite story at all piece he wrote his. The truck he traded his two point six million dollar mansion or what essentially turned out to be. 15000 dollars worth the Mexican telephones yet to -- at a good stock tips like --"

" It is going to be like build build dykstra who could be -- start Peru and are you going to write a column for. --"

" Oh there was -- sports he's taken money helps it even possible that free your host for fifteen."

" a very much Herbert storybook the lawyer was trying to keep them. Campaign that's huge settlement to those guys could be up to the Miami Bart. This is told by an opinion goes by 300000 dollar Rolls Royce is about two point six Mandela also week before the trial."

" I I know them. I know kick in all the details but I also liked the schedule that Jose and -- keep."

" I -- Can although speaking and except that they were your glove."

" the only Jose -- that is where is the goal Monica's he has iguanas. Wondering around the grounds -- much."

" Would you wrote that we want to sing that's relevant for a lot of those those are usually we have we have a blow to what. So Cora look like look like because something those dinosaurs local folks. Those few movies from distribution -- they would put up -- of the McLaughlin Rick we've lose a dinosaur we have them -- so that -- unusual but the cougars have no warranties or wildcats who have wandered. Back develop which you know in NASCAR --"

" It -- you are you convinced that the Alex Rodriguez accusation is as flimsy as it is was part of the deal that they would give in this advance for the -- book or this contract for his book if you would including --"

" Well it'll let me ask questions well why else would do what else is that -- Magglio Ordonez is a real good ball player but is not exactly also -- the country. But I Roger Clemens he says did -- steroids. If so what why would you buy the book. For your throat and A rod -- story quoted Rhoden all of his life. Well cobalt pitchers you'd think that happened. With -- about Iraq became begin calling myself -- that's been respectable I want not. You know you go over about -- Era and one. I began calling up to historic -- might also domestic dispute tomorrow."

" is very excited about what had sued. Goddess but -- bigger and better slowly in the morning he's had a couple bad -- so well."

" Right -- but why why I don't understand why some magazine -- paid big money for this because it is so entertaining. Why why just stop who cares what the New Yorker -- you know call him every sports mag or lightly you know you men's journal one of those."

" The Dutch are built monthly figure rhetoric proportion albeit time that I go to -- journal and the magazines wouldn't run it looks like talked to -- I said this is funnier story without talking wrote very. But they'll all probably is what I mean what you employ -- who are right for regularly they're into they're -- Julie should so."

" Who cares if it's not coincide with the -- the -- read the book and you. -- for a cup in twelve boxes going day with these that's. I want to read her book juicy salary things. Jessica's book that you actually talked to Jose once right."

" You know I talked a lot he's good -- you but it is -- by the lawyers who I think is very shrugged. It's almost. Of course set up to bring most of about suddenly muted too aren't they get up there council pulled you through Clark that it took 7 -- might cancel. Well sort of panic lawyer but like calls me up -- your hotel room and LA's tradition is bold policy which currently. A I'd four thought about it credit card bills from the emperor escort service you know. We ago. Then -- be more useful -- and never show. -- Oh first and forty years it is reputed to -- person shall."

" First time in forty years. We have got a -- we had a big day at Fenway opening day for the you know the Red Sox the World Series champions and they had. The flags of dinners all girls' teams and then bill Buckner comes walking out of the green monster in the place -- drops."

" Went under the -- Marlins -- the guy. I don't know institute are supposed to do Josh Beckett for a New York Times magazine but he he wouldn't do it."

" He wouldn't call you back either the ease you."

" No he was determined. But he just sit Beltran without interest to do on this story."

" Is as somebody and explained that they suggest Beckett on a bad guy he just has zero interest in that part of the job the whole you know publicizing sharing themselves series life."

" Note something that's that doesn't into the smartest move that -- sort of movie could do let."

" Keep strike and he told E went to spring training and told the I think the PR guys that. I'm going to do three in the -- you pick them in the next month and you pick them so apparently you weren't one of them."

" More horrible Gloria did you know regardless what you. Or go to deuces for example if you are -- before they're open space set something off the awful -- province. There will be nothing but lose him in Boston. Fans are gonna get furious what and pick up the game and it got within probably contend fifty million dollars a year 'cause I wouldn't be talking -- right now."

" That hurts the I know our side literature trillion but I would be off someplace you couldn't -- league would radar."

" You you. There's a lot of comments that that -- lawyer and friend has got a -- made to you that sound like they that he thought they were off the record."

" And he knew that instead it has got to tape recorder in his space."

" When he says it will than he's he's not very bright but that's no surprise because he works -- Jose was no money and -- in World Series rings. Next or Mexican stock but when when the the story came out I assume rob is is either suing your threatening -- music."

" Enlarged into all our he was -- well there's there's little moderate about rebel boats so all of that he called report that the two days ago. At street go to the book tour quote very. And interpret those are all around the -- back closer for the."

" No idea pirate guy you don't pay anyway that's."

" I know or reporters place for the guy pays you."

" Oh same table was -- 48 million or some as a player and his lawyer tells you he's one step from homeless."

" The lyrics are -- out bruised liver and well look look like Shaq. It was not used coral -- couldn't be able mentioned would feel war rock or former cougars mobile wearing what kind of cars drive and a -- progression it was a -- Nerve fibers --"

" The -- ego cannot think in that Kong's fu movie is going to get maimed you."

" Well I don't think you know -- I think Buhner rob who. We're -- and the big gobbled it up."

" I was tied. Vietnamese -- idea this the -- congress say the conversations you have with idea just precious."

" He's got misquoted or the I don't know what. I don't know I could misquoted you just said the same thing every Carmichael -- hero and a book and threatened screenplay or -- pretty movie but it's like."

" He's writing a movie she says and you say do you mean a screen play. She says no moving."

" I guess certain different."

" Where did I think it's sad I guess I don't care I've no sympathy -- He strikes me that the -- 44. And he's made millions and he can't figure out and he's lost the mall but he can't figure out. How is going to make millions again how how we can ever make money again because he's lazy doesn't want to work. He's stupid he can't be in the media or me he doesn't know how we can get that that life back."

" This is it's all this is the last shot. A bloody well throughout the and at that position he goes there -- one of those guys in a tuxedo with a -- one of those gentlemen clubs does that prevent so well that it agreed everybody at the door. I'm real ball players near the goal we work. In the forties and fifties -- officials reviewed the biggest sort of bump."

" league Willie Mays and me but. But he's doesn't sound like -- show up for work you know you have to actually show up."

" I'll probably throw the publicist which could be in the Gennifer virtually ladies pro who has so implicitly. She told me that it's still needs. They didn't need distorted men's journal because USA today it was going to do sort of boat very. Well you've never showed -- either."

" Or -- men and show you're is sorry to see him leave your life. But his book is on the stands now or in the stores now brad Faxon actually bought a copy. --"

" Actually you have if you view -- got a better read."

" Our assists are going to get to that what do if we when I finish -- vindicated. Should pick and they -- best sports writing of pat Jordan."

" First -- is out Roger Clemens well like describe it and back Simeon there workout routine yeah would you write more. Well developed for your current magazine and a bit about secure the go in what was most surprising but couldn't believe how long. During a basic -- without. In -- confused me. Gotta drive forty years old could work out 810 hours today. I was trying to say what to cool what what he's doing that is all been able to have this much -- That I did this -- UNH UH for playboy don't go almost that long eluded them the same people are missing with there's. Look testosterone appreciate too -- equate both -- to governor elect visible that vote at the same effects. They -- testosterone build strength in muscles. HE EHU unbelievable leverage. Both are pure relief pitcher you would take that structural. Without further extra and you know for your -- all are starting pitcher that I was starting pitcher I would particularly drug would be Yates. Could that they're increasing your -- so that goes seven innings out that."

" Or if your club matches do everything thank you get your hands on everything that Canseco or -- recommends."

" Could could very but if you achilles' secrets or started pitcher."

" And they still can't test for or still."

" There protests Florida."

" Your blood -- so you're you're -- this is a compilation and includes pieces that piece about Clemens in the piece about OJ and wilt Chamberlain -- slot to it it's out too early or too soon it's it's too late to get the piece about Jose in -- but -- got all these other guys profile."

" and particularly if there is cool also settled by what year old guys Carlton Fisk is -- our success -- brought to Chicago after you retired -- got. Well like Jeremy and I know he was an irascible guy I would news with both the reds are familiar are what talks but likeable lot."

" pat Jordan we will look for the the best sports writing pat Jordan -- that's sat in the year in this in the bookstores. Online on our website is chasing Jose by pat Jordan and -- he must read a little long for our readers our listeners. Pat but take the time read that you have some ducks got. Factions in the laughing his ass off at every break between it is it is prices god but I think in XP should just be about high eighty focus in on --"

" I don't know I -- really aren't aren't. Today they're going to do a movie about -- but they."

" The failed hooters waitress. We aren't we appreciate the time that too and thanks for lunch. It Jordan with -- Callahan and meet Peru."

" I really had to. Forgive the not not not the not a fair to -- kids per say I would I would have to say and -- in my heart I -- to forgive the media. But I you know paperwork you know they put me in my room for."

" that -- you feel like year. Forgiven now why I'm gonna understand his point because the fans don't have to pick him and the fans didn't hate him. Minute that the media can turn this into did you ever did an apology you ever -- on number I mean never -- As a guy know that -- closure -- I don't know I -- the opportunity rip -- America. -- on the field when -- emblem on the field as the right into the whole idea that he had to come back and be forgiven -- and complete fabrication it's completely it's really good story I don't know any fan who ever you know genuinely hated him. How he's been back a hundred times in the one you know threaten his life."

" Then 1990 standing ovation first game first game pact with the Red Sox regularly puts one in seven games a year but. That's why -- think of is that big of agility actually came back America's the big deal was the first pitch of course and that was nice and there was striking it was a nice moment. Put it in if you uninformed -- informed us all finally all of -- forget well and I think everybody believes that's the -- the Red Sox you know they have won the World Series and how many years before the ground ball goes through his legs and now that. They've won a couple of Aussie safe safe specter of yeah I could feel noted David Ortiz low assists and bill Buckner."

" I think it was do with the -- here hopefully many years you. And a bad thing. Yeah -- we know that. With a friendly and that do. That was great for things and again."

" Yes they do like you don't know for three against Mary Rogers said the tigers -- Jeremy Bonderman tonight -- zone three lifetime at Fenway Jerry and your boy Jacoby ellsbury will he be in the lineup. Does not have a --"

" He's going to come in late in the game defensive replacement Joseph role just like yesterday you can't you know expect unseat a legend like Coco Crisp in just tuned in that quickly got to budget time on the bench you up."

" I think he bought some more at bats yesterday RBI. At a single right played good -- 25250 Stewart Coco crowd here. Ellsbury can do that the god not at all not at all a play -- Brandon Inge center field for the Detroit Tigers does that looked. Curtis Granderson out of one of these views it was just unbelievable last should have been the MVP in and he's not points -- Verizon Lindsay beck. They think the beginning a minute. Yes my winning game and make so now they started 20039. There was a host the sock you know enable us to one night Bonderman oh victory at Fenway. You know I tell tigers stopped on the turn that thing off well is that Phil who has."

" That is feminine looking for on his like now as litmus I mean for your massage. JD faction -- careful what. You can leave us us us us deal wouldn't that four. Like I'm not happened or just that I got a cap in the -- Are Edwards replaces Jerry great moments of knowing -- thrown -- the police and the school's fun. Wasn't wasn't going round cathartic moment though it was all for giving him. Moving on to another -- lines it's like your idea though chasing bill Buckner. That you engine Jerricho that Bush's ill Lyle I think I -- an -- that is Lionel. Cristiano probably wouldn't catch him there could not yours you they have double it was."

" Well judging from -- in view is his press conference and then with his half an inning half coordinates with Diaw and -- I don't think -- You know complex Lucifer right right. Live in that that interest things are Jose's not that interest in the hole. The whole fascination with the story is just how messed up he is and how we won't even deign to leave his host -- talked to a guy. Who was there to help promote his book."

" Well the Oakland days -- they bring back some real guys that they would -- supposedly walked in if it's stand up and throws it. Now Tito Tito is chairman -- wound."

" Most special things I think I've ever seen. -- when that Connolly could -- to happen and and to watch his reaction and watched the fan reaction was was very special. I was happy for him I was throwing programs I was happy for the organization I thought that was a very. Very special moment and actually last -- moment which I think is also appropriate."

" Well you got to feel good that Tito I didn't even though few you know Tom didn't tell you now know avocado -- that's good."

" And to keep the secret yes it's that I didn't. I couldn't believe Omar -- at Fenway for a day it was amazing and and personal -- it to him how they dine -- taxed that you can't let people in on that a word spreads that come marketplace beam house through the areas -- to the go to pictures of the trophy he wouldn't let them DiMarco it be all man. Ever talk to -- did you view."

" I -- Celtics win 1 settle for accuse -- on pace to time there it's you know why don't cicadas and the NBA last Munich -- Miami and the Knicks one. And how to act clearly the games aren't real right now on the literally millions and scrimmage is the plan and they the -- balls one. They did when it yes thank goodness championship at them again 6448. Yes what is going bottle -- vibrations are you usually we get some vibration is another is being built the the you get dirty pictures since -- that he shares some of its depictions and you know -- confirm with the latest odds on tonight's Red Sox game with a -- a few more members to soccer. Era you think he's ready bad -- celebrity list."

" It's awesome. To see that putt go in on eighteen and for me especially you know having had some great chances -- major championships haven't come close here so many times to finally break -- win and then to yeah I would I saw highlight of that putt the other night and that ball won't run around the cup before finally went in and went -- dropped it was a it was a great feeling."

" Tomko for in his -- and made upon jumped up successes here. This is Zach Johnson. Eighties I don't like about his old when he was. When he -- a DiMarco yeah but let us come from that it's at the right at five. Focused on Bullard tonight -- I got to focus on break and 37. Barrett Barack Obama his thirties they have those lanes with the bumpers and signs in the -- still got thirty yeah. It the race they showed up idea massage and understood bullish and yes -- put it on the line pay for the limo there are two it's a -- Spots still available -- right."

" You'd -- yes sir log on to W yeah I dot com Dennis and Callahan page and that is basically we can sign up and call --"

" Call Cathy. That's we have to do it call yet he doesn't mean yeah and Dodgers that multiple I'm done -- facts once an NHL treatment we vehicles and now we get people were upset that knows. Denigrating these big bill Buckner moment which Ellison do instead of dreading it it was a nice moment it was a nice you denigrates the best it does this fund pays all is forgiven. Always triumph he -- crew was insurance you with a single and score."

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