Wed, 1 Aug 2007|
Ken joined Dale & Michael on the Dale & Holley show to discuss the winners and losers of the trade dealine and what to expect from teams in the second half.
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Ken Rosenthal from fox sports and Major League Baseball package on the weekend as well -- Ken how aria. It -- great thanks we were we were talking about the winners and losers on trade deadline day and will put Atlanta firmly in the category of winner. About the Red Sox.
What do no question and I think the acquisition Gagne. Was really a testament -- Epstein -- this creativity. He does a great job on the -- made some different moves over the years some work some don't of course but. -- it was -- as well they had been no trade -- to work through which. Equity means for the Red Sox giving its present his or his experience. I really like them now with god hitter is at risk of course of health and there's some people aren't sure rules failed to rest the year but. I really like -- like --
what did you hear about. The the last stages of the Red Sox negotiations with Kenny Williams and the White Sox for Jermaine --
My understanding of these could ever match up on players and I've -- over the week in order over the weekend that it was a really played 13 last week they were close to. And that fell apart because the 13. So and the Red Sox White Sox began negotiating directly with each other and and for whatever reason they just couldn't ever get there and is that they act got. What a law that I was we've trade ought now of course they got god -- that would creative financing -- Promises -- were going to do the same thing for diet but. -- never saw him Michael has agreed it anyway so how it was late enough satisfying and that was the main issue when he colon. -- because. I had a free agent indices it would -- bench where it. Goes somewhere will be somewhere where he can. Keep his value high that was the issue in the I just never quite saw that they look about in the days ahead how exactly -- use him -- I would get.
Mariano Rivera went on talk radio in New York a couple of days ago and practically begged the Yankees to get bullpen help. Not only did they not get bullpen help unless you think -- the Chamberlain is going to be better than Scott Proctor even in the short term they took away from their bullpen what was going on there.
Well Procter and you know -- and I think now what was. The year goes so is series going to be young -- which came up. I don't know the use in all he did this guy at the eighth in -- will do it. We've taken -- five point -- and so -- Chamberlain is going to be a part of what -- as well. And the way they see it. He did the -- Adam Wainwright was the cardinals last few rugby as well as the angels they want -- like those guys were all closers. Maybe -- chamber and possibly setup role skip always erratic college in the one drastic last year. But he throws really guardians are really good slider and they just feel that that could be a piece that. Works it and now there's the possibility of relievers in August. Russia are there any great out there and what about the relief market I. Look at the want to trade Linebrink Dotel. Gagne of course Dan Wheeler. None of these guys with the exception of -- has gone to these ethnic -- So I don't Cleveland Indians and tigers they want it open help as well he's fine. -- party's future and it is to talk about so bad idea why. Restraint -- it would happen.
Again writing on espn.com Jayson stark stock quotes. A scout who says that. God is not a difference maker anymore and his changeup is elevated its just not the same guy that we used to -- you agree with that.
Well he's not the end I was -- and like there's no question that is draw was art and straighter probably isn't as good but. Performance this year pretty good hand. He certainly had the experience or in the know how to survive in the one favorite -- like about him. Is that he pitched not simply Horry does Lyle and nine which is -- he. Can do you locate. Works off the best all worked with a changeup at a breaking ball really good one. I don't think -- forwards one -- the issue I think if anything else that I -- wonder about these and keep them fresh. And --
Folks in Boston in I guess around the country we known as a caricature of the guy who had 84 consecutive saves the goggles. Who is who is the man behind the mask so to speak what kind of guys in the clubhouse.
Oh I think people like. And I think -- be a popular guy embarked. The great community and in fact the Rangers one reason or above the treated at -- them they're young relievers and they like that. So as far as that's concerned they're writing the Red Sox will be I think popular I -- off. You know high profile I liked the spotlight that's one reason. Had to be convinced the -- closer role full time because. This is something -- races he races that responsibility.
It also seems -- that bit in directly the Red Sox were also giving an indication of where they think Curt Schilling has. Completed his third and final rehab start last night hasn't given up a run in his rehab outings in in Pawtucket will go back in the lineup on on Sunday in Seattle they must be very strong on the medical reports about him.
Yet and also keep in mind you know that there really ought to story now though it was a they can go out I want I -- they traded -- in this deal and that. Obviously -- that a little bit but many people -- baseball field -- I it was probably at its peak. The back of the rotation -- along -- huge difference it the other those certainly help this year. Yeah I think the opposite of what actually a certain about activities in which Chinese but it seems that right now is such.
We talked about contenders obviously Atlanta help it's helped itself right now for for those post season run soda Boston. With taxes getting rid of Teixeira getting rid of Lofton getting rid of Gagne did they give back a good hall. For their minor league system that do people look at this and -- well. They did a really good job.
It seemed like and -- you know prospects are just that the prospects and certainly in -- so. For five years now --
Could be its -- Lockheed is the only star player that they receive altered deal -- nine players personal for a share. Lofton and forgot. But they got a shortstop that they like in the shared the young -- little bit away left and -- Arista that your deal is perhaps your war. Everett is perhaps above or five. David -- is prob which is spare outfielder it and the kids they got bought out -- about a week only 17 by. As an incredibly nice feeling out there. Of course we will see that deleted. For five years. And the catcher they got from. Cleveland or Kenny Lofton he's a guy who had it back. Differently now so we -- nine players in the quality is. Pretty good I think he'll hit on. At best public for the and they do that -- out because they were keeping Sherrill is no question about that. Often with this spare part and this year and god -- When they go to Reese signed as a free agent Scott Boras at -- I think the chances probably not too.
We'll hope the time heals all wounds if you're the ownership of the Minnesota Twins. Because their best player in shore hot at what they did or didn't do yesterday Gil and Santana was very pointed.
Yes he was and they have ever at this today it's not so much training -- Because he's a free agent and he can still be a good team without. And I -- I -- that the -- unit of these in the third baseman in the second have. Qualms about leaving -- the better player course but didn't get that third baseman. They give it -- really in June and it's funny they operate -- personal best eight. Both those teams are trip and a half for all of them but at the same time you wonder. Why they are more rested during training period. Read editor -- matters like stability if I had prospects. They just aren't or did that -- different GM of which sent the orientation. And Terry Ryan the twins don't with the angels just aren't really.
I shot at this time of year the music that GM they certainly not a bad idea but. I thought that the.
Curiously as. -- at least.
In a year you mentioned Scott Boris a couple of minutes ago got me that they can. About his relationship -- the Red Sox yes the Red Sox did lose Johnny Damon -- Scott Boras guy but Diaw was gone. JD Drew Scott Boras guy Daisuke stop -- are very attack. Scott Boras guy Gagne Scott Boras guy in the Red Sox have been able to negotiate. Charades acquisitions with Boris they don't think it's the big bad Scott Boris why.
Well first of all it's your major league. If you looked up or you're going to have a problem or cup or alot of good -- So I think while the Red Sox. Like any other people are occasionally frustrated by a horse. They recognize that one -- well prepared do -- get extremely good talent and great they've got to get it was. So I think it's a good job you know within. Obviously the true contract is still question whether that was an idea that's not force question that the red dot question and you know after the Yankees they've dealt. You look at most teams that succeed and they have to deal on some level in -- like the Orioles White Sox and others that. In the past and -- resistant. Deceptively good players it's like it GM. That maybe you don't trust it'll like -- the -- you'd you'd trade. Well you're primary interest is serving and I think the -- the good job again to go on the occasional just. It is short that they don't had been -- simply because cup -- is difficult negotiate.
Theo couldn't reach agreement with Kenny Williams yesterday on Jermaine Dye I don't think his pursuit of another bat is dead however as you point out your piece today. Deals do get made over the course of this month and will get made and I still wouldn't be surprised to see a Reggie Sanders for instance and up here in Boston by the end of the month.
Nor I I think it's entirely possible. And there will be deals made there's no question there's. A list of about 1516 -- it up with the guys could be traded. Most of them have recently -- is working whatever it is or in this period. Impossible clear waivers or in the street directly involved in the way. When may do more they stay -- or why he still have an open obviously he Redick Gagne. In Okajima and papelbon I would imagine meters the questions but we're starting in.
I -- asked about the Yankees for a second -- two years ago the Yankees or anyone else would have been thrilled to get Wilson betterment. They got -- yesterday than in Europe that much what is the story with that in -- was a highly regarded prospect as the couple years ago what distort.
He was a great prospect and yet trade the Dodgers last year and I mean I've our -- at some personal issues. Have been hurt and he's done we had done a decent job with the Dodgers but. Performances off the bench pinch hitter it agent situation and I just wonder. If you can do that with the act which is going to be its initial roll he's on he shall a lot of power switch hitter. My first and third and I think if that is what they have. Of all backed A-Rod -- their -- created on the short he'd be that it didn't issue the doctors. They can that -- third base job it would be so that he useful part of them battle species. The tremendous addition but he still young and they feel that there is for wrote there so they.
My final point me and I'm not sure anybody around here -- amateur people in Pittsburgh care about pirates level on the people around here but. Dave littlefield from Maine I'm from Maine I like him we had him on our -- when we were down in Fort Myers. All began to fight and figure out what he's trying to do scare though -- why do you go out and get Matamoros on that team at that price tag.
I totally agree.
As irritate the idea is not all -- veteran starter on top of those youngsters they have a patient -- are certainly is. -- you want. He is an example compete like crazy. You now he wants one that's been trying to a lot of -- thought it was done in camp pitched well two months. And now appears that those that two month period with the aberration not the norm. It's of the on the outside of his career and I have -- into next year for the life of me I can't figure it out no baseball. I agree and if they'll have nice guys good guys good based on. But he's under fire GM for quite some time now there ownership dynamic change a little bit recently it's quite possible that this.
Where you this weekend. And cubs a man like -- odds are.
Actually you know -- what you guys on vacation for about six weeks. I don't biggest single read that while I didn't do -- in the Red Sox we we do it. Yeah bugle Michael was -- long -- vacation without getting married -- actually it's got a guy like Dave littlefield acquiring Matt -- they make. Get things will tucked in next week they can rose ball from fox sports and part of baseball package and fox during the weekend
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