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Joe McDonald from ESPN Boston Joins Danny Picard to Talk Bruins and Shawn Thornton

Dec 14, 2013|

Danny Picard discusses the Bruins Shawn Thornton's 15 game suspension with ESPN Boston's Joe McDonald.

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    Our number two Chris aligning with sports Sunday Sports Radio WEEI 6177797937. Then not all Red Sox some pretty much all Jon Lester threw the first hour lie detectors weighing in on the AT&T tax line on that will get to that just a moment. Out final round of the masters is going on a maturity people. Into getting into what is much science tiger. And without Phil as well he Mickelson showed up I think late Thursday night she flew in and Friday after energy is flied out. With Phil Mickelson. I he had a tough weekend are tough early going Richardson first round in a local guy Keegan Bradley struggled missed But there are some big games of the top the leaderboard some exciting. I young names of the Jordan's BT's twenty years old he's cash to win the masters I he'd be the youngest winner since 1979. LEB younger. Then the tiger was the first time you want it. And one of the things that really stood out to me is speaking with some people were down there this week to cover the toward talks and these young guys and it get back to tiger. The complete and water. Lack of off. Around around Tiger Woods to these guys are too young you think about twenty years old 21 years old with somebody like camera some would like walker. In somebody like Blix the Swedish guys and second right now and he's. He's like 28. You know some of these guys too young to really remember or at least have played with tiger against tiger. When he was hitting level like we never seen before the PGA tour earlier received since Jack. And they look at him now a Zagat shoot 77 on the weekends. Is that cats really contention anymore where is I mean Aaron I'm not old and your and all of you remember when. Final round tigers in the lead it was done forget about it I mean one year in the PGA YE Yang those big shots out late and ended up beating and yet that epic battle with Bob May. I nearly beat him in the PGA but it would for the most part just wasn't close he would get a lead and he was one of the best closers in the we'd seen in the sport. But it's just it's different now that's a different vibe. Around Tiger Woods and it's gone from seemingly a foregone conclusion that he would get to nineteen majors is seemingly foregone conclusion that he won't eat next year. Does play majors this year. Is give forty years old Jack won three. After he needs five Jack won three after forty to two of those were when he was forty and the masters in 986. Was kind of an out Larry's 46 years old. Tiger would be a hall of fame career from here on out five major championship all career to get in nineteen. I think it's interesting not only his fall from grace just as a player. In terms of winning majors the was in my opinion at least the best player on were last year he had five or six wins a torch to win major. But the bigger thing to me is just how some of these younger players perceive him do tiger as a contention it used to be regarded. The average stroke. The average round rather up a stroke in. In in the in the final round on Sundays when tiger was in contention real just kind of melted aged just. Folded around with a few exceptions mentioned Bob revealed in Nickels and it's good battles but. For the most part it was just tiger's world everybody else's playing for second they were on him Ernie Els just not Now is young guys just young enough to cocky enough and don't really remember that at least they didn't play through it. And they're saying how statute 75 on the weekends with what's not ID in the turn now but. I should be upon Sunday Bubba Watson very very likable guy. And I Jordan who were finding out a lot about trying to become the youngest masters winner a long time quick birds update we'll get back to the calls against 617779. 7937. Cordially NC DM IA's doing great to get the good news on him that was definitely a concern that you know DM IAA was. Out I got hit looked like in the that it from I thought it was illegal but not dirty if that makes sense I don't think there was intent to injure there. It was just one of those times you're trying to make a hockey play get the principal point contact up higher and you won it. So I thought it was an illegal hit not a dirty hit but by a help not the that you concussion translated to on the ice Thursday that part we don't know just yet. But Patrice Bergeron it sound like is fine I he missed the third period yesterday that would would have been a huge concern. I outside to go. There's not too many guys you point to and say this more important to the bees and Bergeron two way player in hockey this year. Obvious he's good according to coach Julianne and Chris Kelly looks like still day to day with that back injury so some. Relatively speaking. Minor bumps and Bruce is going into the Stanley Cup Playoffs but you know these guys especially Alec Bergeron if he could be on the ice on Thursday against the red he's going to be there. I HTT tech slide is 37937. It's like grab a few of these real quick a one Dexter says eight times over David Price let Lester walked. While you make Casey price a better pitcher at this stage of his career early younger I can cost more money. And now your bidding against everybody else you've got the cost control guy. Housing cost control we get the guided the under your control rather. The of the exclusive negotiating window with wants to stay here to guide it. As more in depth track record in the post season to sign him. And that point it's not a knock on price and gives great pitcher. But if you're looking at what you can do it even easier than that that will save you some money relative to what price can get on the open market signed last. I know detector can you imagine having Stanton in Boston did it forty plus homers easy architecture from western mass. Two words about prospects Daniel yep they can go hard the other way. I another one here says agree with you order percent top of the rotation guys talk about Lester innings a year post seasons died. Given the cash over five years five for one and should get it done. And out finally is Lester stats are comparable to average career he walked away from 244 million Lester has been better than Homer Bailey and look at the contract. That he just signed a few textures telling me the gets four clocked at. Well evening parade for a UConn for the championships I assume the men and women together out both of them winning the national title. Yes as tougher as Turkey's but happy for Kevin Ollie who now is the next. Hot coaching named to go from college to the end beauty after eight seasons. But undefeated in the NCAA tournament ally guys can say that are at six or 77797937. is in New Jersey he's up next When then. Just try to not cute bit Ali thank you and I can't believe that a low ball. Jon Lester like they don't agree that you like a side impact by one and whatever argument sake. We have been out of my. But you see a lot of contracts for your team that have gone got into the contract stratosphere and some of them have really worked out so well. But for a number like dapper Lester what he's so willing to stay. I agree I was surprised. When I saw what the number was at the end of spring training where the Red Sox know Lester broke off toxin seems like a a low ball contract terms of dollars in a low ball contract thirty years. definitely. god I G I mean lucky probably let out a little bit like that way radio reluctant I had. Yeah I mean yeah I'm with you thanks to the fall being a former yankees fans perspective. They're never shy about spending dollars. That Lester contract is makes sense and I've said this a few times. Because just getting back to this point I do think my gut still tells me they get a Don. Gut feeling they still get this contract done because I hate candidate it player just wants too much just wants to be a Boston too much. You back going to be here at the expense of taking deal it's foolish and a four year seventy to eighty million dollar contract before which. At ball way below market terms years below market terms the average annual There's no upside here it sounded like a Red Sox blown away with a give you four years but here's point six million a year. Which is probably more than you gonna get I guarantee each and every year on the open market that it could at least. I still think Lester would walk away from crystal he'd say no. But I could look at that is saying the Red Sox in good faith effort to try to. Do with last year what they've done with other guys which is over pay an average annual dollars but try to take that discounted terms of the number years seventy. I can't say that. I can't see it as they came under years came under dollars 6177797937. Bill isn't busted up next they've built. They would subject. who visual. You know what about. You guys keep in the world. Could together okay. guys they look at the guys renewed deal if everybody involved. Make him have the option to. Who boarded deals rivals ordered to the guys will. Make it work. So real simple. So three years of his make sure Israelis and three years seventy million. And then assuming he stays healthy another two years at how much. Ordered me at all. That would come out to volley at 5110. About then you know what would actions. YouTube. 120. It was cute guys so. Yeah It it it any guaranteed dollars sport. That that's just not gonna work for the players work for last. Well hope what works right now what made two big guy a two year deal seven million. With a guarantee. Appeared to remain nimble. The two more years of targeted what are enviable. Well let's get. That that that the five year 120 million dollar contract. Where. OK I guess that that's reasonable but I mean you if you're guaranteeing the money that it's not three years in the two years to five years. And yet we could what three years didn't work out three years it will be created numerous believe that you develop very animated. You know. Yeah I mean I like well. I guess I can't get what you in there you know again trial period so to speak at three year seventy million dollar. You know test blown the CP states LP and see if he still producing. The news saying guaranteed fifty million after that which is five for once money. Why would John again you'd think about it okay hometown discount know we heard the operator gets excited about it. to get past the idea of a hometown discount meeting complete insanity. Seventy million dollars even over a three years average dollars a lot of money. But it still. 50% of what can get out in the open market. You know why would I take seventy million guaranteed even for three years when I could just double that six years guaranteed at 140 million. You know six I can get that extra seventy million dollars over three more seasons just to go out in the open market. That would be a great team friendly kind of idea but Lester were being eyed Joseph and Wakefield once the way HL. What they've done so much for the in the you know 78 years. That burning up I don't know are already up at. I agree with UN and the injury concern for me is that they're now we are talking about Clay Buchholz we'd be having added I merely different conversation. But with Lester even a year it was bad in 2012. Still pitch to plus innings. Yeah I mean you don't get a picture wondering about that party and you don't hate you guys brought there get a going to be offered. And I are I think I really like the attitude that you just want the behavior I don't understand why the Internet situation black. We're not talking about giving the guy a 140. I'm not all that with the amount of money more book like the object audit. Well he had I think the Red Sox kind of Hewitt in the regard as well that's why I wasn't completely floored when he said OK if we here opera was the most that they had. I'll put out there by the time they broke off negotiations. But I'd be and neighbor of 400. Yell now and a and a big. Average annual value a Ford seventy for is an opera that you know the players get a that's an opera that it's designed to be turned out. Yeah independent though they looked like but based on the yacht I don't know it. All the the PR stunt getting negative PR because I think I had tickets ridiculous they have any Lester did lie to me if he blocks away at the end of the day. And and the Red Sox look back and in the end flick back and say. And they could of they could negotiate they could out of spring training but the only opera percent beat the teams the only one's gonna look bad that's an. Aerial my opinion darker integrated you know integrated I'm sorry you know it made it. It's the same age and it did Dustin Pedroia has I can't think of his name off my head to similar Pedroia as we negotiated down discounts the This situation it is thought here we cannot I mean update completely done park are now completely. It sounds like till the end of the season got to do have an exclusive negotiating window. Went thanks for the college and they've exclusive negotiating window with Lester. After the season is over and that it's free agency. But you know in my mind even if the Red Sox were come back with a big number in the fall. But it even gets to. Reagents even gets to the point were other teams are our ticketing contracts are offers a Lester you're probably spending more than what you have spent. It just get the deal done now. You just avoid any possibility any any chance did you rate in the another team another suitor and unlike David Ortiz we can't you know we had a debate about Ortiz is going to be even a market that is. And I thought maybe lot of people but absolutely now. That's fine with Lester there's no debate right. I mean when I can debate the fact that it thirty year old going on 31 year old lefty it's starting pitcher with a great post season track records that market. We know that that's the case there's going to be money thrown at this. So you have the opportunity. To not only negotiate exclusively with him up or you even touch or even Free agency. It to get an offer on the table to sign this guy if they're not able losing the player beat. I signing into a deal that maybe goes outside their comfort zone because now they worry about free agency not to worry about other offers them. You could have made a better fate in my mind decide than these reported figures in at these numbers are right you know he's not taking. It's an it's designed to be refused to keep brought out their deceit it's a hit proper. I don't think organ necessarily buy that I think that this mark baseball banner that. That they and as long as you're in line with keeping Lester some cables don't want that at any high price and that's fine that's your opinion I disagree by. It any band that wants Jon Lester back is valued at his team. It and understand just what the market is looking for the seventy's at It's an insult. Text messages committed 37937. AT&T like. Texas is Red Sox have too many pitches in the system they had the upper hand. Now that it's does its thing is too many pitchers in this is have a lot of starting pitching depth they have a lot of potential. As allowed by hope and is better than Jon Lester obese Kerr shot why not. But you know what you have in Jon Lester. You don't know what you have yet Henry and that goes to my point of if you're gonna have some of these cost control pre arbitration arbitration guys up. Lester got the money to do. He could have a a lot of money coming off the books over the next read of where years. Yet a pitcher John Lackey threw for 500000 dollars on next season. In NA and it not a salary cap sport but it sport I care about a 189 million dollar luxury tax threshold for the at least they're from last. I that to take three years the market's already at five to six. years as Lester won't get 140 on the open market I disagree I think he will. I the Texas is give Lester one of these two deals. Or for a hundred or seven and 12611. if the offer candidate for for a hundred then I would say you know the Sox made an effort. They made shots try to sign him and take battled down discounted terms of the year when it for par seventy it. and a few text is going back to a couple calls as a wide world Lester take three year deal and a trial period. We can get five years guaranteed and I completely agree this is an interesting text here get this one before the break. I you know I'm not entirely sure why everyone has the phrase 110 for five I should get it done because he had no idea. What will get it done in theory. Yet that would be a hometown discount. 111 for five years an option six and eight I have no way of knowing. Whether that would get it done so he's looking at 5110. I just keep coming back that number because I look at. What the market would probably and keep going back to guys like Cole Hamels you know reasonable comparable to last year's regular season numbers I see six. In 144. EC 23 and change per year so take roughly that average annual value. 43 in his case it's going to take a year back it five years old hometown discount. But he's not leaving and and the billions of dollars That's why I come back to that number I'll get it done I have no idea what I'd be willing to go to say. 150 over 520 million a year probably. Start pushing diablo or we'll talk. You see what the number but a number I have in mind. And a lot of people have in mind they think 22 million a year twenty to 22 million a year years and college day. Five years a 10210 million dollars 6177797937. The point though I had no idea we don't know. What gets I can tell you this though. Ward seven he doesn't get it on told you that before knowing. That that was the for the Jon Lester turned out we get back to your calls coming up next we'll talk war. 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This -- the courage you know championing through an enterprising -- four. Do any good courage. Com Sports Radio W via. Welcome back then you've got Joseph here on Sports Radio WEEI here until 8 o'clock be safe out there was snowed -- Joseph McDonald ESPN Boston he has been a boston.com he's gonna join me. And just a moment we're gonna talk about Shawn Gordon fifteen game suspension. Bruins tonight and Vancouver. That top line for the -- great -- Lucic again. Really playing well you see again announced on what the box and then that I wicked people say odds -- -- -- it -- I thought it was actually play well -- wonder what the score. Talk about this game and the suspension. And the reaction right now all with -- McDonnell ESPN Boston Georgia -- AT&T hotline Joseph good evening I don't. I get the snow off my backyard rink or don't realize -- is it is up front. It. Ready to go in part -- but this -- doesn't help matters much. Yeah now it doesn't well I mean. What it's pretty cold -- get on to recreate what the classic in the snow on the yacht and published note you have right now. -- got the numbers add up buddy here in northern Rhode Island so -- would probably gonna get fired eight -- The fine weather men around me around the area but we're -- or you know get the backyard we're really going to begin to -- -- -- are looking forward to look like little -- winner. While ago I thought -- thought was gonna get ten games he gets fifteen what's your reaction to the suspension. Shawn Thornton fifteen yet. While the league want to you know set an example and indicated. You know I thought you can get longer can I tell you how to get twelve games out did he knows a little pride to a that's pretty hard but. And you have to when you look at -- play Indian and I wrote it all I reacted piece for the suspension but. They may have remembered that you. Look at the play it's okay. The game had been. Yes and stoppage in play when he went in higher ranked in the new Cologne. And it act or OK we'll -- home country on some points and had. That being -- It is it is. Of the action I beat the I was surprised by it -- but given your period -- I think that probably realistic. But whitbeck there. I believe that you know with Orton gave him in the east. -- -- literally pennies for putting almost you know almost 87000 dollars yeah and salary so. -- when you look at the plate now they are played at. Before talk about your peak hit on -- and talk about -- I'd need to head of march and into a lot of actors and Bob here on that court in Olympic and -- -- cool and and trotted protected teammate and go to her teammate like there's a lot involved and I think that's why. It -- Cringing and you know so long in the league along to decide what exactly. Could it coordinate because there -- a lot active -- involved here. Speak it would Joseph McDonald ESPN Boston on AT&T hotline with talk much on dornin is fifteen. Game suspension for what did the Brooks -- last weekend at the TD garden. I'll get to those -- meal me and OPEC hit on Ericsson in just a moment Joba back that is a Shawn Thornton's situation. I mean the league don't have to be careful here and addition as punishment out. That they can't promote this type of action I mean isn't that really the biggest thing for them. Regardless of what happened before but don't need to be careful to make sure that they don't promote this action. -- the league but you can't have guys just run around her own people the guys and punch him when a defenseless you can have. -- and that's why I think gaming that's why they. They had that in the game suspension for all can be beat date trying to clean up the -- okay an incident like it. I can't remember the last time in and I -- back now trying to look -- -- and we know when that was an entry that occurred. During a stoppage in play that resulted. In fines and suspensions. And -- that part of the game is you know they'd done a good job of cleaning that up you know obviously -- those in Japan in world anymore. And all -- -- it's -- that the -- -- we also are we all grow up watching. But now I think. They cleaning up police and any time. -- ER -- he played and related I think it is going had a practice and. -- to moving forward with in conflict. They don't happen very often but when they do now they have to delete app because it. It has the day OK we -- short on fifteen gave that and we aptitude and has been moving forward. If I do I keep going back to the fact that. Play was stopped and that's why I think. And you eluded. The video. -- in all of -- to watch what Picard who last week and I just you know it was. It would not good what he did it just it just wasn't. But again there were in Atlanta. I constantly think about any type of old -- called -- react that way. Is it had to get -- we believe I. In the NBA -- back. The punishment. Football and woods was the right one -- For everything that you said removing all act the president as to incident late. Like it's one in Iraq. The reason I mean I thought it was ten Georgia and it was fifteen but the reason I don't think it's too over the top notch because I believed to be careful not promote this type behavior. Also because if I think that if this -- any other player that had a history we're talking automatic thirty games I think this is that that. Yeah I agree -- -- -- and and I think that is what the player who you know have been mystery -- you know. -- -- -- -- -- -- If there with him at the -- that the that no doubt we. A lot more games than it being. In the wanting to keep looking at all are you sure -- all it shouldn't go to India or render. That way again get back to play who would stop. He went out the length of the right to go. This guy and you know I covered -- -- -- you know you have a well I mean big bill. Com you know they don't come lately John Thornton a weasel school you know -- he played the game right away. He's more danger of -- moment just a tough guy he averages eight to twelve minute game that -- one of the bad. In what lines leading IA leak and he does a lot more -- like. I'm like it did you know -- obviously too badly in adoration that what is art and in eleven seasons in the NHL. But again you look at the infinite -- Because it would stop. It -- it changes the dynamic of the punishment and I think that they get it right. You know you'd feel that organic or because you don't bleeding in the right way especially in that role prior to and then. No more hungry. How it is coaching and all. I mean what what comes back punishment. That play the game you know the same way you know like he does but it it is a little more aware of his surroundings and in his actions move forward but. It is I think it's a it was a talk. -- -- -- -- for the leak may yet another type of player that's a part in -- important as when you look at intimate so I think it was just. And look again I think it was more than I thought it was going to be -- I I think it could have been worse if it was another if it was in any other player in the league that you just mentioned joke. Joke that she -- Shaun Hill is a guy who lives and dies by the cold. I mean that's just what he does -- -- does -- so much that goes unnoticed I don't think each and easily play because let's face it that was an emotional moments -- man I know it was. The play it stopped and the other stuff that happened a little bit before then but what happened in this game that led up to us. And that's why would I look at this whole situation which probably Campbell that. I'm a little I'm a little mind boggled as to how nearly got five games but also all. Book you mentioned clean up the game. And there are people I talked to in this league that say that acknowledged that what what did judge camp promoted. Blocked. What it is not gonna take another run at a Bruins play. And he's a really the type hits to try and limit you try to eliminate that goes by pitcher trying to get respect back in the game you know we get back to appointments and earlier. What what is it is a loose puck like go after the clock. Don't pick a running anybody or it won't take another run body took a run before. Why isn't he -- finesse. He could be in a -- I agree with you right and that get back went out it was. You know even no child born law school in and he did what he did and it was wrong. You have to go back in your outlook or -- I'm Louis -- I think you know you look at and real it looked like a clean -- At the -- would -- the -- was it it will we have entered orbit quid pro but don't you watch it you know and slow motion and -- reclaimed a lot again and again. The more you watch it the more like. Shoulder ahead. I'll end it was a it was a it was a -- at the body checked by corporate that it will Eric and the question in five weeks in now. I believe and people have been killed in the on Twitter for you know my my opinion on this but I believe that it or pick. I mean suing -- -- big win and try again in true. And done OK I did well do you get what you -- do. The story and what I mean we're talking about -- -- -- -- and I went back in and not pay into it these two it is what. You go back to -- mile which reached out right -- And Miller got a concussion and game two years ago. You know -- You know there was no reaction you know they'll push back in the -- at all that mean at mile Lucci bought some would -- I don't blame but the very next game that they played eleven days later -- -- It would. It was -- and are you Lucci and aren't they didn't hear right now for the sabres are caught on got a yeah they draw the club you know because all we -- Cilic -- Italian goalie you have react let it. And those who dropped out. 86 seconds into the game and I'll agree that it was over. And I think that what it is a prime example of the corporate at -- world. The it would have been already done accurate because there's no way to game that police. Would you want to believe it or not -- -- light on not. The players will say the same things aren't covered it in nearly complete scope prior to that sentiment and he said the same thing is that. -- belongs in the game either did not order a -- not pork the thing that really bugs him is. Retaliation quite got a clean and -- that he can't be but police in the game. It helped specially -- like bought -- that's why the ultra that's because they are intimidating. Seeing. If you been fighting I -- get up the subject but if you infighting. The brutal intimidation factor and they're entirely different paint. Well Joseph I should do what is your players do not want to eliminate fighting. For the reason that you know behind the scenes and to a man has a lot of people that say it up a run Ericsson don't do that again. And I I think I maybe in the league that like apple did a double what the result of it and the concussion in the stretch but it -- like. No I -- -- right I needed. Obviously that this move afoot that we'll put it not a good thing that concussion we're not a good thing -- -- at the end result was horrible in -- Toward the locker room was I doing a lot of credit could had a goal and read about it -- OK and you would he would remorseful and you almost computer. Because that I mean you know corporate income during the summer -- -- under -- I mean they know we try to make -- you know walked CI. You know he was almost and -- Because that is it actually but. The thing here. You can't go after. And you can go after a player into having no blind side hit. When a -- not expecting it have a guy opera conscience barely make up the ice on his own and not expect some kind of. Push back and seeing it in orbit knew that it was -- it would come and wonder who's going to be bad game or an -- it'll play again for the the other regulatory and so maybe that's what he thought you know I'm -- million -- market drop the gloves. And I'll I'll get other. You know I I don't believe that -- -- drop the -- and patent and ship with all of it would have been -- what angle block air. Don't believe an eight iron probably to get elect would report but it's part of the game at the reality of the game. The player like get the culture like it. -- its policing itself in an age at it just went to all sleep well an act the way that he did in that will talk. And Spiegel John McDonald ESPN Boston here and AT&T hotline a -- that's why I get back to denote that the play is want to eliminate the hits more than they want to eliminate what did. They almost think that anyone thought -- is gonna eliminate a hit like that that's why the fight -- are in the game to police this game -- that's why I -- I don't understand. Why corporate wasn't suspended. I guess that's why don't understand that. -- -- I I'm surprised and look at Charlotte seeing it may go look at -- -- hit and and give them something. Just has a legal way that became incredibly good about bad hip and an ideal situation -- marching and and then and then obviously that the court situation in orbit. I'm surprised I am any I'm really guys that -- did not give any suspension Connecticut as you look back at. Eric can -- -- -- it and -- are we don't wanted to come back. Yeah I think that's cited the at a -- at that went wrong by not given not -- pick any type of -- discipline what what's the feeling in the room -- on Ericsson I mean net. What I not obviously -- gonna go for awhile with his second concussion right this season. How what how concerned all day I guess long term for the rest of the year about the sky and even may -- for Korea. What's the concern level -- and right now itself. What the what if game here we noticed in Austin you know too well yeah is that any time you deal with an injury concussion the ball and growing. Will take their time to make sure that one. He how he can live in light. And almost possible and then when that happened -- -- showing no -- no symptoms. Then they'll stop at Procter and you know ride the stationary bike and in doing. Those awfully quick -- and it -- -- impact and I'll you don't act so I think that has given the fact that it was a technique correctly or five weeks there. I think it would probably take their time and that -- just make sure. From a health standpoint that Ericsson is OK moving forward because they dealt with this organization that would concussion for a long time area quite a while he Bergeron and the U that you -- character and obviously Mark -- And many elders also this is one area and -- -- was going to -- in the big to make sure he is 100 so 100%. Or close to it. Before he comes back put it is there a blow to the Bruins because he's really not play well especially that lion and a acknowledges it -- brought the organization had a cup appearance and try to keep. -- -- -- He's winning ways go -- I joked that -- a great job as always -- decent. -- Joseph McDonald ESPN Boston -- commodity ESPN boston.com. Now again is reactionary -- everyone's reaction on the Shaun Poland fifteen game suspension fault lines open for. 617779798376177797937. I ought to be ten that was fifteen that the reason I don't think it's that all of the top is because of -- anybody else it's thirty. But given the fact that Shawn Thornton is somebody that doesn't live and die by the cold. I'm not saying you should be happy the fifteen. I don't call. I don't know that they woods. Really any avoid -- fifty. And that arrangement -- the league has to be careful if they need to make sure they do not promote this type stuff because there are a lot of guys in the league. That if they do throw plays down the guy isn't stock consummate you know they won't stop you have to put an end to that. Which are important it was not right but I also think if you're the NHL you have to what what what that we ought to hit on Ericsson. The mindset -- an article at the park he made his mind up or that's my biggest problem or it -- in his mind up. Regardless of what happens this pockets that comes up the boards Erickson. I am -- I'm gonna. And chair of a -- at the point vegetable on step up the top of the circle and I am gonna lay -- -- out. That that's a that's a mindset trying to get rid of Italy -- trying to have some some respect him. Can we get back to that respect what may be in that situation the player says I'm -- French public is loose puck. But that. I think that's where the NHL got it wrong I thought they would but I thought they'd. And there are a lot of people would Joseph mansion in the league. That would go talk to that. Look at it and say we're trying to get rid of those type and its more than we're trying to get rid of what day. You know what his reaction was because they didn't fight any was trying to unify. His reaction was well pick out of there yet. -- in my shot my Shanahan. This wasn't enough is enough moment. You don't like the result of it. And I talent that I should be skate around thrown people the ice knocked a ball cap and that's why it was fifteen. But you know to a man around the league -- there is this technology meant that -- -- it's got to think twice. Next time he has an opportunity to take a run defense is playing and ultimately doesn't have pocketing. 61777979837617. 7797937. Taken more of your calls your show on the reaction. Yet till 8 o'clock David -- -- Sports Radio W.

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