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Salk and Holley's Four at Four - Hot Stove Edition - 12/03/13

Dec 3, 2013|

We tackle four topics around the Sox off-season and latest set of moves.

Transcript - will not be 100% accurate

-- Now word excel and Ali swollen painful rate Fuller report or ball. More fun for me. He. -- -- -- the 44 -- Marvin windows fan but what do we have. As we've been talking about the Red Sox have clearly moved on from Jarrod Saltalamacchia with the signing of AJ Pierzynski. So would you rather have Pierzynski -- the reported eight point 25 million or salty at the fourteen point one million dollar qualifying -- I think -- go with Saltalamacchia fourteen point two and that's not the -- help when I walked in here today thank you like salt. Thanks for nothing came in here. With a steadfast opinion. That red flags that mattered not at -- cracked apparently not that they should not -- spending that kind of money and not terrorists Saltalamacchia but I do agree it now. That they should have made the qualifying offer got in the draft -- and assumed he'd say no and moved on from him anyway so I don't hate the idea of paying six million dollars last for non productive catcher. Steadfast by stiffest you mean not that's it fat lady like I barely think this that I could very easily be convinced that something else. I think this question is actually a little bit harder then showed the Red Sox have extended the qualifying offer assault Omar because they should. To me that was saying no doubt are no brainer they should've done that. But not just because I wanted him at fourteen million for the one year but because of the ancillary benefits if he had said no if you get a draft pick. Or you hurt his market elsewhere and make it easier to sign him for two year deal. Or less money that he's gonna end up with somewhere else so. I think they made the mistake -- not offering the qualifying offer -- or whether or not I'd rather have Kaczynski and aid or salty at fourteen. I don't know that there's not much difference between the two guys in terms of their ability on the field but I think -- nine years younger or where it. 727 year eight years he's going to be 29 where where. -- -- going to be 37 and it is your difference that I think is at least relevance on. For that I'd rather have salty but either guy. Is a great fielding catcher both guys are at least decent hitting catchers over the course of all season and assault the didn't show that in the post season only X-Factor is who pristine -- is in this clubhouse if he doesn't screw up this clubhouse it's just one of the guys in this is the right decision. They are better off. Spending six million laps but that risk factors not something -- -- the chance Byron venture. Off. Rumors are still existing out in the hot -- world mostly by fans at this point about Q Carlos being available via trade. It seems like you'd be a natural fit here in Boston mode most likely cost a lot in return what would you realistically deal. Forced it and I just whatever you're really I mean you know I guess I would stop short of giving up the kids. I don't wanna give up the case I think he's going to be fantastic. I think -- is is is exactly what they need it. -- young cheaper there so many reasons to stick with over. But other than that I mean -- maybe it's easy for me because I don't not a Red Sox prospects dot com daily basis I watched Henry -- pitcher or somebody's -- -- its way. Keith thinks it is what you need for the future because I think that that difference maker in the middle -- order is key and of the Ortiz not going to be able to do it forever. Having some Mike Stanton whose young productive who's got huge off. I think it's one of the things that set the Red Sox apart for the better part of this decade having Ortiz having Manny Ramirez or I think that is important. But I just don't orders actually going to be available oyster boat about it coming up when it's a difficult question day. Answer because when I think of long term if I'm a pretend. General manager I'm looking for five years down the road you get a guy like Afghanistan and you're talking about eighteen years down the road. He's 23 years old. My eyes get buggy when you look at that 34 and 37 home runs and that the production that we had at the Major League level at this point. Therefore I -- team -- -- -- basically give up anything for him except for. -- young Major League ready players to this point so you're right about -- and you know but anybody else in the Red Sox farm system I give up half a dozen of -- I really I mean this is the guy who. A video made the mistake is I don't know enough about Bogart's her teen years and the etiquette -- are highly regarded. But I also wouldn't allow the fact that. They're highly regarded prospects to keep me from acquiring one of the better young power hitters in the game the one thing it's almost impossible to find. -- -- young power you're getting Albert Pujols basically to replace David Ortiz when he's done in a year 23 or whatever happens to be. And you're giving up a whole bunch question marks if media exclamation point and trade the question -- -- the fact that the Red Sox have been great in the draft they're gonna end up hopefully here with a couple of extra draft picks another reason that you should have extended the qualifier assault the yeah I I think if the kid is available I do everything I can to -- them -- the advocate for the next few years because I agree I think he could be the start here for the next decade. -- The outfield market is the only position left a lot of options Carlos Beltran Nelson Cruz Curtis Granderson. Shin-Soo -- or just a few of the players that are left out there -- the sucks can't bring back Ellsbury which of these players would you like to see them bring in. Given that list. With the knowledge I have I would go with Carlos Beltran because I I think that day he still has enough laugh. He's one of their character guys that icing. From the outside to like what I've seen from him at this point. But given that list and not knowing that they can get a -- or something like that it makes me feel like maybe they should pay through the nose for Ellsbury. Conference here so it's I a lot of people say don't go for it but if you're giving. Ellsbury is basically overpriced overrated. Because he's kind of like a poor man's Johnny Damon. Just Gary Guyton get on base play good defense steal some bases and has a little bit up he's not that guy that home run hitter that we saw for one season. But if you had Johnny Damon and at twenty million dollars a year in today's market would you be happy with that. -- -- Look at that. Depleted list sorry you know extradite if there's a guy -- is a fat yes -- I think there's a whole lot of question mark -- injury history you get. You know productive and you know that up and down Nelson Cruz I took two years ago I would say getting out in truth I'm not so convinced of that anymore. Curtis Granderson I don't know what to make him aren't here what about my guy -- Hutchinson -- sure what's your problem with you. I don't know enough about an -- in the fact that you know home run hitter that I see in this that line is pretty like him could I killed Wednesday. He's thirty years -- to -- 31 entering this year so the only question mark for me about him would be -- had one season of injury but in four of his last five years he's played a 144 or more in and three of them won 56155. And 154 so he's a gamer it's going to be out there for the most part. Every game you look at his batting average is two -- lifetime hitter and fairly consistent a few seasons at 300. One off -- he was heard at 259 but now to 83 to 85 that's about who we is. He hits. When he twenty to 1621. Home runs a year or PS last year was 85. Playing for Cincinnati and -- hitters ballpark and that helps before that Cleveland. Up over 800 you times it. Stadium Victorino in center field is that what have you with their coach it was he's not a bad defender can even place that are independent so. He's that guy where he hides a little bit of pop he can run twenty back he can steely twenty backs he's got that kind of running ability school when he last year 21 the year before that. I don't know how much it takes to get him what the market is but I think choose a pretty darn good player who would figure girl. And if the Red Sox failed to re -- Mike Napoli will would you like to see them do at the first base position. That's based. Yes you right let's throw away a little groups over there may I don't know how how deep you have to go into this free agent pool define somebody -- not -- there there's not a lot of excitement there. And so maybe just do a stop -- measure for a little while and see how things shake out like Corey Hart as a potential stopgap tree he's he's he's out there and fairly cheap because he's coming off the bad injury last year. You have novel whose potentially able to go over there and not kill you although his defense was. Not much better in the outfield certainly that was at first -- she got my car as part of a platoon. I like car plane every day all I think he I know you've got the most out of him last year because of the rule he was in the so I still think the best thing to do is to sign Mike Napoli again if he can't do that. I guess Corey Hart would be the name I would focus on you know I don't I don't love any of those options so I'm with a shrug my shoulders and say I don't know -- -- middle Brooks financing market. Now -- never actually who has played shortstop in Europe in almost suggest to you that you really do need to sign Napoli and I -- you know there's a lot of reports out there that other teams are interested in him whether we're -- Marlins and so I mean he's gonna get some offers and you're gonna have to. Pay out and get him because. That's a hole in your lineup that you can't filled with the names that we just throughout there. I don't know if you can trust not a not a I mean he had such a great year but it kind of came out of nowhere from me. Is that a one year wonder or can -- sell itself to human being and loves to play that 300 hitter he's reliable clutch guy because he was amazing last as I thought. And I kept waiting for you know days. A little bit of a drop off at some point and it never paid that what I liked about him and car and the rest of those guys Victor Reno even is that I think John Ferrell uses them all to the best of their ability and that's the reason. Why Farrell gets the credit for for what happened this year he juggled guys in a way to get the most out of them. Playing the numbers riding the hot hand using who was going to give them the best opportunity to win and don't you say are you got to have talent when you do we've also got to put that talent in their best positioned to do with they're capable of and I think that's what that's what Ferrell did. So well this year and I think you get it would not -- those guys price more than anyone but. -- -- I don't know that he's -- -- seem like a 116 teams in in left field right field or -- -- right I could and then first bases he's. He's will be iffy but he -- will will little Brooks it was your shortstop Brent I mean as of right now don't you have to play the kid at short and Stephen Drew is not here yeah I'm so glad that this is December. And right that time the Red Sox don't have a team right now we're -- plant Saturn player purchase when short third I mean it's -- it's sure there's Pedroia at second got that I think that's the kind of fun thing here is that even though there's been a lot of movement so far on the on the free agents stopped a couple of trades in the last few days. There's still a lot of guys out there and and we'll talk to Jim Bolden a series XM former GM coming up here in fifteen minutes he gave his state not only on Pierzynski salty. But also what the Red Sox are are still out there looking for who they should be interstate and the -- Beltran doesn't -- -- but he doesn't. Maybe it's just that he feels like. The obvious Red Sox beat market target guy -- towards the end of his career but puts up some numbers. Has done most of it not all that but most of that the National League it. It's not that I think he's batted. But that's for -- mean you can get what you can do for five years I think you don't have any interest in and I don't want that -- -- bank I think -- dropped down. From superstar status to a whole new level he's down a leveler too. But he steady there and you can count on him being a good ball player who contribute in different weight on a different day his numbers are good you know I don't I don't wanna -- on a guy's got good numbers and they don't believe -- my deal but there's something -- -- something about the idea. Of the Red Sox signing him. It just doesn't quite compute with it or with all the strides they seem to make here this year in the over the past year in getting away from that line of think.

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