Sep 28, 2013|
The Patriots are in Atlanta for Sunday Night Football and many questions still linger concerning the team including the health of star tight end Rob Gronkowski. Chris and Butch also take a look at the effect of Wes Welker in the Denver offense and the impact on the Patriots so far this season.
Butch Stearns, Fred Smerlas and Steve DeOssie discuss the Patriots comeback win over Cleveland and the loss of Rob Gronkowski for the season.
The guys finish up their breakdowns on what to expect today at Gillette and give their pick for a winner.
Curran calls the boys live from Gillette to break down today's game against the Browns. He thinks Cleveland will be a much tougher opponent than most. He also gets into the Ridley situation and if the Pats will look to sign Edelman.
The NFL Sunday gang go "Around the NFL" and look at all the games and story lines heading into Week 14.
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WEEI dot comes Christopher price gonna join us momentarily to get the latest on go wrong and some other things. Right back to the calls let's go to Jack in a car real quick carjacked. And I don't want good. A -- -- or anything but I love sports I look washed sports and the only comment that I may well outpacing your baseball documents secret question question. When you look at the question is but let me preface the question is who would you rather see the Red Sox play next Friday. A five game series starting at Fenway and here's what I wanna -- to -- when I look at Tampa Cleveland and Texas right. And right now tampering Cleveland are tied in Texas is one game back and they're winning right now. Here's their records think about this whoever's coming here. Texas is seven and three in their last ten Cleveland is nine and one in Tampa Bay and eaten too shall Webber comes here is -- DM good -- Article that is the only guy like say they beat the child -- or a huge believer and I -- and I do not want faced the Indians. On one of these indeed just that reason I love stories. While Francona back here. That chip business and it -- -- it -- -- greats -- the game what -- or what's on your -- about welcome -- Well I -- -- -- it is true in Norman does and an -- business would do. We're I would aren't so sure we got a building does Kate and Leo. Mortgage companies are very successful and good -- Very very lucky but but this is science and and pin and not exports and -- so big strong business ally I'm. And port. And when I look at it that way at all poppy and when dealing with people I acutely respect Bill Belichick. That report -- between three books that are out. To my kids and my musical preparation. Focus discipline or one -- from the other one to -- at that time picture which particular. That stopped. Crack the crack some will dispute yet you know that they've been spent at. This is what -- try to -- is that that is what I haven't heard articulated. It's not as Bill Belichick is as good -- One on what that relationship will welcome the way I -- and we did everybody find themselves now. It is unfortunate and and now what I -- and I regret the need you more than any. -- and in -- system refusal would net that you know something went on and and people and that's the thing because I felt my business. And like that we -- people leave an unfortunate. That we switch. Or my Brothers. And and not relation with a company deteriorated and keep good people. So let me ask your question Jack since you brought up the business analogy let's finish were discovered at Chris price waiting on the line. Have you ever let a key employee go because the retreat that you ideally if you took feelings in the relationship aside. He really didn't want to let him -- -- is likewise guys -- good performer for us to this woman's a good performer for us. I've yet to let somebody go similar the Welker situation because he had no choice because the relationship deteriorated your. But not Null and -- 03 times it's it it's and that that that -- that -- that -- and the rest which got. For the good book business product like considerable based on what I say what's important diplomatic. So you think in your opinion are you trying to say that you think -- check changed what it's built. What's fundamental to Norman and really there's some them behind the scenes here that that he wasn't willing to swallow hard enough to keep Welker. I bet ya -- -- I think he's a rigid guy. Adams he EI TF and and it got to beat you you you got to be flexible. Well it's a good call Jack in its -- to criticism come after you who started by praising Belichick and reading the books and talent -- your kids and all this and that but you also think that his Achilles heel might be. His rigid news outlets bringing Christopher price WEEI dot com Chris got a lot of things I want a happy -- but let's start there with Welker we clearly know. But this is a story is -- and fans' minds it's going to be ongoing all year long it's going to be week eleven. When Welker comes in here with the Broncos you look at that broncos' offense right now and oh my goodness Peyton Manning has. You know this emerging tight end to marry is Thomas who's -- east. On the outside Eric Decker who knows what he has but only does produce when he's out there and all by the way Wes Welker I mean this story's never gonna end this year is it. -- it will it and it is vulnerable right up until week eleven and in it -- quite frankly you know it will -- in week eleven when I would welcome the Broncos -- -- but it I agree -- I think -- that it never -- and they think it it's more -- Welker against the patriots we are fair or not going to be measuring. Welker against him go through the rest of the year right physically and you know that the numbers -- also put that probably have heard him go look because. You know -- Go to going to win this system mediocre guy and you know kind of muted but it is what it looked at this point so. On the yeah I I I heard the caller Jack talked about the before I think it's a burger or will admit that it clearly went so between the two of them -- point. Whether it last year the year before. It into copper bowl I think and I think that. It's it's the shape of football they'll say that to the football fan -- in my mind there was no more symbiotic relationship. Between a superstar of the team that putrid and what walker -- with people fight. In my mind the one spot you could have brought other than New England. To really do on YouTube and that's tempered and we all. So do you agree with me that there could have been room on this team relationship aside and all things being equal. Had they been willing to spend the money on him and keep him. Do you agree with me that there could have been room for both. Welker and Amendola and let me add one other factor that part of my opinion -- -- is based on the first game of the year when I saw him Angola. And settlement on the field at the same time and being productive the other thought to myself why couldn't that in Yemen dollar and Welker. I think it -- work I'm I'm not saying it would have been you know sustainable over the long term goal when you you look at. What they've done here with position where our fiscal two players ops they found a way to make. True talented skilled position players the same time the -- pitch -- noted that there were different guys you know you look at their neighbors -- out to. That we go -- -- through. Who worked together in noise out. Well when they're healthy optically vehicle archer recently -- -- -- -- an inning no it apple port visits to -- positions but they are. I think it would have waited a coworker -- I think that -- you look at them on paper and airport and put them traitors here slot receivers. But you know you can move him -- around the topic you can move Welker around -- -- all but -- again I think in the long term. I don't know how sustainable would have been but it but I think that they would of council late to make -- I Christopher price is joining rushing go to WEEI dot com click armed patriot to get all the patriots coverage you need but let's do the work for them if they're driving their cars and listening today Chris. But camera a couple of quick things Rob Gronkowski you right -- -- dot com that the team was the most is questionable. For Sunday's game we also reference. And ESPN report to both -- -- gronkowski Amendola are quote not expected to play. Sunday night Jeff how the Boston Herald according to a source says the team and gronkowski are divided. And their opinions give us your feet -- insight on that which is a little bit disturbing. I I don't know quarry there -- ever a question really you requested in this situation there and fought in their minds it's used not -- ago. I don't either this situation where you need to you know hurry back but you know. This is not think -- emergency -- clutch situation this is not a conference game of the division in the real. You're feeling pretty good about where you are if this -- the couple weeks down the road in replaced by Armenian vote in front defeated. You'll meet you got a situation where you don't need this typical Robinson look -- age -- I think that report every game is important is only sixteen but I think you're talking Barbary coast particularly this year. You have to understand that some snaps or more important than others. And I think that you don't you don't want to risk having their -- we entered -- and it seemed like it so typical you know maybe taping the offer. But what do but what you're alluding to Chris is what when I first heard rumors of the story are linking people talked about it. Talk to myself well -- wants to play he's -- in the patriots don't want him to play but Jeff how reporting is the other way around. Do exactly yet it yet we're -- guy I -- I couldn't stay in reply. Brought into a neck and understand why is is inner circle is feeling the way they are because they're they're they're saying look to aid I think that their argument that they're that there may -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- that they're making in this situation that looked. We you know this this this is not the kind of view where you should be put pressure Iraq combat IR or longer that are. Open that it right here. It it it just think that they again. -- you use the term managing reps because that connotes a wooden is in the top players software. In that couldn't be further from the truth we're talking about how you wait you please but. I think particularly when you're talking about a guy coming off. Heart surgery is out for you with the policy -- how did you and untold amount of a trauma and -- says that it's -- -- the local level trauma nobody. You Lolita or possibly -- ready. You know I mean if you and we don't know which you'll you'll -- when you when. Boiled it down to review the that we don't know pretty -- but but I I think if there's even a question but it even took the plate since he's not ready. It is not the week Tuesday impeccable. I'm only whipped through a couple of other quick things that you're having your ten things you have to know about the patriots falcons. On your blog and -- -- go to the receivers announcements were on there would grow on him. The Los Welker and all that stuff from one of the things you point -- is a matchup with Kimbrel Tompkins and Desmond Trufant might my broader question is it seemed to me that they started the game last week targeting Aaron Dobson. Almost wanting him. Of had six catches at halftime being involved in the offense may be open up things. For for other guys did you feel the same way and if you do will be try to do the same thing with either Tompkins or Dobson or somebody else will boys get the ball how do you think they're gonna come out. On strategy wise on offense this week. -- first of all your point about that it would be I think that was true for a couple of reasons but I think nick and apple look at it in context because it helped him lining up most of the time in -- and -- think that in order to at least to governor -- going to mr. -- -- mr. replicates the matchup is beatable on. It in -- to get more involved in the offensive and there ain't that mister mister all the kind of see what you get in that situation at the tip it neutral about it may predict marketers are pretty good. I do think that the Thompson's. Troops -- matchup in the winnable -- the putrid speakers Trufant and -- -- struggle over the course the year I think that the situation. Marcus his brother. Yeah I they're they're related. But I'm not a 100% sure all the -- -- -- I know we wrote something on him that is part of the draft profile without from the late now but if -- related early. I think that we were collector for the patriots for for a couple reasons not the least of which conference is really displayed. A -- -- level look for pressure these first three weeks I think is his first week quite frankly you're overwhelmed I think it showed what confidence. It wasn't decisive in the running in connecting. When you go back if you look at his performance are looking for. Performance I think the last couple which I think there's been a lot more decisive that it is a lot more conscious of very think. Back to previous gold to a -- -- -- number occasions I think that triggers into what we always do that during its territory in cheap but we or whether we -- are pretty confident that their erecting. When you look at. Cops and in particular go back and you look at that pretty. Rooted love bird for the seven catches for. Including one at fort and I think that represents you or talk about the progression of -- -- I think that represented what looked. They're going to rookie moments throughout this and Kirstie I'm not. You weren't attracted these two guys to stumble that that it and they're gonna continue to stumble. But I think you can trust the process incorporated -- hatred that you trust the process. If you look at -- I think you guys by the end of the year vote pretty good luck. Couple last things Chris first of all we love Google. We looked it up markets and our Brothers and Desmond and they had a brother in between them Isaiah Trufant. Former defense -- for the Arizona -- was of the arena football all you need to know about the true fonts and more. Marcus by the way born on Christmas Day so they. Let's all the other side of the ball because the more I think about this game we always think about Tom Brady in the offense but clearly this is the the toughest test for the defense. And then you start thinking about cornerbacks in the back commend. Linebackers in the middle and the guys put pressure Solis talked about Chandler Jones and Aqib Talib specifically you right again in your blog. On ten things you need to know about the patriots falcons about Chandler Jones against the falcons offensive line they're gonna -- -- pressure from him and. It really well I think it in the fat city that -- -- for a couple of different reasons first weeks in sick and that he's at that tackle spot and deliberately each and every time -- moved in there. About him and being able the first. Gripping the cup replica of really -- to push the little like in the repute prominently these events if it's allowed them to delete. Put some pressure on opposing offenses reporting offensive line up and worried you know -- awaited release capital last year. I looked a dispute that you know Italy and hypocrite team owner with a team that -- -- impressive group of skill position player to earn that right. Setup that weren't struggle -- -- If I think that. -- and encourage. -- -- -- Who can at least on paper project. Bird would be against a relief to be is that layout and the -- what do -- think and talk to -- -- The other thing. She told me outline -- was if you let him step up in the pocket he's going to be the complete throws that true or expert. If you get -- moving from side to side and shut down first read that when the expert for the bad -- It's interesting because that that's the difference I think course subtle difference between a guy like Ryan and Brady. A guy like Aaron Rodgers Aaron Rodgers is more dangerous on the run time. Exactly exactly you know Brian is is very comfortable back there in the pocket you operate for either it would -- so you got to make them and make a month. -- the Connecticut part of that you know in part that it universal all quarterbacks but but you go back and you look at the film that really true -- if you get -- moving side by the book is stepping into -- Then that's the first step the other step it. It looked -- credit card you'll. Here carry on that that the question the one requesting your talks with believable. I think they're gonna use to -- this week in much the same way to use them lest we can it would break -- -- -- -- exclusive shutdown corner is gonna get help over the -- but I think. It will be the kind of guy who let you know classic shut -- corner but it is great matchup pretty. Opposition longest in -- -- -- most critical workers last week that was and -- in the furloughed since Jackson. This week that's going to be Lyoto and -- think that again good good people over the top in the form that -- or against duke burger and some other -- but I think. They're old they're gonna break the huddle and it's going to be a lead against Jones and that's going to be really wanted to premiere matchup that -- long way toward determining which. Do you I personally like to remember the Ty Law days are like when they had. A defense saying hey this is our best guy who would match up against your -- -- To me it's a proactive response there's a message that sent -- defense that said there are some risks without. Because you guide got cars run and over the field and you can create some miss matches you can create some picks. And things you do like to meet personally. I like it's it's -- dollar check and the powers that be telling us he's our best guy he's going against their basket. Yeah I wanted it to -- -- remember that he's not hired law -- again he's the guy who is going to go get cute aka. Really an article it's like ritual way. You know waiting in a corporate what -- what he used to be good Mormon guy to go up against those speaker long physical receivers against -- chart last week that extra forty -- battle the prototype of a that the kind of guy that featured. And here to go protest because. -- if if if they happen to be the main thing that's great with but let let you know I guarantee you not our fault in the situation that think it's very important. I think typically is gonna win this game. To be able to get production in the passing game photo. Other than Julio Jones I think when you look at the soccer impacting your degree heat and a lot of options there you go our -- about Roddy White and and Tony Gonzales and and economic player but I think their. There's some guys are prepared to work the guys are really like everything what did you do to him because you know look back -- a veteran running back. -- couldn't talk to all of bush to speak -- vote them passing game in the running so boat kind of multi dimensional guys and real threat for the future of struggle sometimes become the afterward mutual respect and and so I think -- the -- feel good about to leave Jones match up. But B if -- falcon -- who exploit some of that. The dual position in in the still commissioners I think they're gonna look at that there's an -- reported. Chris final comment about. An article you write about the pictures running game on its title group effort -- history tells about patriots and running back by committee make a very etched in point your article that they've had three. Different leading rushers. In the first three games and now with the guys that are helping you talking about Ridley would -- blonde and Brandon Bolden. And one of the things we saw last week is that they bring three. Different skill sets and the different packages. To the table do you expect it to be running back by committee this Sunday night and how important is the running into this particular. I do I think it's going to be running back by committee and it I had imported -- get the majority areas but I think -- going to be running back by committee editing old and -- -- seem. Valued -- Chamberlain did it in terms of being the multi dimensional guy who can -- in the running pupil because. 170 catches collegiate so you can be. Actual content but I think it's going to be more -- than anything I think. One of the night and it's a last week for what was not -- digital input you've got to be essentially quote that you guys who was kind of in their record -- -- market received about record he'll he'll count those. Really tough yards in the fourth order to complete the clock and cooperative pretty good run of it later got one of the better run defense in the -- and I think what the patriots look at the -- to unclog a little bit just enough. To allow guys like. Old and to some extent cattlemen who is off to -- wanted to start -- career investors in the last decade record here. -- how can conduct since in in the piece of work from the -- integrity you just wanna -- in and out of the running game going freed up some. The single option and on the outside forgot like political and options. So I did you think you're gonna player pork brought into going to be complementary roles in the greens they are -- -- simply of people on the. When it comes to Ridley. Chris I mean I know his numbers and when asked about receptions. Why they don't throw him -- four point didn't noting college judges look at it is college numbers. Killing at seventeen catches only last week when he caught that one company thinking about it it's always tends to section three years. An NFL but when I look at Ridley. And he looks the part of a guy you can catch the ball out of the backfield and the thing that I kick it out of my mind is oh my goodness if you can get him the ball and open space. On my goodness. Yet this is that nobody good. You know I mean it's it's one thing that how a guy like that and how the guy who I think -- -- look at a young backs legal department -- -- for 12100 guard Lester I think. But he has some potential would be. -- stretching -- the actual vote when you have. Really when you -- Serena of old and an achievement you'll go recollect your would would that was spiritual and you'll -- Balkan peninsula here. You want a legal guys straight I think -- -- Specifically when they're talking about the running and I think when he talked about Wrigley and working as you can do it. But I think in the long would you have guys on that -- for better suited to that role in it let him focus on border between the tackles and they're going to be B -- order -- -- secure. So Chris here's what I think's gonna happen on Sunday night I'd love to hear your prediction I think they're gonna come out on offense and try to run the football. I think they think they wanna do that I would love I don't think they're gonna do this but I would love to see them do that I would love to see them go deep. A couple times early -- with cool weather to boys are Dobson or whatever I just would love to see that. To say to Atlanta hey we haven't done this for three games we're gonna do it. I think if they are effective running the football I think they can win this football game I think if they get stopped on the run. -- a couple of turnovers and I think they lose this game so I'm not sure which way it's gonna go but that's my. IQ can -- -- -- which first of all of falcon one of the best in the league for quarter points. They're they're they're -- they're -- 31 of the first quarter point differential. Of which is one of the which is tied for the cheap I would achieve about the Little League but the patriots. How all realize how to. Did not only people -- zero point fourth quarter. The falcons have only the -- -- the old record pinpoint where -- Including being so that you could get all our early in the I think we have the potential to make it interest in late the other interesting thing is. -- for the worst in league is going up and well the the falcon one of the worst teams quick read that piece of the -- -- able to convert in the red though they're able to get seven point three points or turn the ball over inside the twenty. Figured that the cute orbit the public injured were brought to every week for going. Particularly true victory in his district incumbent up against three pretty good. -- last point of perspective I'd like to comment on the some people think they might get blown out Sunday night. You know because they haven't played tough opponents and defense will get exposed in the offense won't be able to score like he used to. If that's the case I'm trying to figure the last game where they. Sort of manhandled and I can't remember when they were blown out but the Seattle game. Last year even though they only lost by one point kind of stands out to me because they were so inept in the red zone with what they did. I don't know trying to think -- the last time that they were just really just. Well I I won't go -- in -- -- public between now and then but that you felt marrying game in dual. For me it out of the last Elian. Yes the last and the one on the road in a typical situation and really didn't have a good sense aware that what they were good -- Seventeen of -- are up and I'm looking at a 3817. And not only would guy came if you remember. They were down 24 to ten. At halftime. Yeah is that that army was the last time that. Record remember team in this kind of situation were generally don't really know good -- -- you know that kind of a litmus test the economic gain get a good teacher -- is that where they -- at this point -- -- they're really -- the last that would be -- -- him he just got. Won't say -- it looked -- doors blown off in it was just with the -- all the rounds. All of I don't think it's going to be the same kind of situation because they think that you don't mind seeing it was better than the Atlantic in our -- I believe in women that you ultimately I think the -- -- to equip themselves very well they think. Come Monday we're going to be -- directors they argue that eclipsed. Still we we could go to the first game first opener what do we get inequality -- complete pretty well the law so. I I think the delay is gonna win this game but I think when you look at the resonated defense at the end here at this critical in order for it to. But it took a real growing quick real evolution in the -- -- Several techsters point out the San Francisco game last year and it is true they trailed at the end of the third quarter. 31 -- and they scored 244 quarter points. Yeah it'll affect our respect for me. In this is something I stole the jury that they get the look out this year on a metal cup. I think that you got nineteen what are the most mentally we came -- the pitchers. Electric heater so I think let your team showed the mental toughness and coming back and couldn't get back into that game. You know when things were there and so I I think is that it Europa orbiter really do I think this sets up with a very tricky -- not just you -- Small picture one game I think it's game is gonna tell a lot about where this team is what's fueling his ball out of the -- Our Chris you'll -- -- tomorrow morning with dale on the -- right. Okay and and tomorrow night I'll be here will be following on WEEI dot com Steve Fred and I'll be watching the game and then. Have the real post game show after the game tomorrow night good stuff Chris. Okay Christopher price if Bynum on WEEI dot com we're gonna take a break when we come back your phone calls and talk a little. Elliptical baseball when we come back I want to talk about the Red Sox post season chances we'd prefer to play. Pitching matchups. Line -- we think's gonna come up big in the playoffs come -- play a baseballs coming our way the end of this week and talk about Robinson from no and his contract demands -- for Gucci was on a witness who could replace some comments he had. About. What baseball owners might be thinking going forward with the way the Red Sox did business with -- current -- he's. We're back with more after this Craig -- -- taking your calls I'm -- Stearns this is WEEI.
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