Aug 29, 2013|
In the debut edition of the WEEI WrestleCast we break down the current events in the WWE. What happened at SummerSlam, Daniel Bryan, HHH, The Shield, CM Punk, Paul Heyman, and AJ Lee. We are also joined by Sean Grande.
FOXBORO -- WEEI.com's Mike Petraglia and Chris Price preview the Patriots and Dolphins. The Pariots will win the AFC East with a win.
FOXBORO -- WEEI.com's Mike Petraglia and Chris Price break down New England's miraculous 27-26 win over the Browns at Gillette Stadium.
David Ortiz talks about Jacoby Ellsbury leaving Boston for New York and Robinson Cano's monster contract in Seattle.
FOXBORO -- WEEI.com's Mike Petraglia and Chris Price preview the upcoming game between the 9-3 Patriots and the 4-8 Browns Sunday at Gillette Stadium.
Automatically Generated Transcript (may not be 100% accurate)
Hello and welcome everybody -- Debut edition of the WEI. Or wrestle cast I'm your host Scott -- confidant joined by in my. Co host extraordinaire and kitchen door. Otherwise known as young Ben producer from salt can holly toot his sixth Monday through Friday Iran WE out what's up that. You are right amateurs and -- and yes very much extraordinary. Producer on air talent for four. Fantastic work now. Today we are introducing a brand new concept here and WEEI dot com we thought it was an untapped market the pro wrestling market. We know there are a lot of you out there in the Twitter sphere in the FaceBook. Whatever you call -- area that. The faced with everything is -- Harry. Are looking professional wrestling fans -- VWE. Maybe TNA maybe independence. Will be honest were probably a little more towards WW -- but as the show progresses into the future results may be branch out a bit more. And first of all let's get a quick background on our are wrestling -- miss that exist inside of us. Out for me. I never watching at the kitchen table when I was about six -- seven years old little tiny and cited Steve the watching I believe it was fox affiliate showing dividend at superstars on Saturday mornings. Relations for a monster truck. Right yeah great digger would come out when you knew the rest your senator was shot before the app before that and after some cartoons in -- wrestling a pop out. I didn't really know what I was watching but that in turn off. Fast forward couple years later 969798. I started to you know it is my friends in middle school we're talking about wrestling I god watch that before so I never putting -- on one Monday night. And this is more a flash bowl memory that really got me hooked but it was a Monday night -- had to have been early ninety and -- -- said it's whatever raw. The top of the new wage outlaws. I'll locked. Cactus Jack and chains such Charlie otherwise known as Mick Foley and Terry funk in -- dumpster 1990 and push them. Off the stage. And that was me gone. Wow -- -- possibly keep watch in this Lou is that right after rustling of fourteen they had that match that rhythm and luckily that helped lead to wrestle -- our team which -- was a dumpster match between the outlaws. And dot cactus Jack Mick Foley also. Going along with that as another event. Probably right in that same time spam Foley. And funk had a match -- and Charlie to achieve such Charlie cactus Jack at the time. Had a match to main event raw probably -- on the same time early 98. And they went all over the arena and that is ridiculous match that's another one that I was like I was pretty cool -- keep watching this meant you know meanwhile I'm. Still eleven at the time. No way I should be watching when I'm watching. But my parents and pay attention. -- either so. Not to worry about that Dallas sort of that was sort of a couple flash -- for me and that -- to -- many of fourteen which unfortunately I was not aware enough to know that it was in Boston didn't attend. And then the first paper view that I ordered. And I probably ordered 90% of the sense tailoring 98 we all know what happened that that we don't have to really go over that but that's kinda what got me going. Except for the little. And of high school early college years of downtime because that's. Let's be honest there's going to be a downtime watching pro wrestling it's going to be at that point in her life. Late juniors seniors -- senior I got a cool anymore right in and freshman -- of college you're trying to go out and do other things. But I got back into it and then press is. And not try to look like a -- and from -- and I realized I don't care among they don't know is not about announced network. But you bet I got into wrestling. Late eighties. My dad was into wrestling when he was growing up so he remembered. Gorgeous to virgin killer Kowalski in haystack Calhoun says you know as Tommy the stories -- -- shall we really old VHS tapes of this. And didn't -- gets in my older brother was wrestling you know those. Those like. Ten inch. Non mobile wrestling figures iron she can. You know I don't -- buddies up not not those -- pillow wrestle buddies that amendment 1990. But yet those I don't know who made them but I think they're so laying around our house somewhere. But I got in. About and I was really young I was maybe 45. And it was shortly after. Hogan's slammed Andre wrestling history. I remember I didn't see it live and I didn't have cable growing up and so I was in junior high so I missed the first couple years of fraud and nitro and finally got cable. Was one and W -- to start. Summer of 96. It'd just started about going to -- the sixth or seventh grade. And that's going to cable finally got to really watch base but I was like you I was watching WW superstars growing up and and there and when I look back on now you know how the -- socked. Nothing ever happened on it. Maybe three or four matches. Two or three of them were squats matched squash matches -- the local guy are just some. Jumper like the Brooklyn brawler sorry if you're listening -- glorified job glorified -- Steve needs a face to the fan favorite though. And media had won the some type of storyline match -- for the most part you go back and go on YouTube and you search old superstars. Yeah you just want. What am -- watching it was a lot of interviews like the brother -- show. A lot of that kind of crap I was very good that it was mortar at the time is more based surrounds. The oceans at the time there was good pass that -- ago beluga yet. At the time I was engaged but when I watch announce a much more. We get more bang for our buck we get now it's kind depressed combatants. That week weeks ago. How such a different era and you know people make a look back and eighties wrestling and say it's boring because this'll slower paced in the lot of rest tolls and things of that nature but you know back in the eighties that is what. Wrestling was so yeah it's hard to look back and and raids types of things -- since that obviously we. Grew up in the heyday of falling off the top of latter's and threw tables and off of cells and things of that nature. If you think about that's it if you told somebody in the eighties was a wrestling fan that that's what's gonna happen it probably to shake their heads at what are you talking about who would do that the. In the eighties it was still based on. Yeah sort of want a briefcase debut. Were. Still under the impression that it was real competitors and none -- it's -- main command says -- sports entertainment and like 99. -- Anyone admit to it being sick so when you look back on and realize put it in that context it's still quote real. Those matches have a more. Realistic nature to them where they're brawling in the way -- I'm tired and out but I got -- and choke holds on gonna lean on your take more energy out of use so. There's a balance to it that you if you're going into it to watch and all the event. Understand that and you'll enjoy it farm. So talked about a bit about her our backgrounds in the in the wrestling. Realm. More about the show obviously we're gonna come on. We want to but dish about what's going on India current events of professional wrestling which might be. A little bit title Monday night raw that happened this past Monday or summer slam that happen a couple weeks ago what's coming up like. The night of champions paper view we also want to bring on a special guest. Every week and it today we have a very special guest coming up a little bit later on on the she'll be joined by Sean grandy who. Many you know first ball the Celtics radio play by play announcer also spending his summer this year. Announcing Red Sox games in. More importantly though a huge and and we might sound like big wrestling guys but mr. grandy. Is probably a walking encyclopedia of knowledge a professional wrestling and he can depth and that he can talk talk for a while about it it's great. You can't get shut up. A -- -- those years he knows what he's talking about he understands this business he's our friends in the business he's been a big man and he's one of those guys that admits to being a big fan even uses professional broadcast surfer. Celtics and -- out he tweets about admits that he loves it. And many people who know me know that. I wanna be somewhat of a shot grainy type in terms of make big time play by play guy in the NBA or Major League Baseball and once I learned that he. It's got a couple years ago what I learned that he was out of it wrestling guy who cares how -- -- go for me to you know likens the Olympic wrestling not hide it -- I've lost many its Twitter follower on Monday night but many have stuck with me -- wanna think. All 1000. Two I don't remember but. Hey it's over a thousand that's pretty unit and were both of those that already now be able to get 1500 people so that sat act young Ben WEEI. And I'm patsy to cops if you can't spell my last name just look up you know underneath the description figured out pretty easy at that at. So that's sort of operate out of the show and also. At the end of the shows. It's gonna be more an open ended segment of the show kind of we thought that almost will be just -- minutes ago which is kind of going back and forth to the to a bus talking about our thoughts of rustling. And maybe as we get near eighty survivors streets that if you review -- royal rumble and even wrestle mania. Will go back -- to view -- events and give us give you our take on things in the past. And also leading up to show as we wanna hear from you on Twitter or FaceBook or however you wanna get in contact with -- just -- your Twitter. Handles as they -- in the business. Let us know what instrument is what they call in it is business. As so -- Tripoli which. Feeling get us on Twitter let us know if you have any ideas of any topics you wanna talk about if you have a question for us to honest answer as the show progresses again this is the debut addition. A VWE EI a Russell cast for so we thank you for listening hope you haven't turned us off yet. But the repeated debut additional analyst -- the fans and the listeners and try to get your input as well let's be shaped symbol to show it's much like a big mound of clay. Right the fact that they've given us this opportunity. To blow oh really okay. Now we got to run with its big mound of clay which one was -- was in which was Demi Moore in ghost. I'm -- adds I'm not gonna touch that moving on moving up okay. So let's get right to our first part of the showed a lot of really dive into and that was out -- and a drop from this past Monday. And this is the fallout from the summer slam is still. In I know you have some thoughts on how Monday night Rob Lowe went down specifically. Daniel Bryan obviously is the main the main storyline Daniel Bryan. Vs the world. Purses AAA interest radio orders the shield vs Stephanie. Mr. McMahon. All of that -- they put data O'Brien in somewhat of a gauntlet match. On -- this past Monday against the shields. And I know you have some thoughts on that some I didn't really liked. And I am I'm not a big fan of that. Because you know that. When when you put someone -- don't match you know that they're gonna when the first two at least if it's like -- you have to go through three people and then you get your opportunity it's stupid or what they have best lot of -- false matches. That's the three stages of very matter releases they broke that -- -- of course worked in about two three and then someone just wins the first two and it's over. Which. It normally should be -- split and then whoever wins wins but I do like that the -- but if you win the first two. But in Scotland match. I I was. Highly annoyed because they entered it at the beginning of the show and automatically time it happened was that -- -- friend was going to be the first to potentially be the third I didn't know. You know they set it up saying that for she's gonna fight. -- Rollins then dean amber rose and then Roman rains. And you know that he's going to be the first. It's given. You know there's some dogs and miscarried and into the third. Am not a big fan that gives you you're telling me you wrote me a blueprint of what you're gonna do at the end of the show. But not in a way that I'm thinking. I got to see this because I don't know what they're gonna do. I knew what they were gonna do on a hole. I just didn't know of the intricacies of how finishes were going to be but I figured there's going to be some GQ's. And that's the only way to protect shield. In an away if you're watching this on DD to argue could. Just fast forward through -- to get to that point we're all some of the DQ happens and a storyline progresses but at the very least though the match to Dan O'Brien Seth Rollins and I know all the inner independent Internet. Darling people are good at -- the Smart -- -- vs Tyler blacker col below and that's his real name col below that's -- status does -- you tonight. I got a lot of tweets on Monday night. Thrown out O John Moxley is gonna Russell Brian Daniels say it in Tyler black I am who I -- I know who they are I know that's their independence. But. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Hey John Moxley if I go screw you put my name that's this being marketed as dean Ambrose. Is I'm gonna make my if he's in it for some money which. Let's be honest dollar for a little bit of money. He's in it for the money some money in some marketing. You want to call dean Ambrose not John Moxley not his real name Jonathan good outlook the stuff up on -- -- and I figured tiger -- of -- and I don't know city rather it was just the Honda says it was without just bothering me and I just. I just don't just call them by the name is there on TV with. This is the program your watching you don't watch friends and today Jennifer Aniston got -- a glimmer of Rachel did this to. -- can believe it is for a -- of France. And now pilots quickly just get off that topic but it -- garage. Rollins and Brian. Had a good match and you knew going in I'll be on -- and ever since I've never seen it either independent matches so I was very excited to see is -- knew that they had a good track record. Apparently and it was it delivered -- good spots. It great match and then that -- your -- the -- type of thing. Now first match was really really good don't get me wrong I I. I enjoyed the process of it I thought it was well done I just I was kind of an excellent new lows. Right. You know this whole thing triple -- or radio or at first -- -- You have to ignore. The past between now and you always have to ignore the -- yes. Eight pro wrestling you have to ignore the past and I always one of the main things I talked about with myself for anybody who listened is to meet one year. In wrestling and wrestling so let's say it's August it's -- thirteen. Let's go back to August of 2012 to meet that's like three years. In yeah wrestling there's so much that happens in a year. Every single day every Monday every Monday debuts area not just that everything -- -- big show turns when he'll -- show flip flops three times a year. Between baby face and he'll. Three at least three times -- -- I go back if the rights it's close. To first ball. Think about and that sets a triple H and -- have their huge but had many feuds but the last one was wrestle mania 254. Years ago in real time. But in my weird math like -- twelve years ago. Such a long time ago when. Borden handcuffed triple H to the ring ropes and then it. I think it was DDT Stephanie the sect you know that that patented DDT and then did this really creepy. Hover over her. And like kiss. Tripoli freaking out watching. You -- to ignore that could apparently they've let's you know that's no you know what we tried to kill kill my life. And you know pretty almost killed me -- probably try to do that but you know it's cool you might champion that it's just no business ignore that part. They're now friends. Stephanie hug to. Hug drill our government not completely friend's -- Tripoli to couple weeks -- last week it said. I don't necessarily get along with this guy but. It's good for business I do like this whole it's good for business angle and I'd like the way they're restructuring. Basically -- corporation. In the and that's what xxx I been saying for the last couple of years as they brought a mod TV. As as it has a corporate. Characters well number two years ago he was the GM of raw in the whole walk out he's supposed to be a good guy. This entire time exposed to minute a baby face head honcho type of guy. But he just never comes off -- one. The one thing I remember two years ago or six years in my rustling time line. He said that if they have a walk out in his comment was. I don't care if all the guys are out there all the match with a broomstick it'll give me a better match than most you guys out there and I think he'll comments. So now it's great that is great that he is now that that's what he is he just he's better as that it's not be. -- blue blooded. Go on corporate hunters exactly corporate guy and that leads to a comment that he had about Randy Orton. And about the the Cadillac -- the escalade that he bought him. I thought that was great when mr. -- yes yes that played very good. He said that. I've bought this escalade. I gave it it's my personal property. I gave it to Randy Orton. That every -- league championship is my personal property. Randy says holding onto it for me and I think. You and -- different sides of the II like that because. Yeah I know a lot I know maybe your point is it's just dead -- maybe out of devalues hitter you know it's no I think he's just being the be able. That he is supposed to be. And racists like however I -- all the money you're gonna cart and champ big deal but like here he says it is holding onto it. He's gonna help me hold onto it forever that's the obvious the plan so -- trainees along for the ride in -- looks at a total jerk at the point right. Absolutely and it worked I wasn't a huge fan and and as you'd explain to me since then. In I get and I like it a little bit more and more as I really think about it. I really like the direction of the witnesses don't because I thought grandeur and I'm not the biggest turn your fan. I think stinks on the Mike for the most part on his -- delivers a little too slow. Which makes him. More suited as a heel which makes up armor suited as you know I think -- a boring scene babyface. Is much better Ezekiel. And I like this where he doesn't have to talk that much he can kind of just be menacing and walk around. -- that's slow plodding villain in a movie. Type character. But I like having him partnered up and being this quote. Face of the company. Under. Triple h.'s guidance -- And I don't think anybody can argue this point you put radio or next to Daniel Bryan and you look at the two of them. I don't care what business you work can he say which guy. Do you want to be your face of the company's specialty and wrestling we got to be honest and Randy Orton has at all okay. I mean not to get too deep -- -- he looks like a professional wrestler. You've got a little pressure is built like who I. Boys and JBL always says on commentary. You could always you know the last couple years I've been back -- viewer to build a sports that are terror from the ground up he'd look like radio or not salute and it's probably true. Absolutely Daniel Bryan is a short maybe a little cult may hopefully. You know that the the beard that. Probably at a Seattle how he lives with that and -- bella. Let's of that but that the one and its and that -- -- three -- -- season with an eighteen total -- Sunday night with some that the brought some sneaky which CNET. Make sense and sounds a little bit makes -- -- that Embry is more the earthy crunchy type with Daniel O'Brien makes total sense. Ambulance that was like they thought it's almost like they just wrote these relationships for a story -- effort TV show and not real -- who thought that matter. And it came back to the point to get a look at Dan O'Brien in his right is not the prototypical. Champion type will. That's the difference between Indy wrestling fans and WWV stands. WW fans know how -- suspend disbelief. And they they wanna see the larger than life super here is they won't receive the freakish -- big guys. Where is I don't want to very much Indy wrestling but I kind of view it. On the outside looking in and watching what the world of Indy wrestling is doing and who the big stars aren't the ones everyone's. Clambering over but. They like the guys that are more look like them. And I don't necessarily want to watch Monday and I relevancy guy who's the same size as me I'm six. -- 190 pounds. I don't wanna see a 190 pounder out there and raw it's not interest and to me I don't wanna see someone that's the same time as me I wanna see someone who's bigger meant Daniel Bryan is obviously. Incredibly talented and there's -- there's a lot of wrestlers are shorter than me pool I've. Grown to love as a wrestler and been able to see them as alert system like character which is what it -- is he a larger than life character right. Not the sort of person where is Randy -- is not really larger than life character is sort. Person data Bryant to me seems that a guy if he just met him. Anywhere had no idea who he was you'd enjoy having a beer with them a private person changes the I would think with his homeless eighth -- looks -- let's say he's sitting at a bar in -- in decent clothes are right snipes not sitting on the street corner but. And it looks like a good got to hang out with. And that's -- I think that might be part of the lower alert to for fans right now it doesn't -- -- -- -- -- -- -- cool guy like it rattled him wrestle. While he's fun to watch I like him and that's. Mean it seems as if I haven't been how is that wrestle mania which is tough to really gauge how to congress this year yes -- it's. Tufts really gauge of the crowd response was that big open air stadium plus he was in a six man tag I believe -- he was in a taxi title match with came CD really get that single shine in response. Into one event since is a couple days at a smackdown taping the hat here. Didn't really get that pulled Daniel Bryan. Respond looking forward to this Saturday actually going to be in at the garden. It's the other crowd response to them. Boston this crowd yeah it is even if it's just even just a lot of that how show to bring in the the super Chicago. Which means they bring both two hours citizens of the split off and have once smackdown shall -- has to be everybody everybody's at -- seemed pretty much. Wool be there on Saturdays and -- to hear the crowd for myself being in the actual arena but when you watch TV. Mean it's pretty amazing. That 151000 people are in those Arenas. And there are close to. 30000. Hands going up in the air people saying yes or no it just something so he's getting to the point. Other -- scene where he's getting reaction from everybody I'm sure other people who did not like Daniel O'Brien there in those crafts the past -- the status. I'm sure opened all but it's getting a response from everybody it's similar to defend -- phenomenon. Which was most of those people that are cheering and loved the team mocking. More okay mocking either way. They're they're getting involved and that's actually -- careless or elect him with the character they've really just kind of gravitated towards that theme song. More than anything which at the time can make or break character. These characters. Ridiculous. And it's going -- nowhere. But with Daniel Bryan those -- chance sometimes like that sit back and think with a -- hot crowd well watching. -- okay how much of it pumping and we have heard this before. There Hogan in the early ninety's that sort of pumping in -- chants and cheers because. He was really getting booed but use babyface since it would Goldberg in the late nineties with -- please don't be so I'm always kind of skeptical of what are today pumping again. But -- Daniel Bryan the cool part about it is the raising of the hands right now. So you know you can't you can't edit that out let's just show a ring and obviously money nights are. Not added more that more than -- at ten mostly always lot they have the occasional taped. And you know England or if they're doing a double take -- because of a holiday type of thing so occasionally it's not a lot. But if you watch a raw live and you watch a tape smacked argued -- can tell the audio is so different and you can tell. When there's things edited on a smackdown terms of the sounds sounds hollow if things don't sound right. It and away you wish they wouldn't do that. But -- clearly blame them. If they're trying to sell a certain products you know they're going to make the changes are necessary but again -- and O'Brien gets the reaction that. It that it blows the roof off place and it's. -- pretty amazing to watch over the last year especially. If you see where it started. When really when it start it was Russell made it 28 he lost an 181819. Seconds and is eighteen cent to save it's -- I mean that's I mean. That is the people still go back and and plenty complain about that our camp we've been treated and O'Brien like daddy loses the opening match the title match in eighteen seconds. The best that never happened. So it really is it really is the best thing that ever happened to them because. It flipped the script on his character. And it's slowly started to turn him into babyface naturally without them kind of right just forcing it down. -- they force it down your throat like they did it right back this past year. Police today forced down your throat -- -- -- ago when he was working -- was working well -- a baby face -- -- Sony's video that apparently are they still just kept forcing and forcing and forcing him and not realizing that talent. On the microphone. Itself the match wasn't really there -- the town in the ring is different you you can get away with a lot of things having. Minimal talent in the ring we've seen plenty of superstars do that. We're right back to -- the scale on the microphone. He it was confusing to watch him because on one hand he'd say something Buick case actually Smart guy and then on the other -- really -- to finish that sentence. You're actually Smart guy what the house. Are we talked about -- Bryant. Let's move on to light you can argue is he won the story line. Arnold I got one more thought on -- prime real quick and this this. Brian Hearst Helmsley. I predictions are right. My prediction goes back from watching Summers. At some point in the near future. I am assuming this story lines gonna go on carry all the way to wrestle mania I'm Simitis eat it at the very least. The next four through the rest of the year you think is seen is gone at least through. Processors in these four months that he yet at some point. Shawn Michaels going to involved. I know he's not gonna get involved and have wrestling match. But I was watching him at some percent when they did that cool little handle an interest in ideas they were doing. How much is that big beard John-Michael wow Dmitri in Daniel -- -- -- it while that yeah. -- they always have you know is as the good history -- man weather pattern McMahon Helmsley was there and -- best friends again. He's got to get audited -- -- he's gonna be Danny O'Brien's. Attractive type of manager guy at some point in the suit that's production. At -- site I like I like -- that's the guys that don't you know men -- -- that's the great need a storyline is good. And wrestling in people always status when there are way more questions. Than answers to what's going on. So right now you're looking at it as OK to be Shawn Michaels gets involved but you could you know technically you could go triple -- site never know. The ending of Bryant's side John CNET comes back and -- six months. What is he -- the -- that -- -- -- up Dana Bryant who notes. In never ago so there's there's different questions. CM punk eventually you would think is gonna want -- don't make his way -- into you. The title as need to right now it's just expected it does need to be involved with that -- can make its way back in -- he sighed with Daniel brought -- of that. I think the Internet would go insane. So debt that is that is the most exciting part and I think that's the way its bid for most of this year but there have been just more questions after questions and how things got to play out. That makes interesting when 234. Years ago. It was kind of the same thing. Sina champion. Fights a big guy. Gets beat up when the match gets in just trying to recycle that recycle that. But I think they got to a point now a triple H kind of in control. A lot of things you're seeing the -- -- plotting things out. Having come so something's happens. I feels that so they have they have their idea they already have their idea wrestle -- -- they know what they want their top matches but it seems that now. At the very least though they're story putting story lines together that if something happens that you go we go -- went out to go and get to that match instead. It's going to be -- front we have no plan whatsoever let's. Turn Kofi Kingston keel and make him acting out something random they don't want makes no sense. So. Hope that now that makes it made sense I know what you're saying they have the ability to put the fork in the road almost -- point right. On phones so we talked about testing of products CM punk in the briefs his Angola Paul -- continues ago. I'm not totally sold on the Curtis axle involvement in it. In the eight the thought of Osama Al stepping in. With Paul came in seems to be eight. Prevailing thought. -- do you think first what do you think the few asking continue occurs Axl is the -- it's in August wrestling even after the last Monday where axle. Helped take it to -- it actually mostly. -- really I think I I don't know what I. I am on the fence with this story line right now with Curtis -- altogether because for the most part I feel like they've kinda -- Giving -- -- the short end of the stick. Between his first match on Robert triple H portrait which dominated him but then had to stop wrestling and -- that casting doubt it. Even knew that debuting you don't treat him like that if you want him to be a star. Quick quick quick note on that the big thing with that was -- almost a claim that this is just after -- did you we had signed on to do. And Christopher Lewinsky's. Who is that a guest -- WEEI that's Callahan. Talking about it David the institute but it can cut concussion studies -- it's -- within like a week or two a WB signing on to be part of it help out. Did it seem like two weeks later triplets having a storyline concussion. I look for violet -- and said oh you know they're gonna make a story line to -- promoted dog they're gonna say no but notre plates is doing the right thing -- not. Coming back to compete I don't know and it just kind of went away. And I think that decides like go away because of all the backlash I had to quick aside and yet. -- will get back to that because I have one rants about the so yes CM -- Curtis -- -- big spot on -- you know payment destroy ism that leads to. They have a 211 match handicap match in the next day review. Another match that seems that I believe it's been officially announce. The hold rob van dam Alberto Del Rio thing it's a little strange to ever -- Rodriguez being RVDs. Bring out there and to me. It's seem obvious that Ricardo is just got to turn RV day indeed back with Dario. Correct me if -- wrong. Ricardo was on TV for a little while in the story line they wrote it does. Artillery attacked him and turned around basically. He got in real life -- either arrested on here actually think you'd think. The thirty days he was away for. I believe quote wellness wellness violation. They wrote him off. He got sent to a table by adults -- actually who was feud with Dockery at the time and now when he came back. Is when he had a hole and it was off for a couple more weeks and it came back we. Problem was that we got -- so that's may first thought was. Get suspended for -- let's put an abrupt -- them. That was my first thought and I I think I'm right I think that's kind of what they're doing but I I. Rob since he's been back has been direction analysts. And they don't know what it with Adam. He's still puts on a hell of a match never has been very good talkers so it is over -- acting -- You've got to use them want to put him with someone that the people seem to gravitate to and they've really like Ricardo Rodriguez I like him to. And I think the pairing in a way. Very strange but I think it can work to a certain degree because. Ricardo is almost becoming the modern day. Alphonso from ECW. So I'm will be given a chance I don't. Have a strong opinion on -- yet it's a very strange pairing but. I'm absolutely willing to give this one chance -- goes. It just. It's very contrived story line and very forced without any. Natural real heat going on with it but. I like it I mean Robin that's a good match. And they haven't really stiff match together. But it was solid because Alberto Rios is pretty damn good in the -- they had a couple of mess ups that I noticed but it was pretty good match. Do you have a problem with -- hole and as happens with the world champion at the Intercontinental champion. Whoever decides what he'll champions other than the WWE champion. They lose. All the time. Farmer them. More way more than they weigh in on free TV. It normal and also. Rob van -- is now beaten Del Rio twice. On TV -- And now he gets the title match. And occasionally it's fine to do the whole eighty beats it tonight a look at a future title that spot. But it acted like that is just their fallback like all right how to get them to a title match I have a -- -- raw RB ON that he gets the gets it is did did they did don't tendon. There don't seem to care about the other championships and. All that is by getting I hate the fact that they don't care and the other thing I don't like about going and I'm right there with you. I don't like a champion whether the Intercontinental. YouTube and even so the question. There yet Steve Abrams tanks but he's -- defending it at least -- strong it is it is -- losing to not defend yet. But -- much if you have a champion. Why would they be fighting a regular match with that the championship and why would I ever fight the champion. If I'm not getting. Potentially the temperature -- why can't they write more story lines that. Revolve around the disqualification. Or. The count out -- I don't care champion this like that I don't wanna see and he'll -- I don't wanna see them get. Hands clean -- the championship is not on the line. Because now are so rabid and has beaten Del Rio twice. You don't of the paper view now and it's a well he should he should although I guess the first time. RBD one it's because of Ricardo screwing up and that -- Del Rio. Kicking him. Literally to the -- So I mean I guess -- that says there was little story to that it looked like OK at Del Rio is Ricardo screwed up that's a lot. This past week charm -- how. How what happened. I'm still Neitzel to pull the deal over -- fact is that champions there's too much Kurtz -- Los Intercontinental champion now lost a lot. I guess the argument there is -- CM punk is William body in her Condo champions so CM -- should be. Curtis -- absolutely I agree but it's still -- whole idea just champions losing and their religious their props the world title is eight is a prop. But remember when the -- championship was the precursor to the world championship if you want -- I see. Yes you were going to be in line and obviously -- more comfort room it was a perfect and stuff like batter. It's not actually done hard time mentally. Or I'll be adults it. Don't know regular -- -- a lot of guys are way down gas and you know I actually like Billy got back in the day. Bust your ass yes mr. -- the -- that he went to billion shock and you'll never talk about that I would expect him into it did you were tag team champions and then they had a wedding. That was announced that it in -- mean to us and I and -- it's been asked I'm I'm happy. Does that hold period of time it not was watching. We -- this is a whole different topic. There's. If you're listening to this you can tell there's some really hard boiled rants. Both those wanna get into renewable we're trying to contain ourselves -- -- this savers for a special as a political tolerance for special -- show. I submit the rant about the championships and people losing Anderson now there's there's one more topic from raw data -- -- talked about. And I didn't say I didn't think prepping for the show watching raw Monday that this of didn't -- be talking about. Andy to do with Adidas. But got eight HE league was that on -- wow I was announcement that was dropped -- -- -- -- at them sometimes confuse your busy man. I -- between on this stupid sports have to watch for. Sometimes I get confused on what I'm watching on on wrestling that and there was the match before that -- Three and Italian. Britain's highly and then fun could that those were at ringside and then -- at the end he memory you know the total to cast a total the -- -- this. What -- soldiers which I have not seen yet by the way I don't. Have you it's it's -- yeah it -- it's a little addictive in the sense and I like to watch -- -- little backstage things that I see. You know it's kinda it's kinda cool to see John seeded Daniel Bryan most are kind of like living -- checks from. And yes I am not gonna lie. The balances are quite attractive. Actually I think Italian is very attractive. -- I. Don't get my arms -- -- I don't waste I don't adult but she's she's she's not act. We get it that enemy. Anyway -- and the mikes are off spoke. Of total Davis had a little match and then it. AJ appears which. Again if you if you were thinking about it being divas show the devious champion the -- of it and that. She delivered what they're now calling even CM punk is now calling pipe bomb -- the pipe bomb -- great name it was great I mean. Obviously. It goes back to that even through CM -- CM punks pipe bomb. In a sense that we don't know what is what is real. And what his story there has to me it sounds very real but she is I am the champion. Like I've you know worked my way up on this. And they have a TV show called total dealers at night and on it ended that Belichick who wants to be on or not. It does make perfect sense why there. And don't give Iran I think I like tally in the ring she's good wrestler. And actually to be honest if you watch the fellas from when they started rustling and there are a lot better than they were. But you know if you're if you're AJ you're looking at this and -- light what. Why might on how to -- match on -- why it might not on the show and featured on the show I am I in the divas champion and that led to her you know there. A little rants I guess we'll call it. She was really good generally I'll admit this when the divas are on. It's usually it's a fast forward moment I'm not watching -- why it's it is a lot of events popcorn break to ask are you watching -- like eleven on Monday night so like in. You know fast or -- commercial Rosen through. Generally people that warming. The divas generally or re even going back to Trish Radisson lead. Molly holly and all of those guys when it was. In quote golden age of women's wrestling here in WWW via the time. I never really care too much as again the beautiful women Alex in all around -- and hair I could care less about what they're saying. -- -- Martz must watch TV. She she's fascinated she combines everything she's she's attractive of course very serious. I'm neurological -- to have been witness to one of the season that Eckstein had a Deaver NXD she was -- it. And she's good and she's got way better in the -- so she can Russell. She's she's attractive. They -- at this point she's attracted to the point where I don't look at parents say why she's so far out of my league which I do it most of them. -- and I go you know what if I met her feel like I can spark a conversation -- -- look like she's that. She's not that. Overpowering in terms of what she looks like she's a dispute Jesus and so on beautiful little girl whose idea was champion. And I I if you can tell they've -- looks of a victim of -- and -- who -- an agent Leon I don't Seattle yes actually don't -- -- a chance via split. So you don't like some sort so I do I enjoy I enjoy watching here I enjoy watching her talk she's good in the ring. And she has that and she has that something which is talking whether it's the crazy. Or the real life story of her where she -- want to be -- she wanted to be a women's wrestler pretty much her entire life. The picture of her they've shown. I think she was sixteen. She's meeting leader and she was bawling her eyes out. And does that to me I look at got to go that's awesome you know what I'm I'm a supporter I want to watch her because I know that she's it'd for the wrestling. When you look at the Dallas. -- their models they wanna be actress is yes there are no extremists I mean you guess give them credit they still do travel and they they train. Like AJ is all AJ it seems to -- do is -- -- the tally to out. It's so during that promo the -- cutting on all six of them basically. One of the things that really knowing me about that is that -- -- -- sit -- screaming without Mike's they are facing into our face so annoying dummies she sang it to your face. Kind of I mean I guess he -- it will cut bread at the rate cut up and say it more if I wanted to sit here she's the -- -- like there are problems that it was annoying because victory kept saying over and over again on countless aging. And just keep hearing and screeching in the background yet whose quiet and smaller fault that the camera and the audio maybe but. Will they should know to keep them should look at that and kept their mounts. On the -- -- -- That camera but -- -- whoever's her real name is under total visas. Our our Arianna or Zeller Shia she was not tough enough -- of the so -- show the one season which kept believed it and have a second season. Which she was that's why don't you guys she was asked by stone cold Steve Austin. What. Easier was your favorite match. Her answer. Unleash a fox vs Molina. The look on -- holds face and what he said I can't remember priceless look it up. I guess you haven't seen it he need to see this because that's her -- she was the first cut by the way. I believe tough enough. She's now what better. And you watch -- Davis to your stock satellite. Deal like ninety you know like Naomi because Elise she's she -- -- -- -- really wanna dance and I'll I'll. Johnston I don't know. I just know it was -- tackles. -- -- I -- describe which one is which. Just don't know here it is he'll leave it there I will idle Wikipedia it later and figure out which -- -- myself Naomi was on the -- he -- which agent. The dealers and XT that they had so and are watching that and with the down to as of those are two out of his -- that are going to you and I was right but. Wasn't too hard to figure out. Agent -- clearly has that. She has it. She plays this crazy role really well in. This attractive girl that you. -- from a physical sampling you wanted -- when she opens amounts are talking almighty -- that girl that everyone has met or it's known at some point in their life whether the high school college or. And later in life you know that crazy -- And she plays it up really well I think she's got a little real crazy manner. Now talking with that whole thing. The what's real verses storyline. It's going to be it's -- it's it's what -- is probably a combination. Yeah absolutely you know AJ may have been in the back complaining one Q you know lot of lines in and there's a lot -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- that. So the -- and that may have known that there was gonna say that they understand and that's business this is good for business. In this business Tripoli. In this business. And then I was looking you know as I do what I want draw about mental watching it lives. I'll have my spots footer up battle out snowfall befallen the wrestling people and you know WE throws out their tweets. Almost immediately right after the bell is still treating on their joint account at. You know we know all of us were paired with the top guys to get ahead in this business. This company in this that that that to me is interesting to get that magic appoint its they would not it was or is that she wasn't paired with. Brian Sina ziglar -- it's a -- punk which is David at the top of the car a lot of that also help so. I'm Anderson actually see where this storyline goes. Are they get it -- they -- they ain't going to turn AJ into eight and pain fan favorite -- she is for she's a fan favorite. As a. As -- -- -- right yes -- character no but as a performer I. She's just as good as some of the guys that bettors is definitely better than some guys I mean character will be honest. When it -- music hits the only one. The crowd gets some type of hello or -- is her music for so it's super catchy. And yet -- hope we can play and on this hoping to play on the rest cast just. We'll put it in the late underneath the entire -- gross production and post production post production laying underneath the entire show. Make that WEEI -- cast TJ -- theme song. Let's lighten up. And it's it's. Is that the -- union banality from iTunes. Content and comment at at. She is the only one from means that doesn't make me hit the outscored them three times. That says that super fat about four times the super fast in the past I've compass and idea to export Tata superfast. Three to elect a too fast. I don't want -- to they are still at sonic my -- Absolutely. So it is a fantastic Segway. Two to come to our next segment and will caught our special guest segment. They were gonna be joined by as mentioned earlier the radio voice of the Boston Celtics also this summer spending his some his time doing the Boston Red Sox traveling around. Announcing the Red Sox games in. -- -- Rustling of pro wrestling aficionado. We're gonna welcomed into the debut addition of these WEEI. Wrestle cast mr. Sean grandy Sean first of all. For the U listeners the few listeners who might not know your background and rustling got what exactly is it Uga fans for pretty much your entire life correct. I feel like I want to date myself although sometimes -- look in the mirror and wish I could but I EIL. Think six I don't look today and funny no way different -- -- -- you can put aficionado wrestling together which is kind of far cry from. When I was a kid but they're always like everybody's got an entry point. I was smoking and the mature 78 years or wherever it was. When. This is way way back -- access to my dad. At the time. Begun in Larry's in this -- why is he challenging them announcer. CU again Reagan of course the announcer was brought them Martina which I didn't know from previous generations one of the greatest of all time. And it worked most famous singles of all time -- former leading to a match Shea Stadium. And I was I was hooked at that point you know the kid growing up in new York and at that time. That George shows on WTBS. On nationally and pretty soon just a whole new. Why -- world to join my baseball football hockey. Basketball world to me you just another sport I was completely engrossed in it and then I think there's that moment everybody has when name. Go from being the kid who watches it wide guide to finding out how it works and that's what most people. Most kids jump off that jump away from it and move on to something else and for me when I was sixteen X sixteen finally learned. You know there's a period -- time we know something right we don't know how it works the -- fifteen and I kind of start reading newsletters and found that have nothing really worked behind the scenes. And that losing interest that sparked my interest even more. So you you had the rare opportunity and not a lot of kids got this opportunity of being able to see. Relative to national promotions most kids had to -- with their territory wherever they were growing up. That's really all -- got to see it you have the benefit of watching WWW. End NWA yet of George. And the Florida show I suppose. My father passed away in 1984 so I suppose like rat him out now my mother because thirty years is gone by. But my bedtime when I was a kid was. 1 of 11 o'clock 1030 whatever was when I was in high school. Or in junior high school and my dad would let me stay out because on Monday night at 1130. This show from Florida went on Spanish station. In New York or when the UHF station and so every Monday night at 1130. I'd get to like officially came from from Florida as well and and you know people in the walls and Tuesday morning at school but I was. I can tell you what Kevin sold and this was -- in 1983. Because of that so as opposed to action going on history class but. It -- -- you know we. The exposure than you feel that's what we -- -- magazine -- read the magazines at all about these guys that blows in on all the great memory of it because that was young for the territorial age. Which is entirely different era of wrestling was it was really cool when you get to see the all the different products. Yet for me growing up by his slam in the 90s90s. -- 2000 Q when it comes to wrestling I've you know territories I have no real. Idea how that works it seems seems so different that need to be watching TBS at 635 and watch that he's W were NWA -- You know it's it's such a different time is it it that's it that's a bad thing probably for wrestling right. You know in some -- -- popular made a lot of money and we we all I think those less than that. Listen when -- -- we're doing Red Sox games and you romanticize. About the baseball under you that's for all of us do and sports. And obviously -- -- assessment that the whale was there were certainly a lot of advantages of it in that. For example I use examples got like the big show. And you know to take mark -- perfect example the guy who was around for thirteen fourteen years. Where they figure out what to do with him -- it's character again thirteen -- character got totally totally figured out new direction to go with it. You know just last year whereas in the old days you'd be in W Libya for. Six months eight months ten months you have Iran they could go to -- go to Florida you go to Tennessee go somewhere else he continue to work. Have an entirely different program there and then if you were popular guy Tom Morocco's great example this great balance and a great example of this you can come back. And you were pure pure trash where there's no way to keep guys fresh and what I don't think about the in the modern era that is certainly not moderate anymore it's over ten years ago. It really bit. What struck a chord with me the bell went off I might -- the night to triple H came back. From the injury the big injury he had -- inducted into yet but he came back to -- for square garden very carefully. Triple H design night after Monday Night Football was over in the ratings are going to be back in the first Monday January but there were the reaction to -- madness Madison Square Garden. Was so crazy over the top and I realize that's what you don't have anymore is that. There's no off season. Which I think really hard to Japan they have sort of an off season. And you -- sort of reset everything and everything is noon flash worse it's very hard the last -- guy inadvertently you know gets hurt has gone for awhile you don't have that sort of reinvention of the character that you could have. You know in the territory -- The other thing that's missing from the territories you couldn't hone your craft now. You have to go to NXT or -- for that matter and on crap but then you could travel around the country get used to different. Audiences and spend time actually on TV figuring things out before you made the -- to. Whether it be that you have to be WB to CWW you don't have that really. There's no certain sports you know basketball the NBA is just the last two years begun to develop a minor league system that baseball has had. For decades and decades and decades and this is essentially what -- what you can work your way up the -- and this is what triple agent Stephanie what they've all figured out. And in expanding the you know and developmental and the new state of the art facility they have done their he realizes this they have to do it themselves. And this is that the lag period of the last eight years listed -- really exist you bad. They're very rare Daniel Bryan CM punks work the way up through what's left of the independence and ring of honor and working shows becoming sort of Internet wonders and that's that's sort of the hard way. To do it now that. You just can't that that's that's -- needle in the haystack that you have to be more like the other sports in the and in scouting and development we have to do yourself could it won't be done for you anymore. And I think that's a great segued to come to present day you mentioned. Daniel -- he came up through the independence and now all of a sudden he's placed as potentially that number one guy. Do you think a guy like Daniel rank and be the face of a -- WE a big time company. The way it's constituted right now. The answer to that is yes it is yes ironically yes yes yes 'cause that if you know what would happen now. Is that the company's stock. You know over the last. In the last generation and you know he had Steve Austin generation and the rock and things like that. I would see those in the individual stars on top but the plan now is a we're talking about thirty year brand sense says that as a national. Sort of feed it and it went his own way I think you know for a period of time there was gonna need to start stretching the brand now as a strong. As it is never -- wrestle mania is the brand's summer slam as a brand Monday night raw its brand. And that combined with the fact I'd have been named Bryant thing is just fascinating and I think CM punk sort of paved the way forward. Two years ago and you know I think that moment that we all romanticize about in Las Vegas and in the fourth wall promo. Did who will work there really significant moment in the business because -- is going to be the guy that's sort of knocked down the wall. For the people that didn't fit the mold in the new -- that -- he just. That -- -- gravitated toward him and there's no way. In the in a period totaled five years ago ten years ago that Daniel Bryant thing wouldn't happen you have to give credit to two -- triple agent stepped everybody. Two to recognize that this -- fans. Wanted and then to. You know to. To push the power of them to be behind it and they they know how to do this they know how to create Steve Austin -- like the -- bottom but the putting him in very similar. Circumstances for the ones they Austin in fifteen years ago. It's formula works who learn to there's two things we learned that failed to respond to a guy like this so we've also learned. That just because -- guy can now. -- brilliant but we'd like to call or star five star sixty minute match on a ring on her show or on some shows that you read about on the Internet. It doesn't mean that he can't do. The sports entertainment. And I think Daniel Ryan taught us that last year when he did hold the opened with came. And he got both of them actually gets full marks for just completely do which you have to do and selling out and go completely into the -- for that had been carved out. For them and I think it was a it was a double learning curve just can't get -- -- doesn't look that way -- the preformed for them entertained them just because the guy can do a sixty minute match. Doesn't mean he can't be the sports entertainer and -- and marketable -- -- Who is. Who's your diary and a who's who's your favorite to watch each week. I think -- right now just on television. DVR stopper pyramid you know crazy play that play world here and you got a two year old when your time is. It actually an Egyptian -- Why aren't we all in the damn ridiculous I still feel as though go. The media -- stopper is the that's really the telltale -- it used to be a buy tickets -- are what make you stop. The DVR and watch and obviously Daniel Bryan won the other a lot of guys that I you know I like to watch it become more intrigued with the individual -- from the shield. But to me right now pocket payment are the that's the apps have been DVR stopper. For me and I know they're gonna give me something. Every week it's gonna entertain me it's gonna Grossman it's gonna kind of you know. Kind of pull me into what they're doing. Speaking of -- him and I was thinking about this the other night watching raw. I don't know if I've ever seen anyone better on the -- tempo and minutes. Yeah he's you know he's going to be again one of the things that really separated from other people like him -- his ability to. No matter what we perceive to be -- feud or whatever he just stick it just doesn't care. And it makes the dollar the next day moves on that seems to -- talked to lean on know people who know him and that. He legitimate legitimately it like that doesn't hold grudges and just moved on to the next languages. Great luxury to have you know which -- at the world probably about a place. More efficiently run -- but in that vein it's hard Nazi point in the hall of fame and listening to people talk about. -- with the other likely -- -- people at the golf actually but. He's right there and we've seen him on TV do when he's -- last year you realize how could be happy none of them on Tuesday. These last few years but what in what -- that you just forget how good performer. That he has -- sister brilliant mind for for the -- With guys like Daniel Bryan in CM punk kind of being now the top will -- -- top good guys in the company of those -- really isn't -- good guy. As more of a stone cold type of performer. It now John C now for four to six months this leads that inevitable question of will they make a change for John -- when he comes back because it may be in this time. Daniel Bryan CM punk becomes those. Faces -- the company via the ultra good guys. I think he'll be a time for I just don't think that time is is is coming soon I think people. Like talk about the merchandise issue in the -- issue but what to meet or you know I look at it stepped back and I. People that screen for -- into the turn -- and people that. Get so passionate about it's it's almost like they're -- they're they're the ones getting work. In this whole deal that the same thing works the way it works and what to meet again doesn't seem of people liberally. Last on is that the let's go seen see this clock and the chances Sina. Those are. Beached balls for the crowd. That's the way Kansas sporting event not beach balls around there it that's crowd participation. I don't think it genuinely reflects. Anyone's feeling fairly significant again it doesn't do you write this down. Which can go to the whole thing. On that night. The whole crowd gonna do let's -- -- the -- sucks. And they're gonna do it as a tribute to him. The same way when -- that is actually started off in the 86 World Series it was sort of going Darryl Darryl for Darryl Strawberry. And then met fans picked up on it and started doing it. In a positive way. As sort of you know. Term of endearment or showing affection and I think that seemed to I don't think there's any dispute. I can't buy any reasonable measures there's no way you can keep scene right now I'm in the top ten in the history of this. I don't think I don't think you can -- up when you look at his body of work his success. The match seek out with a different opponents like the time on top -- no interest in and out by the time. It's all over but I don't think that the change in his -- that -- going to be tweaks and storyline but much are you need to. A change in his character I think it worked for the everybody stops what he's. In the building entirely reacts and everything stops ratings go up when he's on the screens I think he's just finally. I think that you I think when he does come back they're gonna realize that they missed I agree estimated -- juvenile. And I. My prediction with the storyline being he's gonna come back -- -- -- and Brian workers facing this new McMahon Helmsley regime. He's gonna come back involved -- that he's going to be cheered and beloved. The people is and people love. The people of sacrificing themselves to get into the business and again I just think this is the way. Fans have been taught to react to him and I think he gets so I think they've been very Smart to stay the course not. And not react. All right shot thanks so much for joining this it debut addition of DW EEI or wrestle cast and hopefully we can do this again the near future. If long overdue gentlemen I think the world -- waiting for this particular podcast and I'm glad. That you two have taken it upon yourself to carry the ball this -- -- and so history is made. We're here to deliver Sean and thank you will. That's very much for joining us thank you our guide. Speaking of history at this point to show Ben and I -- guides you take a trip down memory lane in. Maybe eight this week. In wrestling industry globally is -- we Michael eight to 910 days past the week that's not how long -- -- he -- days are eight what was The Beatles song. It is yes eight days a week. So in that in that idea of this week. In pro wrestling it's true and go back and talk about a few events that we can remember. I know four young men over here. Between the two of us he is the key is the if more of the old school he has a lot of old school knowledge on my adult org news school knowledge but together that's perfect -- with our powers combine our powers combined were wrestling -- we are just a full fledged wrestling her without a girlfriend. Yeah that's -- my axe you the truth and you want so our president and it's the same thing. Except for this is more action. And you know while. It has men wrestling to. The subprime. All right so that's why -- crimes. Civil let's go back -- summer slam time in a lot of great summer slam moments. For you what are what are your early summers' slam moments late eighties early ninety's that a lot happened obviously. In those in those years in the early stages of the summer slam paper you. The first summer slam. Was after wrestle mania for -- in Randy savage won the tournament and beat. -- BSE in the final match and Hogan and Andre had their cause I rematch. From wrestle mania three. And it was like a double disqualification. And things -- ruined brand acceptance of the title and Randy savage and -- -- farm up and then million dollar man. Is. Aligned with Andre the Giant. So as the mega powers verse. I wanna say they were called the megabucks. Yet until the collar and I think on the mat Garcia and that was the first main event I've ever remembered that. Pretty well and Elizabeth -- Court. She's -- you mean she's the she's the original she's the original idea. Catch you can even see issues -- -- the first lady of rest it was a woman -- not a diva. She not to be confused with woman. Which Islam group we're not gonna go down that path for those viewed as to what that Alice's. So you have megabucks for some powers in the first on the second one which was. I remember very vividly because it was right about the time right before no holds barred came out that Hulk Hogan movie with. Tiny -- -- from. Moves named Zeus Zeus in wrestling. Is -- they just put out like a remastered dvd of that recently right -- you know they're promoting this on over another promote this on raw. There are promoting Hogan on raw and what if this was six months to a year ago. And got away -- it is on TNA is you know a Medicare today I thought it was funny that there -- and Hogan's in the newest Debbie Debbie wrestling and I think Debbie this is attention quickly -- WW he's got to a -- you know ending you know being -- care. It just don't care about he and I. In that fact if you go to their website at staying in draft party. Kurt angle they are on the right they're just like when you know those -- it's like whatever you know we we are the top of the chain -- cannot ignore. Hulk Hogan being. I think they also realize that. I I'm just just a guest of mine but everyone who watches T inning. I am occasionally I'll flip it's it's on our check out what they're doing is the sum this -- it is really really good. But on that I would say they're matches. Our will leaps and bounds -- but better than their story lines which in the end. You're watching pro wrestling on a daily basis he needs a storyline to get to Williams really needs you you -- the storyline to. Sell you on why these two were fighting but for the standalone match sometimes I'd I'd I do enjoy I -- a slam reverser Kerio. Against Serena it was a great matches but to me I was on story you know best. -- don't care as much right so I think they look at that are I think that almost everyone who watched CNN is. WV. Viewer. So I don't think they're really care in that sense it's not like you're choosing one over the other is no Monday -- war -- When you're done if you were it was 1997. -- the watch raw or you were watching nitro and it's. And I think. You're like me you word taking one watching the other and going back in fast forwarding old school DVR through one of them to get his stuff. I -- I was just -- I didn't record very much hypocrites paper used back then I was flipping back and forth and try and -- out to. Happen at some back back to back to -- slam back to what we were talking about so that was the first summer slam and his second there the second summer slam was. Macho men have become much of king. By this point the mega powers that exploded at wrestle mania five. And date that was the best I think that's the best match -- scorer restraints did you wrestle me. And then you have this whole movie coming out and this is released into -- -- the story line and much of king brings Zeus. And who's Hulk -- big time partner. Brutus the barber -- -- is best friend that dude sucked ass and he was terrible that either guy can I don't care where he's from. The character was terrible you look at the big weirdo he -- -- his thing is the McCutcheon here after the -- So later on known as the disciple in the -- also known as the booty man. Out at WCW's the -- man. -- release him between mr. some men too much mr. rested better. I think so too anything Purdue's -- remains atlas and against heated. Was crap. Crap. Even his tag team title reign as the dream team or whatever they're called -- Greg the -- -- stone. Speaking of -- -- staying the course and not getting too far off Hartley yeah we have so much to talk about it -- who's the best. For me in my favor main event. Was good guy for good. Bret -- British -- And they had a really interesting -- on this -- 1992 out at Wembley Stadium and there was like 80000 people jammed -- embassy. This really cool -- going with Diana which was brought sister. And Davy -- wife right. So it was good -- good guy but there is a reason for you to watch. -- of really good matches probably the best singles matches ever seen out of -- people -- impressed are never put on match. And in in -- me. -- Wallace mother matches in summer slam history which it seems like summer slam. Is a time where they do these types of -- -- -- case matches that they can sell a paper view and obviously that one partly was sold because with British Bulldog wrestling in England. But I'm I don't know how it did in terms of paper view itself but I was about place is packed. Now what's people and our arguing when they can do that again at -- -- it and -- will just because that time difference. They wanted to lives. For sure. I don't know what the time differences 6656. Hours -- -- and if you remember. Back in the late eighties early ninety's. Peoples' views were running earlier in the day for clock starts on yeah. As -- the survivors here sometime Saturday nights I believe -- not easy match survivor series -- -- -- -- -- getting a Monday or something that's possible right. It was right before run and Ross sellers. A couple of years later a thousand those -- and a couple of years later. You had a on the takeovers undertaker. Which is really bizarre. And really stupid because they look similar obviously but you could really tip of the day yes you knew as a native and I was nine or ten years old at the time. I -- to looking at it like a which owns it. It's obvious and and I think if memory serves. Leslie Nielsen was part of that. I usually -- invests. I was you know what I stumbled up before summer slam. Most recently obviously last week I was -- -- -- -- I think it was a little flash unity. And too little surf and -- -- to do some times turn flash Judy and I am I wound up on a summer's -- 94 video and I was watching yeah. Leslie Nielsen was edit it must've been which when I mean you must be naked gun 33 and a third. Yeah coming out not just come out and he was with the other the other officer is not -- not OJ. Forget I don't know -- they -- -- and neighbors is the -- name but he was with him and -- they were doing a whole throughout the whole show the pre show doing. Looking around which will Israel undertake period I thought wow. This really was is the age of character -- -- -- -- chances are cheaters. And that was just running wild until about 96. To that you still have. Over the top silly care workers like the ones that have been. We've been watching in vignettes on Monday in Iraq last obliquely no -- congress. Los matadors are closing -- I know I RAF it is for you know exam yes. OK I had no idea but every time I see that a Washington on I remember when this -- first came out winners Tito Santana and news. The matador has sucked -- with what's gonna make this any different -- it's -- for them they're getting get some. TV time and some actual promotion as opposed what they were doing for -- is another mass chemical difference. It summer slam 94 though guys some sort of had some great moments you've had some really cool interest in matches arm. I believe. That H became. Razor Ramon out of one they had first class. The latter second Summers I'm 35 submitted it was what's seventeen months after. The original. So the minute about that in like that that's cool actually sets that aren't having that buildup to a second match Summers and body size the second ladder match they had no. And you look at some of the main event summer slam 96 -- -- members of the main event or not it was HDK vs Peter they brought debater in WCW big band Bader. So speed is digs out tough guy he's losing to Shawn Michaels which at times Shawn Michaels -- accusing top dog is top dog vote. I mean. Human thought they were coming in ways squash them but I maybe that's maybe that it might still be doled out of time -- -- is lightly -- the other guy. Now in it was to our top guy. Well invader was brought -- basically replacing the loss of reason -- And this kind of almost swap Robitaille was about the same time. Might have been a little before that -- raised -- That was flop character. Yes and then he turned into a soft -- I remember a couple of years later he lost a match to -- and at a post match interview which they don't do that often you know walking up eight. Start crying. It will be easy as what it is and that as -- that this is like fifteen years apparently is -- really nice -- cuddly guy so maybe that was actually his real. Don't say that the power Norfolk kicked his ass and our -- and you know in this another tangent of bags in the Mick Foley dvd that recently came out. It chronicles the the series of matches they had together back in the early nineties in debt was eight of -- match for day closed out all right -- Bader matches went right. Back out our what -- have -- -- yet it was against me Frankfurt Germany. Just their matches were absolutely brutal and so if you haven't seen the newest Mick Foley. They could agree accounting that is -- so easy -- -- -- and -- go back and talk about that. Now my my summer slam you know moments really. Obviously as I said I came more into the mid to late ninety's. Summers at 98. By many heading into this recent -- slam if you asked about what was the last time -- were this excited for summers' slam. A lot people said 1998 highway to hell. Our customers the undertaker who remembered about it and babyface Thursday paced matchup that was built for a long time with that statement the backdrop -- on in the backdrop. Was well undertaker and Kane of friends are they enemies still never made sense anyways. They're friends and her friend means they let -- -- that you are on fire packets blunt stick in the water. Anyways everything storyline blood into a hot race except slight edge and Christian now that's friends that never Brothers. But not a great match and again and also true is the whole beta phase for -- days. And yes obviously Austin undertaker. Could be he'll he'll -- I would watch that match and at the same enjoyment but the match of the night that Summers and on over the latter match triple H in the rock cat. It's no different than any latter match that came after for the most part. In most of before it in a sense that it indeed sixteen -- in the rain at once. They didn't need to be jump while the top of latter's. Is that you know there was no shot that was kind of a shot Michael spot on top of the latter splash. The rocket in triple H at the that part upon a cerebral. Type of latter match it would states are not having a normal wrestling match. The point -- like wait a minute the latter out so it's gonna use that. It just just didn't need is one latter to learn to use the entire match they found good ways to use it you know. Brought -- propping it up on the on the between the apron and the barricade and yet Mark Henry in China out there by the way -- it like a weird. You know sexual tension feud going out applicants. Leading to sexual chocolate Mark -- So I haven't watched it recently I just know thinking about that matchup I go back and watch a match from that summer slam is that one is Austin undertaker was good. I feel like you've seen similar matches since then that latter match I think stands alone is over the -- though it did you know that that's. It's almost forgot about that fact yes it was over the Intercontinental title. When that. It's -- so much. Triple H I believe he would -- IC champ before that. But not for a long time he went the rock had been before the rocket and also it but it was the second -- solidified them as that. -- what they're gonna take the next step. Rocketed. Within a couple of months. Triple H I believe was hurt kind of right after that so who knows he may have taken the next step -- Who knows maybe they'll be Tripoli to spot eating -- -- Or simulate that poster -- -- your leaders champions that clear defined in -- champion next step world champion it'll happen anymore. Anyways the moral stories go back want to -- match triple H the rock summer slam 98 you'll definitely enjoy it. And the one thing and I'll always remember the latter's Wear yellow. Yellow latter's why do you think they did. Really -- vote. I you know I don't. I always wondered. So for that latter match those letters numbers that back and that's the square garden but those letters that it just happened their truck all the time. Or it's somebody go to ace hardware in Bible verse and you -- it -- -- letters. You'll have yellow ones. Vince is going to be pissed at this one this segment of the show is brought to you -- ace hardware could -- But if you know -- that -- that like it now looking back yet couldn't stand it makes it seem different is -- yet there are yellow letters. People complain on a team days -- plastic bladders which I don't understand how that's possible. I guess I have been musical we're gonna save money so it's plastic flat the last latter -- save money teenagers it's. Get rid of Hulk Hogan and -- Brooke already. She was weeks -- a recruitment and -- -- and you disagree I know I don't know it's not. It's because she looks like hole that's just you know it is particularly from now because they're related. Isn't it weird that Hulk Hogan married a woman who kind of looks like him. Fathered a child it kind of looks like him divorced that first life and then married another woman who kind of looks like him. It's another show on itself I think. Save these -- room today. So I think we successfully. Come to the end of our debut addition. But the WEEI. Wrestle cast we hope you enjoyed tuning in episode to -- be all the way real soon hopefully. We do -- we we don't have a against booked yet bought. Syria while we do all bets are breaking news we have to get -- much -- and our we wanna say -- -- later. If you've made it this far through the podcasts I'm not entities that onion Italian -- It's the amazing and awesome and very knowledgeable and is he is wrestling history goes deep. Rather than for the shots from her than -- -- -- dimension great guy. Dale Arnold mr. Dale Arnold will be our second guest on the WEEI. Wrestle cast so it's really hard to book these guests it's tough walking down home. Hey did you wanna come out of us we're gonna do -- aren't it was like finally. I think I yeah I tailored to every Sunday morning on barely play wrestling team music but I can attract -- about it it's. I wanna keep my job could -- so that. So look at -- -- -- detail about the world of professional I don't he keeps up -- -- -- he was want to summer slam he's up to date and everything but he has some really strong opinions. Some of these tournaments that are going -- I talk to -- answered about the stuff. He's got some interest and -- I look. Can afford that they'll be on the second edition of the WEEI. -- -- thank you for tuning in today. My co hosts young then -- kitchen -- in my two to six Monday through Fridays salt and Ali he's CA is the voice of the force for. Which is I -- my favorite segment of that show it's like him that I'd I'd like I got Phelan analyze it that some of that air time. That precious precious air here on time. My name is Scott -- cannot. And I keep an eye out for. The second edition of the -- cast in the meantime we define us on Twitter if I'm Bennett young Ben WEEI. If -- the cat suit costs Etsy DI KO. Asked -- sinister thoughts or questions aside any ideas maybe after the show at the top of the show we talked about the big pilot clay. Molding it into what the fans want here. So that is the WEEI. Wrestled cast on it's -- next time. He's trying to think of it -- -- kind of I don't know I was sort of thing going there they are not as I now does this -- at the phone. And until we see you next time there is an -- I don't. By this.
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