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"Celtics Summer Cooler" with Sean Grande and Cedric Maxwell - Hour 2

Jun 15, 2013|

Grande and Max take more calls on the Celtics and discuss what lies ahead for Doc Rivers with Steve Bulpett.

Transcript - will not be 100% accurate

I'm not gonna -- -- -- well we first came up with this idea and they asked Max and -- to do this we were both a little bit skeptical about the idea of topics and how much Celtics now much -- there was going to be do during the summer plus. The testicle issues of veto Red Sox games also -- in Baltimore right now on max's back in Boston little that we know. We'd end up with a fascinating week to begin it was all the Doc -- stuff going on we've. All -- inundated by national perspective. Of things and we all watch ESPN all time we see if reports that we see. Guys who were under a lot of pressure to report things everyday and sort of add on to a story that when there may or may not be anything to add onto it. To sometimes the best place to get the -- perspective. It's the -- local with the people that have covered the team not only this year but for years and years and years and every week on -- -- some local politics in time to spend time with people. That cover the team on a regular basis and Steve Pope met from the Boston Herald joints I was gonna call you -- -- -- Murphy Murphy has couple years -- right. Know your source you. Many -- -- -- -- -- and revenue and of course it's a -- of on I mean why would you that you listen -- over it during the last segment. Nice when you have yourself point 1973. And in that last six of the years all kind of the years all blend together and they all like in ads on. To the legendary you know what were talking about had been throughout the course this weekend it's fascinating to watch everybody nationally this week that again are. Except it isn't it amazing as what we began the show we were joking relax and I only joking earlier in the week that hero the Bruins and Blackhawks in the Stanley Cup finals. I'm sitting here Camden yards with a Red Sox have a demon half lead in the American League east following net calamities here in 2012. And what did the patriots possibly do this week to -- media headlines they went out and found the single biggest media star third string quarterback in the history of the planet. It seemed inconceivable that we get to Saturday and they would be celtics' story there will be compelling now only locally. But nationally but this has grown -- -- let me ask that you wrote -- to -- was the definitive piece on this Wednesday where -- stood. In which you use determined that a source gave you that really seemed like early in the week it. The odds were almost overwhelming. In favor of dot coming back -- years it still feel that way three days later. I don't think it's overwhelming really comes back anymore they'll. Doc has changed on this. Some of the things that are needed to be. You know -- passed these this is what he's gonna do what he wants to be. He's moved up those positions. And -- Celtics. Look. Every player. Gets put up on the auction block every summer every trade deadline by the Celtics and by any team. With an app for Bernie you'd you wanna see what's out there and Doc Rivers is now. You know they're not very -- -- or Gregg Popovich anymore does not you know have this you know huge SpinRite I want as they have so the rest my life. He's moved up and he has then you wanna see what he would what he inspection in the marketplace because he's -- out. But I think you're right on target with that -- look at this team and you know Doc Rivers coming to me it was the body language. Early on and the marchers you know what docket told a lot of the people but. Just watching him and listening to him and see them on the plane. And interacting with Kevin Garnett and Paul Pierce that last game the body language said a lot to me about. There was something -- going on that Doc Rivers didn't feel like you know one that -- peers might not be back but to. It just didn't feel like. It was Doc -- time to say hey I'm going to be back in the building. Yeah and protects you know those things were coming when he signed a five year. Contract extension and you knew. How old Paul Pierce was I mean you know. The president had to show -- to pick and I'm pretty sure Paul and Kevin as well. That he knew all those things that need to cure. You know if you're ninety years old you don't by any long playing record you know I mean it's. Eat it just doesn't. I got I don't know look I agree what you're saying. But it just seemed a little incongruous. Compared to you know what -- put forth witnesses you know which is believed that he. New rebuilding was coming and he wanted to do it and but -- -- I think you know every year I'm sure it's for you guides through -- -- I was the one year you kind of rethink things. And remember now in April 2010. -- was not here because we -- it's not heard of that time that he was telling people that this is good for him. And then the Celtics go on the playoff one make it to the NBA finals you know come within a game of -- winning at all. And all the sudden -- back in the next -- signing an extension and you know things change. You know. What he we all know -- He likes he likes a lot of different things. -- Some day if they slam or to book it'll probably be their -- be an entire chapter about the flight. Back from LA after game seven in 2010 because I believe now I will always believe. That the direction of the Celtics the last three years changed from the start that flight. To the end of that flight because it really was it it absolutely felt like the end that night and into the next day and I think it was in those six hours in the air at the moment really start to -- for what we saw. Over the last three years you've had your relationship among local media guys -- dating to me is second to none. So I'll ask you this is this. Suddenly now presenting itself as much as Celtics fans are clinging to -- right now. It is Danny is this going to be the best opportunity he has presented with now to have this extra asset in what now we're talking about almost like a player contract. Having Doc Rivers to rebuild on the -- Turk. What -- look at the Celtics the way they're constructed right now with. With Paul Pierce and Kevin Garnett still appears. You know quad play under contract for next year Kevin Garnett under contract next here. This team this bill. To win around that was -- try to went around those guys. You look at the contracts that we the team down you can pretty big money for Paul Pierce big money for Kevin Garnett. But it's also the -- -- Brandon bass and Courtney Lee and Jason Terry. We're making middle or money that adds up to serious dough and they are here only because it is. They -- of their -- complementary value to a team with Paul Pierce and Kevin Garnett on. And you know it's hard to. -- built with -- last summer they could have altered the course of the team but when you looked at it what the Celtics could get for. For salary cap space. And what was so what they can actually get on the market it didn't add up you you know what the -- that -- just try to. I hate this term -- blow it up at that point. You you you kind of were made it through. Team what would happen to you he had kept being on the roster to get guys like court -- and what this team with a lot the lot different by the end. At courtyard. At Roger on Rondo and Jared soldier better help the you know a couple of very -- pieces are great in -- -- or in those roles what do you -- to move over chair and do -- different job description. Then you know like -- under bit on play by play you had BP engineer. -- -- -- -- It was very good sound like this this is going to happen -- asked me let me ask you in so that that's that's make you DG you know. What would you do in this situation right now with this team. No one of the things they are and how they've changed on the Meehan then doctor -- could be in play here what would you do. Both personally do not want -- out what money -- wants to negotiate a contract that we got that we can we give you that. I would do exactly I think what could -- I believe I sort of know he is doing that. Talk about the GM's he's out there saying you know. What the good -- for this would be given for that absolutely. He's gonna explore this this corporate thing. You know if they want -- they want this guy. -- corporate what Doc Rivers we know that. The Celtics want stuff that the clippers have. The so we tried very hard to deadline to do a deal -- or. Eric Bledsoe -- Andre Jordan and any bill that girl wanted to -- the corporate work out. And there was never gonna happen. And it never got the point where yeah I will speak about you in this but it from the Celtics won and so you have here mutual interest. Why would definitely explore that -- -- would be any I would ask for the moon. And if you don't yet it's okay you come back next year and you know Paul Pierce and Kevin -- -- and if they. They bring Paul back in the last year and you know and with dirt but it's Doc Rivers is still here. You're not go you know losing -- -- early. Gut feeling. Gut -- Steve who is the coach of the Boston Celtics in October. 010. I'd I think Oprah clear I would say that the that it putting our -- the odds are still Doc Rivers because. Two to make the move that would satisfy. All parties here. Would require jumping through a lot of hoops. And although I think there's interest on all sides and there may be other teams to get involved as well. But. To satisfy all those interest. And then deal we're. Collective bargaining ramifications which are an -- -- headaches unto themselves. Would require a lot of not saying you're not desire to get something done but it'd be -- I think yards but still have to -- -- coming back here. Let's have Ross and Rachel -- take breaks on friends -- made for fun relationship television. If doc does come back the longer this has gone on this has become a strange couple weeks. Is all completely forgotten or is there any weirdness about this period of time that we're living through now. I think there's only weirdness speakers. Look dot stock opened the door to this on and on but denied that they they got eliminated in Saudi. Apartment quite like this a big deal looks like dude you mean it. And that's part I think will be a little strange. The other part is strange is that you know you you people say things and that's how you find stuff out and -- instead. I wanna be like. Like Gregg Popovich and and Jerry Sloan and I don't wanna you know I'm willing to go through rebuilding thing in like now -- -- have changed. So you know. I think that will be straight but I think it's Doc Rivers. Takes off. Now I think it's. There's -- Derek -- issues that people are gonna help with him you know -- here but Doc -- was -- sub 500 coach. Before the summer of 2007. And you I'm not saying he was a bad coach could -- heated up the talent to win. And I've always thought that was strange judging coaches. On their won loss record when they don't have the talent. -- get the w.s. But you know so he's immortal coach and all of sudden make that trade and his stature as a coach goes through the roof. Rightly so blind but now what is it difficult. You are you -- greener pastures. He you know we can all understand him wanting to do that. But everybody kind of got picked off that LeBron James when he eats it he I think that got a better chance to win someplace else. I'm gonna go -- So the fans reaction analyst Ray Allen last year it was a free -- and easiest and has three years left them. On the contrary to the burden that it will go -- to Obama and people going to be. Burning net Doc Rivers golf club vertically like that but. We can only hope now. Stable met the Boston Herald we wanna -- the first show because you -- guy and we hope to talk to throughout the course of the summer you're gonna get some times and down timer it. Yeah if -- could make this decision. But -- we find out the results speak earnestly contested dirt that they -- the options were under the playoffs. Now you're here. No one suggests so -- comes to please the evil men of the Boston Herald thanks for men and part of our first witness that sort of -- That is a -- now we talk to him and others that -- that truly coveted statement we're not knock him listen we during the course of the year we have the national guys on all the time and we'd love Chris so we'd love Steven Smith but they have a lot of different things going -- they don't have their finger on the -- the same way that. You know that -- for the team on a regular basis and to the course of the year. And some will be talking to people. They actually do all right Max out to be taking some of your phone calls an accent probably gonna get talked to you guys get your first reaction. I'm really happy to Tennessee on Twitter throughout the course of the week. As to what people really thought I. Got some negative Doc -- sentiment. And I wonder what that would be like if Doc Rivers does end -- leaving as the coach of Boston Celtics actors in the long term -- Tuesday. In 2011 but we're gonna cover that. Throughout the course of the summer every week we're going to take your tweets and -- team from its last five or six year -- That is a memorable game we have -- picked out for you today that revenues are really of at the end of every show and if you missed a conversation earlier. With Bill Simmons from ESPN grant plan ABC you know different hats he wears. That for you gain coming up at 3 o'clock and promised these short during next on inaugural addition. While the Celtics summer cooler Macs in Boston. Camden yards in Baltimore and your calls next on WEB. Celtics summer cooler we we do like inane I -- I'm going to be honest there were a lot of thinks about the show we're kind of put together -- -- really crazy about trying to figure out logistics -- -- this summer it. Were really excited talk to -- -- kind of kind of warm it up to the name it's going to be grandy Maxtor -- with the every Saturday at this time. We're going to talk to some big national -- for a talked to from the Celtics Russia's move past the draft. And in the summer league you know spent time with any chance of mothers from the front office -- -- move along. Maybe Doc Rivers. Up -- Avery got. As coach of Boston Celtics also every week we are going to find to gain from this past 56 year -- you guys vote on that you guys wanna hear a sort of relive. -- going to do that we have one Colorado for you very shortly chosen game 7 of the Eastern Conference semifinals in 2008 the Paul Pierce LeBron team's game so. Sit back and relive some of that -- is to talk to you today. On the fifth anniversary of team five of the NBA finals in 2008 the game on Father's Day at the Celtics lost in Los Angeles before coming back. To win the series our conversation with Bill Simmons if you missed it earlier we're gonna we run that whereas before Red Sox baseball coming up at 305. But in the meantime that's a lot of formations were processing at all. We're gonna go to the phone 6177797937617. 7797937. I'm at Camden yards Baltimore you know with the running joke stick -- Max has. Control of the call board yeah -- guy we have up -- punch up one guy Jesse from committee. I -- open you -- -- and help out that we're gonna do our best when we're awfully confused. Note that two years ago. Well thought -- signed -- -- your contract you have that great press conference -- that you felt like the great offbeat. You ought to be here in the if you're an at -- your help the -- rebuilt. Like what -- meant what I. Here later in the disgruntled because I want that count though. There's a lot of talk about him wanting out of town and not wanting to be here are want somebody to tell me why I'm here. Well -- you know I think that if you you know you what you point team you'd -- in that scenario and I liked it but the same thing happens sometimes when people get married. In L death do well -- and dial I'm so happy this is the happy as they about why they open up with them things changed and I think the biggest thing with this is that doctors is -- command that. That may be and and again we're still to speculate on this but maybe he just didn't wanna come back in coach. On the rebuilding situation. Because remember about -- -- less privacy -- has been on top. And this is these are compelling game season games this that coaches a bit of war. It may be he sees something out there today at the in the debate this haven't changed his mind. And he's looking at the clippers in the looks and maybe that's very exciting to him they have Kevin Garnett maybe have Paul Pierce. To have those kind of gathered there with the opportunity of stay on top. And maybe continue with a streak of wins and giving back deep in the playoff with opportunity when the championship. It's a drug winning winning -- drug I don't -- is any question about it Jesse I think your question is fair one on getting a lot of that sentiment. On on Twitter as well and I think the difference here what's changing in the perception of what's going out Doc Rivers and who knows Doc -- to be back ought to be forgiven I think it's certainly will be. If he comes back. But there was the notion over the last few years when the possibility existed of -- leaving. In 2010 especially I thought he was ever gonna go that was the year because you had. Three of his four kids are going to be seniors you have to college seniors at a high school senior seemed like there was every year for him to be away from coaching. That was the year and there was the borne out notion the idea of doing TV but what has been introduced in very recently here and now very intensely. Over this last week to ten days is the notion of him leaving not to spend time and his family not to go back to television worry obviously has job waiting for every wants what. But to coach another team and that is an entirely. Different animal. And not both as frustrated about the situation I thought the 2010 you have gone and we are going to be. Rebuilding starting in QL -- shocked when you sign. Five year deal and saying enough press conference that he wanted to be here he wanted to remain it felt like what the franchise. And you wanted to help them rebuild and all the buttons. When we finally get to the point where we actually do need -- that we built. You know stock. It than he did all the sudden but I'd be you don't wanna be acquired by split I think there's a lot of frustration from -- And I think certain got to be some frustration that he ends up leaving town. I can understand you want to anecdotes that are situation but. Would you tell hole and -- that you want the public to want to be here now to keep development -- but might not do that Al. I think there -- a lot of people are going to be. By Jesse does that he doesn't this if this scenario is that true. Doesn't help you out. In and making ace with change of transition of helping your team. I have -- other asset because Doc Rivers can't just go someplace without getting something good in return. So even Pete believes he's going to leave you with something coming back right. It does not think and I am trying to. One of those guys -- you know he's the positive side I'm more frustrated with the fact that all but -- -- is -- but. You know it's it's a really good opportunity. For any when you don't have a lot of chip and our pocket -- to rebuild. I think you know and I I -- that got you that doesn't know I'm not sure that saw it the right coach. Are rebuilding. You know scenario I think he's really good with -- -- -- you know you've got to put out a lot of got their respect game. But I'm not sure -- the perfect -- Correct he ignited kind of regarding the -- But thanks for the call do -- really appreciate it we get the next caller here. Keon of dorks yes that. An Iowa that's up soon. I'm so I don't get why people are running away with the Doc Rivers. And LA clippers scenario I I for me it seems as. The media or -- -- copies. Waiting to see if any in go crazy with these trigger finger over the summer about making trades and he's -- to make sure. That'll shortly be anything influence what he did do. You want nation and it being done -- -- law which also means on KP probably retiring the iron or maybe you're going to see what. They get in the draft and that's probably -- the first ship that that didn't look at. In his mind is like what -- content you can and apparently an outpost and I don't need to make certain other moves that are more dramatic. Well our cue YouTube picking a little bit lower in the draft so you're not looking many things it's going to change your team in the real big way. I think one of the things that Doc Rivers is look at them more than that is the fact that. He's a look at that this team transitioning. Are you going to bring Paul back. Kevin Garnett has been no trade PS to give up his no trade if you want to trade him. And the quickest way to true point to make an impact on this team if in fact you point to do this. Would be to have Doc Rivers in that scenario now because. Maybe that maybe he's opened that door to making that change for your team. To be a wholesale team and not just one where they a bandage on the but the wholesale change at this point to give this team completely another look. One other things that made an MBA very tonight. What -- -- waiting until next year why I would -- met with this call now one between two of the contract expire and violated also a lot of you know -- elected in -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- well you know it's ugly to see the team. -- -- in this matter computer code we would like that I wouldn't like. Like adopt laughs you know in the same -- you know -- probably not even getting the right to leave the way that. Ray Allen to let -- -- how -- -- -- that was Ray -- how can we do that the next year and incredible I would not wait until. Next he might call you know you know it's all fair game it started putting more intimate mood yet other creating. Better now though that'd be -- you have a bigger and better draft. Next year why would you met -- all that and that that the hearts and minds of the -- ticket holders by the way and who opt out if you wouldn't like seeing. Things being route -- KB route too much right now. All -- points.

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