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Butch Stearns Sports Sunday Round Up

May 12, 2013|

Butch Stearns opens this Sunday nights show discussing the Red Sox tough home stand, the Bruins big game 6 tonight, potential Celtics offsesason moves, and the state of the Patriots. Listen here as Butch breaks down all New England sports.

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    Our number two Chris aligning with sports Sunday Sports Radio WEEI 6177797937. Then not all Red Sox some pretty much all Jon Lester threw the first hour lie detectors weighing in on the AT&T tax line on that will get to that just a moment. Out final round of the masters is going on a maturity people. Into getting into what is much science tiger. And without Phil as well he Mickelson showed up I think late Thursday night she flew in and Friday after energy is flied out. With Phil Mickelson. I he had a tough weekend are tough early going Richardson first round in a local guy Keegan Bradley struggled missed But there are some big games of the top the leaderboard some exciting. I young names of the Jordan's BT's twenty years old he's cash to win the masters I he'd be the youngest winner since 1979. LEB younger. Then the tiger was the first time you want it. And one of the things that really stood out to me is speaking with some people were down there this week to cover the toward talks and these young guys and it get back to tiger. The complete and water. Lack of off. Around around Tiger Woods to these guys are too young you think about twenty years old 21 years old with somebody like camera some would like walker. In somebody like Blix the Swedish guys and second right now and he's. He's like 28. You know some of these guys too young to really remember or at least have played with tiger against tiger. When he was hitting level like we never seen before the PGA tour earlier received since Jack. And they look at him now a Zagat shoot 77 on the weekends. Is that cats really contention anymore where is I mean Aaron I'm not old and your and all of you remember when. Final round tigers in the lead it was done forget about it I mean one year in the PGA YE Yang those big shots out late and ended up beating and yet that epic battle with Bob May. I nearly beat him in the PGA but it would for the most part just wasn't close he would get a lead and he was one of the best closers in the we'd seen in the sport. But it's just it's different now that's a different vibe. Around Tiger Woods and it's gone from seemingly a foregone conclusion that he would get to nineteen majors is seemingly foregone conclusion that he won't eat next year. Does play majors this year. Is give forty years old Jack won three. After he needs five Jack won three after forty to two of those were when he was forty and the masters in 986. Was kind of an out Larry's 46 years old. Tiger would be a hall of fame career from here on out five major championship all career to get in nineteen. I think it's interesting not only his fall from grace just as a player. In terms of winning majors the was in my opinion at least the best player on were last year he had five or six wins a torch to win major. But the bigger thing to me is just how some of these younger players perceive him do tiger as a contention it used to be regarded. The average stroke. The average round rather up a stroke in. In in the in the final round on Sundays when tiger was in contention real just kind of melted aged just. Folded around with a few exceptions mentioned Bob revealed in Nickels and it's good battles but. For the most part it was just tiger's world everybody else's playing for second they were on him Ernie Els just not Now is young guys just young enough to cocky enough and don't really remember that at least they didn't play through it. And they're saying how statute 75 on the weekends with what's not ID in the turn now but. I should be upon Sunday Bubba Watson very very likable guy. And I Jordan who were finding out a lot about trying to become the youngest masters winner a long time quick birds update we'll get back to the calls against 617779. 7937. Cordially NC DM IA's doing great to get the good news on him that was definitely a concern that you know DM IAA was. Out I got hit looked like in the that it from I thought it was illegal but not dirty if that makes sense I don't think there was intent to injure there. It was just one of those times you're trying to make a hockey play get the principal point contact up higher and you won it. So I thought it was an illegal hit not a dirty hit but by a help not the that you concussion translated to on the ice Thursday that part we don't know just yet. But Patrice Bergeron it sound like is fine I he missed the third period yesterday that would would have been a huge concern. I outside to go. There's not too many guys you point to and say this more important to the bees and Bergeron two way player in hockey this year. Obvious he's good according to coach Julianne and Chris Kelly looks like still day to day with that back injury so some. Relatively speaking. Minor bumps and Bruce is going into the Stanley Cup Playoffs but you know these guys especially Alec Bergeron if he could be on the ice on Thursday against the red he's going to be there. I HTT tech slide is 37937. It's like grab a few of these real quick a one Dexter says eight times over David Price let Lester walked. While you make Casey price a better pitcher at this stage of his career early younger I can cost more money. And now your bidding against everybody else you've got the cost control guy. Housing cost control we get the guided the under your control rather. The of the exclusive negotiating window with wants to stay here to guide it. As more in depth track record in the post season to sign him. And that point it's not a knock on price and gives great pitcher. But if you're looking at what you can do it even easier than that that will save you some money relative to what price can get on the open market signed last. I know detector can you imagine having Stanton in Boston did it forty plus homers easy architecture from western mass. Two words about prospects Daniel yep they can go hard the other way. I another one here says agree with you order percent top of the rotation guys talk about Lester innings a year post seasons died. Given the cash over five years five for one and should get it done. And out finally is Lester stats are comparable to average career he walked away from 244 million Lester has been better than Homer Bailey and look at the contract. That he just signed a few textures telling me the gets four clocked at. Well evening parade for a UConn for the championships I assume the men and women together out both of them winning the national title. Yes as tougher as Turkey's but happy for Kevin Ollie who now is the next. Hot coaching named to go from college to the end beauty after eight seasons. But undefeated in the NCAA tournament ally guys can say that are at six or 77797937. is in New Jersey he's up next When then. Just try to not cute bit Ali thank you and I can't believe that a low ball. Jon Lester like they don't agree that you like a side impact by one and whatever argument sake. We have been out of my. But you see a lot of contracts for your team that have gone got into the contract stratosphere and some of them have really worked out so well. But for a number like dapper Lester what he's so willing to stay. I agree I was surprised. When I saw what the number was at the end of spring training where the Red Sox know Lester broke off toxin seems like a a low ball contract terms of dollars in a low ball contract thirty years. definitely. god I G I mean lucky probably let out a little bit like that way radio reluctant I had. Yeah I mean yeah I'm with you thanks to the fall being a former yankees fans perspective. They're never shy about spending dollars. That Lester contract is makes sense and I've said this a few times. Because just getting back to this point I do think my gut still tells me they get a Don. Gut feeling they still get this contract done because I hate candidate it player just wants too much just wants to be a Boston too much. You back going to be here at the expense of taking deal it's foolish and a four year seventy to eighty million dollar contract before which. At ball way below market terms years below market terms the average annual There's no upside here it sounded like a Red Sox blown away with a give you four years but here's point six million a year. Which is probably more than you gonna get I guarantee each and every year on the open market that it could at least. I still think Lester would walk away from crystal he'd say no. But I could look at that is saying the Red Sox in good faith effort to try to. Do with last year what they've done with other guys which is over pay an average annual dollars but try to take that discounted terms of the number years seventy. I can't say that. I can't see it as they came under years came under dollars 6177797937. Bill isn't busted up next they've built. They would subject. who visual. You know what about. You guys keep in the world. Could together okay. guys they look at the guys renewed deal if everybody involved. Make him have the option to. Who boarded deals rivals ordered to the guys will. Make it work. So real simple. So three years of his make sure Israelis and three years seventy million. And then assuming he stays healthy another two years at how much. Ordered me at all. That would come out to volley at 5110. About then you know what would actions. YouTube. 120. It was cute guys so. Yeah It it it any guaranteed dollars sport. That that's just not gonna work for the players work for last. Well hope what works right now what made two big guy a two year deal seven million. With a guarantee. Appeared to remain nimble. The two more years of targeted what are enviable. Well let's get. That that that the five year 120 million dollar contract. Where. OK I guess that that's reasonable but I mean you if you're guaranteeing the money that it's not three years in the two years to five years. And yet we could what three years didn't work out three years it will be created numerous believe that you develop very animated. You know. Yeah I mean I like well. I guess I can't get what you in there you know again trial period so to speak at three year seventy million dollar. You know test blown the CP states LP and see if he still producing. The news saying guaranteed fifty million after that which is five for once money. Why would John again you'd think about it okay hometown discount know we heard the operator gets excited about it. to get past the idea of a hometown discount meeting complete insanity. Seventy million dollars even over a three years average dollars a lot of money. But it still. 50% of what can get out in the open market. You know why would I take seventy million guaranteed even for three years when I could just double that six years guaranteed at 140 million. You know six I can get that extra seventy million dollars over three more seasons just to go out in the open market. That would be a great team friendly kind of idea but Lester were being eyed Joseph and Wakefield once the way HL. What they've done so much for the in the you know 78 years. That burning up I don't know are already up at. I agree with UN and the injury concern for me is that they're now we are talking about Clay Buchholz we'd be having added I merely different conversation. But with Lester even a year it was bad in 2012. Still pitch to plus innings. Yeah I mean you don't get a picture wondering about that party and you don't hate you guys brought there get a going to be offered. And I are I think I really like the attitude that you just want the behavior I don't understand why the Internet situation black. We're not talking about giving the guy a 140. I'm not all that with the amount of money more book like the object audit. Well he had I think the Red Sox kind of Hewitt in the regard as well that's why I wasn't completely floored when he said OK if we here opera was the most that they had. I'll put out there by the time they broke off negotiations. But I'd be and neighbor of 400. Yell now and a and a big. Average annual value a Ford seventy for is an opera that you know the players get a that's an opera that it's designed to be turned out. Yeah independent though they looked like but based on the yacht I don't know it. All the the PR stunt getting negative PR because I think I had tickets ridiculous they have any Lester did lie to me if he blocks away at the end of the day. And and the Red Sox look back and in the end flick back and say. And they could of they could negotiate they could out of spring training but the only opera percent beat the teams the only one's gonna look bad that's an. Aerial my opinion darker integrated you know integrated I'm sorry you know it made it. It's the same age and it did Dustin Pedroia has I can't think of his name off my head to similar Pedroia as we negotiated down discounts the This situation it is thought here we cannot I mean update completely done park are now completely. It sounds like till the end of the season got to do have an exclusive negotiating window. Went thanks for the college and they've exclusive negotiating window with Lester. After the season is over and that it's free agency. But you know in my mind even if the Red Sox were come back with a big number in the fall. But it even gets to. Reagents even gets to the point were other teams are our ticketing contracts are offers a Lester you're probably spending more than what you have spent. It just get the deal done now. You just avoid any possibility any any chance did you rate in the another team another suitor and unlike David Ortiz we can't you know we had a debate about Ortiz is going to be even a market that is. And I thought maybe lot of people but absolutely now. That's fine with Lester there's no debate right. I mean when I can debate the fact that it thirty year old going on 31 year old lefty it's starting pitcher with a great post season track records that market. We know that that's the case there's going to be money thrown at this. So you have the opportunity. To not only negotiate exclusively with him up or you even touch or even Free agency. It to get an offer on the table to sign this guy if they're not able losing the player beat. I signing into a deal that maybe goes outside their comfort zone because now they worry about free agency not to worry about other offers them. You could have made a better fate in my mind decide than these reported figures in at these numbers are right you know he's not taking. It's an it's designed to be refused to keep brought out their deceit it's a hit proper. I don't think organ necessarily buy that I think that this mark baseball banner that. That they and as long as you're in line with keeping Lester some cables don't want that at any high price and that's fine that's your opinion I disagree by. It any band that wants Jon Lester back is valued at his team. It and understand just what the market is looking for the seventy's at It's an insult. Text messages committed 37937. AT&T like. Texas is Red Sox have too many pitches in the system they had the upper hand. Now that it's does its thing is too many pitchers in this is have a lot of starting pitching depth they have a lot of potential. As allowed by hope and is better than Jon Lester obese Kerr shot why not. But you know what you have in Jon Lester. You don't know what you have yet Henry and that goes to my point of if you're gonna have some of these cost control pre arbitration arbitration guys up. Lester got the money to do. He could have a a lot of money coming off the books over the next read of where years. Yet a pitcher John Lackey threw for 500000 dollars on next season. In NA and it not a salary cap sport but it sport I care about a 189 million dollar luxury tax threshold for the at least they're from last. I that to take three years the market's already at five to six. years as Lester won't get 140 on the open market I disagree I think he will. I the Texas is give Lester one of these two deals. Or for a hundred or seven and 12611. if the offer candidate for for a hundred then I would say you know the Sox made an effort. They made shots try to sign him and take battled down discounted terms of the year when it for par seventy it. and a few text is going back to a couple calls as a wide world Lester take three year deal and a trial period. We can get five years guaranteed and I completely agree this is an interesting text here get this one before the break. I you know I'm not entirely sure why everyone has the phrase 110 for five I should get it done because he had no idea. What will get it done in theory. Yet that would be a hometown discount. 111 for five years an option six and eight I have no way of knowing. Whether that would get it done so he's looking at 5110. I just keep coming back that number because I look at. What the market would probably and keep going back to guys like Cole Hamels you know reasonable comparable to last year's regular season numbers I see six. In 144. EC 23 and change per year so take roughly that average annual value. 43 in his case it's going to take a year back it five years old hometown discount. But he's not leaving and and the billions of dollars That's why I come back to that number I'll get it done I have no idea what I'd be willing to go to say. 150 over 520 million a year probably. Start pushing diablo or we'll talk. You see what the number but a number I have in mind. And a lot of people have in mind they think 22 million a year twenty to 22 million a year years and college day. Five years a 10210 million dollars 6177797937. The point though I had no idea we don't know. What gets I can tell you this though. Ward seven he doesn't get it on told you that before knowing. That that was the for the Jon Lester turned out we get back to your calls coming up next we'll talk war. A Red Sox get to the Bruins as well and what touch and the Celtics before the end of the show as well get to 4 o'clock Chris Blondie with Sports Radio. WE yeah.

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Transcript - will not be 100% accurate

How are now works as he is good standards. Well watchdog board this guy bullish stairs. Itself. -- experienced in the year I think. You'll I did well a sports insider. They come there and now here for. -- Stearns on the WEEI Sports Radio network. Happy Sunday night do you all unhappy. Mother's Day to everybody here on Sunday. May twelfth. Hi everybody I'm what Stearns back for another sports Sunday night on WB EI. And we've got an action packed show lined up for you John -- set the tone for us today the Red Sox not helping out the Bruins playing as we speak. We got it all going on so let's stir the pot let's see which you. Would like to talk about first the ball. You know the number if you don't 6177797937. One more time at 6177797937. Not that you care if you're out there and calling in. We're having a little visual trouble with -- -- call screener all that means view is that the patient. If you call up but you talk to army -- -- now. He will screen number one say this every week but you need to understand this this is a disclaimer. To be screened as a painful process the DN will try to make it as painless as possible. Once we get screamed into the Q. Ready to go win kind of think of get greater ride the bull. Once you're there OK usually I can see you in the pen getting -- into the sweat that beads comic I can't see that anymore. So be patient I call you Jim in your fill. Fight call you cam in your John that's a problem but will figure out. Have a little problem with our call screener would not have a problem with a text line the AT&T -- -- is -- 37. 937. Net 37937. To ten you're taxed him. On the AT&T text. Shall we talk about well talk about at all and we've got a bunch of guests lined up talk about it whipped us. -- would like talk about it with you. Red Sox and Bruins -- first and foremost on our minds because those of the two seasons that are going gone. Celtics might be next because that season is still going on the Celtics are done. And end the patriots and talks and patriots tonight and I'll tell you why just so so start your Red Sox. What's up. 6177797937. That's the simple question what's up how did the Red Sox. Flip this witching day and make it a bad church. How big go from ten games over 518. And eight. In the month of April. Now all of a sudden their former date and the month of may in part of the way. Am more road games coming up in May and they do home games they just went -- -- -- -- -- seven game stay. Really pitching and starting pitching. What's up. With -- Red Sox are you worried is it too early -- playing with house money when they went eight candidates so -- -- goal. Eight in eighteen in this month maybe 500 and then you know you'll see where their outcome GO. I'm not sure actually Iran will talk about a but the Red Sox as of tonight. After their latest loss to the Toronto blue edges. -- -- you trying to channel the silver -- that's my style -- said you that one of the Toronto -- was going to win. We take the blue jays wouldn't. It's it's it's Boston Toronto bruins' blue jays brought. Red Sox blue jays. Should be brought closures and ruins. May suffice you bombing in my crystal ball told you wanna -- -- a team that went. We take the blue jays a five home runs and Ryan Dempster would his first bad start. Again good look at his starts look at his game for that. First -- on buying him. By the way compared to a lot of other teams in baseball Red Sox are cranking through this five man rotation. Without a lot of bad starts. Back to back without two or three bad start within five and you get those during the season. So while it's frustrating to be in my opinion about the to a five -- while I'm as frustrated as you. While they're four and eight in the month of may. To go from eighteen and eight. To 22 and sixty now. Not in first place anymore I'm frustrated. I'm not scared. I don't like that -- and and is out for the season with a torn flexor tendon. By the way. We hardly knew he may never Wear red sexual -- of free agent next. Who knows he's got to go to see doctor James Andrews next week I don't like. Andrew Bailey may be back this week but probably not going to be healthy I don't like to Junichi -- -- Who is good he's dead end is the latest example of all by the way closing AA baseball game is different. I'm sorry. The people it's able to the seventh inning is just important bridge in the ninth inning for the Bill James freaks and wanna throw all the stats say I'm sorry standing on the mound with -- game on the line in the ninth inning is different. And -- I was the latest example to do it -- in the latest example before that. Toilet is out he's a phenomenal season. Last year what is it -- material into the Red Sox stem the tide with him at what do you do. If you're the Red Sox in their closing. Situation six on 77797937. What's facing the Red Sox right now is a day off tomorrow thank goodness. And then a three city nine game road trip. In Tampa by the day Minnesota by the lakes and Chicago by butch Maguire is in Russian division street that's what's facing. The Red Sox right now -- nine game three city road trip and by the way after tomorrow's off day. -- games in twenty days fourteen on the road six at home. Not to the Red Sox -- patients on the market today they got some work to do to be a 500 team a better because they're four games under 512 games at right. Source part of the Red Sox let's talk about what's going on if you wanna talk about specific guys. How about three guys offensively Ortiz Ellsbury in now. What do I mentioned. Because -- three top four guys in the order. OK number 151. Girl in three -- top offensive guys in order. And their numbers exponentially. A completely different in the month of may 179 for Ortiz to a four for Ellsbury to twenty for Napoli. After really good. Months of April for all three outs the inning for Ortiz not -- starting pitching -- Dempster threw up -- a horse point game today but so that they're starting pitching -- he's good in the start -- -- -- -- -- stand to. The bullpen has got some problems. Their defense has flipped the switch in a bad way. So let's talk about the Red Sox and we'll see what's going ruins. A -- what's going on -- -- -- 742 to go in the first period in Toronto in game six. After the New York Rangers forced a game seven. Against the Washington apples and a home in New York Toronto Maple Leafs are trying to do the same thing against the Bruins I'll keep you updated on that. So we'll talk about that coming. 10 o'clock hour speaking of baseball on the Red Sox Pedro Gomez good friend ESPN reporting you've seen them. You know he might not know something's about Pedro he's covered baseball for a long long time to talk tea leaves at Fenway this week about his impressions of the Red Sox. When -- talked to him also. About what's going on a Major League Baseball -- -- stories about MLB. And we think might -- teams to be you have thoughts -- questions for Pedro Pedro gonna join us at 10 o'clock. -- once we will talk the Bruins and again it's nothing nothing in the first period still Bruins of that one power play. I did not amount to much on the power play it back and forth action so far. And if you don't have a chance to watch the Bruins game for driving around stay on any 93 point seven. I'll keep you updated on the Bruins will not let you go for gold scored dual mode if there's a -- hopefully you'll not get to play by play. But I will give you updates offside six point eight to go on the first nothing nothing jogger just brought an -- get called for an offside little miscommunication. Football. That's right we're gonna talk some patriots 9 o'clock Christopher price WEEI. Dot com is going to join us -- -- would be talking football. In May in early may 02 point. Point being that this is the least busiest month of the NFL season I think. April was the draft. June they start having no TH July is training camp may all months in football is probably the least busy month. A good time to talk about -- remind you. About a lot it's gone on -- they've added to this team. The draft this far enough away my game forgot offensively. -- dole Donald Jones Mike Jenkins but to sign another receiver Lavelle Hawkins did you did you miss -- Julian battle re signs of fashionable -- -- when -- block acquired in the trade Leon Washington signed as a free agent drafted. Aaron Dobson Josh -- those two rookie receivers Jake Ballard tight end -- Wes Welker Brandon Lloyd did he would it. Defensively. Armon Armstead the guy from the CFL along with Tommy Kelly talk about those two interior defensive lineman. But we well Aqib Talib brought back Adrian Wilson brought in Patrick Chung is gone. Ras I Dowling and -- on Wilson guys like that they need to take the next step early to talk about this but let's refresh our memory and talks and football. Draft picks on the defensive side Jamie Collins Logan Ryan Iran Harmon. Michael Buchanan a linebacker in the seven other guys from Rutgers we got -- surgery. We got Julian Edelman and walking boot reported by the globe this week we got TERRELL OWENS on a football field with Tom Brady this -- did you miss that. And I look at some other questions Christopher price gonna join us at 9 o'clock the talks of football in May. So we will do that -- 61777979837. Celtics. Both Celtics are out. Lot of interesting articles W he died dot com the globe Harold Lotta people give him Boston's image articles about the future of the Celtics. Most revolving around Raj on Rondo. Actual -- Celtics also talks and NBA playoffs it's -- Stanley Cup Playoffs beyond the Bruins and the Celtics. Hoping to hear from Ryan McDonough tonight. -- McDonough is bombed one of will McDonough sons and if you missed it this week Ryan McDonald. Has been one of those people you don't hear a lot about who -- helped Danny Ainge build the Celtics into what they are today. Ryan McDonough. Who is bomb from the famous McDonald family one of the sons -- -- tarnish on Madonna's brother. Was a -- within the Celtics organization has not got a promotion. He is now the -- general manager of the Phoenix Suns and nabbed an effort into trying to hold Ryan this weekend. He's moving all this stuff to Phoenix I'm sure he's on the phone -- moves right now wanna congratulate him on the gig. When -- get a chance for you to hear from him. Arm about Celtics about the -- about the NBA playoffs and more open it will talk to -- on tonight's sometime between 81130. As the show rules so that's the tables set. Get the Red Sox off tomorrow. Hopefully we do not every game seven in Boston tomorrow if the Maple Leafs win tonight. By the way 336 to go on the first period now still scoreless. On there will be a game seven in Boston tomorrow night and we just had a cross check penalty on looks like Adam Quaid with 336 to go. And the Bruins are gonna be shorthanded. Keep you up to date on that nothing nothing. 332 there now showing all those people outside they don't they say they don't have the scarfs anymore -- they get the towels. So the Pittsburgh Steelers must commanding given them some shots at those -- -- the week looks like this possible game seven tomorrow night at the garden. Red -- off then Tuesday Wednesday Thursday. Red Sox in Tampa Lackey Lester and do bronco on the mound to release scheduled to be. More David Price and Cobb so Wednesday night is the marquee game Jon Lester against David Price. In Tampa Red Sox again have lost eight of their last nine. And are looking to stem the tide they go on the road may start in Tampa. Aren't so let's go to the phones again the number is 617779. 7937. The AT&T text -- 37937. Let's start with. Bill Newton and bill the only reason I know was bill Newton is because they enjoy alcohol because I'm -- I'm driving blind here you can appreciate that. I don't want it need to be used second see your name usually the -- like bill in Newton. And he wants to talk about Tom Brady's future would have -- -- no idea that you talk about I don't know any about -- -- -- talk about pitching and they got some real serious problems I mean they've got. Great starting pitcher and at the top of the rotation. 34 and five is that coming into play as being questionable bail last couple rotations. But more importantly their bullpen is in some serious. Disarray. And that bank that the dollar is going to be that close is rarely a real real issue going forward we'll. Can match a little bit so much talk about this I'll. I think I agree with what you're saying generally but I think you've been a little -- when you say their bullpen is in disarray. I'll take it down a notch. I would say it's in disarray if there isn't a plan. And there isn't some arms on the horizon I I don't think it's. To be in disarray means that you know there's no hole to me. They'll you know -- -- it you know -- you're right ticket not okay so is also down at a point there is consult -- down it's down what it. You know they're they're big money yeah close to that they've prodding gone for the seat and Bailey is another -- history what what what arm problems. A dollar two years -- it is surgery. It sure still feeling and if the the starting pitcher -- Does not -- strong deep into the game what Foley Arctic figure perhaps some issues. -- agree with you because it's really a mentality I mean if you got first of all let's agree that Lester and Buchholz at the top. As a 12 combination I'm not seeing either one he's Justin Verlander I'm not seen either one is demonstrated on a consistent basis Stephen BCC sabathia. Or even some of the top pitchers and some of the other contenders but when you add up. Buchholz and Lester on the way they started in their history in their age and everything else. I'll take that as a 12 would anyone to in the American League is that fair. OK so so it especially and especially when you add in by the -- the Bruins are stemming the tide on the power play so far in Toronto was. Feverishly putting shots on net when you when you added all up and you look at. The to a damn that's their strength and that's a pretty good strength again compared to the other contenders they go toe to toe -- Buchholz and last. Now let's look at the other three starters when you look at Lackey and I don't care what do. Do you wanna put them in because Dempster is number three right now -- brought his number of foreign -- number five by definition and by numbers in the rotation I would put lacking in Dempster. As three and four no matter what and do brought and whoever Alan Webster or whoever else comes up. Arm as number five I'm worried about them because John Farrell has got -- it feels like. Farrell has imposed his will once again on this staff and him in one he -- have got the starters heading in the right direction even during this 215 homestand doesn't it. OK so let's go to your point about the bullpen. The problem is okay there is a domino effect Hanrahan. -- And by the way I'm not sure how many articles you read today but Ron Borges had an interesting article about the money they spent. Losing Papelbon bunch of people that it rob Bradford had its image stuff when he -- dot com as well as Alex beer. Com. -- wrote about Pete Abraham wrote about closes situation and made a point that the Sox paid 23 million dollars so far. And it's less than two years. To replace toppled one now as a matter perspective Papelbon is making twelve point five million a year. For the Philadelphia Phillies so they've already spent as much. To try and replaced topple -- on and you don't they couldn't assuming Hanrahan was gonna get hurt but just as a matter of fact as a matter of a you know. This discussion. They've already spent as much money trying to replace Papelbon as he's making in two years. So there's going to be a problem with him -- hand out the problem is. -- now you're asking Bailey to close it's not a problem because Bailey can close it's not a problem because Bailey's demonstrating close in the American League and when healthy. This year has been really good clothes for the Red Sox to your point Nobel. It is a big problem because you're relying on him to be your closer. And the one thing that's been consistent about him is his inconsistency because of injuries right. And I had to step that again that steps up big problem you know that -- it is just has to brought in more hours to watch some speed on their pitchers. Again I don't know what the true I'll put them are. You're gonna have to lean on them now a little bit in the I don't know what they did erupted at task. And you know it all. Brought to Croatia in the -- quacking -- right now and if you put your your victory start there the second marker the year prior gun I call them that's a marathon but. In oh April seems like a lifetime ago in in -- that this is such huge nine game. And you're right fourteen other. That the next. What you on the road that doesn't get any easier right now in the the other teams in the east there are. A quietly get their act I -- I still think Baltimore oppressed even a division -- -- opinion are. You know Jerry that the Yankees Tampa -- are great pitch in Toronto that we gonna hit the ball -- here. They're pitching. Suspect. A Baltimore right now to me looks like the most complete team in the stake out strong close they -- young starting pitcher they got some good -- They play -- Defense -- like real. Tight one running changed. You all flee the Sox can turn around and do that but I. You know my my barometer but there was you know the middle of June to see where we're patent. I'm going to be optimistic about it but it just seems to be a little bit tough right now. Yes so and so approached a bill let me ask you about the I am. Did the bullpen situation to me you have two choices one is in May. You go out -- because progressive and find another arm too is. You going to your system and you try to find another run out the obvious answer is Daniel Bard but. Hard if you look at what he's done recently has been absolutely horrible. Diplomatic amazing it's amazing that it's making them move last year our starter from reliever. Be in the morning about a set up men and baseball too. Just basically not on how to throw baseball again eighteen months later is just mind boggling it really is the question becomes a guy like I don't know what you got I don't know. You'll have to look within the system there -- teams out there right now ready to turn around is Wheeling and dealing MA. That's not gonna happen to late July. You have to look within the system and you know Webster. You know there was -- pitched a great game the first time coming up great speed on Obama that -- lit up like a pinball machine last time. And our young -- -- learn all I mean maybe that's an option but. -- ticket that'll within the system and again I'm on -- show down there right now. Well I'll leave you with fists when you say. Webster I think that may be an answer it's not ideal. But here's what I say if you make a decision that you think Webster has the stuff to come up and learn here. In other words could be a 500 pitcher this year. You want to learn up and a Major League instead of the minor league if you think he's developed -- -- point. That starts to -- -- questions so to me what it says is you could think about trading Felix to brought. So if you made the decision was to follow my logic and many you'd never trade pitching but you're getting pitching your return you could get something Purdue brought. A lefty with the demonstrated ability he has. May be a National League team takes a flyer you get a power arm. A guy like mark and Lance and not -- not gonna get him back but you trading young pitcher like -- brawn whose team got under their control. You're gonna get some value maybe get a prospect of another round to going to the bullpen if you think Webster. Can step in could you do have other arms down on the miners also Matt Barnes is -- a little ways away you do leave yourself a little thin though would you would you make got kind of move it's basically. Somewhat established starter for rising. Starter and relief farm would you make that type of move. Not right at the moment aren't weight I would wait there's I think it it if it all again that is where -- always -- -- -- -- be. Become out of bed at some point I think he's got to stop -- and at some of their big ticket items and start making a package together the mobile. -- -- -- -- -- Arena debt debt debt. That that's a sore subject with me a couple of years ago you know they had a chance that we'll make sure animal dumb I I don't know what it is with this man. Eight hits a power it now you know it's the heat he's not at the -- are -- great he can steal a base by. He's you know for a lead off me and he's not -- not he's not getting on base in in we need to lead off guy yeah this this offense movement. You know not let get away from the pitching part of -- in Auckland submit the score runs located awoke that will cover up some of their headaches what there that the lack of pitching that they haven't. Right now because and I didn't it's exposing that you need them more. Bill good call happy Mother's Day. -- -- that -- from Newton speaking of Jacoby Ellsbury have some thoughts about him. Coming up -- get into that in just a little bit and the first period now Bruins staved off that flurry by the Maple -- on the power play Noble's. Bruins have taken eight shots to the Maple Leafs seven. Toronto and the Bruins are banging each other around is nothing nothing at the end of the one game six in Toronto -- -- a close. This series out and we'll keep you updated I will tell you. I was at -- im gonna break right now we'll tell you -- that a family function today and wisdom comes from the strangest places eight year old. Anthony Ross. And seven year old Tyler -- huge Bruins came up to. I Shinawatra -- game -- -- Surrogacy beginning so why Lisa whoever wins the first faceoff wins again. I should happen to begin in a series -- and trust and an eight and seven -- -- I have to go back and look. But I was driving uniting get to see it and I heard the puck was in the Toronto -- some assumed Ronald won the opening face so we'll see -- opening Anthony. Entity. Irrational. And Tyler Michelle -- wrong. I'm open the wrong but they're eight and seven years old so -- wise beyond their years. So we'll see if you'll write in if Toronto won the first faceoff if they win the game just follow that time. I'm what Stearns this is sports Sunday night we -- a lot lineup for you stick around me at 1130. Enjoy out taking your calls this is WE.

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