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Curt Schilling, ESPN: Shaughnessy is an "asshat"

May 10, 2013|

Curt Schilling joins Mut and Merloni to discuss the Ortiz allegations, Clay Buchholz's use of sunscreen, and John Lackey.

Transcript - will not be 100% accurate

I'm joining us on the eighteenth the hot line -- kicking ass on baseball tonight and ESPN is Curt Schilling cart not live Dario -- up. Spent some time here talking about David Ortiz and what -- Shaughnessy wrote -- let me give you two words Dan Shaughnessy -- I know you -- -- Well you know it was him. I love David I had a ball in the depth tonight I think a lot of what -- dominant -- has been personally driven. But he didn't ask a question that people are announced themselves. In an end and that it's apart again and I keep on back to but -- as a player this is our fault. Well we did this week but -- -- topic we we have a chance to stop that we didn't. I think the way it was done was kind of keep -- I think you put it that there are there are people -- that very question. What I'm not gonna get the position this year defending Dan curve but I would say. Would you be more offended by your Dan writing that from some laptop computer somewhere or doing it the way he did which is going and actually talking to Ortiz. Face to face asking the questions directly. Well yeah I mean that that if you're gonna do that that's I think that's the only way you can do it and and and have an ounce of respect. Bit. Well you know. -- -- Told me that that there and I apologize for the birds ought to have a gun to shoot them in the -- -- My own totally within you know when there's a problem. If you look around and figure out the source when there's a problem at times over the only common thread that problem is you know. You need to figure out where you don't wrong why is it's always at every time we talked about articles like this are so it's always about what they're writing them. And then about whooping -- yeah I'm obviously I'm exaggerate a little bit. But that's the tired -- -- -- players are frustrating part of because he's almost looking to. Differences is that it is important to be a part of the story as it is to write this story and epithets at players -- that. Why aren't I -- you're saying you know I actually thought it was fair I mean I think we'd done it to ourselves I think that anybody. That is is getting older and continue to play at a high level we were talking before about. Oh it is unfortunate because you wanted to get off to a tough start -- are always bat speed is down and it comes out and you know the four point six is -- I mean he's finding some holes right now there's no question about as a -- it's up to a good start. And the frustration of guys. And we've seen in -- there's a lot of speculation chill about certain individuals but. There's somebody out there that's clean this being accused of looked at differently. Of the -- more but there's got to want somebody the problem is well if you if you go through the top. Like the top ten players hitters and pitchers sort generate some like eight of the -- have been -- at some point -- bit but it. Again we have a chance in -- a long multiple collective bargaining agreement and as a former player rep I'm one of those guys we could have stopped this and we did it in. And I think a lot of that was it was night activity I think there were some ignorant. But I think in the day it was you know out of sight out of mind in and it's coming back to haunt us and it will be. The reports departed and there will be a grandfather clause so that's it and it will be this group that generated in the older players as they ago. You're gonna see this column this this this Q are they around guys like that and and I want David Ortiz to -- he's one of my closest friend he's one of my favorite teammates. But I again I I'm not sure -- was announced in the course of a repeat border and so. I guess the bigger picture Lou and I get into year -- -- -- -- -- don't you feel bad for those guys that are falsely accused and a big picture. I kind of sandwich you said that they those guys as a league and the ones that -- there players that we had Sergio -- abdominal. I have a hard time feeling bad for them because the league itself in the players' union. Dragged their feet for so long to increase the testing. You know what -- but it didn't turn it on I'm gonna tell you that I don't know -- we dragged our feet as much as I don't think we have a handle on what how big problem once. I can remember it was I played with guys that don't know when I look back yeah they were cheating but at the time night -- I have my -- like the way we all had arm might -- I wasn't worried about what might center fielder was doing in the off season I would get ready IQ that he caught the ball to get hurt. It and and you eat it I wanted to bury your head in the sand mentality. But if you want one of the guys that want it it wasn't something. People. People have this tidbit I think in the club also -- -- -- of there's there's twelve guys in the club out getting dressed and there's thirteen guys in the bath and should not. And it was not like that in and it was never like I didn't you know let them. Would you say do you think it's probably. Can you -- wasted a 25% of the players in the big -- using what I was playing. Yeah maybe 20% yes but that I never ever -- you know not what I never saw it liquid form. I never -- in soap opera that doesn't. -- buy tickets were using I know what I hope I never saw it wasn't something that was out that you didn't. Also something to operate -- planted and it didn't want players that want doing it can no. Because that's admitting you're not good enough support. What are Biden. Now with the testing -- they have found beginning -- naive to think that in all of sports not just baseball we know that's the one it always under the microscope. That it's still a -- ways. -- went and I do believe that the blood including blood work was a game changer. Because now. Here's what I would think now know what you get caught you're either Manny Ramirez dom. Or you're going to such extreme Detroit he'd been beat up what has that you deserve whatever it right this -- that -- It's obviously not gonna stop everybody. But but when when the players association and rightfully so I agreed. To Duke blue blood testing into the -- Betsy it was a game changer for me. It was something that I never ever thought the players association -- it up approved will be OK with it took -- possibly that. In terms of this team and you had speculated a couple days ago that. The idea of sun screen is not the craziest thing in the clubhouse and my guess is that when Jeff passed and storing Yahoo! came out that. It's bull frog and it's on screen and that's what. He accused clay of using that that wasn't a big surprise -- the school want across. Nobody Q I. It's not what you accuse -- -- using something. Yeah. Yeah. -- -- and the other one whoever hospitable woman whose lives in -- sort of felt kind of ironic that the thing. I did it. Mark and I didn't have been written quite that it would tell you there's no ball -- harder to grip -- baseball and then I don't. It is the hardest in the life it's environment in the paper what in particular I couldn't. I know saliva cotton optimistic them all the time you needed something to keep just to keep an acoustic equipment. Can't cheat by getting extra grip on the ball. At UT you you can -- -- getting the ball -- in wet. And it that was quite was trying to do it with a but he would have been doing the opposite of what he actually did it. All the way you want you want to want to be almost like -- -- it will look like water. And and he was actually use and that's up to keep a grip right and can hit that he doesn't you have got back spinal care that that. We don't use something to be back tomorrow and back on the mound. But got back super gripped the roster doesn't work unless there's moisture -- football -- guarantees you know I'm gonna be able to keep it sticky. Yeah. I don't think. That's the problem ruins talking about him cheating in those get an extra grip -- the -- -- -- it would have really. Consider getting a grip on the ball cheating unless you were just blatant but -- -- all over your face and he was a -- and you've got a Smart not let me ask you this. Guys in the big leagues right now he gave him a good job best way to put -- under under had only think would know what to do with it. Nine or not I would pick and a ten of them would hit the mascot. It would be. Looked at but I never knew the reverse way I never knew how. How or what pine tar would do as I know I used it. But I don't know how that was TD garden no huddle -- you cheated with that I knew all the I was -- all the other ways and I saw all the other way. I thought some unbelievably. Ingenious ways to cheat but I I can never do it I I was I was good about it I didn't. Just a little -- It was not something that doesn't look -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- needed -- -- what the -- -- -- -- -- my hand and it and it spit balls almost yeah almost like a knuckleball you have no idea where it's -- ago. Talking to Curt Schilling we open the short talk and John Lackey last maker not sure you saw -- outing but I thought was the best. John Lackey is looked until he's your ground ball on a center feel what you think -- -- out. I agree and I think you know he talked himself -- he -- the team that game. And I'm sure he didn't have that that's that's fundamentals. Any -- asset after the game said I don't make it up plants are lost. And that's it but but from a pitching perspective you've got to be ecstatic about what you saw. Of him but that he he. As someone who had always had -- we've always -- -- issues in the sense that I was always trying to stay at a certain comparable weight. He is lighter than I've ever seen him and he looks better than I've ever seen him from not just not just physically pit stop. The ball coming out and it different his breaking ball -- -- fast or is it it got more velocity better commit all the things you hope he would have he has been. You know that that. I keep blocking them and I keep wondering. Where that where the hole -- to keep wondered where where do you come to problem's going to be obviously injuries are everybody has that one. And -- deal with the bullpen stop now and I think that they've done enough to help themselves. This doesn't mean that that's gonna have a -- it's going to be upon summer. That because you've got Lester Buchholz -- I think both of kind of figured out gotten back to where they need to be which which for the most part. You're not gonna be many of these five out of six is six out of seven on the bad side because those guys are so good they are going to be in streaks stoppers and -- starters. And yardage and number three. The competitive be a lot of fun they need -- that to step up and -- ridiculous -- -- in big big games and compete. Yeah and Demps is another one it's given you kind of the outings that just like lack it. -- -- -- Dempster I mean numbers are about -- brought you just mentioned -- know the kid comes up Webster if the look impressive at the one outing but. Lot of times it's speculation last night that maybe they felt like he was tipping you finally had a game on video and that could have been the case who knows. But Phillips to brought -- I see the -- to go down five miles an hour -- shown up in camp out of shape and get ready for opening day but you gotta wonder you know winners swears to commit we've seen this from him before. Well -- this is what happened template here -- that I have and I've never seen a pitcher show up at spring training behind the curve. Be able -- up during the season. You can't do it it's not possible to do YouTube because you're you're literally. Spending four days between starts trying to be able to get out and pitch again instead of trying to maintain it and prepare. And for a young -- it's it's the death it's the -- the best one because. I don't need my young guys to be maturing between start and Dennis. To be incorporating. Something small something new something unique in preparation for their next game. When you're young guy -- slop out of our recipient spring training. You're literally spent the entire you're playing catch and you look back on the year and and I played with guys like this you look they look back on the golf. While the rights to myself. And the and then -- -- the upside is generally for the most part it never happens again -- but you're you don't want that now. And her great stuff appreciate you in the birds joining us today. And I Curt Schilling is human ESPN's baseball tonight on the -- -- libelous AT&T. Orgy LTE speeds up to ten times faster than three GAT and T rethink possible. I think it would be an idea the rest of the show here that is gonna give that up -- Just for loss 6177797. Not 237. Warrior phone calls Pierre McGuire NBC sports and the Bruins. Yeah.

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