WEEI>On Demand>>Hey Schilling and Colin Cowherd! Nice straw man argument about Clay Bucholz and cheating

Hey Schilling and Colin Cowherd! Nice straw man argument about Clay Bucholz and cheating

May 7, 2013|

We listen in on some audio, where Colin Cowherd tells Curt Schilling that the Boston media was ripe with people calling Clay Bucholz a cheater... and Curt agreed! We wonder if Colin wants a mulligan, because as far as we can tell there were maybe one or two people in the Boston media making a big deal about this.

Related Audio:

  1. Matt Chatham with Dale and Holley: Remembering the Boston Marathon Bombing 4-15-14

    Tue, 15 Apr 2014

    We speak with Matt Chatham, who re-tells his story from that fateful Monday and looks ahead to brighter things, including this year's marathon.

  2. Reflecting on the One-Year Anniversary of the Boston Marathon Bombing 4-15-14

    Tue, 15 Apr 2014

    Dale, Michael and Steve Lyons reflect back on the event last year, and the good that has taken place since then as Boston came together.

  3. David Abel of the Boston Globe : Remembering Martin Richard through the eyes of the Richard family 4-15-14

    Tue, 15 Apr 2014

    We speak with David Abel of the Boston Globe, who penned the incredible piece on the Richard Family in this past weekend's Boston Globe.

  4. Steve Lyons with Dale and Holley: Sox have a rough weekend of injuries, instant replays and losses to the Yankees 4-14-14

    Mon, 14 Apr 2014

    We discuss the Sox and their saga from this past weekend. Time to panic? Maybe not, but the injuries, bad calls and sub-par perfomances are adding up.

Transcript - will not be 100% accurate

We followed Clay Buchholz and and whatever it is arm -- what do we call -- this -- -- -- Garth who skate thank you since the Garth who was was one of his biggest critics. He pitches last night doesn't pitch particularly well but I don't I don't think it was in any way related to whatever happened the week before. But Curt Schilling goes on -- with Colin Cowherd this morning you could hear it on now on 850 WEEI. And says this. You know it's I've -- -- -- -- the Saturday the Boston media station you know. And I kind of defended Clay Buchholz because I said you know he poured water on his head he's got -- and and garner oh okay. But I watched the Boston media occurred. They say basically they all said yeah we think he's cheating I was totally shocked by the Boston -- -- -- it but it but everything else who they don't have the ability when a lot of them don't have the ability pretty -- can't -- story they got to be you've got to be given. An end and that's what might have -- -- a lot of them. That that story that he's cheating and allow more -- he's not. An end. Very artistic world think that it's almost like I -- lap of the same where laugh when people say he meant to hit -- and -- to load the bases are loaded. It's been there's been increased spending pennies these juice in the ball. He's got more than enough moisture still without having any -- know exactly what was on his arm. And everybody tried to do with the same thing and it's not you trying to decrypt. And -- was doing it in the -- I would tell you right now the hardest stadium in Major League Baseball decrypt the baseball the pitcher is in Toronto. Because it's so try to manner. And I knew I have for me I was sick I got -- cotton mouth a lot of times there I could not keep my fingers. It's quick statement they keep -- just a typical plot point goes to put a low ball. -- for a guy that relies on a curve ball and -- -- and can manipulate the ball the way he does that's huge. So you -- up what should -- its if you -- the rotten -- if you put. What's the suntan -- that. -- -- People bull frog on and you can you put -- in the attempt rather run it'll turn darker it didn't -- and it it creates a substantive logic of the baseball. That's pretty good information I never heard the -- tried Toronto theory not a dry county is just a dry sort. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- has Curt Schilling almost can't cover earlier this morning are things am -- a few things number one. Powers that he was watching that's an okay good for NASA that he has that they have viewership. Of the national radio host blah. If one guy on -- and said he was cheating on who set to be Abraham zednik a fertile. Make the Boston haven't heard. Three people. In the Boston media. Today. I buckles is cheating. Boston media is saying -- and of course unless the gore who is the newest member of the S and -- I'm confused by the -- and of course straw man wanted to take -- course take out all your take on the Boston media on our show last week without us even bringing it up yeah yeah all the way to create stories immigrant. When in doubt start shelling attacks the Boston hosts yet. The Boston media -- miss. Like five members of the -- three members and two members of the Boston media who said he's he's cheating. And it is watching Justin did when he Dennis -- -- And just passionately and Jeremy -- Nazi Jerry Remy passionately defend them. And I just think it's a flawed premise if you -- rip the Boston media because -- purchase and -- to -- -- fine. But I. I don't think this was an -- -- decision by the Boston media to make a big story at our local collar lobbed in lobbed it up their forms thanks I was watching NASA and and I would surprise -- give Kurt some credit because he did today it's not everybody in the Boston that's fine okay fine -- eternal. Delegates you haven't heard too but maybe there out there may -- I haven't heard them I guess I'm loud but there hey guys out there that do that. But the car comes up with a couple of very interesting. Pieces of information the first being that it's incredibly dry in Toronto -- not heard that either Colin -- OK fine so when it's dry you need to find a way to get -- -- -- tacking this on to your fingers. And any he actually says what he believes the substance. Resin and -- But only to a Texas as Jim Rice and it. And -- -- -- Jim Rice and -- buckles is feeling so he thinks it's. So -- suntan lotion as curt Schilling's fair and -- suntan lotion mix it -- Resin. And then it in darkened and you have some type of substance that will allow you have a grip on a baseball. Feasible thought that's what it is in Schilling knows what it is. It comes back to our original question we asked last week morass encumbered -- this. Do other managers. Say anything about it the challenge Clay Buchholz. Do umpires. Go lots and amount make a little bit and say you know you got something you can't have that you -- have to yet go to dug out. Now wipe that off you're I'll write that off your arm and continue to pitch as an American let you have ads don't think it's a big deal of the -- most people -- saying. Now this -- says you guys you guys are are being homers he cheated. Okay. What I am saying is. Nobody that's a different art. What do you think you -- and what I'm saying. We haven't heard haven't heard anybody. Say that. No winning baseball. -- you mean I never heard anybody I have heard about in the Boston media failure Clay Buchholz is a cheater. And I definitely haven't heard anybody in -- -- I'm at Toronto Blue Jays are announcers did. The blue jays didn't argument didn't hitters didn't. I watched the Boston media current pace they basically they all said yeah we think he's cheating. If they say it you know drugs like -- -- overtime and that will more time -- but I watched the Boston media current. Yeah basically basically they all said yeah we think he's cheating they always add on that's -- We all said. Because we all gathered together on NASA I mean I love coward he is he is a brilliant brilliant radio -- But facts are not always. Is to. He's not always -- is the wielding his arguments. On full picture of sometimes it's I saw one thing I've extrapolated something enormous from it and now ions I'm gonna roll it out as if it is 100%. True. And that's clearly not the case here. At most there was a segment. Of the Boston media. -- believed Clay Buchholz was cheating in order to maybe pump their own tires help their ratings are sell papers. At most there was a small percentage but I certainly didn't get the impression that Boston started a witch hunt. For Clay Buchholz to figure out whether or not he was cheating not -- -- launch. Went to come back in speaking of facts have to come back and play. Some of the audio from our from our Tom -- to interview last week. Because I was trying to get him. A guy who has no attachment it has note that attachment to the Boston red sock especially since he has gone so yes -- -- anymore. The Red Sox. He said he watched the video he saw something on Clay Buchholz is arm on this form that wasn't there last year. It appears to be a substance on that left arm that was there on his right arm had a whole breakdown so -- you saw this poverty -- Do you think something's going on here do you think they -- is using this to manipulate the baseball. Do you think he's cheating wouldn't go there. Didn't say -- buckles is -- This said it's ultimately I'm OK Jack Morse is willing to go. Anyway so far to say that this fifth commonplace in baseball not a member of the most immediate number Gucci. National media member. Purdue coaching not buckles. In his in New Hampshire it's up -- Got up a what are your -- that are immediate today. Is. That he's gaining anything that it's commonplace in big ball. That's pretty much everybody brings -- using tapping. Into it grip on the ball. You know that -- -- -- any like cap that's attempting I think that's like. It's that important debate while -- at a -- that's okay whatever you know at Oakmont. Obviously a bad week because there and part of a lot. -- Whatever it. But exactly who we talked about Andy writes -- what -- the to miss direction play. Yeah. -- giving -- the -- commonplace in baseball right. Ever heard she said it's the equivalent of going 56 and 55. Get in trouble though to go ninety. And if you get Rangel 85 -- -- -- That's -- wanted to talk to you right now it's the equivalent going 56 and Retief aren't -- too worried about they can go 56 and 55 and finally too many people in the Boston media. Are either are coming up next wanna shift back to hockey out once again as your guy Michael has. Has not had a good stairs was like your guy you know who your guy yes. And finally it sounds like after talking to you today you've turned on your guy on on it seems like you've turned on your god no you'll have to explain how he didn't then -- and all the W.

Audio On Demand

CSNNE's Tom E. Curran Rep…

CSNNE's Tom E. Curran Reports From NFL Owners Meetings

Tom Curran calls the show to discuss the Vince Wilfork contract situation. After texting with Vince this morning, Curran says that Vince's camp is possibly trying to put the "genie back in the lamp" and that the possibility of the Pro Bowl DT returning to the team has improved.

Heath Evans, NFL Network: The Impact of Revis and Browner on the Patriots Defense

Heath Evans of the NFL Network joins Mut and Lou to talk how Revis and Browner impact the Patriots defense, the Vince Wilfork Situation, and the arms race between Denver and New England

Former Patriot Ty Law with Dale, Holley and Fauria

We talk Revis with his friend and mentor, former Patriot Ty Law.

Wyc Grousbeck, Celtics Ow…

Wyc Grousbeck, Celtics Owner: Reflects on the Boston Marathon tragedy 4-15-4

Celtics owner Wyc Grousbeck joins Mut and Merloni to discuss and reflect on the Boston Marathon Bombings a year later.

Jackie MacMullan, ESPN Boston, on the Celtics, 4-10-14

Jackie MacMullan talks some Celtics with Mut and Merloni as the season is winding down and the team is positioned to have a high draft pick.

Jackie MacMullan, ESPN Boston, discussing Rajon Rondo as a color commentator, the NBA draft, and the epic Pacers-Heat game

Jackie MacMullan of ESPN Boston joins Mut, Lou, and Christian to talk about Rajon Rondo in the booth, the rest of the Celtics losing season, and the epic battle between the Pacers and Heat.

Joe and Dave Postgame wit…

Joe and Dave Postgame with Grady Sizemore 04-11-14

Dave O'Brien and Joe Castiglione talk with Red Sox starting left fielder, Grady Sizemore. grady talks about what it was like to hit a home run off his old teammate, C.C. Sabathia, and his reaction to not seeing Koji on the mound in a save situation.

Dale and Holley: Steve Lyons 4-11-14

Steve Lyons joins Dale and Holley to talk about the Red Sox and Yankees series and Michael Pineda's sticky hand.

Kevin Millar, MLB Network: On Pineda's par tar 4-11-14

Kevin Millar makes his weekly appearance to discuss Michael Pineda's apparent pine tar on his hand, the Red Sox loss to the Yankees, and the team's pitching.

Shawn Thornton on the Red…

Shawn Thornton on the Red Wings 4-15-14

Shawn Thornton joined the show to preview the upcoming series against the Red Wings.

Pierre McGuire, NBC Sports, brings us around the NHL 4-11-14

2 games left in the season and the Bruins are in the driver's seat for the President's Cup which is allowing them to coast and get healthy. Pierre McGuire updates Mut and Lou on the possibility of Seidenberg's return and talks about situations elsewhere in the NHL.

Dale and Holley: Jack Edwards 4-10-14

Jack Edwards talks about the Bruins stretch run to the playoffs and rants about the NCAA.

Shawn Thornton on the Red…

Shawn Thornton on the Red Wings 4-15-14

Shawn Thornton joined the show to preview the Red Wings series and the one year anniversary of the Marathon Bombings.

Headlines Headlines Headlines: Aaron Hernandez in more trouble 4-15-14

The top stories of the day as recounted by Kirk Minihane. Today the guys discussed Aaron Hernandez getting in more jailhouse trouble.

Boston Strong one year later 4-15-14

Our montage to honor all those impacted by the terrorist attacks one year ago.

Wyc Grousbeck, Celtics Ow…

Wyc Grousbeck, Celtics Owner: Reflects on the Boston Marathon tragedy 4-15-4

Celtics owner Wyc Grousbeck joins Mut and Merloni to discuss and reflect on the Boston Marathon Bombings a year later.

Joe Andruzzi, Former Patriots OL: Reflecting on the Boston Marathon, 4-15-14

Joe Andruzzi witnessed the attacks first-hand and sprung into action to help others when the blasts went off on Boylston Street. The former Patriots OL joined the show to discuss and reflect on that day.

Remembering the Boston Marathon Bombing one year later 4-15-14

Mut, Merloni and Christian Fauria reflect on the tragic events on April 15th 2013 at the Boston Marathon and discuss how the city has changed.

Matt Chatham with Dale an…

Matt Chatham with Dale and Holley: Remembering the Boston Marathon Bombing 4-15-14

We speak with Matt Chatham, who re-tells his story from that fateful Monday and looks ahead to brighter things, including this year's marathon.

Reflecting on the One-Year Anniversary of the Boston Marathon Bombing 4-15-14

Dale, Michael and Steve Lyons reflect back on the event last year, and the good that has taken place since then as Boston came together.

David Abel of the Boston Globe : Remembering Martin Richard through the eyes of the Richard family 4-15-14

We speak with David Abel of the Boston Globe, who penned the incredible piece on the Richard Family in this past weekend's Boston Globe.

Rick Middleton joins Plan…

Rick Middleton joins Planet Mikey

Nifty jumps on the Planet for an hour.

Red Sox lose to the Orioles 2-1 on Opening Day

Lou Merloni did play-by-play with Joe Castiglione today and then joined The Planet Mikey Show to talk about what went wrong, and a few things that went right as the Red Sox started their campaign to defend their World Series title.

Chris Price joins John Ryder to talk the Patriots' newest acquisition

WEEI.com's Chris Price joins John Ryder and Chris Villani on Planet Mikey to discuss the signing of Revis Island

Minor Details Ep. 79: The…

Minor Details Ep. 79: The meaning of winning in the minors with Carlos Febles, Evan Lepler

The Red Sox' High-A minor league team in Salem recently had a 16-game winning streak that spanned two seasons. So what? From the standpoint of making prospects better and fostering player development, does that matter? Salem manager Carlos Febles (who managed Salem for the end of their winning streak, but who was also in charge of a 50-87 Single-A Greenville team in 2013) and Salem radio play-by-play man Evan Lepler discuss -- while also touching on a number of prospects in search of the next Earl Weaver and Vinegar Bend Mizell.

WEEI WrestleCast: Wrestlemania 30 recap

Scott and Ben recap WrestleMania 30 and talk about the death of the Ultimate Warrior.

Fantasy Football Offseason Podcast #3

It’s been a busy week across the NFL & with the College Football Draft Hopefuls so Jim Hackett & Pete Davidson plowed through as much as you can handle, including news about The Jets & their interest in Chris Johnson, the LSU Pro Day, rumors and news surrounding free agents & recent signings like Santonio Holmes, DeSean Jackson & Nate Burleson. Then it’s all about the 2014 Rookie Wide Receiver class that just continues to grow and impress. There’s a lot here to keep you informed as the offseason heats up and the draft approaches. Get ready!

Boston Strong one year la…

Boston Strong one year later 4-15-14

Our montage to honor all those impacted by the terrorist attacks one year ago.

More from this show

Brad Faxon gives his take…

Brad Faxon gives his take on Bubba Watson capturing his second Green Jacket 4-14-14

Friend of the show, Brad Faxon, checks in to examine all the Masters action and to evaluate Bubba Watson's performance.

More from this show

Bruins V. Red Wings in fi…

Bruins V. Red Wings in first round of NHL Playoffs 4-14-14

LB joins Mut and Merloni in studio to preview the Bruins first opponent in the playoffs, the Detroit Red Wings.

More from this show

Headlines Headlines Headl…

Headlines Headlines Headlines: Aaron Hernandez in more trouble 4-15-14

The top stories of the day as recounted by Kirk Minihane. Today the guys discussed Aaron Hernandez getting in more jailhouse trouble.

More from this show

Weei Writers