Buck and Jim Caple

14 on the list you know of a nonfiction best sellers here in Boston during this christmas season very competitive season you know get a Derek steep but the now I heard you are you broke the whole thing I heard you wrote the whole thing about just you know through in a couple lines here in there about how it -- columns. Call him the bigger better -- options or. You're out Seattle near Seattle guide. So -- grow up in Boston but you're you're very very very quite obviously familiar with all the alleges that that we have here in -- market

for some reason I grew up I suffered are here for for years and years and also huge step we've reviewed what Boston College career both from afar Steve typical.

Jim what sports talk radio like in Seattle they still talk about the Randy Johnson A-Rod Ken Griffey era.

Hello like were back here with with you know cowboys and Indians good difficult now where we're over outdoor outraged about. From last forever but.

get over it. The summit we sit around talking about like Bucky dent or anything.

I don't know whenever that's the thing about that -- are -- but. In the -- sentinel that they let things up.

Tim you -- how much and suffered in the city over the years.

Well as well you know -- buck and I were certain out of sportswriters in the bean pot.

It's Mike I don't know if you get the joke theory it it at the book -- pick re dead read this rate here. Every Boston fan knows that the only thing better than watching six graph down veteran Boston sports writers and Steve Buckley Jim -- take -- the hundred best debates in Boston sports okay so what's so funny about that buck.

Well -- the joke is that -- not from -- and and obviously the the marketing guy who came up with that little blurb in the back of the -- just assumed -- that two guys reading a book on Boston sports arguments like with the Everett high and you know the whole bit. And Jim is from the state of Washington I'm from Boston and and is not put effect veterans blessed with but. He plays one on the radio.

Now do you have is is bouncing -- in the news out there today. Now I've heard some all the votes it -- him room closed up -- and I heard about it.

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I saw the news that mount saint -- off again. I'd hope I'd not -- largely -- to Spokane Juan.

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The dust well you know this town here of course I have this fire our show every night gym where we -- a lot of these a lot of these arguments come come up on a regular basis that are that are in this book and one of the ones that I've been most fond of talking about over the course the past few months is the is the question of many Rivera's and that's in the -- should Manny be traded now we just went through a moment when everybody seemed to be on the same page the Red Sox were seem willing to to try to move -- many seem willing more than ever to go to a variety of teams I I personally you know I'd like Steve traded or 40 used Aramis.

I've been on -- in the book I understand that he's one of the most productive hitters in baseball the last decade to decade. And they going to court but out of your enemy he's got a Artest and let -- basically can ignore him most with the pick of the Tibet gonna hit a home run for a Pico Rivera the left field.

He should hit 30 or 40 times yours -- run Korea and he's not going to be in a meaningful part of the game. And and that's the other eight innings a game what he's not hit -- you're gonna have to see him not lagging get out not diving for the ball in the outfield and giving up -- example all the young players come up through the Red Sox

haven't complained during the two four World Series. I I held in check. What I don't understand is is what he's been doing for you know his entire career you know and now like it's some new competitor adult he. He beat Costa in the game on the on the -- I think

let me jump in and neither do you see this spirited debate that's going on -- between -- engine -- what this is why you want to go get the sport -- sports. I haven't argument argument number 60 more the worst manager. In Red Sox history I all the Steve Buckley. Is it Don Zimmer. He basically he his was the biggest choke oval is it not with a team -- had a huge lead he had 1978 and open up the book -- who we picked. I mean what -- I was just take him out that would that I started on those does not the -- in this by did did he not have the biggest -- the gene -- in the choke of all time for the Red Sox for the usually you know it was.

He didn't do anything really last like McDonald's and plan to be good at having obviously Iran's players. But he -- do you do that done it's something incredibly.

What what you've done as events at your own -- though because he he did -- it plays into the ground he was physically he was he was -- we use go with Fisk he was don't want -- was going with the same nine guys -- and day out right including starting pitching that he. I think you would agree if your big bill Lee -- And and he did he sat Lee and -- to -- around the best man in my -- wedding was that this basement they go so but Jim.

He also took his buddy beetle Bailey and and trade -- the best pitcher on the Red Sox beat Bernie cart open that year and the Red Sox pinch hitters after the trade -- carpal didn't drive in a run for the -- met the remainder of the --

Okay I I think we need to get back on course it because we did not point effect exempt trying to. As the -- and -- nine though the -- six weeks of baseball I have every seen joking with Joe Kerrigan tenure I I called the Joe Kerrigan in our. During the period he was manager threats like there was it was open rebellion of the team plays throwing their shirts often and in cussing him out on airplanes it was a disaster because. Everybody -- who on the team. That he was -- cats guy like the there was a rift between to indicate in Jimy Williams. To the point where they weren't talking anymore Duquette had no sway in the club Austin outline it was presented and so forth so what it was he finally got permission Harrington to fired Jimy Williams inserted his guy. And now Duquette was effectively the manager of the team players are smart people they recognize this -- open rebellion on the team that's -- thinks they'll. I don't know it was a short period time you still thought that was worse than the butch hobson -- butch hobson was a bad manager but those of bad teams they didn't have much during the that was that was a post. They had they give it everything they had 91 when Roberto Kelly at that -- the Yankees late in the season and they they were right in the cost of getting back into the race and winning the AL east and they fell out of it if fired Joe Morgan. When Joe Morgan gave it tremendous interview at that without Mike down -- channel five. And or maybe it was Michael went by -- channel five where. He's sitting -- fishing with his grandson and -- that right and he says they're going to find out this team isn't as good as they think it is and he was oppression that team was not as good as people thought it was as was -- out over the next three seasons.

At let's give Jim -- on the west coast teams to actually baseball argument with a -- with a sports radio caller one do that Jim. We put he's gotta wait I bet you have to report these calls on the -- at the same time you guys -- how to do that and there we have a TV at a skeleton crew gym tonight they're actually skillet my money's on someone get drop the go ahead -- let's try. Sean in Worcester. And gym on an in Seattle ready. Ready go you're on the -- guys go ahead argue yes. Yes -- you're on the -- I don't think -- here's okay this this is going to not work chances are you kidding me not by the way -- top rated radio station in the country for sports -- And not for a long and it lets put him on hold show on on hold out gyms Donald Shaun you there. This isn't work -- welcomed the tightness you have nevermind nevermind that great idea technically I don't know how much of a poster but the potomac the lower bank doesn't usually deterrent that -- At the I have to do -- punching up in here -- argument is my first and radio.

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And then they get better what was showing him with his argument by the Johnnie there. Notes crucial on it and forget about that when contreras again I don't know how I'd seen it done on his radio station. Let's try franking Gloucester frank you -- Jim.

I wanted to talk to go to bought off.

I talked according to Jim back on the phone he says this is not applicable. Technical -- up speed yet job I've right. We lose now francs or even on the year and you know I don't think that he's a few of me by talk -- our subject job Joyce could join it is going aren't you guys rockets talked.

Attract a helpless people go to -- I'm doing great still myself popular -- and 1999 Sports Illustrated Kamal what number 50 greatest sport -- every other state actually just in every other state I remember as your goal was source of Massachusetts who

receiving yes it was a rocky Marciano.

Yeah much yeah -- to -- Brody you'll waiting -- at all await Dario are actually anatomy gathers. But much out of their current prospects while out attacking people talk about that question was -- they usually rocky Marciano all and I don't see why.

Well I at what I I -- reference that it went in the -- the -- raised athlete I -- said that rocky was from Brockton which is 40 you know somewhat with the 40 miles south of Boston and rises that he's not a Boston guy and I I was referenced in the guys for the Boston teams I did. -- that I said that had -- been in Boston.

I didn't include yep and it's not a Massachusetts thing you know. As much as it is the Boston thing frank okay -- we gotta get back to Jim.

I would imagine I just thought about it. Doug what do I don't I don't I don't want to put the goal is a bank -- I counted Jamie's number one option at a ball.

Is frank currency related now just so Jim wants him -- to know he just heard Franklin Gloucester not the typical caller to this radio station by any any means to him. Well I don't. He just up right on going the united heated effort to undermine your tag up out of it inadvertently here that was it -- you know they can put a man the more. Now cell phones can talk to self selected the guy Worcester really want to argue Capel also I don't know what that he wanted to world done with him doubt let me ask the question for you Jim what are the books you have on the market this christmas season -- title we're. All that's -- I hop good for -- you know what I'm a ball on board with that and as -- tell you is nobody who hates the Yankees more than me. There's no trust me but I got the the tattoo on my ass from losing a bet to you know Ahmadabad when it comes the Yankees and that is a sports argument for -- which feels better. Yankee win a Yankee loss or Red Sox win restless when he thinks -- pitcher that I think they're very close. I think you know we're talking about sensation from Boston fans it's very very close because on any given day -- Red Sox are off the Yankees have lost they lose -- the game that you'll see this is.

We disagree because I believe that. It's more fun around here we're both the Red Sox Yankees competitive playing some all right how about this argument if that the Yankees already have the Yankees suck and finish last or be in the pennant chase rate down through final game play I would rather have the Yankees in a pennant -- right down the final weekend

I go the other way Jim how do you feel about them. I really don't Steve on this one like it would every. You want them to be as good as the Red Sox haven't -- tied it nip and --

I think it's always more interesting when the person that you hate is is there now I've. On the the cubbies -- I I want to be intimate if you're an -- an -- of people lot in the television screen right grade level going to be because they throughout and -- Perez in the big lap but the software didn't you know -- been -- in 91 just they were that it.

It's offering though it is it. To let the record is that I -- have just lose all the time I why do you go zero point 16 -- its -- with sister and I know that and that's great but he you know the with a little with --

But here you being the pardon Yankee hater that you war. Wasn't the exhilaration heightened by the fact only the Yankees the lying he proved -- you can ever top that so now I'd like to see is 0162 record for the Yankees I think it'll happen one day this to.

Definitely have a feasible and plausible situation well Jim congratulations on your your -- co effort with our friend Steve Buckley here we're we're glad to know that there's people like you win in Seattle you know Boston sports fans and continued success on the Internet -- hit today you got her to get like 45 million hits a day.

I don't know yet let them read particular. There's that we get oh record amount for 30 years.

That's amazing we're right up there.

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Absolutely -- depends on the right -- right up there we were not of the American productivity down. Well.

I always say that I -- for tabloid newspaper guys who were reading some women are reading us there on their break the sitting in a copy shop having a -- that. Just read as a -- slackers -- in the Cuba where there's there's supposed to be telemarketing -- and in this at nearly did the reading Jim Capel when he is in dot -- sort of working that's what's wrong with this country.

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Well you know they'll try to get that A-Rod question an -- are about a Manny I -- that just yet. Although problems you trade -- victory radio. And later in many becomes -- back but he's been traded.

Keep that's that's I think that's a good one and it would take him till June to catch on he would buy he'd be like what happened my. Budget happy holiday season -- you congratulations on the book without you have and Steve Buckley is same view my friend the pleasure being what -- you got.

We're not for christmas anything different no everyone comes my house and christmas eve is a gazillion people in there and get that already and then christmas day over it's in my sister's house and then we go from there.

I'm going to do what I did last year were more notable exception -- up my christmas present got the book that's the exception I didn't have this book last year that but I'm a do what I normally do which is make sure all the -- are working all the rooms. I have a great holiday Steve Mike think articulated take a break welcome back -- flash -- Joyce an hour three of the planet he's