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Pod Man Rush: Kevin Paul Dupont talks Eastern Conference and audio porn

Mar 18, 2013|

Hockey Hall of Fame hockey writer Kevin Paul Dupont of the Boston Globe joins DJ Bean to discuss the Eastern Conference, the mess that is the New York Rangers and whether or not the Bruins need their third line to be good in order for the B's to be successful. Also touched on is are the issues Kevin has with today's NHL, including the music at TD Garden.

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This time. A million rush him. Covering everything Boston Bruins in the NHL oh million ride on WEP guys. Welcome to the latest edition of odd man rush WEP guys -- very good hockey podcast -- -- this week is a hockey hall. -- as the recipient of the 2002 Elmer Ferguson and Foster Hewitt award you read him in the Boston Globe seem on Comcast sports net. And hear him arguing with Lyndon byers on -- -- It's a great -- Paul DuPont thanks for coming on Duke's. My pleasure -- I forgot about that trouncing I -- Now that was fantastic that was I eat I texted. I don't Texan drive -- to wait till I got added Wilmington X as our leader -- -- That day the Bruins are practicing in that was I texted -- afterwards and said that was the best hockey radio I ever heard. So that's great that it was good fun -- good fun. It's it's always -- to a new value guys are so on the same page two so -- dynamic between you and Linden is just so smooth. Yes yes. Crying liberal here. If that's the our attitude so where do you see the Bruins. Among the big east's top teams right now because they're on pace to finish with the most points -- -- they've had teams and hand. All of these teams they've made them up. For the most part but they've narrow loss to Pittsburg in both of their meetings and the Canadians. To the surprise of some I guess. Are going anywhere sorties the Bruins fitting in guys you rank the elite teams right now. Well we saw the loose Sunday against Pittsburgh and both of losses they have an asterisk and that the Malkin wasn't lineup for Pittsburg so you have to think. There -- better team let's face that they are better team when Malkin -- there are so. That probably does not portend well for the Bruins. That said they can beat them. I don't say if if this were the NBA where you see the best team. Going into the playoffs say well they should quit Miami should win. The question is are they actually gonna lose between now and the end of the plastic as the Miami but. All of this is. To say that in hockey you just never know because the it to bite my ally and I think the -- of many. The emphasis of the importance of goaltending is so ridiculous now. It's always been an important position now it's almost. Paramount the game itself. And and I personally I think the league -- a problem with that that won't address that and to addressing you first have to acknowledge is a problem and they won't. But -- said. I don't a look at Montreal I look at the Bruins a look at Pittsburgh I -- -- -- the better team I don't know what that really means anything. I would say they should commodity east but. Woolsey with their goaltending is that I'm not all that sold on Fleury. I like craft a lot he's convinced he's number one he has to -- yet these and all the number one. Carey Price that awfully good goaltender Montreal I like what they've done their play with energy. I'm a little bit surprised by their performance is suppose a lot of people are but I dispose of it doing there is. Equating this year or weighing this year against last year but the which is god awful. So they are the three and that's not to say -- -- only -- -- -- with Carolina they went out we got our government and and they played well. Camera Cam Ward won a cup so they could do it. I I don't I don't like them as much as the others but they're written there the Rangers I think we should like but they're just imploding. I think you're really looks to me a team -- stepped on its feet because the coach. And and are they ready to make movies do that ranger team and -- said put Boudreau behind the bench. I -- they're playing a lot differently and I but they're playing a lot more successfully. I've never liked Boutros teams in the states which is Washington. I never like the caps under Boudreau. In the playoffs. There go I probably wouldn't like the rangers' chances in the playoffs and the Boudreau most of he loves the hockey I like. He doesn't seem to be able to -- Korea hasn't -- an in depth report. You touched on the Rangers is this just a case of toward a -- completely being tuned notre. Is this a team that you talked about their chances in the playoffs I think as of Monday morning. This is a team that's on the outside looking in I think somewhere around ten thumb. I mean I personally I still feel that if this is a team that can get in as say an eight seed. If you're the Bruins and you get the one seed in you have to face that Rangers team I mean regardless of who's behind the bench. It's Hendrick Lundqvist it's a boat -- of offense it's up defense that blocks a ton of shots that's team that could legitimately bounce whoever faces in the first round. Shortcut. And and it had been discovered your first question have they tune in now. -- you know I've covered team's stated date and that is very hard read together so if you're not in the room. You know I'm not I can't make illegitimate redone that has to say I can be in the room to the day and still can't get a field because. Sometimes you just never know but. Well what I said it going into this year amid a -- display a few times when you're playing -- that guy you know exactly which you you knew exactly how he's gonna handle it. You're gonna know the style of play. That's the cup style play. Which is to pack it in around the net and everybody blocked shots. I would argue if statute this style of play why bother spending all this money on high end talent. Because -- chance of winning with high end talent when that game it's probably just as good. If you do feel the Columbus blue jacket. -- -- you it's basically up meat grinder approach where you say we know we're gonna lose guys playing it this way. But this is the way we're gonna play. Now the added dimension to that is when your skill player it and if you're skilled player that you probably -- five million dollars a year -- more. You've been in the legal while we know we're talking about here Jabber can Richards. Especially. You know what this is a very monotonous sport to the degree it's. It's. It's almost -- compulsive sport and in terms of get to the rink every day. So when you've got them and not monotony in there and the compulsive missile at all and then you've got a coach whose breathing this as I say meat grinder. That's a horrible place to be working in my opinion. There's not much light not probable. So. It's not it's not surprising to me that out through it wherever he's been out three years there. That this is how the team is responding. Not to say necessarily that tune them out but I think sometimes you can just go brain -- under coach. And that's the way they seem to me they they've looked they looked like the team of the Walking Dead now. Last three of their last three games with two goals scored and that kind of firepower. Again I can deliver -- those two goals with the Columbus Blue Jackets. -- obviously gonna be out for awhile the broken tibia but that third line was bad before. Kelly got her when you talk about the Bruins you compare the -- the other teams in the east still -- the penguins especially. You say that Pittsburgh's got that -- top two lines in the Bruins have depth. But if the Bruins don't have a dependable third line as they haven't really all season then. How deep the team are the really end. Is that an area that that you see is sort of the primary. The the primary task for for Peter surely. Well I don't and I and I don't leave that to be just shortly though it -- the standard old crony contrary in here out tail lights. I think they've got enough talent on the top two lines enough that theory now enough scoring talent in the top two lines. To win -- cup was just those guys. We we get into this discussion debate or however you want that argument. Over the third line you know there are a lot of teams in the league who have that discussion you will lose on your first two lives in my book. I know what role before -- I know the -- important. But. There aren't many teams that have more than two scoring lines in fact I can tell you that. Not -- it's too. It's it's it's a two line it's a two line offense. And just you find the best goalie you can't and that's how you win. I really don't care about the third line and all I care is that they're they're not a liability now if that's your argument and -- think they can do better job defensively. The boy up and down they do it did all of them do a good job defensively they have the best PK unit in the game it's really. I I would say -- the discussion of the third line. Do what you're going to do with your -- William bottom six boards across lines three and four. And try to make you break and I mean number one line be it you know which he's got an asterisk over himself now because of the injury on Sunday. -- -- The -- you line the Bergeron laden and that's the wasteland at the whether it's. Chris Bork is plugged in over their -- doubtful -- on Spooner wrote whom ever. I'm not that intrigued by that I did I do know and I light. Sure always approach. At the trade deadline is what. Looking at talent up and down the line up try to guys try to get guys reversible he did a great job with that. Bringing in Cali improperly. A couple of years ago they took place senator they can play wing I think that's a very prudent way to go to -- keep doing that and also to point. Ralston last year Ralston came in was very effective so. I think he did a good job there and I'm not all that married or excited about. How to resolve their -- action. Well I I see your point there when -- especially when you talked about on the defensive and down those guys Kelly. I'm I'm not sure what he is narrow so. Or what he was at the time that he went down but he was somewhere around like a minus six minus seven minus eight. Yeah Beverly was in the same area and that was really deceiving you know I've been really it's the third line all year. But that's kind of deceiving number because that's suggest that there are allowing a ton of goals which they weren't they just they were scoring literally zero -- The -- line had one goal over -- -- Bork had one goal. In the sixteen games it was together so they would they were just allowing their their fair share of goals and -- weren't scoring any so that plus minus was. Really deceiving. But then on the offensive end that's word that's hard disagree with you because while it's true that. Most of these teams and you include the Bruins because of how good the Bergeron line's been the -- drum line. Has been as good as any team's top line correct so. Yeah they're getting the production from their top two lines like pretty much every team in the league relies on the when you look at when they won the cup in 2011. That was different that was a huge difference maker for them they're they're -- their their bottom six in general she wanna point out to the the fourth lines shift in in game seven of the country and game brown but that third line of of Kelly between parent really in a Ryder. That was the difference maker because they played like a top line as well. There are the ones who really kept them in that Montreal series when you look at the big guy thinking for that writer had with the with the game winner in overtime and he had two goal game there. I think -- if they are able to upgrade that third line you get the production out of them that a lot of teams get out of say their second line. Then the Bruins will be in that position they were in two years ago I understand that not every team has that that's not something to expect but. I think it's a formula they've won with and if they can upgrade that third line especially with -- all the cap space they have what did you. All the way it is if you could add talent and make make it a better score line absolutely I don't I don't dispute that at all. But I don't see it as the panacea or season savior. That they have to go out -- how it I I would argue that what -- in 2011 they go down they go down the first two games of the of these final. And then it went it and it's dramatic it's great it's it's all that. But that third line really is -- luxury. I don't see that I don't see that again across the league. The teams are counting on third line scoring and battle think they should have to count on it here I think they've got. Better than better than most clubs. First two lines and I think that can carry it but absolutely if you if if you can go out there. And do it. Do it I I think I think in part again. We're picking at this because it is it because they tried to force fit -- on that line I don't think it was a good fit from the start it didn't work out. They stayed with a prologue time. And I think that the tributes. Or contributes to The Who the minus status of the two guys talking about -- Beverly. I would out very early and -- let's say this would have worked. I would have -- -- -- that line. And put IA up Butler way is playing by -- got the speed to go with heavily. And I'd like to see how that works -- if if it applies to get the speed to play out of first why he never had the hands. He's Smart enough advocates say the smartest player out there watch but he Smart enough he's got speed. I would do more the again this -- This speaks a little bit too -- micromanaging. He's he's got that fourth line nailed that he would it doesn't work well. As a normal school here but my fourth line guys were true it would be true for like god this is this is almost discussion of -- and a four man rotation in baseball ice. If I still like the old method which is that which is to play the daylights out of your top two lives. Usually third line as as as a checking line and then. Fourth lines spears spot men maybe you've got a power play specialist maybe got a PK specialist. But that's not his approach and and it's hard to criticize them because the guys like the system first and foremost they respected. And also we -- -- what it. Wouldn't but it wouldn't be my metric. Right I mean -- you agree with you there I mean if if it's tougher to do now because. -- of the whole Kelly's situation and it's a lot more of a mix and match situation but when Kelly's healthy I think that if you can go. -- between party -- in Beverly. And then throw -- awful on that on the fourth find you get some defense of responsibility there and you know putting a guy. Like say Jordan Kirk karate and could work on the fourth line because I mean he plays at the bit of -- -- agreement that would fit in with guys like Zorn and Campbell but. I mean what I'm saying I guess is you have options if you take par eight off that of that fourth line not that your priority should be like. Keeping together your fourth line because if you take this guy off than mobile the fourth line -- -- the priority should obviously be getting that third line going but. Julien does have options if he is to mix and match there narrow if this team does not make any trades the trip but deadlines coming up. On not April 30 surely doesn't make any trades which are Adobe to Casey usually gets at least something but. If you look at this team as is and if they just keep their fingers crossed way to get completely healthy in hopes that nobody else gets hurt. Are these deep enough far -- strong enough to legitimately contend third for the cup. In today's game absolutely yes because they've got they've got the most unique defenseman in the game end in -- You can get into a long debate whether he's the best defenseman. And political horse discussion. But it is the most unique defenseman. And I would say here at another end of that spectrum for uniqueness. Is Carlson. Of course he's injured now right. But for four for what you're asking of of these players in terms of what they can deliver. Now -- we know he -- -- some guys get crossed up by little guys we saw that series with Carolina. But by and large -- can roll them out of those 28 or 3828. To thirty minutes of the game maybe even more captive. For what he is and how we can dominate the back and and you add the legitimate. Number one goaltender Rask you read it. You credit that you you can also get bounced in round one because of the rule book and because of the equipment all of that and just the if you will loose there and get to this the serendipity or capricious system hockey. But there and it is no question there and it. And that it comes down to. More than anything the wacky bounces which is probably one a couple of. Absolutely yes. But have been eliminated and in round one -- Montreal also comes out the -- bounces. And in my mind. Are you talked to like score if if they can how will the others and this you know this is the team. We know those two lines are strong enough to five on five to score enough. We know they have to be that because they can't score on the power play. So. Again I don't see if I go to the -- -- don't see that anyone could run away with it as much as I like Chicago. But I think Chicago Chicago sort of the Miami Heat equation here now. They are the best team today they -- the part they're very quick on transition it's great to watch. They could lose in the first round for nothing I wouldn't be the least bit surprised. Right in the into specially just going back to it to goaltending with very mean and took until you see them. -- for prolonged stretch and a bullet like you said they could easily get bounced early on does that mean if if Crawford. -- the bad how's the president of the. No not at all or every or every gets into one of his bets and then indoors you know or wherever he goes sometimes is that you don't know. But you do have to it you know they they play the regular season for a reason you have to -- these teams for what they are -- win percentage. Has been better than anybody from the get go to work around 900 of one point. Terms of -- percentage so did you know that there the cock of the walk the moment. And there's so there's a lot alike and believe about them. As as is true of Pittsburgh as true as -- -- probably going to be at a time. And -- -- so that there'd there'd there's some good contenders here I do I do wish I don't want to harp on this I think I do wish. That. The sport who is dialed and I think they could do this easily with -- equipment with a couple of rule changes that the best teams went. And that and that that's really what pitched it that's what every sport should be should it. Is that the as the manager you you constructed team to an end and you know we after it. We have to exit the injury issue here but -- the injury issue out. It really should be a sport obviously you have opened the team's one see this team has played 8080 hockey for the regular season. -- the prohibitive favorites playoffs and it should it should run fairly close to chalk the use of vaguest terms. But all it wall to wall and and that's. That to me is the canary in the coal mine for the sport that if they really should look at that and say. You know something because otherwise what the -- Just go get a goalie it was a great -- at an end and what proved this again is look at buffalo when hasek was there. Hello and up in the Stanley Cup final with a pretty much -- you know -- implicated team. Why are they there harsher harsher harsher. So I I just think it's it's it's far too weighted. For the goaltender and then you get a ridiculous coached like to a gorilla who'd get the goaltender is seen -- that I wouldn't bother playing it on offense. I'll take that goaltender and a -- everybody here likes somebody's -- beans in the can and we'll see if we can squeal about a -- now and that's not hockey. I think that's that's count pennies and I hate that. That you mentioned just. You mentioned some of the issues that you have with the today's NHL and there are a lot more of them obviously your stance on fighting gets a lot of attention but I want to talk about. The thing at the forefront. Which which drives you the craziest and something you've railed against I haven't seen it in your columns yet but I expected. It's at some point -- that's your stance on the Endesa bowl level and sick. That's the guard and or as you call it you very good with words as you call audio porn. I usually Thai music and this podcast. Some way every -- a figure this be good way to to do it here. We're there every night and were kind of immune to it by now when I say it I mean they just last if you if whoever you. Be immune to it PGA dot not a given to a. It's like gets folks like Pete Townsend said a few years ago and up a few years ago like public ten years ago now when I -- came out. He was like -- this like big like warning about you're gonna go deaf like keep the music down like with with a personal music players and everything. It's one of those things like -- like I'm used to the loud volumes on that so I'm also used to. Just the deafening levels. At the garden but do you get the sense and even if you are you personally are not immune to it do you get the sense that it takes away. From the fan experience of someone who says it goes to a game say like. Twice a year or some thing. Well yeah I do think it cuts across age groups here but these -- you're asking -- -- -- -- again I think all the audio port of course I think it's detrimental. I I get. Whenever right to write about and I've written I've written page two column about it in this in this -- second thought cult let me do. And it brings a lot of email that you could tell it's an older group. Because they start talking about having been in the garden in the you know as far back in the forties and the fifties in the sixties. It has it is chased a lot of people out of the building. That's said the building it's all so it's not chasing enough that it there is any detrimental. Effect to the bottom line. But I'll tell you some of the things I heard -- which is. And a number of season ticket holders who wrote and told me that they gave up season tickets because of that. And these were people who were professionals they would do all of them as a business. And what came up and number time in the -- about a pesticide. Not not -- I'm -- I'm sure it was not news but it passed under the business side of the guidance. These are people who owned anywhere from two to 46 tickets for business and they would give them out there many times they would bring people of the games themselves. Business people that wanted to do business where they probably couldn't have a discussion with these people. Much like you play golf you you go out there and do business on the course there were people who want to do business in the arena. Sit talked. You know you salesman whatever you're that you can't have you cannot have a discussion so -- possible. Usually you don't wanna be talking during the game you wanna be watching the game if you got any interest in hockey right yeah wanna watch the games without -- downtime between period. Well there's no talking. The the only chances that you seek refuge under the stands over the concession -- that's really not. That's really no way to do business either. So those people are out and what they've got is a much younger crowd and they all need to be I guess. Joost upper electrified our realized that the pick that I. -- -- I I come from the almost the theater experience of their show which is you've got their lights were turned down and it was organ music was John -- alone playing organ music. You know what I I think if they actually did it. I think some people would like it I would argue -- -- with a guide and I would actually try to find a sponsor. Who at least for war an intermission would by the intermission. Turn the lights down just played very light music and have the sponsor on the message boards saying you know that these fifteen minutes you're able to think -- brought few. Prize is that the you know Olympic sponsor. That's actually that's a pretty good idea. I think I think people would be grateful. I I think they'd find it astounding. And not enough and not to go to. Crazy here not half net but the sound like a religious tub thumper but I. But to try to go to church every Sunday the one hour in my life now where it's quiet. -- so I told my friend to a lapsed Catholics and some of them have been in the building and I get -- a lot of angry people. I get it you know what -- -- he turned up your angry about it. I tell them what to come just one -- and sit there without the phone ringing and texting pinging. And people like yelling and people not screaming trying to for the hour because you can look at it is if you don't wanna buy into the dogma. At least buy into the solitude and then sort of the meditative process. Well like I mean 'cause I totally agree with you on. The levels the music thing it and it's not just. It's not no he's in general that that I have an issue with -- that I notice it's just that it is. Music it's it's all you can hear is the music like I'm positive their fans screaming. In going nuts but I can't actually hear the McCain in Montreal. The -- Do pretty much exactly the opposite of what they do in Boston which. In Montreal a lot more visual they do the whole thing where there's like that the fire display on the ice and they let the fans provide the noise and it obviously isn't anywhere near as loud as the deafening levels of the garden. But it's stands that's -- here you can hear however many thousand people screaming at the top of their lungs and I would imagine they mean that that gives me goose bumps as as someone who's a spectator and I'd imagine it doesn't seem for whoever's there are so. I would think that would also. It's not that gut up the selling point with the whole music thing is to create intimidating setting for an opposing player but. If there's anything that can intimidate Chu as the opposition it's something like that you have that many people make that much noise so so -- they just -- that Boston. He's just a very good question I. I have no idea it's in no way you advised to Clarence Williams right -- when you when you were describing that -- -- I began to think so. I don't dispute what you say it that's you're actually right. But the image I get as you define it that way it's it's all of a sudden the -- has become the background music for the elevators. To the position is the overwhelming music. Right totally out and having that global fortunately for you it's it's songs that you like at least. You're you're a big fan of of click and it Kanye AG's the end and all that well make -- No right at Drake streaks is as good as there and I'm I'm sure the UN Tyler Sagan have had many conversation. About the lyrical genius that is straight its fight wouldn't whenever they're playing like those super loud like screaming songs not even -- so either -- Somebody. Will always come over to me whether whether it's it's you -- or Steve Conroy years Steve -- or somebody they'll come over and they'll be like. What's the name of the song like like they do want to like tell on the song there's something. But the I don't even know what any of the music is anymore and I'm supposed to be like this that but it does attract young person yeah exactly. Like if I know I can tell you that other people my age probably also have no idea with the music and so I'm still not sure who they're trying to play to put. I can't imagine it's working but as you said you know that the proof's in the in the ticket sales so. Right in the -- and my and it must be working. Right if it's not scaring people -- to the point that. That there are not -- in the plays so that I mean why not stick with -- Yes stick with certain days that they've got -- bad out there visit -- -- theory and that's which is if you if you look at. You look at these Arenas -- restaurants and they -- restaurants only wish that they could be. Beating 161000 customers -- night. So you look at sixteen or 181000 in the in the seats what's the best thing to do to get them there into the concession stands as safe harbor. Blast in the news. Sexy not a bad idea and. Last of his guy I know level and even -- -- the burger chain but I know what a very successful burger chain here and I know somebody who works it. And ask about the news it was too loud the place he said we purposely do that so people won't stay they want to come and by the burger. He did turn the table for get out get out get out. That's actually that's a brilliant idea in an answer a lot of questions I have. Joshua Tree in in Davis Square. It's like it's like a sports bar. But they play that music in -- so loud that you can't watch games you can't like you can't think you can't do anything so and referenced alleys or whatever where there were like. What what that what is this so that answers a lot of questions so. So thinks that'll that tidbit there. Answering questions hockey wise and otherwise -- haven't called you can't argue shall thanks so much for joining us this is degrade. All right BJ thank you haven't made that block with a.

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